RepeShock
Quote: lara55
Does yours smell nice or too ........?

Well, I don’t know, I opened the package, sniffed, it seemed to smell normal)))
I don't remember the groin anymore.
lara55
Quote: RepeShock
opened the package, sniffed, it seemed to smell normal
Irina, exactly when cooking what smell?


Added Wednesday 28 Dec 2016 10:10 PM

Quote: RepeShock
I put it in another, mixed it, and it rushes right under the spoon))) This is leaven! From pharmacy hops, I didn't have it
We must try to plant in a dacha in a corner somewhere.
RepeShock
Quote: lara55
exactly when cooking what smell?

Normal. But the pharmacy was also normal.

By the way, you can still buy hops from grandmothers in the market, where the quality will be better than the pharmacy one.
Marika33
RepeShock, Irinawhat a wonderful leaven! (y) Congratulations! The leaven is strong, active, it will have excellent bread! Thanks for the photo, Irina!
Irina, Larisa, yellow pollen in hop cones is lupulin, the most valuable substance.
With a late harvest of lupulin cones, there are almost no, this pollen falls off. For the second year we have been collecting the hop cones themselves, in the sun they were already overripe and as soon as you pull such a liana, pollen falls off from it. We didn't take such cones.
Larissa, the smell is the same, that in the pharmacy, that when you collect it yourself. The first times when boiling, it seems that a pungent smell, but then I like it. And the pillows are fragrant from the cones and very useful!
The difference between pharmacy hops and your own is great. I believe that there is absolutely no lupulin in the pharmacy. It is most likely collected separately (I read that it is sifted with special sieves), therefore, when squeezing out the pharmacy hops, after boiling, there is no resin on the hands and in the pan. And in your hops, the hand is in tar and the dishes have to be cleaned of tar.
Larissa, if you are going to plant hops in the country, then you need to plant them in an old bucket so that the roots do not spread, otherwise you will not get rid of it.
RepeShock

marika33, Marinochka, thank you for the recipe!
Marika33
Irochka, good health to you and your family!
Irisha, I like the pictures so much, where the gorgeous leaven, the most beautiful bread on it! I am always happy when everything is great with bakers!
I'm really happy with this, but if it doesn't work out, then I worry
RepeShock
Quote: marika33
I'm really happy about it

Thank you, Marisha! It's so good when a person is not indifferent
lara55
Quote: marika33
Larisa, if you plan to plant hops in the country, then you need to plant in an old bucket,
Marinathanks for the hint. I read that it is very spread over the site and it is unrealistic to bring it out later. Very valuable information on the collection of hops and lupulin.
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Quote: RepeShock
You can still buy hops from grandmothers in the market, where the quality will be better than the pharmacy one.
Irina, did not think. I'll have to look at the markets. Better yet, plant it yourself.
In the bag, the smell is normal, but when cooking, probably out of habit, it seemed very sharp.
3rd day - periodically put in warm water, then wrap it with a towel. Above, the splendor and bubbles are very nothing, inside they are very tiny.
31 we are leaving for friends to celebrate the New Year, will arrive only on the 2nd. We'll have to put it in the refrigerator. The daughter will definitely not look after him.


Added Thursday, December 29, 2016 1:48 PM

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Marika33
Irisha, thank you!
Larissa, not a very active leaven? How much has it increased? If now there is no time to do it, you can put it in the refrigerator, and when there is time, add honey and place it in a warm place. She must gain strength. The photo shows that there are bubbles, that she is alive.
lara55
Quote: marika33
Is it a very active leaven? How much has it increased
The sourdough has not increased in volume at all, only the top is fermenting, I mix it in the morning and evening, alive.
Quote: marika33
If now there is no time to do it, you can put it in the refrigerator, and when there is time, add honey and place it in a warm place.
Tomorrow another whole day, I will cherish and groom .., then I'll have to go to the refrigerator.
Marika33
Larissa, now add honey to the leaven, maybe she has little sweetness ?, adding honey will not spoil it, you will push to more activity.
lara55
Quote: marika33
add honey to the leaven now
Marina, on the second day I reported a teaspoon of honey. I'll go and put in another teaspoon and mix it at the same time. Bubbles very well on top.
Put art. l., mixed, wrapped, let's see what happens tomorrow.


