Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)

There are two fruit holders in Pro Vee Premium. The first one is ordinary, therefore it is not of particular interest. The second is made in the form of a hollow container, where small vegetables are put in (mushrooms, olives, cherry tomatoes, small cucumbers, even small-diameter Beijing cabbage), and right from this box, it is fed to the knives and cut with almost no waste. You can't do that in Bener, as far as I know. Berner has not yet come up with such an adaptation. And it’s fine cutting that interests me.

Ltd!!! Now I remembered the topic of that review, someone then wrote that Berner had a new fruit holder and we all responded in chorus - oh well, wow, where did it come from!?! And then it turned out that it was not Berner

To be honest, I have an idea that olives, cherry tomatoes, radishes - in short, such small things - will still be inconvenient even for such a fruit holder ...

No, radishes are harder - they might be good.

Ltd!!! Now I remembered the topic of that review, someone then wrote that Berner had a new fruit holder and we all responded in chorus - oh well, wow, where did it come from!?! And then it turned out that it was not Berner

Here it is press

Ltd!!! Now I remembered the topic of that review, someone then wrote that Berner had a new fruit holder and we all responded in chorus - oh well, wow, where did it come from!?! And then it turned out that it was not Berner

To be honest, I have an idea that olives, cherry tomatoes, radishes - in short, such small things - will still be inconvenient even for such a fruit holder ...

Above, I posted the video on YouTube. There, of course, a pro works there, but apparently, this little thing simply cannot but work.
But I can’t buy to check it. There’s no such floats in Kiev, everything is over! But here's what's strange. It is clear that for 300 hryvnias, it’s obvious fawn with white knives. But now I got through to the seller, from whom they WERE 450 UAH each (and again they promise not earlier than in a month). So he claims that the blades were "regular metallic" and not black. What does it mean? Like, we can't have an original at all? But he is not even in Europe! I asked my daughter to look in Italy. The closest offer she found is America. And there the manufacturer is China. The only difference is that their China is most likely real, while we have China with a very small letter.

girls, while you are here blah blah, I called your link and talked with a consultant, complained, I say, we are suffering ...

here are her words - we tested and did not get much impression. Not as pretty as the ad. Grater and grater. end of quote. In general, as a victim of the Store on the couch, I want to save some members of the forum from this choice.

Better, just Berner, and the radishes and mushrooms with a combine harvester. Boshikom. 2 kg for boshik ugh. Or already search with black blades for 700 ... search and find, as they say

yes ... and at the same time she added - want to be honest? after that it was possible to hang up the phone, but I listened to the end (it's a pity she can't raise her turnip)

Well then so! I have already come. Zvynyayte, sho without pictures. This department in the department store is called TV-SHOP. Accordingly, all goods from the body of the store.
There is a Pro Vee Premium grater. Price (attention) - 699UAH 629 UAH That's right, like they also have a promotion.
To the question: "Country of origin?" Answer: "Austria". Question: "Exactly Austria? Or the assembly of China?" Answer: "Now let's look at the box" Well, we started looking ... But there is nothing. There is no manufacturer anywhere! Seller: "Well, the language on the box is German, it means Austria" Me: "The logic is iron"
Now about the blades. Black blades are painted on the box, in fact they are steel, without scratches, smooth.
She took it in her hands, held it, twisted it. The impression is not bad, but everything is learned in practice.
The saleswoman said that before that they had some other grater, and so it had titanium blades and they were dark gray in color.
There are three orange grater nozzles next to it. Price 180 UAH. The saleswoman said that this is from the previous one. Only I didn't understand how? The grater was sold without attachments or what?
In general, the seller was very incompetent.

Conclusion is dumb like that.

