Lerele
dopleta, and what kind of Bosch are we talking about?
Robin bobin
Girls, well, you are a pro.
Thanks to everyone who dissuaded me from the rotary manual Moulinex, it was reasonable). But I really got lost, and now I have it
I think I was lucky with this grater. First, the quality is the same. old. Made in France is written on the grater and on the box and not a word in Russian.
The most important thing that I was afraid of was that I would not cope with it, that too much effort was needed. No and no). She rubs the carrots normally. And the carrot does not give off any juice at all. Even a little offensive, completely dry and even).
Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)
Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)




Now about the disadvantages. Firstly, 3 millimeters of carrots still remain rubbed. Secondly, some small notches appeared on the blades in just a couple of uses. But I saw more notches on my father's grater, they did not seem to affect the quality and speed of rubbing.
And even the smallest grater about nothing. Probably for pureing something cooked. She did not take the apple. The other 4 will definitely be used.
I really don't like ordinary hand graters, so I'm very happy with this one). Well, I don't lose hope to repair my Bosch. Although in many ways this new Bosch will replace me).
dopleta
Quote: Lerele

dopleta, and what kind of Bosch are we talking about?
About Bosch Profi Cube.
Lerele
dopleta, I did not know this, I have a Siemens similar without cubes, but I am too lazy to get it, I rarely use it.
fffuntic
dopleta, Larissa.

Bosch speed is enough for me, I agree to stop at it.
I do not have enough types of cutting in Bosch, that is, other disks that do not exist in nature now,
Korean long carrots, small cubes (I would like the onions to be sliced)))) in one motion), slices of different sizes.
The quality of slicing at the Bosch is excellent, although for juicy vegetables it does not reach Berner. So the question is: what about the bullet?
if the bullet also gives a slegonts juice, then my Wishlist will immediately drop sharply.

The dimensions of the bullet are wonderful, but if the combine is on the table, and I have a small Bosch, the size is the same for me, then this is also a pleasant parameter, but not determining.


In general, as also the owner of a bosch, I am interested in the quality of slicing the bullet not from carrots, but from juicy, for example, cucumbers. How juicy he rubs, for example, boiled beets and does he crush boiled potatoes? is there a convenient onion grater? Onions are my headache. I love to shred it on an alligator, but I dream of a sharp little electrician, so that like an alligator I could cut it juicy and not crush it. I suppose this requires a sharp fried grater, that is, tiny cubes.

Now, if just like Berner, then you can immediately start seriously dreaming
If there are only other grains, then you can already dream, but not so fanatically))))
If a person doesn't have anything, then a bulet with its bunch of cuts is very attractive, instead of a bunch of our devices, I would take a bulet, but for the owner of the Bosch, and some have spiralizers, we replace the bullet if he doesn't cut it now, just like a berner boiled and juicy fruits and vegetables.





Robin bobin, Lena, Moulinex hand graters are lovely, there is also a closed hand Moulinex, immediately rubs into the flask, also wonderful.
Girls - do not laugh, well, I went through a bunch of vegetable cutters in search of the cherished ideal, I was looking for a truncated as smart as a berner, but in order not to cut myself.

I have one, as you bought, somewhere lying on the closet))), I washed it with hot water, and rubbed stone beets - nothing happened to her, it is still spicy.
But here it was about something else.Firstly, the notorious Berner gives a kick-ass cutting that keeps juicy and cooked vegetables juicy. Mulinexes are very good, but the burner is still cooler if it is just harmful to be and poke around.
Secondly, an electrician is completely different.
The electrician's graters are different than in the manual version, including in sharpness. However, the comfort of use is far from manual labor. Burn-burn and you're done, especially, of course, this is learned when you need a lot on solid vegetables.


Svetlenki
Quote: fffuntic
I am interested in the quality of slicing the bullet not in carrots, but in juicy, for example, cucumbers.

fffuntic, Lena, found a good adequate review. Sorry, in English. But the man shows slicing the onion in half rings and also slicing the onion more finely. And, in principle, even without the tongue, it is clear that the cutting itself suited him, but the large part of the finely chopped onion scattered all over the bowl did not.

Then he cuts the tomatoes. Then for some reason a chicken, and at the very end he makes rice from cauliflower. The whole table is strewn with it ...

In general, there are disadvantages, but the blades are sharp - this cannot be taken away.



Gyyy, and at the very end he compares the speed of zucchini spiralization. Also an interesting result.
fffuntic
Svetochka, not ah .. I do not want someone else's review. I want our girls to take apart the bones. Our girls have a lot of experience and have something to compare with. They understand perfectly what I asked above.
Bosch is also sharp and fast.




