albina1966
I only use vegetables for cleaning, I'm fine. I have not tried cabbage, there are other devices.
Vesta
Among the many knives for peeling vegetables, I have one, my son and my husband use only it, I use it for a cucumber and if you need a little cabbage (for a large amount of Berner). The cabbage turns out to be thin, small straws, rubbing on the side where the cloves are.
Lisichkalal
Girls, help.
I choose an alligator.
Steel model 3093 - 68.5 euros.
In addition to it, you can buy a 9 × 9 nozzle for 26 euros if at the same time If then separately, then 30 including delivery. Do I need
Plastic model 3080 - 46 euros.
Slicer 32 euros.
What to buy ?
I cut RAW vegetables into diced salads. Carrots, potatoes.
Will plastic handle it without problems? Or should we take metal?
There is a Burnet, I use it actively.
Masha Ivanova
Lisichkalal, Svetlana! Take a metal plus insert 9 by 9, do not even hesitate. It costs twice as much, but it also has twice as many inserts. In plastic 6 by 6 and 12 by 12, and in metal plus two more to these two - 3 by 3 and 9 by 9. I don’t know how anyone, but I am not at all satisfied with potatoes, carrots and beets on the 12 by 12 insert, this is only for the vinaigrette. But on the 9 by 9 insert, the bars are the most. Box 3 by 3 is less in demand, it mainly contains only garlic. But she also happens to be needed. And no more inserts are available for the plastic Alligator.
Slicer is a separate thing, it is needed anyway, but only after the Alligator, it is more important. On a slicer, cut into 5 by 5 mm slices, in extreme cases you can cut it yourself so that you can then get cubes with the help of the Alligator.
Lerele
Lisichkalal, I have plastic. But if there was an insert to it 9 * 9, it would be even better.
Carrots and potatoes are cut well and raw, but I have not tried raw beets.
I can't advise, but changing the top with a grille is very easy for me, I don't know how the inserts change in metal.
Somewhere here I showed a vinaigrette on a slicer, then on a cube 12. It turns out not cubes, but parallelepipeds.
Lisichkalal
Elena, Lerele, Thank you !!! Ohh, I think I am))
Lena, here in both plastic and metal, 3 gratings each include 3, 6 and 12.
But 9 is additional only for metal, well, as in Russia.
fffuntic
And for many years I used a plastic nyser, most likely a fake, and everything suited me. And there was a mountain behind the Nice. But a year ago I got a metal alligator, albeit without a 9x9 grill, and I understood the difference in efforts. It is incomparable.

Cuts fabulous. Definitely an alligator. Whether anyone can compare with him.
However, my cheap nyser had a box easily attached and it was very light and comfortable in my hand.
So I would like to try a plastic alligator and compare. Still not used to the heavy metal alligator bandura.

About the disadvantages for me.
I removed two plastic-rubber washers on the sides. Without them, it's easier for me to press.
The grilles are easy to remove. If without nails, then everything is simple. If with a manicure, you already need to carefully stop at this and not rush.
I never got used to boxing vegetables on an alligator, after being comfortable on a niser. I don't like how it is attached, it's inconvenient for me.

If we talk about pribluda for cubes, then, in my opinion, for tough raw vegetables there is no better alligator.
But if there is even a small opportunity, then for yourself personally try plastic and iron, then be sure to decide.
I'm looking longingly towards the plastic.

Moreover.For a hundred years she pressed with her whole body on my fake-nyser, and after an alligator so wonderful, but heavy, she looked towards a little Bosch with cubes
We are all different.
Mirabel
Quote: fffuntic
But if there is even a small opportunity, then personally try plastic and iron for yourself, then decide for sure
Where to find such an opportunity? only if both buy, then one and 3 ... send back
I bought a budget one in the summer, I seemed to be happy with it at first, now I started to annoy, I look at the Alligator again.
fffuntic
not ... after the alligator, the budget does not roll. Especially when it comes to carrots and beets. If the potatoes are even more or less, then on solid vegetables you immediately not only feel the difference, but feel it with your whole body.
And the onion is cut wonderfully.
If I tried plastic, I would write.
And so while I just swing the barrel on the metal one. If you don't have enough vegetables, that's fine. And if there is a lot, then as long as you pull this metal cover back and forth, there is already less joy.