Added on Friday 30 Dec 2016 09:59 AM

Synopsis: there were no significant changes overnight, there are good small bubbles on the surface, there is no increase in volume, small mold appeared on the walls of the can. The contents are poured into a clean jar.
Marika33
Larissa, if mold appears, then it is better to remove the leaven in the refrigerator now, otherwise there will be excess acid. Larissa, such a leaven will not raise bread, you need to buy hops, make a fresh broth and you can stir it with this leaven, adding honey and a little flour.
RepeShock

If it is mold, it is better to throw it away.
lara55
Marina, Irina, thanks for the advice. The mold on the side of the jar was much higher than the sourdough itself, I carefully poured the sourdough on the other side, it's a pity to pour it out. I went to put it in the refrigerator. I'll come and see if there is no mold, then I'll cook it fresh and add to this one. The hops remained.
RepeShock

Larissa, nevertheless, if it really was mold, it is impossible to get rid of it, it permeates the entire product.
Because what we see is only the visible part, everything else is invisible and dangerous for health, and even more so for leaven, you will bake bread from it, why do you need this risk?

Better to put a new portion after the holidays.
lara55
Quote: RepeShock
Better to put a new portion after the holidays.
Girls, I obey and obey
RepeShock

Larochka, everything will work out!
Natalia Iks
Marina, girls! Happy New Year, everyone! I wish you happiness, health, good luck, peace in your family and country!
Tatka1
Girls! Happy New Year!
Health and wellbeing!
Let the house always smell of fresh bread and other sweets!
Light
marika33, Happy New Year! Happy loaves and peace at home! And health, of course!
Exactly a year has passed since I started baking sourdough bread according to your recipe. A few days ago, I started a new sourdough - already on hops of the 2016 harvest.
Yesterday I baked bread - as always - the result is amazing! How I love him!

Thanks again!
lara55
Quote: Light
A few days ago I started a new leaven
Quote: Light
Yesterday I baked bread - as always - the result is amazing!
Happy.
My attempts have so far been unsuccessful. On the evening of the 2nd, I put in a new leaven. Today there is little frothiness on top. I'm waiting .... If there is no movement, then I will have to buy hops again, and plant my own in the summer.
Girls, thank you all for the pleasant atmosphere and professionalism
Merry Christmas.
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orange
Merry Christmas to all bread makers !!!

Today I was honored to try to bake bread. (less than half a year, in real life the sourdough is a month old) put the dough at 10 in the morning, there are no bubbles until now. Well, ... I took the leaven from the refrigerator and, on a whim, fed it with 50g of water and 50g of rye flour. she bubbled up, played.
Question. whether it will be possible to add the fed sourdough to the non-playing dough and how much. (the recipe was divided into 2 those for 500 ml of dough water)
Light
lara55,
it is better not to plant hops ... it will fill everything!
I just found a place where it grows ... I collect it there)))
lara55
Quote: Light
it is better not to plant hops ... it will fill everything
Light, I read that this aggressor fills everything.
marika33, Marinochka advised to put him in an old bucket so that he would not flood the whole neighborhood.
In our country house, not only hops are not nearby, but even Ivan's tea does not grow.
RepeShock
Quote: Light
it will fill everything!

Not everything, but only what is free
And even if this is not poison. And beautiful


Posted on Friday 06 Jan 2017 7:51 PM

Quote: lara55
but even Ivan's tea doesn't grow.

Ivan-tea is very fond of all sorts of not very, let's say, good places, such as: old garbage dumps, old buildings collapsed, places after fires.
No, he grows in normal places, but he loves such))))
lara55
Today is 5 days for leaven

The simplest hop starter

does not want to activate. It tastes sweet, that is, there is enough sweetness. Today was the sun and the whole day I warmed the jar with the sun. I mix, no increase in volume, only bubbles on top.
RepeShock

Larissa, and try to give her flour with water, for example, a teaspoon. and mix.
Maybe he will wake up.
Is it cold at home?
lara55
Irina, I'll try to add flour and water tomorrow.
Quote: RepeShock
Is it cold at home?
Not summer, overboard -30. The leaven stands near the battery on a stool.
RepeShock
Quote: lara55
Not summer