Conclusion is dumb like that.

for 300 it's dumb, and even for 629 and even more so ...

and by the way, about China. Let it be China - we have not been afraid of it for a long time. (find in your kitchen something not Chinese from 3 items in a row.) But in a good factory in China, under the supervision of Austria, and not on your knees, in the basement

Yes, girls. You made me think ... No, with white blades, I would not take a stopudo for 300, 450, and even less for 600 something.
IRR, the fact of the matter is that mushrooms do not suit me on Boshik! He copes with the volume playfully. But I like to feel them in the dish, they were just pretty ruddy pieces. And after Bosch you can't really fry them, they are already thinly sliced, and then they release the water and stick together, like infections. Well, it is for them that I am looking for a good cutter to close the question once and for all. Bosch planes radishes wonderfully: even with plastics, even with shmatochki. On the largest grater, amazing pieces are obtained. Even small cucumbers Bosch planes with a bang. So I was impressed by this thing about Pro V in relation to mushrooms.
Special thanks to Ruse for the research! I carry a plus sign.

and by the way, about China. Let it be China - we have not been afraid of it for a long time. (find in your kitchen something not Chinese from the technique of 3 items in a row.) But in a good factory in China, under the supervision of Austria, and not on your knees, in the basement

So I say: there is China, and there is China. Two big differences.

Girls, I myself was interested to see.

Well, what should I do? Berner to buy? And continue to plan mushrooms with little hands ((((((((((((((((((((

Why do you need Berner if

And continue to plan mushrooms with little hands

Wait, maybe Berner will release such a thing, and then buy it. Or maybe you will get Pro VI at a very ridiculous price

I got used to mushrooms on this crap with cubes, it is no longer good for anything.
Only the mushroom must be served with its leg first on the grid and push away from you.
And if beauty is needed, then also with a knife ...

Why do you need Berner if
Wait, maybe Berner will release such a thing, then buy it. Or maybe you will get Pro VI at a very ridiculous price

Duc zhezh zhdatinki unbearable - Wishlist was naughty with might and main! And now I hardly dare to buy Pro Vee, even if the blades are not black and not even gray-titanium, but ordinary stainless steel, even for big money.

[julifera]

julifera, thanks for the advice. But I don't know how much this will solve my problem. Firstly, I got used to not cutting mushrooms in bars, but in slices, so that they would be pretty. I tried it with an egg cutter (a principle similar to a mesh), but the strings do not take them. They seem to be stretched well, but in any way, even with a leg forward, even with a hat.
Apparently, it will have to the old fashioned way

I heard that sprayed black kitchen knives will rust if this top coat is damaged. Will the proVi also rust?

I heard that sprayed black kitchen knives will rust if this top coat is damaged. Will the proVi also rust?

First you need to find them with black blades

I heard that sprayed black kitchen knives will rust if this top coat is damaged. Will the proVi also rust?

question to whom? no one has

Girls-Berner studies. Tricky question. And if you attach a ring from the available means to the fruit holder to Berner, can it be fixed somehow? To get some, albeit distant, semblance of a gizmo like that of Pro Vee.

It can and can be fixed. Only there will be no sense. The pusher reaches the edge and the truncated

Why a ring? If you need such a fruit holder as on the wire, it will be enough to take a plate, fix any glass on it and put small vegetables in it. Pushing them in a glass is something like a pusher from a meat grinder.

Girls-Berner studies.Tricky question. And if you attach a ring from the available means to the fruit holder to Berner, can it be fixed somehow? To get some, albeit distant, semblance of a gizmo like that of Pro Vee.

Tanya! if only mushrooms, then you do not need a set of burners, but separate graters. (and there are not only mushrooms, but also your favorite cabbage, etc.)

Here is a combislicer and a holder for it.



read about it carefully, there is an adjustment.

you have it in Kiev 120 gr. And the store is firm.

IRR, what would I do without you?
Right now, I'll cook lunch and dinner (read: I'll throw everything in multi), and I'll go get acquainted with the device.
Thank you dear!!!

Why a ring? If you need such a fruit holder as on the wire, it will be enough to take a plate, fix any glass on it and put small vegetables in it. Pushing them in a glass is something like a pusher from a meat grinder.

I do not quite understand (I have neither Berner, nor a fruit holder to him). And then a glass is needed without a bottom, as far as I understand. Or how?

And I have this combislizer, where the knife cuts both from above and from below, although the plastics are thin, albeit with adjustment, although this may be exactly what our Tanya needs.

But then a glass is needed without a bottom, as far as I understand.

Yes, the glass must be bottomless

And I have this combislizer, where he cuts a knife both from above and from below, although the plastics are thin, albeit with adjustment, although this may be exactly what our Tanya needs.

