Liubov_Liubov
I made dumplings with squid and shrimp. Kneaded the dough! He died on squid ((
Liubov_Liubov
Quote: Pchela Maja
It turns out that all the savings from buying "there" can be spent on repairs here, if, again, they undertake to repair for money.
Given that the kitchen robot is often used in the kitchen, the risk is very high.
Still, the difference in price is 2 times. Broke down 1 from there, ordered the second. As a result, you have for the same price as if you bought there a harvester and spare parts for it (suppose a bowl and nozzles), which is already good.
But if the quality is such that the percentage of defects is so high that there is a risk that the second one will break, then it is not worth taking either here or there.
Here, too, run to exchange or repair, albeit free, hemorrhoids, and free is relative.
To be honest, Ani's breakdown upset me. I have already buzzed the ears of all sisters with such an inexpensive device. But now I do not know whether to buzz back. 2 cases of factory defects for 5-6 owners of Proficus here is a LOT. But still not a system after all. A third will appear - then I will definitely dissuade my relatives from the PC until a stable model comes out. Or look at TM after all.
Alex100
Good evening everyone! Still, the main disadvantage associated with the PC is that there are practically no spare parts. Well, for example, take this unit here for 29,000 with almost a year guarantee, and then what. It's comparatively little
The mechanical part can of course still be repaired on your own, ordered there in the workshop, etc.
Electronics, well, also not a question, there are specialists. And if the drive? ( engine)
Well, with Lyuba, this happened soon, but after all, after a year, the engine may burn out
Then there is nowhere without a branded unit, you cannot pick up and rewind any
The PC is certainly a good device, but it's damp ... maybe in the future, something will change
Write your claims to the developer, maybe there will be improvements
Liubov_Liubov
Something I didn't even think that there was no post-warranty service at all, and if a breakdown in a year, or lost a check or a warranty card - the same eggs, only from the side ... Or get rid of folk methods if repairable, or throw it away. Apparently Comfort-maximum stimulates repeat sales)))
But really, I have never heard of equipment being sold in the country, but not being repaired ...
Z. Y. Maria, for large suppliers, the technique of writing off for defective products lies with the manufacturer, not the seller, and therefore there is the concept of a global guarantee - write-offs or returns for defects are re-submitted to the manufacturer. The simplest example - the iPhone just stopped turning on after 4 months (it was bought in the British Apple Store), after which it was repaired for free in the USA, since it stopped turning on during training there
Z. Z. Y. S. I generally keep checks for one or two months, then I throw them away, because there are a lot of papers ...
Masinen
Liubov_Liubov, well, iPhone and Apple are completely different)
But our services do not accept iPhones bought abroad)
We have our own rules in our country))
Njashka
Oh, how I wanted to buy this girl's aggregate .. and now I really doubted
Liubov_Liubov
Quote: Masinen

Liubov_Liubov, well, iPhone and Apple are completely different)
But our services do not accept iPhones bought abroad)
We have our own rules in our country))
Maria, whether our official services accept iPhones purchased abroad under warranty, I cannot say. But I can say for sure what they do for money. It's the same as if you bought an iPhone here, lost your receipt and broke the screen, you go to the service and they will change it for money, but they will change the screen, and will not say “we don’t and will not have spare parts for it, and in general we saw such a thing once in a lifetime and then in a video on YouTube 3 minutes ago. "Well, this is not serious ... like we will change, but what if a person's engine burned out after a year and one day? And if the apartment is flooded and the documents are actually destroyed, and if the apartment is robbed and the warranty card is not restored? At the slightest breakdown - buy again at double the price?
Alex100
Here is one more thing .... iPhones, iPads, Samsung and other electronic devices are widespread among the population, therefore spare parts for them are available and are being repaired, even in the most remote corners of our vast country. And the PC has just appeared on the market, unlike the same TM ...
Maybe over time, something will change ...
Liubov_Liubov
Well, I have a Samsung gear s - a smart watch. They are absolutely not common in Russia. Over the past 6 months, I have not met a single person who would wear them. And on a business trip, I left a cradle battery for them at the hotel, without which it is impossible to charge them. If anything, the watch is under warranty, yes, but the case is absolutely out of warranty. 1 call to the service center and an answer, unfortunately they are not available. The cost is 2,500, you need to make a pre-order and within 5-7 working days it will be delivered to a convenient branch of the SC. ALL! I didn't have to call the manufacturer or their representative office in Russia. Simply because the representative office in Russia has previously adjusted the supply chain for spare parts for even a fairly rare gadget. By the way, the gadget is more than 2 times cheaper than the proficiency and it was the second or third week since the start of sales, wild December days with price jumps and devaluation ...
Alex100
Lyuba, it's nice to know that Samsung cares so much about customers))
Olihka
Girls, and who tried the modes "jam" and "sauce". Where can you read about them? How do they work? And then I only have German ...
darek
Hey. I am from Poland. excuse me please, I do not speak good Russian. I would like to ask if you can make w PC oil? How long do you have a PC? use it often? Are you making rye and making flour? i hope you understand me
Masinen
Darek, good evening!
Yes, everything is clear.
Nobody made butter, because you need good heavy cream.
I also did not try to make flour.
Personally, I have had it for almost 4 months already. I use it almost every day)
darek
Thank you for your prompt reply. I know that in TM you can make butter and flour.
on YT are these your movies?
anna_k
Masinen, I wanted to ask - do you make dough with knives or with a special nozzle? How is it correct in general?
It seemed to me that with a nozzle it is immediately more elastic, but with knives you need to stir a little with your hands.
Masinen
Darek, yes, these are my video reviews.
anna_k, do you mean yeast?
I have not tried it with a nozzle. Doesn't it jump off when kneading?
Bul
I really like to make vegetable caviar in the PC!
Masinen
Yulia, let's write how you are doing.
Make a recipe in the subject, if it's not difficult for you)
Bul
Mash. I do not know how to recipe! Rather, you need to try on a laptop! And I always write from my tablet! I'll try! For now, in short:
Put onions, carrots in a jug and chop at speed 6! Then oil and put to fry at 110 degrees. speed 1. Then I cut the peeled zucchini large and large eggplant into large slices and also in a bowl! There is also chopped bell peppers at random and something from tomatoes (fresh, tomato paste, tomato sauce, tomatoes in their own juice), the most important thing with tomato paste is neat - so as not to shift, otherwise it will be sour! You can put garlic, but they don't eat mine with garlic! Salt and pepper everything, a little sugar. All this is fried for 20-25 minutes. Then I turn on speed 5 and grind! Delicious after fridge!
anna_k
Quote: Masinen

