Franky
Lisichkalal, so I'm thinking ... True, I look at Instant Pot (7in1) as an alternative to Stebe. It's just that Shteba is noticeably cheaper ...
NatalyMur
Lisichkalal, Franky, girls, if my stem breaks, I will buy it again: girl_pardon: Although I love all my equipment, I can't imagine my kitchen without a stem.
Lisichkalal
Yeah, Shteba has an attractive price, but only 1 cup. I've been thinking about her for a long time and still can't make up my mind.
Masinen
Lisichkalal, Franky, personally, I don't see an alternative to Shteb))
Lisichkalal
Natalia, is there anything to compare with? Are there other mules and pressure cookers?
Lisichkalal
Mash, why? Moulinex is of excellent quality.
And then there is only 1 metal bowl, how often do you cook in it?
And we have only dd1 model. But hopefully made in germany
Lerele
I had a mulinex, the one that is 400, well, there is a staff.
They are both good, my mule was the first, as I loved her, I can't describe it, I jammed it, sent it back, well, like for repairs, and the post office broke it completely.
It has no preset programs, the pressure is high and low, but you set the time yourself.
The pot is very good and 6 liters. A very good pressure cooker.
I won't write about the staff, a song.
But it's very difficult to choose, it tastes better in a mule (I can't explain why, but everything turned out tastier than in my Brand and Shteba), but Shteba is very good for me with its stainless steel and, convenience and reliability. It’s a shame that we don’t buy DD2, and we don’t buy an extra pot either.
Franky
pressure cookers are slowly becoming popular here, a couple of years ago there was practically no choice, but now more and more ... People here admire Shteboy DD2, and here we are sitting with a cut-down DD1 Without a non-stick pot and without one button .. .: girl-th: That is why we are thinking ... Here's how in spirit - why is Shteba better than her competitors? Not in terms of functions, but in terms of use. I mean such things as reliability, for example, buttons-valves are more conveniently located, more compact, etc.
Franky
otherwise I will die soon like a buriedan donkey before haystacks multicooker
Lerele
Franky, frankly, reliability. I have it third, in Brand now I only bake, and Shteba is plowing like a workhorse. I was lucky, I bought in the first rows and I didn’t have a trimmed one, but the choice between a mule and a trimmed staff would have burst.
NatalyMur
Quote: Lisichkalal

Natalia, is there anything to compare with? Are there other mules and pressure cookers?
I have 2 pressure cookers - Oursson 5002 and Shteba, cartoon Polaris, used to be Panasonic, gave it to my parents. The main one is Shteba, the rest are in the wings.
But for her, I bought a baking pan from Redmond and the stem naturally has full functionality.
Lerele
NatalyMur, and what kind of pan from redmond? Because you can buy them from us, so maybe someone will come in handy.
dav230
I have nothing to compare with. Shteba I have my first pressure cooker. I also faced a choice (I live in France) - Shteba or Instant, he has a delayed start. I thought he was not important to me, but no, I really miss him. Moreover, they sell components to him, but not to Shteba (we have).
What I like most about Shtebe is the steel bowl, which is indestructible, I don't have Teflon. So I cook everything in it and even fry, I just don't bake one thing, but it's not scary.
I often cook soups and broths at Shtebe. True, I still cannot understand where the foam goes to people, especially if they cook from frozen meat. I always have it, so I filter the broth. I often stew meat. But I liked meat and cabbage rolls, for example, more in my usual Philips than in Shtebe. Therefore, the other day I bought myself another simple multicooker.
Lisichkalal
Lerele, what does the stripped-down staff mean? I had (I burned it) a unit with a smoking function, an analogue of the brand, I strongly disliked the quality.
Do you cook everything in a metal bowl?
I have a cook4me mule, very decent, but with character. You cannot set different pressures.
I'm looking for a girlfriend to help her)
Lisichkalal
Alyona, thanks for the message, very valuable. What phillips mule do you have?
Lerele
Lisichkalal, well, stripped down is when the temperature does not change on languor. You can't pretend soo. It's not scary to cook soup with bone in steel, and I am not afraid of the carcass ribs either. If you can buy an additional Teflon bowl here, then it's still better.
I have Teflon from Brand suitable.
Although it's a shame, like a shoemaker without boots, they make here and you can't buy what you need.
Lisichkalal
We are planning to go to Russia in the summer, where you can buy.
But you say it tasted better with Moulinex)
dav230
Lisichkalal, not at all. Still, I had to take Instant, I forgot to write that he had a bigger cup. Anyway. Shteba is also good. True, I have not quite figured it out yet, probably (I wrote above that I have steamed vegetables in the program for vegetables under pressure for a very long time, as they cook for them).
I also don't always like at Shtebe that I have to wait to relieve the pressure, but this is out of habit, in all pressure cookers as I understand it.
Shteba produces excellent milk porridge. I never did well at Philips.
The program of languor - I have never cooked in it, unless I did not simmer borsch and cabbage soup for long, and I did not put the meat for 7-8 hours. All the time I think why, if you can cook it in an hour. By the way, I always cook at a pressure of 0.7, I have not yet understood for which dishes 0.3 ...