Strange, my message is missing.
Only thin plates will hardly suit me. Now I generally want everything at once, albeit without a miracle-holder. Probably, I will break into classics, plus 10 mm, and possibly curly and some kind of greater (baby or pizza). Only after all, such a set is oh, how expensive Pro Vee with a freak will pour out. Poor wallet

Probably, I will break into classics, plus 10 mm, and possibly curly and some kind of grater (baby or pizza). Only after all, such a set is oh, how expensive Pro Vee with a freak will pour out. Poor wallet

According to my calculations, it turns out $ 66. A little more expensive, yes! But the quality and reliability (y), proven for centuries

According to my calculations, it turns out $ 66. A little more expensive, yes! But the quality and reliability (y), proven for centuries

Quality with reliability is worth a lot, that's true. But with a miraculous price holder they wouldn’t have been. But ... Looks like it’s not destiny.

There is no limit to perfection

So I’ll wait for him. For now, I’ll use my handles, and a Boshik and a chopper.

Here on the video they show how small products are chopped on the Berner: radishes, gherkins ... Mushrooms, however, were not shown.

[Caprice]

Caprice, interesting video, thank you!
What model did he demonstrate? Prima?
Radishes, gherkins - yes, it does. But at the same time, a delicate moment remains behind the scenes: it seems to me that half of the radish goes to waste, because it remains in the fruit holder. No?
And I also don't quite understand about decreasing-increasing the thickness of the slice. This is how to change it with the same attachment - can any model, or those that are more expensive? Say, Classics will do this? Or is there a different nozzle for each thickness?
Sorry, I ask so many questions. I'm just seriously thinking about buying. I would like a larger set, but pay less at the same time I understand that with Berner this is a dead number, but I can't get rid of the naive desire
Do not send the Berners to the topic, I am reading it. I have mastered it partially, but I have not yet found answers to my questions, but they torment
And I think about the pot. Apparently, you can't do without it either. With this uncle, for what a pro, the grater endlessly soaped to turn over, and even in my non-grab handles - ooo, it will fly far away.
And most importantly - how scared I am! I really want to, and I'm terribly afraid. It was even creepy to watch how a man without a fruit holder "played". In the profile topic Zest, such games with eggplant oh, how sideways got out ...
But I'll buy it anyway.A matter of time (and money)

[Caprice]

Caprice, I also looked with pleasure !! I would never have thought of planting several cucumbers on a fruit holder.

azaza , yes, this is Prima. In any way, something remains in the fruit holder. Carrots, onions, radishes do not have to cut their "butts", thus minimizing waste. Leftover potatoes, for example, I cut with my hands without a holder. CAUTION. Sudok is a matter of habit. I get around, as I'm used to holding the grater while standing. It is more convenient for me to use the cover from Tupper's Thermoserver for this.

In the Classic, the thickness is not adjustable. Of the minuses, here is information from the offsite:

"CLASSIC" she is a classic for being perfect. It was made a long time ago and is so successful and functional that it is difficult to change it. But still:
1. In the Classic model, the inserts are not fixed in the main frame, but slide in and out freely. Sometimes this causes certain difficulties for beginners.
2. In the "Classic" model there is no handle on the "machine", that is, it is not expressed very clearly and this is taken into account. It is more convenient to hold the vegetable cutters of subsequent models.
3. The frame (main knife) in the models following the "Classic" is made thicker and more reliable. And once thicker - material consumption and an increase in price.
4. In the "OPTIMA" model and all subsequent ones, in the frame below the main knife there is a platform that makes it stronger.
5. In the "Classic" model, V-knives are fused into the machine and fixed to each other with a plastic rivet at the V-corner. Considering the remarkable capabilities of our (and not only ours!) Housewives to break out the stuck product from the frame along with the knives, the plant in subsequent models removed this “tender” point and reliably fused the knives into the frame along the entire perimeter.

shl. you still have to go to graters!

shl. you still have to go to graters!

I’m there! But so far not everything is clear.
And I read the information on the site. But thanks anyway
Eh ... I went on to study the profile topic.

[azaza]

I’m there! But so far not everything is clear.

azaza , You would, in order not to suffer with misunderstandings, would go to the store where they sell Berner in your city. There, they will clearly show you everything and give you a try. In 5 minutes everything will become clear, I assure you.

