dopleta
Quote: IRR

probably like this - I'll say right away: (not that.

I confirm. I was like that, threw it away
IRR
Quote: dopleta

I confirm. I was like that, threw it away

it is difficult to clean it, I remembered ... and such an impression is roughly cobbled together, like a stool.
kirch
And I broke so quickly. I used it to cut potatoes, I had to pound hard. Broken metal knives
azaza
Girls, trying to find reviews on Pro Vee Premium. The price is not small, as much as possible similar to Berner, but captivates know-how for small vegetables (radishes, mushrooms, olives, cherry tomatoes).

What do you think? On the video, they even shoved Chinese cabbage into this thing!
I have never bought any TV shop products. Somehow it became stronger in the consciousness that they were making a fool of our brother, oh they were making a fool! And then I liked this device so much that I'm ready to order it. Berner is not that interesting without this thing.
The farm has a good shredder (vegetables from it are suitable only for frying) and Bosch Cubix (thus, the issue of acquiring a Niser is no longer needed). In addition to cubes, Bosch planes other vegetables well. The only thing that doesn't suit me is cabbage and mushrooms. Due to its layering and round shape, cabbage sometimes slips in uncut layers. To cut it without reject, you need to mess with pre-cutting the right pieces. And even in the best case, the cabbage from Bosch does not come out the same as I like: if the thickness suits it, then instead of a long thin noodles, short cubes are obtained. Mushrooms on the largest shredder (declared 3 mm) are too thin. But the main thing is not this - the thickness would probably suit me, but there is a lot of sawdust, mushrooms crumple. And to cut by hand a kilogram, or even two (it happens!) Mushrooms is somehow not comme il faut. Berner, as I understand it, is not my assistant with mushrooms.
Any opinions?
Caprice
Quote: azaza

Berner, as I understand it, is not my assistant with mushrooms.
Any opinions?
Why do you think this device will be better than Berner? The principle is the same, but at least Berner has a name earned by quality ...
azaza
Quote: Caprice

Why do you think this device will be better than Berner?
Caprice, I do not think so!!! In fact of the matter. At best, it is no worse. But this is at its best.
And I look in his direction precisely because of this little thing for mushrooms-radishes-olives-tomatoes. Yes, and Beijing cabbage (its upper part) can hardly be cut by the vaunted Berner without it. Or is there one in Berner's latest models too? I have not found. But she is very interesting to me.
Have you heard anything about Pro V? Byaka, right?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Oh, for a little thing I would inflict Berner, at least as an option, and in general the price would not have been to him.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: azaza

Have you heard anything about Pro V? Byaka, right?

Berner's office has a message from one man. He just describes the Pro-Vee grater. Writes that kaka is complete. He said he regretted not buying Berner right away. I don't know how objective this review is.
azaza
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Oh, for a little thing I would inflict Berner, at least as an option, and in general the price would not have been to him.
HERE !!!!!! Thats exactly what I mean! The thing is perfect! How to cut small things without it? Well, okay, Bosch does an excellent job with radishes, they are tough, he does not press them as mercilessly as mushrooms. But tomatoes, and most importantly mushrooms ... And Beijing cabbage is not an extra pleasure at all. I don’t like to cut it in two steps: the upper part by hand, and I shove the rest into Bosch.
So I'm thinking. Maybe become a pioneer? Or not risk it and wait for Berner to come up with something like that?
azaza
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Berner's office has a message from one man. He just describes the Pro-Vee grater. Writes that kaka is complete. He said he regretted not buying Berner right away. I don't know how objective this review is.
The second day I am looking for feedback on the web. I found Vumen on the website, so opinions there were divided 50:50. Apparently, whoever gets the real one is praising, and someone's knee China, respectively, the opinion.
I don’t know. Take Berner - this will only work for cabbage. And it is more important for me to close the mushroom question, everything else, if not as I would like, but bearable. Only mushrooms are a mush. Not exactly mush, but not the way I like it.
How do Berner owners solve the mushroom problem? As far as I understand, are there any here too?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
I, as the owner of Berner, mushrooms - if fresh champignons, and larger, then I cut quite successfully on it. And so it is mainly with handles, with a knife. There is nothing better yet.
kirch
I agree that Berner has a well-deserved name for years. But after I ordered a chopper from them, and it turned out to be made in China and there was no quality, I was offended by them
azaza
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