The onion looks so-so and it is clear that the juice is full. I want a cube. Like an alligator does either a knife or a burner. For the sake of just such a slicing of onions, I will not lose my head, but I do not see a suitable disk in the bulet for such cases. And on a regular grater you can't really run away.
leostrog
Bosch Profi Cube. now you will find figs on sale. I also got an eye on him - very beautiful and small cubes are obtained there. I wonder if you can cut such cubes from raw beets there? And I look at Bullet in doubts - I am not yet convinced that this is such a good vegetable cutter.
Yes, than chopping onions is a headache.
I have my old Kenwood vegetable cutter "barked",. this is how I got used to cutting with the help of the large hole attachment for the Braun Multiquicks. I cut the onion into halves to push it into the hole. The onion hardly crumples and produces almost no juice. it turns out something like small crusty sticks. It is quite acceptable for sautéing. although I cannot say that the cutting is perfect. But, since it is very difficult for me to cut with my hands, I have to use this option. especially when you have to chop 3-4 large onions.

Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)


So now I am also looking for some kind of multifunctional vegetable cutter for onions. and carrots and cabbage were cut conventionally, but not by hand.
Sometimes. when the correct cutting with "matches" is needed very much. I take out my "mandolin" from Zyliss - it cuts very nicely and evenly, but I rarely do it.

Robin bobin
Quote: fffuntic
Girls - do not laugh, well, I went through a bunch of vegetable cutters in search of the cherished ideal, I was looking for a truncated as smart as a berner, but in order not to cut myself.
I'm not laughing, I'm the same). I'm also afraid of Berner, I really don't have one).

leostrog
I have just spoken with a representative of the household electrics department with us. He said. that this very Bosch Cubix has now been replaced by another model - Bosch 6 MCM68885 and it has exactly cutting into cubes.
Ilmirushka
Quote: leostrog
Bosch 6 MCM68885 and it has exactly dicing.
leostrog, I have a BOSH MUM 5 (I don’t remember all the numbers), except for its complete set, it also came with a cube cutter.
dopleta
Quote: fffuntic
Bosch I do not have enough types of slicing, that is, other disks that do not exist in nature now,
Korean long carrots, small cubes (I would like the onions to be planed)))) in one motion), slices of different sizes.
The Bosch slicing quality is excellent, although for juicy vegetables it does not reach the Berner. So the question is: how is the bullet doing?
Well, you didn't convince me of the need for Bullet, or rather, convinced me of the absence of this need: I have absolutely all discs that exist in Boch (well, except for the Korean carrot, but it is not in Bullet either, and I have spiralizers without there are several of it), and Berner makes the smallest cubes from onions for me, so thanks!
leostrog
Can you see the exact model number? And how big are the cubes?
dopleta
This is who the question is, leostrog? If you are talking about Bosch, then there is a universal cube attachment, it is sold separately and fits many models.
fffuntic
leostrog, Bosch has a bunch of models.

There is MCM68885 - these are large bowls with knives, a combine, closer to the blender. The cube cutter there is so normally compact, I like it more than the mum's.

There is a mum 5 series, there is a separate universal cube cutter for any 5, also a large harvester, but already a bowl with beaters, kneaders. The cube cutter for me is also quite large in size, you will have to rinse a lot of things. The cube cutter itself is large. Mum's vegetable cutter without a cube cutter has a smaller compact size.
Therefore, if we talk about convenience, that is, it is possible to buy a cube cutter with a compact vegetable cutter + a separate bandura cutter (this is an option for mum, where you need to buy a cube cutter), or a large cube cutter combined with a vegetable cutter - this option, for example, from MUM 54251, that is, in models , where there are cubes already in the package. Here's a little subtlety.

There are MSM881X1, MSM881X2, MSM671X0, MSM671X1 -small blenders with cubes, a 2-liter bowl, well, shaped like all blenders with cubes, which are cheaper.
I have already written a lot here about Malipuska. Malipusenky, cuts perfectly, like big brothers, the same steel on graters. However, there are fewer leagues than those of great relatives - which may be of fundamental importance.
When working on a button, you have to press - I personally like it.
there is big minus in the device of the gear cover and the assembly also requires a couple of movements, well, like all these blenders)))

The cubes are all large. For combines and blenders they differ slightly in size.
for a blender, bars 13x13x9 and 9 x 9 x 9 mm - the grids are common for all combines.
for combines, bars 13 x 13 x 8 mm and 8 x 8 x 8 mm - the grates are common for all blenders.
In general, if you look for a vegetable cutter and not get hung up on cubes, then bullet is an excellent choice, as far as I understand. Then comes the Bosch harvesters, where the vegetable cutter is also very good, the knives are sharp. The vegetable cutter without a cube cutter is compact and convenient.
The small Bosch blender lags behind because of the lid arrangement and the smaller set of knives. A small blender-bosch, I just can't even recommend it as a vegetable cutter, you will normally wash the figs because of the lid with gaps.

If you get hung up on cubes, then you should think carefully about which model is better to buy and consider all types of cube cutters for the best sizes for yourself.