[azaza]

azaza , You would, in order not to suffer with misunderstandings, would go to the store where they sell Berner in your city. There, they will clearly show you everything and give you a try. In 5 minutes everything will become clear, I assure you.

For these 5 minutes it is necessary to ditch 4 hours on the road. I will first decide, and then I will be torn.

[Caprice]

Caprice, interesting video, thank you!
What model did he demonstrate? Prima?
Radishes, gherkins - yes, it does. But at the same time, a delicate moment remains behind the scenes: it seems to me that half of the radish goes to waste, because it remains in the fruit holder. No?

azaza, we position this model as V-Power

As for the off-screen player, who showed what was left off-screen in the Chinese shredder? This moment is simply cut out in your video. Out of modesty, probably
We sell these Chinese slicers as de-ma, even in fairly expensive stores. Personally, if I decide to buy such a device, I would prefer the proven German Berner to the beautifully advertised Chinese counterpart.

As for the one who remained behind the scenes - who showed what was left behind the scenes in the Chinese shredder? This moment is simply cut out in your video. Out of modesty, probably

Well, there is just the design of the glass such that vegetables are not held on the needles, but are pushed by a flat footboard. It is quite possible there to minimize losses.
I'm not saying Pro V is better than Berner! I just want this kind of fruit holder for small vegetables. It is a crime?

For these 5 minutes it is necessary to ditch 4 hours on the road. I will first decide, and then I will be torn.

Has Kiev really grown so much over the years that I have not been there? Or maybe I lost the habit of moving around the city in public transport ...

I just want this kind of fruit holder for small vegetables. It is a crime?

So buy, treat yourself to your beloved, what's the problem? At the same time, tell us when you are disappointed in the Chinese quality. And so many pages are already covered with this "cry from the heart"

[azaza]

azaza
Tanya, I just remembered.
When I hadn’t bought Berner yet (it’d be better if I hadn’t bought it - my fingers would have been more intact, but I’m guilty myself - I didn’t use the holder), I also struggled with a choice, then I saw a vegetable cutter with a Fakelman V-blade on sale at Epicenter. By the way, there, as well as on Pro V, there is also such a container for small (well, or for any) vegetables - it rides in the grooves of the grater, that is, it does not come off. And the fruit-holder is not there. The thickness of the plastics is also adjustable. The price of the issue was somewhere around UAH 190, then, in my opinion, it dropped a little, but I'm not sure. It looks pretty decent. And I didn’t buy it because it was the last broken copy, and when they appeared again, I already had a Berner.
I will say one thing, Berner is certainly a gorgeous thing, and of course expensive, but after my adventures I am afraid of him.
Yes, this Fakelman would be quite enough for such a housekeeper like me - Berner still lives in the closet anyway, but I just chick potatoes on Beyron's Potatoes - so my whole back is wet
And I want to say right away, otherwise the connoisseurs of Berner will kill me without trial and investigation - these are just my thoughts, I do not dissuade anyone from Berner, Berner is the best, I just did not have a friendship with him.

[Caprice]

Has Kiev really grown so much over the years that I have not been there? Or maybe I lost the habit of moving around the city in public transport ...

Having no idea how long you have not been in Kiev, I cannot say that the city has grown too much. The city, rather, has remained almost the same, but the number of car owners has increased significantly. Roads as they were in the seventies have remained the same to this day. Now, on the contrary, it is faster for horseless people to get across the city by metro than to be stuck in traffic jams in their own limousine.
And some were "lucky" especially: they seem to live in Kiev, but in Troyeshchina. It turns out a city within a city. And then it was already a complete ambush - even on a horse, even a meter.

