Apple cider vinegar natural of natural fermentation according to Jarvis

On the first page of the recipe is vinegar from apples, ground randomly, but not to a puree state in the food processor. She grated, cut into slices, always in the end, like a tear.

And I only get transparent leaves ...
Here are the bottles nearby, you can immediately see how transparent vinegar from grape leaves is than the other two.

[alba et atra]

where so much! Friends and family?

Yeah ... I distribute, of course. I left some of them from last year for aging. Cherry came out "by accident". The harvest is very large this year, But the cherry began to sing just before the rains. "Plump". This is not good for anything. I had to make vinegar.

I wanted to buy a keg for a three-year aging. I found out the price and somehow got over it right away. Now wondering how to simulate a keg? It seems like you can put chunks in a jar, or chips

alba et atra, Lenochka, and I have a very light, unpainted grape leaf!

[Radushka]

Radushka, oh, since you will continue to do, and in fact we will, then it is better to save up for a barrel !!! Or maybe you can buy a used one?

[alba et atra]

Cherry came out "by accident".

Eh, I'm making a cherry pitted with the remnants of cherry meat ...
Cherry carcasses for jam, and bones for vinegar.

It seems that you can put chunks in a jar, or chips.

You can, Anh.
And you can bark.

alba et atra, Lenochka, and I have a very light, unpainted grape leaf!

Anh, in the photo there is a three-year-old vinegar, though he insisted in the jar. Initially, it was a little lighter.

What grape leaves do you have, dark or white? Suddenly the color of the vinegar depends on the color of the berries ...

[alba et atra]

alba et atra, dark. I have Isabella Alpha. Excellent technical grade! He sings a couple of weeks before Isabella. And noticeably sweeter. And so ... very similar

[alba et atra]

alba et atra, dark. I have Isabella Alpha. Excellent technical grade! He sings a couple of weeks before Isabella. And noticeably sweeter. And so ... very similar

And I have from Alpha!
I love her dearly!

So it's not about the color of the berries ...

Tex ... Let's write it down! Alpha!

Ekaterina, and for an infusion with herbs, it is better to determine vinegar in the sun. And yes, it's never too late to add aromatic herbs.

THANKS FOR THE ANSWER
A MONTH HAS PASSED, THE SMELL IS REDUCED, BUT IS STILL. HUSBAND SAID THAT IT'S SILVER OILS STICK. WAITING FOR MORE ...

Well, my "mash" is fermenting again, it still smells just as tart-wine, and I added a little separately fermented grapes. I'll see what happens next, keep it in the dark and warm for now. Right?
I also have a question about raspberry vinegar. In the summer I bought raspberries, kneaded them, added a little sugar and water, this business also fermented, settled, I strained it, defended it. Now there is a sediment again, but the question is not about it, the liquid turned out to be not very acidic, is this the way it should be and over time it will become sour or have I diluted the raspberry mass with water too much? Maybe I should cut apples there and let them wander again? There will be not pure raspberry vinegar, but raspberry-apple cider vinegar, but it doesn't matter to me.

[Crown]

Crown, yes, it is necessary to dilute in moderation, you can add, there will be more versatile vinegar.

[Rada-dms]

Rada-dms, Thank you. Add and put it back in the heat? Do you need sugar?

[Crown]

Crown, Galya, I think we need to add a little. And a couple of spoons of the one that started to ferment.

Olya, tell me, what kind of bread do you put in vinegar today? Some kind of your own or purchased? Rye, gray? There are a lot of apples, I want to make vinegar for the first time this year.

[Exocat]

Exocat, I used my own, which is sourdough, before. You can buy some sourdough bread in the store. Usually they write it is yeast-free, but it is leavened.
You don't have to put the bread, this is for insurance, to start the correct fermentation. You can throw about five raisins.

Failed "thank you"! Excuse me! You can contact me on you, tea is not the first year we hang out here!

[Rada-dms]

Oh. I can't help but share. Turned out

Made from unripe (fallen) pears according to the recipe Rada-dms,


This is a vinegar uterus made from pear vinegar.

Made from grape leaves according to recipe alba et atra, also gorgeous !!!!!
The vinegar uterus was eaten. From pears it seemed to us tastier.

Many thanks to everyone: rose: for sharing your experience and knowledge

The vinegar uterus was eaten. From pears it seemed to us tastier.

What did you eat with? I put all the uterus on my legs.

What did you eat with?

With nothing. Just ate it like a pancake

I put all the uterus on my legs

What legs?

[kalinka777]

kalinka777, Svetlana, on their own. Wraps. Uterus on heels-sole + polyethylene bag + cotton sock + woolen sock for 20-30 minutes. Remove-wash-grease with fat cream

on their own. Wraps. Uterus on heels-sole + polyethylene bag + cotton sock + woolen sock for 20-30 minutes. Remove-wash-grease with fat cream

Wow. And what are your impressions? In the sense for heels from cracks?