I, as the owner of Berner, cut mushrooms - if fresh champignons, and larger, then I cut quite successfully on it. And so it is mainly with handles, with a knife. Nothing better has been invented yet
And why, one wonders, an expensive Berner, if the mushrooms still have to be cut with handles?
Go buy something, Pro Vee? I think I found the difference between the real and the left Pro Vee: the real one has black knives, and in some pictures they are white. Try to choose knives?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: azaza

I think I found the difference between the real and the left Pro Vee: the real one has black knives, and in some pictures they are white. Try to choose knives?

Or maybe this is just a deceptive effect of photography? Color rendering of your monitor? Or something else?
Although whoever does not risk it, it is known that .... does not buy ProVi
azaza
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Or maybe this is just a deceptive effect of photography? Color rendering of your monitor? Or something else?
Although whoever does not risk it, it is known that .... does not buy ProVi
No, not an effect. When I was scouring in search of information, somewhere else I ran into another video. And it struck me that the blades (white !!!) are all scratched. Well, I think, and what will happen to them in a month or two? And then I watched this video, which I posted here - there are black blades, no scratches. Right now I'll take a closer look.
And yet, yes - whoever does not risk, he does not lose. But figs will win someday. Let's see. Someone has to be first.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: azaza

And yet, yes - whoever does not risk, he does not lose. But figs will win someday. Let's see. Someone has to be first.

Well, then we will wait for the report, as from a pioneer!
azaza
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Well, then we will wait for the report, as from a pioneer!
By all means! I’ll just decide on an Internet store. I'm afraid to take teleshop, I have never come across them yet. But this type of product is officially only for TV shops sharpened, which means that you need to buy in them - there is less risk of running into a fake. Well, that's my kind of logic. Possibly flawed
irysska
Tanya, I, as the owner of Berner Prima, solve the mushroom issue ... with an ordinary knife.
I watched the video about ProVi - a super idea with this device for small things, in Berner this is well oooooooooooochen not enough. And what is the price of the issue?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: azaza

By all means! I’ll just decide on an Internet store.

I began to look, for the sake of interest, the price - so there is no where. I reviewed a dozen sites. I found it only in Kazakh shadows. Is it worth it?
azaza
Issue price 450 UAH - 56 bucks or 41 euros.
But there are still options for UAH 300 (37 and 27, respectively). The price, of course, is nicer, but that's why it confuses: what's the catch? On the photo the knives are "correct", but hardly the original. And in the official TV shop, Pro V is not
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
So the price is no different from Berner. Pechindaly melochevskaya, though he doesn't have
irysska
Quote: azaza

Issue price 450 UAH - 56 bucks or 41 euros.
But there are still options for UAH 300 (37 and 27, respectively).The price, of course, is nicer, but that's why it confuses: what's the catch? On the photo the knives are "correct", but hardly the original. And in the official TV shop, Pro V is not
Well not sickly so
But, on the other hand, against UAH 630. for my Prima - back and forth.
It would be better, of course, in an official store, because it is clear that the difference is 150 UAH. just because of the kindness of the seller it is hardly possible. On the other hand, who knows
And the option with 300 UAH. - where, from the hands?
azaza
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

So the price is no different from Berner. Pechindaly melochevskaya, though he doesn't have
And this only hurt me and interests me. I don't need Berner without her. If Berner had such a thing, I wouldn't have looked in the direction of the unverified Pro V.
azaza
Quote: irysska