So buy, treat yourself to your beloved, what's the problem? At the same time, tell us when you are disappointed in the Chinese quality. And so many pages are already covered with this "cry from the heart"

Capricewhy such causticity? Is it a Berner grater forum, or is it a gathering of broad-minded people? Is it right to want only Berner, everything else - if not a crime, then the height of human stupidity?
By the way, about the Chinese quality: firstly, at my house almost all the equipment is Chinese, but made in China, not in China. Therefore, this word in itself is not capable of scaring me, except depending on the spelling. Secondly, if you carefully read my cry from the heart, you might notice that I refused to buy this device exactly when I discovered that it is possible to buy only a fake in Kiev, and not the original. I somewhere stated about the desire to buy a cheap fake? No. What kind of assaults? For daring to praise the successful technological solution of another manufacturer, not your favorite Berner? So here, if you take a closer look, the topic is called "Niser Dizer, Alligator, etc.), there is no topic in the title of your favorite manufacturer. According to Berner, there is a separate branch. Do not want to read the cries of strange souls who dared to wish something, besides the worthy Berner - do not go into extraneous topics, enjoy in Berner's thread - not a single strange soul with strange desires will stick there.
And forgive me magnanimously that I took away so much of your precious time with my soul cry about a cheap Chinese trifle

[Toffee]

Toffeethanks for the hint. Just a couple of weeks ago I was in the Epicenter, and I didn't even look at the graters - I was not interested in this question. The hotel is quite unexpected, spontaneous. We'll have to satisfy. Only with what?
I had just decided on Berner, having overcome my fear (I read the horrors of our forum in the profile thread), and you scared me again.I once had a Czech grater with a fruit holder. The device is simple, only for cabbage, but with a sharp knife, and the fruit holder was not attached to it for the sake of beauty. But I was so uncomfortable with him, and without him I was afraid that I practically did not use a grater, and now I don’t remember where I touched it. I already want Berner badly, but I'm afraid it might turn out like that with that Czech grater, or like you and Berner. By the way, there, in the profile thread, there are quite a few such statements: the device is lying around idle after the very first injury.
I don’t know. From the series I want and inject. A lot of money. It's not a pity if the device is actively involved in work. But will it be? Or will I drive the harvester "the old fashioned way", and Berner will safely take up precious space in the closet?

And I want to say right away, otherwise Berner's connoisseurs will kill me without trial and investigation - these are just my thoughts, I don't dissuade anyone from Berner, Berner is the best, I just didn't have a friendship with him.

Aha, I have already been poked I wanted the wrong wishlist, can you imagine? Withdrew from the general line of the party

[Caprice]

Girls! Do you know what scares me the most about Berner? I need a large work surface - so it seems to me somehow I want to decompose beautifully, like a guy with Caprice video, and beautifully chop-chop, blah ... chop everything in the house for the first six months since such money has been paid, this is how everything should be

and our inexpensive mono chick-chick modestly on the corner of the countertop ...

Tanya, I didn't want to scare you, I just wrote about my experience. There are many who have used Berner for many years successfully and without injuries, but some have not worked out. So that ....

[Caprice]

Girls! Do you know what scares me the most about Berner? I need a large work surface - so it seems to me somehow I want to decompose beautifully, like a guy with Caprice video, and beautifully chop-chop, blah ... chop everything in the house for the first six months since such money has been paid, this is how everything should be

and our inexpensive mono chick-chick modestly on the corner of the countertop ...

And these blades scare me - uh and they are sharp

Girls! Do you know what scares me the most about Berner?

IRR, do you already have it? Or do you just want him, but at the same time something pricks somewhere (like mine)? I really want it! But I'm such a coward ... I'm terribly afraid of pain. Reviews like the Iriskins are frightening - she is not the only one. And for this money, you can buy one more multicooker. True, there is nowhere to put, and there is no need for it, but the prices and sizes of devices are incomparable

[IRR]

IRR, do you already have it? Or do you just want him, but at the same time something pricks somewhere (like mine)? I really want it! But I'm such a coward ... I'm terribly afraid of pain. Reviews like the Iriskins are frightening - she is not the only one. And for this money, you can buy one more multicooker. True, there is nowhere to put, and there is no need for it, but the prices and sizes of devices are incomparable

IRR while we still have it without Berner, although I wonder how she is still horseless

Tanya, I didn't want to scare you, I just wrote about my experience. There are many who have used Berner for many years successfully and without injuries, but some have not worked out. So that ....

That's just it. Those who constantly use them do not regret enthusiasm. But there are many like you. The increased sharpness of the blades also has a negative effect - fear.

[IRR]

IRR while we still have it without Berner, although I wonder how she is still horseless

So it’s surprising to me the main device of the country without Berner? IRR, look, let's take off the honorary title