Well, how often do you need such cubes under a centimeter in size? Maybe it's better to buy a cheap blender with a cube just for such a cube? and choose a chic vegetable cutter if there is nothing?
It's just that I won't recommend Malipuska at the same Bosch as the best vegetable cutter, the lid spoils the impression by 90 percent to me. Killing them is not enough. They made such a charm and so ruined it. If it were not for the lid, there would be a lapotsechka. I love him even with flaws, but I can't call him an ideal.
The combines are doing very well, but you have to keep it on the table and wash the device for a small plate of cubes - sucks. Moreover, in mummies, a vegetable cutter is just not an example more compact than a cutter combined with a cutter in size. It is better to take MSM with a cube cutter - there the cube cutter does not change the dimensions of the unit at all.

In general, there is no need to rush. Everything must be examined properly.

leostrog
ffuntic... Thank you for such a wonderful and comprehensive review.
I will not rush. What attracted me to this Bosch series 6 - that he is a vegetable cutter and a cube cutter in one device. And if the cubes there are 8 * 8 * 8, then it sounds good. And there are a lot of disks for cutting vegetables. And the motor is powerful.
True. the seller in that store. where I called. said. that both combines (68885 and 64080 series). made with electronics. and this is already depressing. When I fixed the stove, I paid a quarter of its cost. when I had to change the electronic board.
fffuntic
leostrog, I can't say anything about electronics, but it looks cool. If you are smart and put additional bags and smaller plates into the bowl, then you can plan not into the bowl if you need a small amount. But such a bandura should be on the table all the time, you can't wear it.
There is still a minus - he does not roll for a pastry chef. Not a dough mixer)))))

By the way, we don't remember professional Kenwood with all the pribluds here. If we talk about a large unit, then the range on the disks is also steep and there are cubes. If nothing has been bought yet, then today you can choose a good one.
Kenwood is also very much praised, and it is still not clear what is cheaper if you buy all the pribluda by the bosh.

dopleta
Quote: fffuntic
Not a dough mixer)))))
And Bullet.
OgneLo
to MUM and "A set of nozzles for grinding 3-in-1" (for MUMX, MUM5, MUM4, article MUZ45XCG1), you can buy bullet type.
fffuntic
So this, I am writing, but how to use it is planned?

Here I have a mum5 with a cube cutter, even on the table))) constantly. But still, I don't use its cutting capabilities every day. In scrap to wash a cube cutter - a separate large vegetable cutter.
Previously, there was a 4th mum with a compact vegetable cutter, I used it there more often - there you can immediately put it into plates with convenience and wash it simply, but now my 5th is exclusively a dough mixer. I even considered the purchase of a separate vegetable cutter as in a standard set of mum (although 5-ok have one more trap - cutting only into a bowl, if you don't use a trick, but this can be solved), but I was presented with a small Boshik)))
For every day I need such a compact and so that it is easy to rinse and dry directly. For every day I tried a bunch of little ones and stopped at Boshik-Malipuska (I like cutting most of all), bought a couple of discs there and I'm happy. And if there were no boshik-malipuski, then I would lick my lips at the boulet with terrible force. Honestly, if a boshik malipuska or a bullet, then definitely a bullet. Cuts perfectly and there is no bad gear. But I have already bought a Boshik.
Now bosik-malipuska, alligator, giant for cabbage - my gentleman's set for every day.
Now I'm sorting through my memory, and what was the easiest thing to care for? and oddly enough, it is an electric mulinex grater. It is generally easier to collect and wash there. If I still planed like a Boshik .. there would be no price. I can't scold her, I can't. For every day, if a family of two or three people, and not really find fault with juiciness - a very convenient thing. After that, it seems like a lot of work on assembly and washing in all other units.
Boulet is already like my blender. And the lid is there, and the cup ...



OgneLo, Marina.
Well, if you really dig straight,

then all these cutting attachments are installed on top of the mum. There it turns out the nozzle sits in a nest from which moisture can enter the combine. This is not the best technical implementation. Liquid should not be allowed to flow into this nest, therefore, for example, I would not process juicy berries and I would not put a wet nozzle on the side of the nest either. Here at Kitchen with Kenwood it allows you to simply lengthen the nose, but at Bosch it is impossible. They thought it badly.
But the nozzle solves the problem that I indicated above: ease of assembly and operation, except that height the unit grows. Well, here I am cooking: I put it on, crumbled the potatoes in a bowl, took it off - washed it, put it back in the nest on top and wiped the seat from moisture. And so on for each action.
At the bullet, the nozzle is more convenient to pull back and forth, I think.
A standard compact mum vegetable cutter is more convenient in this regard. It is lower in height and there is no need to wash it like that. If the combine is on the table, it is convenient to use. I used the 4th often, often)))) with comfort. And now for every day I would choose a small standard muma vegetable cutter.