Well, they drown in different ways everywhere.
It's also cool here at home, although not below -10 outside.
lara55
Quote: RepeShock
they drown in different ways everywhere.
Irina, in the kitchen +20
Marika33
Girls, excuse me for the untimely answers! I was very busy!
Happy New Year and Merry Christmas to everyone! I wish you peace, happiness, so that your home will always have the aroma of fresh tasty bread, goodness, joy, understanding, prosperity, love, peace of mind, good health and all the best!
Natalia Iks, Tatka1, Light, lara55, orange, RepeShock, girls, thank you very much for your congratulations!
orange, Sveta, like sourdough after feeding, did you bake bread on it?
lara55, Larissa, I believe that the hops are to blame for the inactivity of the leaven. Look for hops in another pharmacy and see the packaging time, preferably fresh.
RepeShock, Irina,
lara55
Quote: marika33
see packing time, it is desirable to be fresh.
Marina, thanks for the answer. The hops were fresh-2016. Stood in the sun for two days and froth better. Today, unfortunately, there is no sun. It is a pity to pour it out, it is felt that the leaven is alive.
Quote: marika33
Look for hops in another pharmacy
I will look at another pharmacy, the process of preparing this leaven is protracted. At the same time, it is necessary to supply the leaven from another purchase.


Posted Monday 09 Jan 2017 11:35 AM

Girls, I have such joy! She opened her starter culture, and there
The simplest hop starter

This is what it means in the sun warmed up - she was cold


Posted Monday 09 Jan 2017 11:38 AM

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RepeShock
Quote: lara55
Girls, I have such joy!

Oh, how nice and joyful! Hurrah!
She was just cold, yes.
Marika33
Larissa, congratulations, the sourdough worked! Yes, 20 degrees is very cold for sourdough, it needs 28.
Larissa, are we going to bake bread?
Ira,, Thank you!
lara55
Quote: marika33
, will we bake bread?
MarinaThanks for the sourdough recipe and clarification. The oven will be required. I want the leaven to get a little stronger. I have not yet decided on the bread recipe. I will bake without a form, because there are no forms. On the railway, I also bake without molds in the oven ..
ninza
Marina, girls, hello. I bought a new pack of hops: I hope that now everything will work out. Tomorrow I will put in the leaven, the old one is still in the refrigerator. She is very bitter and not active at all, but it seems to me that she is alive. Is it worth adding it to a new one and how much?
RepeShock
Quote: ninza
Is it worth adding it to a new one and how much?

Maybe not, if bitter?
Better to be new, fresh
Good luck!
lara55
Quote: RepeShock
Maybe not, if bitter?
Better to be new, fresh
Nina, I agree with Irina. Irina has a very good description of the preparation of the leaven so that there is no bitterness on page 110 post 2187.
ninza
Girls, thanks! Just how not to prepare the hop broth to find out whether it will be bitter or not ...
RepeShock
Quote: ninza
decoction of hops to find out: will it be bitter or not ...

The broth will be bitter in any case.
You need to see what kind of leaven will turn out.
lara55
My leaven tastes sour today, but I didn't feel bitterness, although the broth was very bitter. Added honey, mixed, foams, rises very well. Today the sun is shining and I will still warm the leaven in the sun. In the evening, probably, I’ll get it.
lara55
I baked bread, forgot to take a picture. In the next step I will take a picture. For 300 ml of serum, I added 3 tbsp. l. sourdough, kneaded on flour of the 1st grade, added sunflower seeds. Baking without form. The bread turned out to be tasty, not bitter, there is just a little sourness. Fitted well.
Marina, huge thanks for the recipe, clarification.
Marika33
ninza, Nina, did you put the sourdough on fresh hops, how do you do it?
lara55, Larissa, congratulations, I am very glad that you did it! When there is a desire, everything goes well. Did your family like the taste of the bread?
RepeShock, Ira, thanks!
ninza
Marinochka, dear, postponed the process until tomorrow. I decided that everything would go better in a calm atmosphere and in a good mood. Thanks for work.
Marika33
Nina, rightly so, the leaven does not like careless attitude. Hope everything will be great for you this time!
ninza
Marinochka, I know if that - you and the girls are near.
lara55
Quote: marika33
Did your family like the taste of the bread?
Marina, gobbled up instantly - after a couple of hours there was no bread. It is necessary to make a batch of "bread"
lara55
So I got to the photo. Knead again with whey, first grade flour and added sunflower seeds. The bread is delicious, there is no bitterness, very little sourness, but it can also be from whey.
Marinochka, thanks again for the sourdough recipe.
The simplest hop starter
Marika33
LarissaHow glad I am that you succeed with the use of leaven!
The bread is very beautiful, the crumb is chic, porous, airy. Yes, sourdough bread is delicious!
Further success in baking bread for the joy and health of your family!
Larochka, thanks for the photo report of the handsome bread!

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