Preserving at home - questions, problems, answers, exchange of views, praises

[Tusya Tasya]

Tusya Tasya, Thank you.

I saw such a thing and did not know where to stick it) well, I could not help but share. a multifunctional thing and one of the functions is sterilization of cans and cans with blanks.

I have such a contraption. I bought it several years ago and have never used it. I do not sterilize much at once. And that's why I bought

And that's why I bought

in it, so I think, you can su-vidnic. she keeps the set temperature. and pasteurized juice you can try

I have an apparatus for suvid. We don't make juice. Would sell it cheap, but how to send it

I decided to write in this thread, the problem is with my sister. I rolled cucumbers yesterday: salt + vinegar, no sugar.
Poured brine to the very top, turned it over. Today I turned over and on three bottles under the lid a rim of dry, crystallized salt. The brine in the bottles is transparent, but not much time has passed.
Asks me to reload or not. And I don't know what to advise. I have never had this, although it also happened to the very top of the brine poured. Apparently, when I turned over a little brine with a lid, it squeezed out (seaming covers, not twists), so the salt was crystallized.
Girls, what can you advise? re-roll? Or let them stand like that, see how they behave?

Natasha, let it stand for a couple of weeks and see how they behave. If everything is bad, then soon there will be something with the covers.
Or they will stand for a long time.

Without sugar, cucumbers can be sour, after all, sugar smooths out the acidity and gives flavor to the cranberries.

Good morning.
Tanya, today Ira (my sister) called, one bottle has already begun to grow cloudy .......
Probably all the same covers are to blame.
I advise you to re-roll.
How to do it? drain the brine, rinse the cucumbers?, pour in a new brine?

How to do it? drain the brine, rinse the cucumbers?, pour in a new brine?

Yes, it is better to refill and re-seal.

Have the cucumber jars been sterilized before closing?

I do so cucumbers, the pickle is very tasty, they cost well

Canned cucumbers "cucumbers according to grandma's recipe" (Admin)

[Admin]

Admin, Tanechka, I am very grateful to you, yesterday I made cucumbers according to this recipe and a cucumber salad according to your recipe, and took advantage of the sterilization advice (I used our alembic and a washing sieve that we use when brewing beer), twisted 30 cans without problems

Have the cucumber jars been sterilized before closing?

Tanya, yes, and the jars and lids were sterilized, this is the law! (Mommy taught us that).

Tanya, yes, and the jars and lids were sterilized, this is the law! (Mommy taught us that).

Well, then it is called "there are griefs in life" unfortunately.

Or maybe it's not worth opening all the banks, maybe only one bad one got caught, and it happens. In general, we closely monitor the banks every day.
The lids on the cans began to swell. Types of marriage and damage to canned food

yesterday made cucumbers according to this recipe

It turns out that this is not scary, and even nice to know that banks can be dealt with so quickly.

Olya, good health, tasty and satisfying winter

Comrades, I ask for help.
I made pickled tomatoes in the summer, including assorted jars, all according to one recipe.
And just in the morning I saw that two cans were flowing.
I urgently moved it to the refrigerator, I will review the whole batch and move it to a cooler place.
The question is, is it possible to save? It was closed under the screw, made in August and September. It does not smell bad (there is no that smell, as happens when pickled cucumbers are opened, while the jars are just assorted tomatoes / cucumbers), the marinade is not cloudy, transparent, but obviously carbonated.
It's a shame, it's a pity. Please advise me something if possible.

Oh, I saw the link above, I'm already reading it, thanks!

[Olga]

Olga, if already carbonated, then just open and eat if the taste suits. Well, or open one can and try, keep the second in the refrigerator until a convenient opportunity to eat.

[svetta]

svetta, thanks for your feedback!
That is, there is no point in twisting, do I understand correctly? Actually, it's already October, and you can start. And not dangerous carbonated ones? (I am inexperienced in terms of such canned food, I've only recently started to do it).

[Olga]

Olga, no, nothing can be fixed. The fermentation process started. The same fermentation will be if you just make pickled tomatoes.
Well, in fact, it is believed that all the preservation that has deteriorated should be thrown away. Many do so. I personally always taste and try to carry out a complex of resuscitation. And what to do for you is up to you.