Well not sickly so
But, on the other hand, against UAH 630. for my Prima - back and forth.
It would be better, of course, in an official store, because it is clear that the difference is 150 UAH. just because of the kindness of the seller it is hardly possible. On the other hand, who knows
And the option with 300 UAH. - where, from the hands?
How robust
But I'm tired of planing mushrooms with handles. Good for 300 grams, but I say, I often have cases when I have to plan and 2 kg, and occasionally more. Sometimes I will take a lot at once, if I meet at a cheaper price, I will fry it with an onion, and in the freezer, they can be stored there for months. And cutting such a mountain of mushrooms is not for the faint of heart. And in general, mushrooms in my diet do not take the last place.
I wouldn't even look at such an ad from my hands. It seems like a TV shop too, but the price is alarming.
Well, here the name speaks for itself
azaza
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @


So it unsettled my soul
Well, now I am also guilty!
But in general, yes, I'm still guilty. Sorry! But for this I take all the risks on myself: first I will try it myself, so that no one runs into any of me because of me.
irysska
Well, according to the first link in the TV shop, everything looks solid. And you call there (or maybe you can pick it up yourself, you are also in Kiev) and ask what color the blades are and warn that if the delivered goods are with blades of a different color, then you will not take them.
But I’m thinking, we can price 450 there only for the name of the store and for advertising on a zombie, well, a TV set, and the graters are the same. It may well be.
By the way, according to the second link, everything looks like a bunch, and also Kiev. And you call both there and there - ask them about the color of the blades and the guarantee of originality.
azaza
Quote: irysska

Well, according to the first link in the TV shop, everything looks solid.
Well, that's already undignified! I called. The site claims to work around the clock, 7 days a week. And in real life, at the height of a weekday, they do not answer calls. I ordered a call back. Let's see how quickly they react.
I don't even want to talk about Beijing. There, in some categories, it is openly stated: copies hours, copies mobile phones. So that.........
Looking further.
azaza
I am reporting. They called back quickly. Original parts, assembly China. (already interesting)
I ask what color the blades are: white or black? Silver metal. Well, everything is clear, here is the Chinese assembly from original details.
I continue to search.
Rusya
Tan, I saw such an orange one in one of our shops. I don't remember the name, but it looks very similar. I didn't remember the price either, but I remember exactly that the price strained me. Now it is interesting or not, to hold it in handles, and what color blades. Just take it and go to the store.
azaza
Quote: Rusya

Tan, I saw such an orange one in one of our shops. I don't remember the name, but it looks very similar. I didn't remember the price either, but I remember exactly that the price strained me. Now it is interesting or not, to hold it in handles, and what color blades. Just take it and go to the store.
Rusya, take it and go! And you will satisfy your own curiosity, and help people
But in general, they all look alike with their muzzle: all orange, all V-shaped. The main intrigue - is there a thing for small vegetables in it?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: azaza

Original parts, assembly China. (already interesting)
I ask what color the blades are: white or black? Silver metal. Well, everything is clear, here is the Chinese assembly from original details.
I continue to search.

On some site I met:
Country of origin: Yantian, China

And the color of the blades - they may not quite understand that the metal can also differ in color, shade, depending on the components of the alloy. Village in one word. You have to look with your eyes and feel with your hands.
Rusya
Oh, and you know how to persuade people. I went to get dressed. I'll come and unsubscribe.
azaza
Quote: Rusya

Oh, and you know how to persuade people. I went to get dressed. I'll come and unsubscribe.
Come on! I'm looking forward to! With a huge !!! And be sure to look at the blades.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: Rusya

Oh, and you know how to persuade people. I went to get dressed. I'll come and unsubscribe.
Take a fotik, well, or a snapshot on your phone Boom to all the worlds to consider, a trick guide.
azaza
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

On some site I met:
Country of origin: Yantian, China
You have to look with your eyes and feel with your hands.
So I want to hold her in my hands. In no case will I buy a pig in a poke.
Faced with the problem that they are not available anywhere from the declared places. They say they were sold out. It's strange. If they are actively being bought, why are there no reviews on the internet?
julifera
Quote: azaza

So I want to hold her in my hands. In no case will I buy a pig in a poke.
Faced with the problem that they are not present anywhere from the declared places. They say they were sold out. It's strange. If they are actively being bought, why are there no reviews on the internet?