I had Philips 3039, brought from Ukraine. It worked for a year, then the bottom plate stopped heating. By the way, the Philips bowl almost immediately began to deteriorate, although I was very careful, that's why I wanted Stebu, because she has a steel bowl.
Today they brought me a new Continental Edison. Compared with Steba, and even with Phillips, it is like a toy Bowl twice as light as a Phillips bowl. But I hope it will last longer, and if anything, you can contact the service.
Lerele
Lisichkalal, yeah, although in terms of parameters it cannot be compared with the staff and my Brand 6050.
Better to wait then, and buy in the summer, because it's better when there are more opportunities.
I've been thinking for a long time, and I can't understand why it tastes better to me in a mule. Maybe it was just love ??? I suffered for her
dav230
Quote: Lerele
why does it taste better to me in a mule

Some dishes in the cartoon are tastier for me too
Lisichkalal
)))))perhaps )))
From Russia it is reluctant to shove the staff, if only the pan.
Yes, strange, the cars are German, and the choice is limited ((
Are German dd1 Chinese too?
Lerele
LisichkalalI would float
You can make a sous look in it without buying a separate device. And yogurt too.
Lisichkalal
Alena, in Mulineksk Sook 4 me, everything is bleed off quickly and automatically. I'm happy with this cartoon, but you can't really play with the tempo and pressure there. There are only plug-in recipes.
Lisichkalal
Quote: Lerele

Lisichkalal, I would float
You can make a sous look in it without buying a separate device. And yogurt too.
Irish, for sous-vid I have a redmond cartoon. For yogurt - yogurt maker))) I am confused only by the fact that it does not burn in a metal bowl. But I'm afraid it will. The same roasting of meat, vegetables, oil, I always add a minimum.
dav230
Quote: Lisichkalal
so as not to burn in a metal bowl.

If there is not enough oil, it will burn, especially meat.
Franky
In short, it’s clear that this is a dark matter for all of you, there is at least something to compare, but I have nothing, I live like a Neaderthal with simple pots. I’ll probably wait until February-March - in the spring many manufacturers show new items. Suddenly SHE will appear - a saucepan that can do everything for free
They also write a lot of interesting things about Instant Pot, they promise precise temperature control via the Internet via a mobile phone, first of all for a sous vid. What have we lived to see, if you think about it ...
dav230
Quote: Lisichkalal
but you can't really play with the tempo and pressure there

And for what? Tell us.
Lisichkalal
Alyona, that's the whole answer, a staff without an additional bowl does not suit me, thanks)
Lisichkalal
Yes, she herself is not particularly aware, but I saw in Tanya's video that she was cooking at different pressures. Porridge, pastries ... ehh, it's better to read the topic, but 500 pages ...
And sous-vid, play with the temperature here, but I'm not interested in that.
I like that there are already many recipes for shteba. But here's a cup ambush.
NatalyMur
Quote: Lerele