Or am I so lazy?

Now I switched to an electrician. There are only two grates, which also cannot be called ideal and the lid is difficult to wash.

Mirabel
Quote: fffuntic
after the alligator, the budget does not roll
There was no alligator, so I probably liked the budget one.
fffuntic
Quote: Mirabel

There was no alligator, so I probably liked the budget one.
you won't believe it. My niser is honorably in the locker, my hand does not rise. But cutting carrots on it was a feat. True, I did not know about it for a long time

but now there are no words on iron, everything is like clockwork.
Maybe if it weren't for this old man in the closet, I wouldn't have swore.
But if the old man were as sharp as an alligator, then I would choose him. Structurally, it is more convenient. And it's easier to clean.
albina1966
Quote: fffuntic
But cutting carrots on it was a feat.
I have carrots for pilaf ONLY on Nyser! He is already 8-9 years old, but he cuts perfectly! I adore it, and the cups all broke, threw them away.
Lisichkalal
Yes, unfortunately, there is no way to try both alligators and compare. The difference is 22 euros between plastic and metal, not much, but the fact that it is harder to wield it is embarrassing. But durable. There was no sadness
Nicera's poddler was also and was happy with it, only she was afraid that she was about to crack on a carrot
Mirabel
fffuntic, Nayser what to buy?
albina1966, on which nozzle? and what cups were thrown away?


Added Sunday 05 Mar 2017 05:41 PM

Svetlana, Light, and mine from Lidla does not even think to break, although I hammer hard vegetables on it. But it is somehow difficult to deal with carrots and beets and after the onion there is a lot of uncut.
albina1966
Quote: Mirabel
on which nozzle? and what cups were thrown away?
At 3x3, it seems, is the smallest one. And the plastic cups, like in an alligator, are attached from above.
This is Nayser-Dyser, not a plus, white.
fffuntic
Well, choose by functionality. Let the 9x9 grid decide. If it is very useful to you, take a metal one.
Lattices are very necessary and important.

in any case - the unit is better not to be found
albina1966
Quote: fffuntic
Let the 9x9 grid decide.
I have a Decok with a single 9x9 nozzle, it is semi-budgetary, but it cuts well, I'm happy.
Mirabel
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Girls! Look here please. Is this Nayser normal? there are so many different types of them ... that it is not clear where to stop.
fffuntic
Quote: Mirabel

fffuntic, Nayser what to buy?
mine is not broken so far. It is quite workable.
But .. I do not recommend nice. Not recommended after getting to know the alligator.

Well, on an alligator faster, you can shove in half a vegetable and he playfully slides it.
And on the budget one you have to push, push, push with all your might ...
And if it gets stuck ... pull out, pull out ... Especially on small grates. On a large and nice nice.

It feels like heaven and earth. Now I don’t want anything like before.



Added Sunday 05 March 2017 05:49 PM

Now I'm all for an alligator. I just haven't decided which one: metal or plastic
Mirabel
Quote: fffuntic
press with all your might, crush, crush ...
yes, familiar ... thanks for the advice!
albina1966
I have such a type, irreplaceable for carrots! Carrots - with one movement of the hand. There is also n-D-plus, but that one is kind of flimsy, a carrot will not pull.
Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)
fffuntic
Quote: albina1966

I have a Decock with a single 9x9 nozzle, it is semi-budgetary, but it cuts well, I'm happy.
I started with a deco, only I had two grates there
I liked him until the nice appeared. Decok was mercilessly given into good hands for free
I liked the Nice until I found out that there was an alligator in the world.