anna_k, do you mean yeast?
I have not tried it with a nozzle. Doesn't it jump off when kneading?
Yes, everything, and for noodles with dumplings, and the usual yeast.
The nozzle does not jump off, but then it is so lazy to clean it))))

By the way, after the repair, my proficook works fine, now everything is clearly recorded. I really hope that nothing else will happen to him.
Well, now he stands on the windowsill, does not vibrate, soups are perfectly cooked without supervision.
It's time to start mastering the book with recipes from the thermomix that Lyuba sent me
Olihka
Masinen, Masha, good afternoon.Do you need a soup with meatballs in a basket? How much temperature and time should I set? Can tell me, somewhere here I read your notes.
darek
I would also like to ask Bul, anna_k and others how long do you have a PC and how often do you use it? sorry for my language
Masinen
Anya, uraaa !! Very happy for you !!
Olga, I apologize for not answering. There was no Internet)
Yes, you need meatballs in the basket))
Bul
Quote: darek

I would also like to ask Bul, anna_k and others how long do you have a PC and how often do you use it? sorry for my language
I use it often. I bought it relatively recently. Maybe four months. A very necessary and convenient assistant in the kitchen.
ladulenjka
good afternoon, members of the forum. some time ago I came across your forum, and I have no regrets. I liked you very much. Maria, you are just a smart girl who watched all your videos and with each video the desire to buy this unit is more and more lit up.
Quote: Olihka

Girls, and who tried the "jam" and "sauce" modes. Where can you read about them? How do they work? And then I only have German ...
Olihka, if you like I can translate
Masinen
Valentine, welcome to our friendly forum !!!
I am very glad that you liked my videos.
I try to show the capabilities of the device as best I can))
Mila1
Masha, tell me, please, what is the difference between minced meat in a blender and in a PC? And here and there knives. In a blender, I don't like how chewed. I like it from a meat grinder, but you are crushed all the time in a PC I watch. And yet, in your opinion, is meat better through a meat grinder or in a PC?
Masinen
Ludmila, come on)
I like the PC, because it turns meat into porridge, but I need such minced meat)
And through a meat grinder, another minced meat comes out.
Those looking for what, then I choose where to do)
Mila1
Quote: Masinen

Ludmila, come on)
I like PC, because it turns meat into porridge, but I need such minced meat)
And through a meat grinder, another minced meat comes out.
Those looking for what, then I choose where to do)
Masha, thanks! I look at the typewriter and think whether it is necessary or not
ladulenjka
MariaYou say in your video "Comparative review of PC and TM" that the turnover in TM is higher than in PC. Could you write what is the RPM range in the PC?
Masinen
Valentine, Thermomix has Smooth adjustment of rotation speed from 40 to 10200 rpm.
And in Proficook below. The instructions do not write the number of revolutions per minute, but from the sound and speed of rotation, I hear what is lower.
But maybe the speed is lower, he has sharp knives and they compensate for this.
ladulenjka
Quote: Masinen