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, well, I didn't have any cracks, but the rigidity, so to speak, decreased very much

but, the rigidity, so to speak, has decreased very much

Uh-huh. : girl-yes: I confirm your words.
My mother softened the corns on my leg with purchased vinegar and cleaned it off as it softened.

We will now be treated naturally

[kalinka777]

kalinka777, Svetlana, on their own. Wraps. Uterus on heels-sole + polyethylene bag + cotton sock + woolen sock for 20-30 minutes. Remove-wash-grease with fat cream

Anechka, you are a treasure trove of ideas and a generator of them, besides. I have not yet embodied the buds soaked in vinegar marinade, but I was so impressed and remembered to me. It is necessary to use the uterus as well.

Olga is thanks to your theme, you will learn so many interesting things.

[Gaby]

Gaby, Vikus,

Girls, how wonderful that I found this forum, re-read the whole Temko, there are several questions, I have apple cider vinegar. I already have a vinegar uterus, so I want to make a new batch, I am interested in such a moment, do you need to put the uterus in a new batch of juice right away? mix the juice with water and sugar, strain and put the uterus there? no need to wait for the juice to ferment? Why am I asking, I'm afraid to do something wrong and the uterus will die, but she is so beautiful and healthy! And I also have a can of strained wort of 3 weeks and it smells like alcohol, but the uterus is not formed ((you can't add a uterus there, just wait?) The uterus grew quickly in the first can, it was in August and it was warm. Now is October, heating is still no, I understand that most likely the uterus does not grow because it is cool in the apartment, do you really have to pour out the whole jar?

[Chocolate]

Chocolate, welcome to our forum! You will love it here!
Acetic uterus is usually added immediately to activate fermentation. BUT this is true if made from pure juice. Since, if made from crushed raw materials, then it must be mixed until the pulp is separated every day, and at the same time it is very difficult to keep the vinegar uterus intact.
Then it can be added after filtering from the pulp to improve the properties of the future vinegar itself.
But if it begins to grow actively and is not removed, it will gobble up all the vinegar.
The thin uterus is very difficult to keep intact. Sometimes it is necessary to slightly disturb the vinegar itself, and it dies. If the uterus sank to the bottom, then it died, and it must be removed from the vinegar - in my opinion, the taste deteriorates, and with a long presence of dead vinegar. uterine vinegar may cloudy.
Maybe your smell is not alcohol, but nevertheless mash? Perhaps a lot of sugar was added, but the apples were sweet in themselves?
How did you do it? Yeast or bread added? It is not always just that wild yeast is able to properly start the process.
Some even use wine yeast for a more predictable result.
Put in a warm place, taste it, if it is sweet, leave it like that, if it is sour, you can add a little sugar and throw in a crust of natural bread, then put it in a warm place. Perhaps, it is just that the alcohol has not yet passed into acetic and malic acid due to not too active fermentation due to the low temperature. If the taste is obvious, a rotten taste, pour it out!

[Rada-dms]

Rada-dmsThank you so much for the answer)) I did it without yeast and without bread, like the first time when an excellent mother was formed in vinegar, this jar initially also had good fermentation, I strained everything, added honey at the rate of 50 grams per liter of liquid and put it in a dark place, I've been standing for so long, but the uterus is gone. smells like alcohol, tastes sour, translucent, a little precipitate. Today I will make juice from fresh apples and transplant the uterus there, just such a question, do you need to add water and sugar to the juice? Today I will definitely post photos of my cans here)

UPD, unfortunately, I can't add a photo, I try it through a radical, but it tells me that you can't post links here until a ban, and I don't know how else to upload a photo.

When you click on "reply", a window will pop up .... at the top right in red there is a button "insert author's photo into message"

Or else there is a description here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=408033.0

[Chocolate]

Chocolate, you need a little sugar, the amount depends on the sweetness of the juice.
By the way, honey can inhibit fermentation. If after the active stage the sweet taste predominates, then honey should be added minimally, only to enhance the medicinal properties and refine the taste.
I think that everything with the second vinegar is normal, it will see, and it will be the very thing!

thank you all for the answers) here I am sharing photos)


I drained the vinegar as here and taught. through a tube) everything turned out to be extremely simple))) I already made new juice, filtered it, did not add water, a little sugar and put the vinegar uterus there) I'm looking forward))

Yes, everything is fine, how transparent! The uterus is already very thick, hold it a little and remove it, otherwise you will be left without vinegar with such a small amount. You can try to gently separate it, discard the lower part, or use it for medicinal purposes.
If thrown away, there is a high probability of a new one forming after its presence.
Vinegar should be seen for six months in a cool dark place. Pour and let sit for a year to compare flavor and strength. The annual is very good!