I remember something that we had a review on our site, and with photos.
It's just that there is a blockage at work, there is no time to look.
Possibly Berner's theme.
azaza
Quote: julifera

I remember something that we had a review on our site, and with photos.
It's just that there is a blockage at work, there is no time to look.
Possibly Berner's theme.
Is it positive or negative? I didn't find it through the search, but you can't go over the whole topic in a snap - be healthy there!

And in my search I ran into an unexpected problem. There are no them, Pro Vee Premium! In the tyrnet there is, and on the call it turns out that either there is no, or a palette with white blades.
irysska
Yes, in the description on this very Beijing it says about black blades "Brand new vegetable cutter PRO VI PREMIUM. The first steel vegetable cutter with a fantastic blade coating. The pitch black blades have a special place among all other vegetable cutters, and all because of their cutting qualities. It's a hardened metal, hard as diamond and the famous microscopic notches. Nothing will stick to the blades. These blades will last forever! The food will be cut perfectly. "
So you gotta look in both eyes
From the cutting edge itself, judging by the picture, it is about 1 cm wide. indeed silver, and the rest of the surface is black.
azaza
Quote: irysska

So you gotta look in both eyes
Ir, nowhere to look. No, No, no, no! Wherever I call - not available. Only once ran into white blades, but there it was clear at the price - 300 UAH.
julifera
I don’t remember what the review was, because they were bragging about what they bought, like hurray hurray I bought just such a beauty.
We also sold them in the department store in the TV-shop department, they lay for a long time, no one took it, now this department is gone, but I would also go and look, 5 minutes walk from work ...
But to be honest, I did not dare to take it, Berner is still guaranteed of high quality.
irysska
Quote: azaza

Ir, nowhere to look. No, No, no, no! Wherever I call - not available. Only once ran into white blades, but there it was clear at the price - 300 UAH.
maybe not all the blade is silvery, but only a part?
azaza
Quote: julifera

But to be honest, I did not dare to take it, I bought Berner, all the same it is guaranteed of high quality.
Yes, but guaranteed quality Berner won't solve my problems. And taking an extra device unnecessarily, just shob bulo, it's not for me.
azaza
Quote: irysska

maybe not all the blade is silvery, but only a part?
And what part of it can be silver? There is a silvery body, and the blades are black. And the price speaks for itself.
julifera
Quote: azaza

Yes, but guaranteed quality Berner won't solve my problems. And taking an extra device unnecessarily, just shob bulo, it's not for me.

I'm confused - what will pro-V decide what Berner will not solve?
azaza
Quote: julifera

I'm confused - what will pro-V decide what Berner will not decide?
There are two fruit holders in Pro Vee Premium. The first one is ordinary, therefore it is not of particular interest. The second is made in the form of a hollow container, where small vegetables are put in (mushrooms, olives, cherry tomatoes, small cucumbers, even small-diameter Beijing cabbage), and right from this box, it is fed to the knives and cut with almost no waste. You can't do that in Bener, as far as I know. Berner has not yet come up with such an adaptation. And it’s fine cutting that interests me.
irysska
And you take a closer look at the photo

Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)
Not all the blade is black, but its end is still light - well, at least that's how I see it
azaza
Quote: irysska

And you take a closer look at the photo

Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)
Not all the blade is black, but its end is still light - well, at least that's how I see it
You see wrong. The blade is completely black. And what is light is the gap between the blade and the plastic insert.
irysska
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

This is the gap!
Well, you and the head.
irysska
Quote: azaza

You see wrong. The blade is completely black. And what is light is the gap between the blade and the plastic insert.
The boom is to treat eyesight, it's not right - call me and don't hit it with a slipper very much - I haven't had dinner yet and that's why I get involved
azaza
Quote: irysska

Boom to treat eyesight, it's not right - call me and don't hit it with a slipper - I haven't had lunch yet and that's why I get involved
Heh, I haven't had breakfast yet! I'm looking for everything. And they are not

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