But LAN .. here they are very similar, if not quibble. The small nozzle at the top of the Bosch is very inferior only to the fact that it is dangerous to crumble juicy berries there and the cubes still need to be made in a large cube cutter. Well, the Bosch chopper knife in the attachment looks simpler than the Bullet one, but here you need to compare the chopping, but there is no such information.
But in terms of the number of disks, the Bosch set is also quite good.
True, the standard set is small, you need to buy separate disks at will.
In fact, the moom has two slices for slices. Thin and thick. Truncated .. in any set these two types. If you want thicker or thinner - break off. I miss slices thicker and thinner
In terms of the grater, it's already easier.There is a large, medium and small and very small cheese grater (there is no cheese grater for malipuski) if someone loves fine, very fine.
There is a disc of julienne and fries (there are no such ones for a malipuska),
There is a disc for potato pancakes - such a prickly grater.



In short, you can, of course, only bosh and limit yourself. The replacement is very worthy if you are ready to keep a large unit on the table and do not be lazy to change the attachments.






Larissa, Doblet, I have a question. Have you tried chopping onions on julienne? I never bought it, I do everything on an average grater. Now the thought arose that perhaps the bow on julienne would turn out well.
OgneLo
Quote: fffuntic
Well, if you really dig straight
so I have a "every day" Philips HR7605, with top engine location (for the same reasons as yours) and cubes in HR1669. Before the cube cutter, I ran the onion twice through the "fries", or, first the slices, then the "fries". And to cut a lot, the HR1388 multi-cutter (the same cut as in the HR7605, only in a dummy container) - in it the ejector is better than in the Boshev shredder (harder plastic) and the whole structure is more compact. But at Boshik you can choose the speed and Boshik knows how to grind (the flexi attachment needs to be bought separately, more often, it goes "on order") + meat grinder. Boshik, now, first of all - kneading, with a hook for dough, minced meat, fillings, well, some salads can be mixed quickly.
Accordingly, for me, bullets and others like them are not relevant.
I have a working surface width of 100 cm, 60 of which, now, is occupied by a desktop dishwasher (MUM4 and other devices used to live there). There is nowhere else to turn around.
fffuntic
Marina, Philips HR7605 and HR1388 have tried. Like all filipki, the large amount of leftovers is a little unnerving. Moreover, they do not change this gap in the latest combines. In figs all our complaints.
Some filipki have a fascinating disc with a choice of slice thickness. This is lovely, I would very much like this in bosha. I tried to shove it into the HR7605, but it does not roll in height, although it sits normally on the pulley ((((.
With Philips HR7605, you can generally get perverted, not only native discs-inserts are suitable there, but also metal entirely from many other combines.
But I didn’t like the experience at all with boiled and juicy vegetables at the filipki, especially boiled beets directly pushed me

Now the thought came to my mind: after all, the principle is the same everywhere, only the metal and sharpness are different. Can we sharpen our discs? I wonder who the thread did this and how to bring it to life?

I haven’t tried the HR1669 blender, it’s like a Boshevsky malipuska in structure, but Tanya-Admin wrote that it’s easier to assemble. Why is a blender just for cubes? why not as a vegetable cutter? Why are HR7605 and HR1388 still relevant with such a blender? What about cutting soft vegetables, and there is also a reducer like a Bosch? can I wash?

Can you tell us more about the bow on 1388?

Flexy bought, but was not impressed, I want a regular K-nozzle like the Kenwood-Kitchens with a normal gap at the sides of the bowl. The lack of a proper cream whisk is brutal enough often.