That you can not cut the carrot into many pieces before cutting, and not hang on the unit like on uneven bars

I, too, can and can on all these units.
But everything is learned in comparison.

The alligator is really the coolest mechanical ever. And cool by a wide margin

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here is the same as in the photo, but only a blue one - my old man is a nice. People ... he is up to an alligator as to Mars
although the box is more convenient and easier to clean, and lightweight. Good for everyone, except for the main function - cutting hard vegetables
albina1966
Quote: fffuntic
The alligator is really the coolest mechanical ever. And cool by a wide margin
Girls, I would also like an Alligator, but it is very expensive ... well, there is nothing to say ... there is extra money - buy and use it for health!
Mirabel
Quote: albina1966
have extra money
Yeah ... superfluous ... in my opinion, many filled the kitchens with priceless good not at all because the money was superfluous, everything for convenience and for the soul.
fffuntic
Girls, it's not for nothing that I mention the electrician here all the time.
As I understand it, it is quite difficult to acquire one single ideal unit. Each has its own disadvantages.
As of today, my personal choice in the kitchen is not entirely alligator.

If you really spend money, then I would choose an electric mini-Bosch with two types of grilles. Very high quality cutting of vegetables. If the sizes of the lattices are fine. No effort. It also comes with a wonderful onion chopper.
And for a penny, I would buy the cheapest neiser for boiled vegetables and in case, well, if there is one carrot and one onion.

Then half of the birds are killed.
albina1966
Quote: Mirabel
everything for convenience and for the soul.
Vika, that's for sure! If it is too much "zasverbit", then there will be some money!
For the time being, the Alligator is not so great for me, but I try not to look in its direction in order to save ... although I would not refuse!



Added Sunday 05 Mar 2017 06:15 PM

Quote: fffuntic
mini-Bosch with two types of lattices.
What kind of animal is this?
Mirabel
Quote: albina1966
then there are denyuzhki!
ooo don't say ... we moved last year, so I thought in connection with this event, I will generally stop with kitchen purchases. Where there ... I bought so much during this time: girl-swoon: I don't even know where the funds were found
Lisichkalal
Quote: fffuntic

Well, choose by functionality. Let the 9x9 grid decide. If it is very useful to you, take a metal one.
Lattices are very necessary and important.

in any case - the unit is better not to be found
The fact that the alligator drives and buy only it, I have long understood. I waited for my next cheap stuff to crack. But metal or plastic has not yet been decided. Whether 9 by 9 is needed is also unclear. I do not know what sizes I had in the neiser, what are the sizes in the nozzle with cubes for Bosch
fffuntic
Quote: albina1966

What kind of animal is this?
it costs like an alligator, but there are more functions. But there are only two grates, unfortunately. Sharp steel, high-quality cutting, minimum residues after rubbing, which is also important.
If you cook a lot, then I changed the insert ... rubbed the vegetables, changed the insert - cubes.
Chopped the onion.
In size on the table, like an electric kettle.
The main drawback is that it is inconvenient to wash the lid, it requires extra attention in this matter.

But the ideal in the kitchen is generally difficult to find.

Hand blender Bosch MSM671X2 - required x2 (with two grates)
or newer BOSCH MSM881X2

we have a topic on the forum on electrics. I will not be more detailed, otherwise the moderators will swear
albina1966
Quote: Lisichkalal
Whether 9 by 9 is needed is also unclear.
There are no such sizes in a neiser, and 9x9 is an ideal cutting for salads, vinaigrettes, okroshka, as for me.
kirch
Quote: albina1966
mini-Bosch with two types of lattices.
What kind of animal is this?
And I'm wondering
albina1966
Quote: fffuntic
BOSCH MSM881X2
Yeah, I saw that you are tortured to wash the lid there.
fffuntic
Quote: albina1966

Yeah, I saw that you are tortured to wash the lid there.
well, it's hard to praise. I don't like this design itself.
But I personally adapted, in a matter of seconds it already turns out, if not from meat with a napkin and a brush and everything is fast.
There is no alternative. Either an alligator, or it's functional for cubes without any extra effort. But this thing is cooler.