I personally always taste and try to carry out a complex of resuscitation.

Can you tell me about this? What can you do, rinse and pour over boiled marinade, but not roll up, but put it in food (if it tastes normal?) Or boil for a minute?

[Olga]

Olga, in this particular case, do nothing. And everything else needs to be decided only by looking at the bank.

[svetta]

svetta, I understood, thank you!

Reporting
1. on liqueurs.

Comrades, this is amazingly delicious!

Made three options.
The first is according to Lili-Kokoschka's recipe, when the cherries are packed tightly into a jar, poured over the lid with vodka and rolled to NG, kept in the dark.
It's delicious, it's almost juice, but if you don't drink vodka at all, you smell it. That is, this is such a delicious vodka. Curiously, I poured out the liqueur, and carefully threw the cherries into a colander so that they would glass. So, not a bit! She looks like dry!

The second and the third I made according to the recipes of the respected Ivanovich, taking into account the recipes and advice of Admin, using a three-stage old method.
This is my cherry and currant. Sahara put a minimum, only for the berry to give the juice.
I note that the currants turned out to be a little stronger than cherry. I will definitely do both of them, I have set landmarks for myself - what to take into account in the next season.
Many thanks for the recipes!
And this is amazing.

2. assorted marinade tomatoes with cucumbers.
It turned out very tasty, that is, cucumbers in a sweet tomato marinade turn out great, I will definitely do it, but more, if only cucumbers and tomatoes coincide.

Tell me, can you use dry horseradish root instead of horseradish leaves for conservation? Since the leaves are not always available.

[julia_bb]

julia_bb, Julia, as far as I read, you can. If you think about it, there should be even more active substance in the root than in the leaves.
And you can also do this: when the leaves are available, dry them. (This is what I did and read that it is even better than fresh leaves, since there are fewer options for poorly rinsing, etc.) I dried and used in late autumn in tomatoes.
I have a problem with horseradish leaves too. It will be urgently needed soon, but no.

Greens, horseradish, garlic for conservation, dried (Admin)



Horseradish, and other greens can be frozen.


Harvesting tops (beetroot, carrot, radish, horseradish) for freezing (Admin)



But, I prefer to dry more: individually or to make dried mixes. Perfect for preserving vegetables and pickling mushrooms

[rinse in a basin with plenty of water]

which is even better than fresh leaves, since there are fewer options for rinsing poorly, etc.)

What nonsense, sorry
Leaves of any greenery MUST be washed before ANY harvest! It doesn't matter: dry or freeze. Another question is how to do this correctly so that there are no different byak left in them.

That's right, if the greens are previously rinse in a basin with plenty of water, then there are more chances that "in free swimming" all the larvae cockroaches and other guano will fall out of the grass.
Then rinse the herbs and shake off the water well. And then put it in the dryer to dry. Therefore, I dry the greens first at a high temperature, so that too wet greens dry out faster, and excess moisture is gone. And only then, when the greens wilt a little, I transfer them to a lower, gentle temperature and bring them to full readiness.

For me, the most successful way to wash greens, green washing carousel, and preferably a large size-volume, it is more convenient to wash vegetables and herbs in it for preservation (and even berries !!!), more space "for free flight". I wash the greens in 2-3 waters with my hands (wash and rinse), and then turn on the carousel itself to remove water from the greens. Works great! The greens come out almost dry, and can be immediately placed in the dryer.

Z. Y. If you rinse the greens with a bunch, under running water, then there is a guarantee that a lot of things will remain among the branches of greens in memory of living creatures and not only.

[Olga **]

Olga **, Admin, girls, thanks, I understood everything

And tell me, I am making a closet on a closed loggia in full height and width and I plan to use the top of the shelf for jars with seaming: tomatoes, cucumbers, jam, compotes, etc. Do the jars burst from frost? To what low temperature can workpieces be stored? Or there are those that are undesirable. In principle, on average, the temperature should be around zero, but I do not exclude that it can drop to -10.

[Igor]

Igor, we have the same T in winter, so I will answer. I also have preservation on an unheated glazed loggia. I keep jars there only until -3, they do not freeze, because the jars are not water, but brine. I do not risk leaving it below, I bring it into the room. As T rises to 0 again, I take it out again. No other way.