dopleta
Quote: fffuntic
Have you tried chopping onions on julienne?
Yes, Lena, I tried it, it cuts well.
OgneLo
Quote: fffuntic
Like all filipki, the large amount of leftovers is a little unnerving. Moreover, they do not change this gap in the latest combines.
I don't have such a problem. I finish everything without waste. It is necessary to start with softer products and end with harder ones + try to serve products at the same time over the entire width of the loading opening, preferably vertically. The same pieces of sweet pepper or celery stalks perfectly serve as a "support" for tender tops of dill, parsley, cilantro. And the pusher should not push the product against the grinding disc, but only direct it, preventing the product from popping out back. If necessary, it is better to pre-cool or freeze soft foods. The very remainder can be very, very carefully "pushed" with the back of a spoon or fork (it is dangerous - if the spoon / fork gets under the knife, you can get injured or break the device).
Quote: fffuntic
In figs all our complaints.
Phillips has a generally disgusting service, for the same 1669 it is almost impossible to order anything, neither from accessories, nor from spare parts, even "on order".
One fact of the separate sale of a set of additional inserts HR7968 / 90 in a specific cube cutter HR1669 at a very horse price is worth it! Although they only have a place with a cube cutter.
We all understand perfectly well that "three plastic frames with metal grids and two plastic ejectors, even complete with one plastic holder for ejectors" cannot cost half the cost of the entire set of this blender, or even a third of its cost. About the subsequent, after the first, batch of blenders, which were completed with a measuring glass without cover! There is nothing even to say. By the way, the boxes in which the blenders were packed at the factory, too, in subsequent batches decreased in size (or, on the contrary, increased?), The latter (compared to the first) - very significantly! I know, because in total, three of these blenders passed through my hands.
Quote: fffuntic
With the Philips HR7605, you can generally get perverted, not only native discs-inserts are suitable there, but also metal entirely from many other combines
yes, and this is also a huge plus. The functionality is easily expanded to the desired one.
Quote: fffuntic
Why is a blender just for cubes?
I bought it only for cubes and his leg was comfortable
Quote: fffuntic
why not as a vegetable cutter?
because, as I wrote earlier
Quote: OgneLo
due to the fact that in HR1669 the grater is not put on the stock, as it was in HR1659, but on a cube-cutting base that has only a small rectangular hatch for pouring the shredded or rubbed product into the bowl, some of what is under the disc and does not have time to fall into the hatch , accumulates between the disc and the cube base. But the shredder shreds quite thinly.
+ there is only one double-sided disc (grater / shredder). My MUM4 had more of them initially.
Quote: fffuntic
Why are HR7605 and HR1388 still relevant with such a blender?
- the convenience of HR7605 and HR1388 (nothing gets stuck) and a range of shredder-grating attachments
- the volume of the bowl of the HR7605 is significantly larger than that of the HR1669, and I did not have time to buy an additional large grinder (it has a 1 liter bowl)
Quote: fffuntic
Can you tell us more about the bow on 1388?
this can be done on any shredder:
first we shred the "fries", then we pass these "bars" through the shredder a second time, trying to make them "lay across" ...
Or, first we shred with "rings", then from the "rings" we get "fries" ...
Similarly, if the cube cutter cuts coarsely, but there is no finer grate: pass the product through the cube cutter twice. Or, at first we chop with "circles", which we then pass through the cube cutter ...
Write longer.
leostrog
ffuntic... thanks again! such information is invaluable. because it accumulates in the course of use. This is not like a beautiful and clever video, where only advantages are visible and flaws are not visible.
I need a good and powerful vegetable cutter instead of the deceased, so that I can cut apples, onions, cabbage (thinly, for stewing and cooking), beets. pumpkin. - "matches", small julienne. large And I cut once a week. to cook food for the whole week. If there is still an option to grind the meat like a paste, it's generally great (I have "Moulinette 1-2-3". For 1000 W. but I'm not very happy with it - the plastic there is a rare junk, worn out very quickly. And rinse it thoroughly almost impossible).
I had a large Philips harvester (I don't remember the name of the model now), but it turned out to be extremely fragile. As the master said, his motor is designed only for short-term loads. although 1000 W, but three times had to be worn for repairs (something with electrical circuits). I repaired it in the last. once and gave it to a neighbor.
Convenient cubes would also be great - dicing raw vegetables or a vinaigrette.
There is a station. Kenwood dough mixer with "cubes" attachment. but I absolutely do not like this nozzle - the cubes are large (1 cm edge). vegetables for vinaigrette. if boiled. they just slaughter it and become porridge.The idea is to first cut vegetables for a vinaigrette. and then I don't like cooking. To cut a pumpkin into cubes, it must be carefully removed from the fibers around the seed chamber - also an inconvenience.
My handmade Alligator cuts small and neat cubes for a vinaigrette (just the same aesthetic pleasure - such a vinaigrette) - but is there something. what can give the same cutting?
That is. I am looking for something that is convenient to assemble / disassemble,. easy to clean. gives a neat and fine cut.
The main vegetables are raw cabbage, pumpkin. apples, kohlrabi. onion . carrot. stalked celery. There is a place on the table for him. For "macaroni" from vegetables there is a separate spiralizer (I use it no more often than once a month).
For now . as a temporary measure. I use Braun Multiquick for slicing and grinding - it is good for everyone, but there is a major drawback - one hand is constantly busy with the button.
UPD: now I looked at the specification - the size of the cubes for Bosch series 6 - 09 * 0.9 and 1.3 * 1.3 - are very large. some silo.
That is, the winner has not yet been found, alas.
OgneLo
Quote: leostrog
it's very big
from now available:
Quote: Pupstt
redmond with cubes 8on8
from what came before:
Quote: Lera-7
Quote: fabiani
Who has a set of removable grilles for Philips HR1669, if not difficult, please measure the size of the cubes on both grills and triangles!
One lattice is 0.75x0.75 (cm), the second is 1.5x1.5 (cm), the third is an equilateral triangle with a side of 1.4cm.
measurements by another author
Quote: julifera
In 1669 - the grilles can be removed!
... set HR7968 / 90 of 3 grilles with pusher
This set includes grilles:
- cubes 8x8
- cubes 15x15
- triangles
fffuntic
leostrog,