kirch
I have 2 electric cube machines. I use them only for large volumes, which are when canning. Collecting and washing is a chore. But the Alligator - quickly and wash and tweak
Mirabel
fffuntic, if there are no blenders, you can buy this Bosch and be happy, but when there is already a whole battery of them, you really want a small Aligatorchik and hello. And it is much easier to wash it than electric.
fffuntic
Bosch bought, got rid of the rest on Avito
but the alligator, of course, left

But if the alligator was not there, then I would have taken a cheaper Bosch and Nice. For hard vegetables and efforts, let it be Bosch. And for a one-time load, nice.

but again, we are all different. There is no ideal as such. Here everyone decides for himself.

Lisichkalal
All right, I ordered a metal alligator (like a gift for March 8 from my husband) model 3093 for 68.5 euros. Three attachments 3, 6, 12.
Slicer and attachment 9 for the next time)
So I finally decided when my father-in-law (he is French) asked for a bowl of Olivier !!! he really liked this salad)))
Masha Ivanova
Lisichkalal, Svetlana! Congratulations! A great gift for March 8! And already on May 1, you need to buy a 9 by 9 insert and a slicer!
fffuntic
SvetlanaWhen the alligator arrives, I will focus on the moment of two rivets on the sides, which smooth the movement of the top cover. They can be pulled out gently. Carefullyso that not break.
I like it much more without them. You can try without them too, and if you don't like it, put it back in.
Lisichkalal
Elena, Thank you! My husband said take it long ago, but I was thinking. So I thought of it and the gift will come already on March 13))
fffuntic, got it. First, I'll try as it is. It's just that several times it happened that if I undertake to fake or alter something, then I break (((and what is better without them? How to pull it out? And what color are they and from what material, in order to inadvertently pull out something wrong)
Lisichkalal
Got an alligator today, fucking weight! Kg 1.5)) I'll try it tomorrow)
Masha Ivanova
Lisichkalal, Svetlana! We are waiting for the results.
fffuntic
Do you know that the grates should be wetted with cold water before cutting? It cuts even easier. This is the rule for all Nysers and Alligators.
Mirabel
Quote: fffuntic
that the grates should be wetted with cold water before cutting?
the first time I hear about this. I will definitely try on my budget
Lisichkalal
I tried it, but not in full. It was necessary to make as many as 2 basins of Olivier, so I cut the potatoes and carrots with a combine.
Allinator contains sausage, eggs and cucumber.
Nayser cut my sausage too, but with great effort, well, the eggs are clear, the cucumber is also easy.
But the French analogue only crushed the sausage.
I liked the quality, the rubber things do not interfere, the plastic box could be of better quality, but in general, if you buy such a thing, then it is better to immediately an alligator, although it is expensive.
It takes up less space than I thought. I left the extra nozzles just in bags and put them on top of the alligator.
I'll write more when I cut the raw potatoes and carrots.

Merri
Lisichkalal, Svetlana, it will be even more pleasant to cut raw vegetables!
orehova18
Lisichkalal, if it's not a secret, tell me where you ordered?
Mirabel
Girls! help me please!
yet I stop at the plastic Alligator.
got a little tangled up in 3 pines
What a combination. the most optimal. is it best to buy in this store?

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Olga VB
Vikulya, something tells me that
Quote: Mirabel
i stop at plastic alligator
is an intermediate option. Anyway, then you want a metal suite.
Maybe you will think again so that later you do not pay twice
Svetlenki
Quote: fffuntic
do you know that the grates should be wet with cold water before cutting? It cuts even easier. This is the rule for all Nysers and Alligators.

I'm so glad I came across this tip by accident !!! It would be on the first page in bold letters. I have never met this information. Twice "alligatoril" the potatoes with a wet lattice - heaven and earth - like clockwork.

fffunticThank you very much!

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