Choosing a dishwasher

then short programs are not suitable for tablets.

Yes, Anh, do not fit, ethno fact. I don't even dare to check whether it will dissolve or not. After all, the final dissolution can occur during rinsing, and the agent will remain on the dishes, and we will not know!

I always keep both pills and powder at home.

Well, right! The more convenient, so we use it. As I chose the powder for myself, I am not worried anymore.

I also chose a powder for myself, because it can be dispensed based on the degree of soiling of the dishes - how I pushed it in!

dispense according to the degree of soiling of the dishes - how did you push it in!

And don't be a guy, neighbor! There are smart people!

[Zhukov Pavel]

Zhukov Pavel, It is best to use separate products, in tablets everything is very averaged. In St. Petersburg, you can pour less powder and put "1" rinse aid, it turns out well, very economically

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, here, I will try to charge and wash everything today)

And I have to use the short program almost every day, because I put my husband's meals in thermoses for work. I am too lazy to wash with my hands, but I'm afraid to use programs with drying.
So, if something not very fried was collected with the thermos, then my Japanese gel, and if something fatter, then powder.
I only use pills for intensive use, and this is very rare, wash some grates from the stove ...

In general, a dishwasher is EVERYTHING, right? She really saves my life!

Hardly anyone present doubts this. Every time I think why I didn't think of buying it before!

Lenus, what is stopping now? Won't fit anymore?

Hardly anyone present doubts this.

No, who don't like eating. Here they wrote about it.

how are you not afraid to share pills. Because everywhere they write a lot and for a long time. that this should not be done. the whole washing cycle is disrupted. it is so "designed" that first it washes away the dirt, the next component is something else, at the end is the rinse aid. and if you divide it, then all at once falls out into the cars. do you need it? Or is it such an awesome economy?
I also bought claro powder, and I like the tablets in the shell, which does not need to be removed.
and even in the introduction it is written to pmm that it is not recommended to use tablets on a short program loop (

So we divide. But my tablets are simple, two-layer. I don't think I'm breaking anything there. It's like pouring less powder. I don't have a word in the instructions for the pills.

[Elena Tim]

Elena Tim,
and I bought a Claro, the dishes began to wash badly ... I already sinned on the typewriter that the old one ... now I changed the powder and realized that it was in it! The price of the Claro bribed me ... but it did not live up to expectations ...

Nothing! And on the contrary, I'm not overjoyed at him! Completely satisfied!

I also wash my Claro, I bought it in Auchan, it washes everything very well, all the dishes are clean and clean. I like him.

I washed PMM with Claro last week. I liked that there was no strong smell of chemistry afterwards.

[Elena Tim]

Elena Tim, Tatoshenka, Ulitk @, well, so I turned out to be an exception ... regular "unwashed" dishes ...

Yes, exactly, I like the Claro because on the morning after the evening wash there is no obvious smell of chemistry. both from somat and from the finish line. from the finish line stank the most

I washed the car myself. Like this:


I also liked the salt at Claro (very convenient packaging and large crystals). The salt is like this:


And rinse aid:

[Light]

Light, but it always happens. Here, you know, ten people will say, yes, this is a matter! But if I don’t like or don’t fit this very weight, then let everyone around at least agree, I will not use it anyway. And so in everything!
Nine years ago, when I just got PMM, I started using Klaroshka. Then the funds for PMM were not sold in every store, as it is now. And God forbid to ask! I remember they looked at me as if I was a half-cut bourgeois. I ordered it on the Internet. Later, when all sorts of other products had already appeared in the shops, I tried Finish. I liked it, it washes well, but I didn't notice any difference in the quality of washing, but it costs an order of magnitude higher. Well, here, as they say, if there is no difference, why pay more? So I got hooked on Claro. From the Finish, only a bottle remained, which I enjoy and use.
Well, you, of course, choose what suits you. After all, the forums on this site are only advisory, not imposing. We just share, so to speak, our impressions, but it's all the same for you to choose. But, if you dig up something interesting, whistle. Superfluous information never hurts!

[Elena Tim]

Elena Tim, I fully support your words, but this is what happens with the finish line: what have I not tried, and still come back to it: yes: And I have not seen Claro here

[Diana]

DianaWell, as I say, this is always the case in everything!

Has anyone tried SUN powder?
It is written that it does not contain phosphates.

Then the funds for PMM were not sold in every store, as it is now. And God forbid to ask! I remember they looked at me as if I was a half-cut bourgeois.

Well, they made fun of, as if they described the situation.
Everything is adjusted in Moscow.
And we still have the same situation as you describe.
The dishwasher was only sold in one store. For some reason, it has not been brought there for about 2 months. I am already overwhelmed by panic, as stocks run out - where to run and what to do ...

And another question. For the Finish powder it is written, pour 20 ml of powder.
And if a quick wash, how much powder should you pour?

Who pours how many ml of powder for a full wash and for a short one?

[Zhukov Pavel]

Zhukov Pavel, Not my short, religion does not allow in the standard half compartment, less than 15ml of powder.

Hello everybody! While I sit and study purely theory. PMM is already the fourth day, but I expect to connect no earlier than in a week (from day to day, the sewer riser in the kitchen will be replaced), and then we will connect it.
During this time, I found out the hardness of our water through the Gorvodokanal, it is 12.8 mmol / l, that is, very hard water. It turns out that I will need to set the salt level to the highest mark (I have a Bosch, there are from 00 to 07), right?

Has anyone tried SUN powder?
It is written that it does not contain phosphates.