If you like Braun Multiquick slicing, then you will really like the Bosch polish. At the same time, you can take into account the fact that if you choose a brown combine, you will have a hundred pounds of polish you like. Brownies do not have cubes, but all cubes are electric, alas. An alligator or a berner rules here. No options. At the same time, Malipuski-blenders immediately disappear: they are weaker and everyone requires you to hold a button.
But with meat it is already more difficult. Meat strikes meat and pate - the load can be huge. It makes sense to talk about professional technology, which is a completely different price category. An application for high quality meat pate is a serious application. For such purposes, robocops are kept in restaurants. Therefore, if we consider a home harvester and processing in a normal amount, then as I understand it, you first need to drive it through a meat grinder. Otherwise, I'm afraid meat can become such a very powerful test.
For the same MCM68885, a knife with notches is steeper than usual. I had a domestic harvester Energia with a similar knife - it cut like a beast with high quality. But again, I didn’t put in a lot of very problematic ingredients.
And so it seems to me that all home harvesters such as Bosch, Phillips, Brown and so on, plus or minus, are designed for the same operation and not quite in the tail and in the mane on complex meat.
Phillips are normal workhorses, if yours could not stand it and was of normal quality, then I'm not sure that the rest will be any different. Then it is precisely necessary to facilitate their task with the help of a meat grinder and a smaller bookmark. Ce la vie.
But I wonder, are bullets and ninjas cool in terms of chopping? the higher the processing speed, the higher the load it can withstand. If the speed of rubbing of these units is higher, then you should take them for the pate. And as a vegetable cutter they are good.
For the listed tasks, just bullets seem to me more suitable than even Boshik.
Cons: The amount of processing is small at a time and there are no cubes. But it is possible that the power is just better than a conventional home combine.

We must ask our girls to make a pate and then tell and show. Ask their opinion on this feature.
Why doesn't Kenwood make pate? Kenwood is considered a strong combine, stronger than brown boshes? Why is there no desire to use Kenwood as a vegetable cutter, there are a lot of disks in the same place?

leostrog
Yes, I did. Here. now it won't cost much to buy an HR 1669 with shipping.

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And this will be my third blender with accessories. (This is with 2 of the previous ones from Braun)
ffuntic... I had the idea to buy an attachment with all the disks for my Kenwood, but it was me who was "lucky" - I got a "bad card from the deck", that is, a very poor quality device (it has been repaired three times in 5 years and everything is different details). Therefore, I want a separate unit, reliable, for cutting vegetables. for large quantities.
fffuntic
leostrog, on fig HR 1669? for cubes larger than what you need? there were pictures on the forum. All these Boshiki-Filipki-Vitek-Redmond and so on ... almost like brothers. The cubes are large, this is not an alligator. Alas.
For the sake of such cubes, you can take the cheaper, the better))) do not go much further than Kenwood. Today, you can well solve the issue of a vegetable cutter, you can somehow decide for a pate. With cubes - it's dull and there is no point in overpaying.
Robin bobin
Girls, I somehow missed, what is this Bullet? Bullet express, which is in the TV shop?
if he is, by the way, there is a 2-fold discount.
fffuntic
leostrog, if our Boshik sunk into the soul, look at Avito cheaper. There are older models and inexpensive, completely unused. Or at a similar flea market. Buy it cheaper and try it. Bosch has everything the same: discs, knives. The design changes there, but the basis is not, except for the knife with notches at MSM 85))))
This is generally the case with most brands.

And now I would ask our bullet owners harder about their impressions on all issues. Perhaps all the same it would be the most correct decision. Fig, these cubes, if everything else is the best.
OgneLo
Quote: leostrog
buy now HR 1669
will not work - they are no longer available for a long time, including in Eldorado ... + you need it additionally:
small cubes (purchased separately) + ejector for them (also bought separately) - these, for now, can be found ... But they are relevant only for owners of the old man HR1669 ...
All that remains is the redmond and tame alligators ...
i.e.
Quote: leostrog
third blender with accessories
especially at this price, it is hardly advisable ...
fffuntic
Redmond is not a technique that can be heavily exploited. Consider for all occasions. She is gentle.