[Rada-dms]

Rada-dms, so I wrote above that I already took it out and put it in fresh juice, now I will wait for a new vinegar))

Ahh, I work here, I did not immediately understand that the second can contains the same vinegar. Sorry!

[Rada-dms]

Rada-dms, the photo shows the same jar, only BEFORE draining the transparent part and already with transparent vinegar in another container and sediment along with the uterus, which I carefully took out and already put in a jar of fresh juice, I hope she will be good there, I want to keep it her until next year)) I treat her like a pet already)) thank you very much for your answers, advice, I read a lot of interesting things in this Temko, sorry I didn't find her in the summer, I would make vinegar from all over)))) fruits there was a lot in the garden)

[Chocolate]

Chocolate, Next year and I hope for apples, so let's break our hearts! Keep in touch if you want to keep the vine. uterus, it is better to pour the vinegar into a high, medium-necked jar, otherwise it will eat the entire large volume. And there at least it will be possible to separate the lower part less traumatically.

Hello. Help, please, if possible. I put in vinegar. Stage 1 - I crumbled apples in a combine, poured water, added sugar. After 2 weeks, strain, squeeze, add sugar. Now 40 days have passed. The result is in the photo. Today it began to smell like mash in the whole room, before only in the closet.Should I keep waiting and hope for something, or is it all useless?

[yu-yulichka]

yu-yulichka, in forty days he should not wander ... And for some reason he is muddy, perhaps still wanders. Let's wait, it must have been very hot in the closet. Place at a temperature of 22-23 C in a dark place, write down what happens in two weeks. Sometimes the process takes up to 60 days.

Girls, teach! What happened? It doesn't look like a uterus either, but it doesn't smell like mold either

[svetn]

svetn, something has already been severely neglected ... If not mold, then they caught some wild culture, which has already developed quite strongly. And how long does the vinegar take, is it already strained? It is necessary to try the vinegar itself, drag the pipe deeper and strain a tablespoon. Taste it, is there such a rotten aftertaste, as is the case on barrel olgruz, which were kept warm?
It will not be possible to remove this case neatly, you cannot filter. You can try to drain with a straw to the level of this substance, but only if the taste and smell are normal.
If a small batch, I would pour everything out.
Dirt could get in, the normal fermentation process could not start right away. Apples, by the way, your own or store?
It's a shame to watch!
I know that sometimes a lot of honey kills unnecessary flora, but this is when brewing beer ...

Girls, teach! What happened? It doesn't look like a uterus either, but it doesn't smell like mold either

Svetlana, this is mold!
Don't try to smell anymore, just breathe in the spores!
Throw it out without regret ...

[alba et atra]

alba et atra, Lena, it’s sometimes hard to tell! And even without analysis ... It may be some kind of film yeast, but I certainly would not risk it.

but I certainly wouldn't risk it.

Everything, girls, convinced, pour out. This is the second phase, it’s worth a month, purchased apples, Krasnodar and blackcurrant cake remained, I put it there too, but something went wrong ...
Thank you all.

Hello girls. So on my grape vinegar, the same film formed


It doesn't smell sweet, it smells and tastes like sour homemade grape wine, it's not mold for sure, it's just covered with such a film, when sugar is added, it begins to actively foam for several days, I tried to remove this film with a clean bandage, removed it completely, added sugar, but after stopping fermentation, this film appeared again. It seems that this foam has settled into a film. The vinegar has been strained since October 18.

the same film formed

Do you use vinegar for the first time?

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, yes, I put it out of the fact that it will not be a pity to pour out in case of failure. It was very interesting what would happen.

This is my second time in the flight, a couple of years ago everything was covered with mold at the fermentation stage, this year I brought the wort to the second phase without problems, but the vinegar did not work out again, alas, not my product. Well, okay, I'll buy it in the store.

I have already noticed that mold grows if the carrion has lay for several days. Even if dark spots are cut out. This year I made vinegar from apples-pears harvested from a tree. She also put it out of the carrion, but, on the same day, as she collected it. If there was not enough immediately for the fermentation container, I added it the next day (or every other day), but did not give the apples a day to lie. There was no mold at all. Even a hint

[Silyavka]

SilyavkaIt doesn't look like mold, it looks like a vinegar womb, I would not remove such a value))

[Natasha]

Natasha, the vinegar uterus is slimy, and this is just some kind of film, but I'm in no hurry to pour it out, we'll see what happens.

I also watch the banks, the film began to appear, it smells like a wash from the closet as I go through))) until I climb, I'll wait, suddenly it's the uterus that forms like this