I now use this powder, it washes normally with our St. Petersburg water.
I don’t use short programs either, because the dishes are always assembled, and not just tea and crystal. And in my PMM it is very short - 23-25 ​​minutes.

[Ingredients: grape and citric acid.]

while studying theory, this is what I read:
DENKMIT Maschinen-Entkalker, 250g -
- to remove scale and deposits;
- protects heating elements and other parts of the machine
- Suitable for both dishwasher and washing machine.
used 2-4 times a year (1/2 pack per cycle for heavily dirty dishes (60+) WITHOUT pre-wash!), poured into an empty PMM. If it is not possible to turn off the pre-wash, then the program must be interrupted after 15 minutes. and fill in the product.
Ingredients: grape and citric acid.

Whatever one may say, but all the same acid.

And just with citric acid, how can you run a stripper?

If special. the product consists of grape and citric acid - then, logically, you can!
But everywhere on the forums they write that acid is not recommended, but special is needed. means. It turns out a dead end.

There is a suspicion that few people read the composition of the special equipment on the forums, therefore they confidently recommend it (more lemon is not solid)

it is not solid, but .... one here advises on another site washing. powder is tin. about lemon you can and think .. health is one thing .. my friend advises me to pour apples. vinegar, since she has been using it for three years already, I can't make up my mind ...

Where to pour? For cleaning every six months or something? In my opinion, acid - it is acid, which is citric, which is in vinegar, which is in special equipment, so why pay more?

my friend advises me to pour apples. vinegar, since she has been using it for three years already, I can't make up my mind ...

Well, it's a matter of proportions, of course, but in general the vinegar is too weak (and smelly), and the lemons are removed more actively. Even the harsh limescale in the toilet (sorry) cannot be cured by any of the purchased preparations, but a bag of lemon juice poured out overnight for 10 rubles works wonders.)))

I also bought my Claro, I bought it in Auchan,

Me too, and really like it.

Has anyone tried SUN powder?

I didn't like it, although the canister is very convenient.

[Bijou]

Bijou, partially off-topic question, but ... How many gr. Is it enough for a "white friend" for the night? And how much for PMM?

[Alenka212]

Alenka212, well, we have acid in sachets of 50 grams, I pour so much. This is when down into the bowl. But in the 6th bowl, I washed away these thickets differently - I boiled a kettle with a sachet of acid and slowly poured hot water on all vertical surfaces in the empty 6th bowl. And then wash off something still warm, you cannot leave it until it cools down - lime falls out again. Such scary flakes fly down! (we have many, many holes around the perimeter)

I also pour 50 grams into the washer. But I didn't dare to go to the dishwasher, there is less water in the sink and the concentration will be higher. Therefore, I put half a packet in a glass and poured it in during the hot washing process. Although you can try dry in the detergent compartment, probably next time I will. They just gave me a bottle of cleaning nonsense from Finish and the last time I cleaned it. I poured the water into a bucket so that I could see it, and somehow I didn't see the limescale, the impression was that it was cleaning the fat with lye alone.

[Bijou]

Thank you, Bijou... And I recently put 100g in the washer. hooted ....

Today I bought this phosphate-free powder


I don't know how it washes, but I wanted to try. No one had it?

I washed the dishes at night - in the morning it was clean, without streaks, streaks and foreign smell, I am very happy :-) I washed the soap on the Eco program, and on the short hour program, everything is fine. Poltava powder.

fronya, and where did you buy it? My car is still in the corridor, it seems like now they have planned for me to replace the sewage system on Monday, so I think by Monday evening we will install and start the first washing of dishes. I bought some salt, I have a rinse aid as a gift, I have some pills too, I'll go get the powder today. I also want to take a couple of different ones for comparison at once. I think at first I will play

[sima12]

sima12 It is better to start with a 100% proven, recommended product at first, even if it is expensive. And then, after setting the salt = rinse aid, switch to other means.
The first time I bought a bad detergent, I did not know about it. And it was necessary to adjust all the readings in the car. I set it up, set it up, set it up, the car didn't wash well, I was very upset. I could not change it for something else - we simply do not have a choice of funds for sale. And I simply did not know what was the reason, I thought I was out of luck with the dishwasher. Then other tablets appeared on sale - and the car immediately began to wash perfectly. I even felt sorry for the car, for so long I was wasting her brains in vain ...

So I will, thanks. The pills are at the finish line, as a gift they came to the car with a rinse aid, salt also took the finish line and with it one pill. I'll take a proven powder. There are Finish and Domol nearby, which is better?

Someone did not like the Finish, the reviews came across here. I recently began to use it, I confess - out of need, there is nothing else for sale with us. And I liked it!
And about Domol, only good reviews came across. I did not use it, we do not have it for sale.

They write about Domola that he is odorless. which is a big plus.

my friend advises me to pour apples. vinegar, since she has been using it for three years already, I can't make up my mind ...

I RINSE DISHES WITH VINEGAR SOMETIMES, IT ALSO HELPS

Is there any information about the PMM gel
Production Poland. Moreover, it says product number 1 in Poland, I found it on their website. 🔗 Our price is 65 UAH.

But the question, as I wrote earlier, bought Riviera b / phosphate. powder, everything is fine on the full cycle, salty dishes on the hour, I then turned on the program for half an hour, everything is fine, there is no white bloom or streaks. What could it be?
How I like the dishwasher, even me, where there are only two of us, for some reason it is full every day, I have it for 9 sets :-) pots, cups, jars, plates, pans ...