Valentine, Thermomix has Smooth adjustment of rotation speed from 40 to 10200 rpm.
And in Proficook below. The instructions do not write the number of revolutions per minute, but from the sound and speed of rotation, I hear what is lower.
But maybe the speed is lower, he has sharp knives and they compensate for this.
Maria, thanks for the answer.
I asked the same question on the proficook website, and now I don't know if they will answer me or leave the question open.
but I checked out the car.
soon, very soon, and I will join the ranks of the PC owners.
Masinen
Valentine, I think it has the same revs as MyCook.
There are about 8500 or something, if I'm not mistaken))

In, I found: Maikuk Engine: Power - 600 W; from 100-8500 rpm
ladulenjka
Maria, before I came across this forum, looked at both MyCook and Jupiter (Thermomaster), it looks like Sekrett, and Rosenstein & Söhne Thermo-Koch- & Mixmaschine KM-2513 V3 and other machines, looking for an inexpensive alternative to TM. the amount seemed to me really huge, in order to buy and put it aside for not using it.
I want to try it first and if you like it, you can buy the TM. but not like it - not a great loss.
Well, let's see how I'll make friends with the PC.
Ekaterina25
Hello.
I join YOU. We ordered a PC today. Tomorrow - after tomorrow they will bring. I will share my impressions.
I also want to say thank you Masinen for the video on YouTube. The amount of equipment is impressive.
Olihka
Good morning! Proficus has been living with me for three weeks now and I like him more and more. You just need to get used to it, figure it out and make friends with it.The video machines and simple recipes helped a lot, thank you very much. And when I saw how he whips the whites, and the custard dough is so cool !!!!! Girls, write what else are you cooking new in it
Olihka
Kesha has been living with me for a long time, but in a PC it's easier to beat proteins, for example. Now the strawberries have gone and they are wonderful on the automatic mode "marmalade" with sugar .... Throw it in, turn on the automatic mode and go do other things. In general, any fruit (apricots, orange with lemon, ginger and cinnamon are also great).
Masinen
Valentine, think correctly! I already wrote that they will buy an expensive TM and do not use it.
And I tried it, if you liked it, then you can buy an expensive device)

Ekaterina25, nevertheless decided to try ProfiKuk))
Thanks for watching my videos))
Olihka, Olya, thanks for the tip! Very valuable!
I'm too lazy to drive Kesha sometimes and it's easier to turn on Proficuk or TM)

By the way, I recently decided to make minced meat for Nagets in TM. In short, he started walking on the tabletop, but ProfiKuk stands rooted to the spot and there is no need to guard him.
Therefore, it is better to do minced meat in a PC, look)
Bul
And what kind of marmalade regime?
Masinen
Yulia, this is auto mode, look, there is soup, marmalade and sauce.
Bul
Mash, where to look? In the instructions?
Masinen
Turn on your PC. Press the auto button and look at the display.
The first mode is Soup, then Jam (berries are drawn), then Sauce.
Bul
Thanks to such a useful topic! : girl-q: I had no idea that there are such modes! And of course my personal thanks to you Masha!
Ekaterina25
MasinenYes, ProfiCook decided, we have a queue for TM in Germany, if you order now - until August, and later - generally in the next. year
So, I'll start to master the PC))))
Mirabel
Catherine, That's interesting, we are. kind of like neighboring countries. Here nafig no one needs all the PCs and TMs combined .. maybe you have more visitors from our post-Soviet territories
Good luck in mastering, we will spy on you.
Olihka
Masinen, I also liked to make minced meat in Proficuk. Here is the auto-mode "sauce" I do not know yet how to master it?
Masinen
Olga, and what? I haven't even tried it))
ladulenjka
Olga, here is the translation of auto programs
Sauces
Duration: 26 min.
Temperatures: 120 ° and 100 ° C
Speed: 1 at intervals
After pressing the Start / Stop button, the heating program starts. After 2, 3 ½ and 16 minutes. the program is paused. You will hear a beep and you can add the following ingredients, if desired, through the hole on the lid. If you want to continue the program without adding, just press the Start / Stop button. If this was not done, then after 90 seconds. the program will continue automatically at speed 1 at intervals.
Note!
The automatic Sauces program is not suitable for Ru-based sauces (Frying flour in butter). You can prepare these sauces without using the auto program.


Jam
Duration: 20 min.
Temperature: 100 ° C
Speeds: 6 and 1 at intervals
After pressing the Start / Stop button, the program starts up for 3 minutes. at a speed of 6. Only then does heating start. The display shows the temperature reached. A signal will be generated and you must press the Start / Stop button. If this was not done, then after 90 seconds. the program will continue automatically at speed 1 at intervals.
ladulenjka
Quote: Ekaterina25

MasinenYes, ProfiCook decided, we have a queue for TM in Germany, if you order now - until August, and later - generally in the next. year
So, I'll start to master the PC))))
True?! maybe this is due to the fact that a new model has appeared? my friend TM31 received it within a week, was indignant, as TM5 appeared, but she was not told anything about it.
Catherinewhere did you buy the PC?
ladulenjka
Maria, did you freeze minced meat for TM or put it fresh? at the presentation of TM I was told that the minced meat first needs to freeze a little.

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