[Palych]

Palych, I have exactly such a closet on the loggia, for the entire height and width.
Regarding the temperature, it only depends on how severe the winter is. If it's average, then I don't put banks in the apartment,
I can, if I'm anxious, cover the shelf with an old blanket. And if the winter is harsh, more than 25-30 at night, then you still have to clean up. OR it is necessary to additionally insulate these shelves somehow.
By the way, at the same time I will say from my experience.
It is not very convenient to use the upper shelves, since it is poorly visible and it is also inconvenient to throw each empty jar back, and it makes sense to put empty ones there (as it is empty).
As a result, these two middle shelves are very convenient for us to rotate between the two.

We have warm winters, and I sheathed the wall from the street with polystyrene, met. a plastic window over the entire area of ​​two glass, I think it will not go below zero, and that is probably dangerous below, on the floor. No one will rearrange all the banks, this is the point of the question. More potatoes, onions in boxes almost on the floor, on trees. pallet, if the strongest frost is planned at 12-15 degrees, then we can drag it into the room until morning. Or the doors are checked, the stoker is normal and on the balcony is almost like in an apartment.
Maybe some products are not desirable, let's leave them under the bed, for example, the compote closes almost not sweet, water in fact, and in tomatoes both acid and salt will withstand lower temperatures in theory, right? What cannot be frozen?

Virgo, I don't know where to ask ...
What do you think, is it possible to roll meat stew not into cans, but to seal in vacuum bags?
Difficulties arose with sending canned blanks to the student - I send them with a blakar, but anything can happen there ...

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, I would not pack the stew in vacuum bags. If only not for a long time. And if you store it in the freezer, then at least in what ...

[Lanna]

Lanna, I wouldn't, it's risky. I would think in the direction of more reliable packaging of cans, some kind of foam plastic, penofol.

Thank you, virgins! So, only dried minced meat in packages ...
Although the student has a long term, and even in a civil marriage such as a family person already) I think it will not stale)))
Bulky packaging does not roll - very expensive shipping comes out ... (

Thank you, virgins! So, only dried minced meat in packages ...
Although the student has a long term, and even in a civil marriage such as a family person already) I think it will not stale)))
Bulky packaging does not roll - very expensive shipping comes out ... (

And what are you sending? Maybe try to send something differently, suddenly it will be cheaper. About dried minced meat is interesting. How to store, in what and for how long?

what are you sending? Can try to send something differently.
How to store, in what and for how long?

We send by the blacar on the way. If TK - about the same comes out. It's not just about money, but the fact that glass jars sometimes break. In the hol-ke does not store for long)

This is not the first time I have met with such an effect, I just do not understand the reason.
Here are two batches of canned cucumbers - two left-hand cans and two right-hand ones, rolled with the same recipe at different times this year.


The only difference is in the cucumbers. Left banks are bought bazaar cucumbers. Right jars of neighbor's cucumbers from the greenhouse, collected for 2-3 days and stored in the refrigerator.
I soak all cucumbers for at least 2 hours before rolling. The canning process is the same, triple pouring. I stuff cucumbers into jars tightly. Everything tastes the same, although the cucumbers come out slightly soft, but still moderately elastic and crispy.
Why did the right cucumbers in the jar shrink and float?
I observed exactly the same effect before from my freshly picked cucumbers, which I would pick and immediately roll up.
Last year, the neighbors' cucumbers behaved decently in banks, did not pretend to be floats and lay tightly and quietly in the banks. She plants the same variety and collects the seeds herself.
Can someone explain this effect?

[Sveta]

Sveta, it seems to me that the market cucumbers were already stale and with voids, that's why they surfaced.

[Sveta]

Sveta, it seems to me that the market cucumbers were already stale and with voids, that's why they surfaced.

Here the neighbors have surfaced! Elya, read it carefully. I ate both those and those cucumbers, that is, I saw inside - all without voids, wonderful cucumbers.

[Sveta]

Sveta, well, completely confused. At first it is written that the right neighbors. And then

Why did the left cucumbers in the jar shrink and float?

There are no other assumptions.

[Elya]

Elya, forgive me for confusing, I didn’t on purpose. It is the bazaar ones that lie like pebbles and do not move, and the neighbors swim, like in an aquarium)))
It's a mystery to me.