The ninja boulettes sit on a different topic.
here are the dimensions
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=379268.0
here are the disks
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=379268.3260
list
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=379268.0
Here is the minced ninzi, the bulette has not reported yet
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=379268.0
ninzi review. Ninja and boulet are nearby.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=379268.0
here are ninjas and bulettes on sale
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=379268.0
marusacharli
I fell for the girls' reports about the bullet and bought it. For me, one drawback of this device. After that I had to get rid of all the cutters that I had) I left only the Philips HR1689 for dicing and bullets. said goodbye to everything else)))))))
fffuntic
marusacharli, about the function of the vegetable cutter, we have already understood that it is a continuous delight. But what about minced meat? is it stronger than a combine? What quality minced meat is obtained, chops bad meat?

and boiled vegetables are also cut perfectly?
marusacharli
I haven't figured it out yet. I have not received all the attachments yet. but the bullet does not seem to chop minced meat) For minced meat this is a ninja. like so. bullet is a cutter and spiralizer. I haven't cut the boiled ones yet. Raw with a bang
fffuntic
oh .. this is how a bullet turns out - an ideal vegetable cutter + spirolizer, but there is no blender-chopper in it. And the ninja has chopping, but is the function of the vegetable cutter less varied than that of the bullet?
So the perfect bullet is missing a Ninzi chopper? Again, do not have an all-in-one device?
(I believed that in the bullet they also put a knife in a large bowl - but I was mistaken ((((()
marusacharli
No. there is a chopper blender attachment. but the volume is small. it is sold separately like all discs. The price for them has now dropped. but made only sauce in a blender so far. liked!




As a vegetable cutter, a bullet is better than a ninja.
leostrog
All the delights are wonderful, but I would like opinions of at least a year ago - how the device behaves over time.

So I read a review on an English-language resource - that VeggieBullet is very difficult to clean from product residues and that sometimes you need to use a toothpick ..
On Amazon, one uncle added a photo of such a place, which is almost impossible to wash.
🔗

marusacharli
We will tell you in a year !!!




Quote: fffuntic

marusacharli, about the function of the vegetable cutter, we have already understood that it is a continuous delight. But what about minced meat? is it stronger than a combine? What quality minced meat is obtained, chops bad meat?

and boiled vegetables are also cut perfectly?
There are no boiled vegetables yet)) Rubbed cheese (not hard) Bullet did great.
Katerok87
Girls, tell me please! I want to buy Tns3000, Gigant and Alligator luxe. But I doubt that all three vegetable cutters are needed
Csscandle
I have a TNS and an alligator, I use both.
fffuntic
Katerok87,


all three serve different functions.
alligator - these are solid cubes, in a set 3 sizes 3mm, 6 mm, 12 mm, 4th 9mm - only in the metal version and either buy extra or look for a complete set.
Decide what exactly you need among the cubes.
The alligator cannot be replaced with anything, except for a grater - a berner, but the principle of obtaining is different there, you need to take care of your hands, and in an alligator everything is safe, only when washing you should not touch the bars.

In fact, if you are not afraid of sharp objects, then alligator + berner = a gentleman's combat kit for all occasions Cubes + basic cutting shapes of all kinds.

Then comes the Giant. The only unique feature of which is a serrated grater for grating cabbage onto salad. Convenient and the cabbage is so lacy, thin. BUT the benefits end there. To adapt, you can use the rest of the graters, but for convenience it's garbage. Berner is a hundred times cooler and more comfortable. They are the same in sharpness and danger when used.
I have a giant, I use it for cabbage salad. The toad gnawed for a long, long time to take a cabbage cutter for such a sum, but I have this salad a very frequent guest.
The giant won't recommend it to everyone if you want to save some money.
Thin slices can be obtained on other units, the same Berner. It's just that the serrated grater gives the cabbage a little bit of flavor if you are a gourmet gourmet. Among mine, not all the differences between a grater and just a knife do not feel

Tns3000 provides slices - this is its main feature, other functions are weaker. Allows you to adjust their thickness. From the same series there is Status, which is spicy and is also liked by many.
These are sharp graters, dangerous. How much of their function you need to decide for yourself.

Crown
Quote: Katerok87

Girls, tell me please! I want to buy Tns3000, Gigant and Alligator luxe. But I doubt that all three vegetable cutters are needed
Now they will shower me with slippers again. :-) I staked on minimalism with versatility, that's why I chose TNS-ku from all graters and other grinders. She shreds me with straws, cubes, slices of any thickness, maybe a little into cubes and even spaghetti.
Compact, convenient, takes up little space, always ready to work, easy to clean. I have adapted well to it and am terribly pleased with it.
fffuntic
Galinawhy sneakers? we each have our own preferences and needs.

I chose an alligator for every day, if only because when I was no one - either sleepy or tired, shredded potatoes-carrots for soup, I would have cut myself on spicy burners. I choose either an electrician or mechanics - an alligator for potatoes, onions and a dull domestic grater for carrots.

I gave up the slices a hundred years ago, only for a salad of radish-cucumbers, but I tune it up somehow on the electrician (although it's much more accurate on graters), or again the alligator drives here. I often make whole alligator salads.
Even zucchini is an alligator, although they are tastier on spirolizers, but an alligator is more convenient for me to work with.