NatalyMur, and what kind of pan from redmond? Because you can buy them from us, so maybe someone will come in handy.
I bought a pot from Redmond, because it was much cheaper than my own. The quality is great. I bake, fry ...
Model Redmond RB-A523.
Lucien
Lerele, have you tried baking in a stainless steel?
marinastom
Having two Shteba (the first and the second, 5-liter) and Moulinex CE4000, I think that Shteba is still in the lead! Even more volume is not important here.
By the way, Lisichkalal, Sveta, if a decision is made to "shove" the Shteba from Russia, then maybe it is better to take a 6-liter one? To her, I think, a bowl from Muli will work well, if, of course, you can buy them separately in your area. The bowl is very good, but in Russia I could not buy it.
You can ask Tanya for confidence tana33, she recently just bought DD2XL and she also has Moulinex like me.
Loksa
Marina, and which bowl from Moulinex fits the 6 liter Stebe? Does it fit exactly?
marinastom
Oksan, Moulinex has only one bowl, with AP, very good! I also bought stainless steel from ARS (stainless steel, it is stainless steel in Africa, especially since it has a steaming plate in the kit) and bronze-ceramic from LandLife (that's really shit, just threw out the money).
5 and 6 liter are the same in diameter, of course, differ in height.
Still, it's better to ask Tanya.
Loksa
Lisichkalal, you would compare a metal bowl to a metal skillet and a tefal skillet. Where does it not stick? There are wizards who do not stick in a metal frying pan. If you heat up to a running drop of water, then pour oil and put the breaded meat - YES, it will not stick, but fry beautifully. And try to fry boiled mushrooms, in a decent amount, where it won't stick? In tefal! Likewise, a metal saucepan, you can fry in it: free-lying foods, dry, breaded or, if you then add liquid and cook in a sauce, without irritating the stuck greaves or dried secreted liquid that leaves when water is added. Champignons are very well fried with stems in oil. And boiled, wet-forest, only in a tefal bowl, but you can put a lot.
Loksa
Marina, it's only about height, that's why I asked. The 6 liter staff has grown in height, and a 5 liter saucepan does not fit - the bent upper edge interferes.
Byaka zakalyaka
Lisichkalal, I also look closely at staff DD1, there is absolutely not enough money for dd2. You said that for sous-vide you have cartoon redmond. Tell me which model provides such opportunities. I am now choosing between Steba dd1 and Redmond Rmc-p350 (this is a multicooker pressure cooker). It's just that the multicooker does not suit me, I have two panasonic. And at Redmond, I'm not sure if you can clearly adjust the temperature for sous vide. Our headquarters are cheaper, but outwardly it does not quite suit me with its red cap))))), and Redmond really likes it outwardly, it suits me, it immediately comes with a good non-stick bowl (you need to buy it separately from the headquarters), but small confuses the number of owner reviews on the bread maker ... I really trust the opinion of local girls.
Girls!!! Help me decide. New Year is coming soon, but I haven’t decided on the gift yet ... I’m afraid that Santa Claus would not choose something to his taste
natushka
Quote: Loksa
compare a metal bowl to a metal skillet and a tefal skillet
Loksa, Oksana, only in a tefal pan does not stick or in any teflon? I only have thick-walled metal pans, I think about non-stick.
Lucien
Girls, I bought a 6 liter stem and did not regret it, it came in handy: when frying (without splashes, if you follow and interfere in time). I also stewed cabbage with meat yesterday. When cooking, cabbage tends to decrease (you yourself know how much). I was convinced that I had made the right choice, I also doubted.
Lerele
Lucien, nope, I haven't tried it, I bake in Brand, although I baked in Shteba too, but in the bowl from Brand, it fits, I baked in it. ... Here and there it is good.
Lucien
Byaka zakalyaka, now on ozone dd2 is cheaper than dd1. About 6 thousand.
🔗
Lisichkalal
Quote: Byaka zakalyaka
You said that for sous-vide you have a cartoon redmond. Tell me which model gives such opportunities
I make a sous-look in a regular redmond m90 multicooker, on a multi-cooker.
Loksa
natushka, in any Teflon or Tefal. In ceramics, it sticks a little, you can aluminum, hardened for years. I have many different pans, and metal, and ceramics, and cast iron, and Tefal-Teflon. Look at the Baf company, I don’t know how much they cost now, I’m happy for 10 years. From inexpensive ones, it is better to take aluminum not to wash it with aggressive detergents.
Byaka zakalyaka, It is better for the headquarters to take dd2, it can be 5 liters Her modes are more interesting.
Fenya
Dear Stebian! Your advice is very necessary!
The other day I bought an Indoor for the first time (1kg200g maybe it's a duck? I don't know) I decided to cook it on the "meat" mode for 40 minutes. When it has cooled down, it is impossible to eat, the rubber is tough and the skin and meat. I added a little water, put it on "stewing" for 4 hours. Result: slightly better, but still tough, rubbery skin, dried out, bones do not separate from each other, it is even difficult to cut, a bone covered with leather remains from the wing. Look at the photo.
It is impossible to eat and throw it away! Darling, tell me what I did wrong? Teach this bird to cook! And how to fix what has already happened?
Multi-cooker-pressure cooker-slow cooker Steba DD1 Eco
NatalyMur
Fenya, Tanya, it remains to add some water and boil for an hour in the soup mode ...
Fenya
NatalyMur, Natalia, Thank you. Specify only, is it necessary for an hour under pressure of 0.7b?
NatalyMur
Tan, of course! I never use 0.3 at all.
Fenya
Natasha, I will try, of course! I also always cook, but I did not think that this bird takes so long to cook. Wild or what?
Thanks again!
NatalyMur
Exactly, game probably
dav230
Well, you got a bird Make a stew out of it

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