If the workpieces are an electrician. Although my electrician is a little inferior to hand rub.

I live quietly without any sharp burners-tns-ok. The only thing I have left is a giant for cabbage, which rolls due to the preferences of my family.

Each of us should think about what she needs every day most often. Is there a fear of sharp graters? If a girl is inattentive in the kitchen, then NSKi-Berners will no longer become more attractive than an alligator))))

For me an alligator and an electrician, when you have to rub a lot = the most necessary.And for someone on the Berner it is most convenient. There is no single solution, we are all individual

dopleta
Quote: fffuntic
The only unique feature of which is a serrated grater for grating cabbage onto salad. Convenient and the cabbage is so lacy, thin. BUT the benefits end there. To adapt, you can use the rest of the graters, but for convenience it's garbage. Berner is a hundred times cooler and more comfortable. They are the same in sharpness and danger when used.
Lena, about Berner, I absolutely agree (as well as the fact that all these graters, which I also have, are different), about the Giant - not absolutely. This is not its only advantage. The giant cuts simultaneously four thinnest slices at once, moreover, in both directions. Well, and I absolutely disagree, like many, with the praise of TNS. Most of those who have bought have either got rid of it, or it is lying around idle. Here are just the latest reviews:
Quote: Olga VB
Didn't make friends with her, sold her.
Quote: Belka13
My TNS is dumb
Crown
Quote: fffuntic
Galina, why slippers?
This is a question for fans saint's witness sect Bernera, they scold me when I praise the work of my grater.
fffuntic
Larissa, but with TNS as with Nicers, as I understood. Quality walks. Some are very lucky, some are not. Then the strength in the hands is different. My aunt didn't like the alligator at all, it's hard for her to crush. It's on an alligator !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! she hasn't tried my old nyser yet
Then someone rubs three carrots every day, and someone three kilograms

I look more at the root. What does a girl want in principle? Cubes, slices? Would she remember to wear gloves in her sleepy reverie in the morning?

For me, it's only an alligator that's an unusual unit. Berner, tns-ki = one grater. They differ sharply in the style of use. Personally, I like the Berner knives more, their location, the holder at the Berner. But that's personal preference.
They are very similar in functionality. The difference in management. Change attachments or twist a screw. Cleaning of accumulated vegetables. Washing after work.
I do not take into account the option that there is no luck and just a bad quality from TNS. Let's say both units are of high quality.
Let's say a Berner has an awesome quality of knives, but if you have money, then changing TNS-ku over time is not a problem if you like it more.
One screw against a whole stock of attachments is also an advantage in its own way.

I really don't know. This is too individual. I would advise you to go to your friends, try them, look at everything in the store. In the kitchen, everything is too individual in our preferences.
dopleta
Quote: fffuntic
unlucky and just get bad quality
A bit wrong, Lena. Do you have a tns? There, the "knives" that can be pulled out by the wheel are not knives at all, but just metal plates, without any sharpening at all! Absolutely! All the owners of both TNS and Berner write about this, since they have the opportunity to compare. And the slicer knife - yes, here it is really very sharp, no one argues with that.
fffuntic
I have the same cutting, but a little worse in design - Decok, where the slices are regulated as in TNS, and the choice of "cubes" is smaller, only two sizes, no small ones.
Also, the plates are retractable with a screw, but only the knife below the TNS is clogged more.
Despite its shortcomings, if necessary, I could work on it if the need arose. It is not straightforward to say that horror is horror. Cuts and effort is much less than when I rub carrots on my prehistoric domestic grater
Mine - yes - much dumber than Berner, but to understand, you have to have both. I, of course, like Berner better by quality slicing. Berner knives are ideal knives. And the slicer knife, too, does not impress me so much with my deco)))
Berner in my eyes no one surpasses. BUT

however, the advantage of the decock in terms of compactness and care is a very strong advantage. One grater with a screw, or a bunch of small graters from a burner, which must be removed and inserted, and then rinsed and dried.

Therefore, I understand Galina. She has one compact grater. And it is quite possible to cut on it. Although the knives of these pribluds are indisputably worse than those of Berner's.





I quote
about the Giant - not absolutely. This is not its only advantage. The giant cuts simultaneously four thinnest slices at once, moreover, in both directions.
TNS with Decok can give slices of any thickness, even tiny ones, they will slightly differ only on cabbage from the Giant. I like the jaggedness of the giant's radish knife even less than the smooth slice - again, personal opinion.
The more convenient it is to cut, but FIG knows It has its merits both there and there.
It turns out that the Gigant and THS-ka and similar slicers are almost "duplicated" in terms of thin slices.
To be honest, I'm generally a fan of the Status slicer. He even cuts tomatoes thinly, but there are no pull-out plates for "cubes", that is, the functionality is lower, but for me the quality slices of the Status are very juicy, my deco did not sit next to it)), there quality is like that of Berner.

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