DarthSidious
Quote: shelma
the time and temperature values ​​change
Time can be adjusted, but temperature is not!
There are three modes in which the temperature is unknown. The temperature is fixed. There is a suspicion that the temperature is the same in all modes. Although it may be different.
shelma
Yes, I looked at the instructions on their website, you can change the time, the temperature is not, but for fermentation it should not exceed 38, only if you check whether it is overheating or not? , and this can be said only after using
Crochet
Quote: Keti
Yoghurt maker - thermos Hilton JM 3801 Green

I wonder if no one got it?
Maria_Happy
Mona1, Hello! Can I turn to you for advice and ask a few questions? ...... In general, as far as I understand, a yogurt maker should be:
Without a timer / so that the containers are on the same level / so that the containers are 2/3, or even the full height in the yogurt maker / power from 15-20 watts? Got it right?

Second question. Any thermostat? Or a certain one? The prices are just different from 700 to 5000 rubles ... So I think which one is more accurate.

Third question. I’m really looking closely and choosing yoghurt makers, but I’m also puzzled in advance with practical questions. For example, I'm wondering if I dilute a package of starter culture in 2 liters of milk, yogurt / fermented baked milk / kefir, for example, can somehow be used as a starter culture? Or should I use a new starter every time? If possible, please, please, explain the diagram to me. How to do it right. How much yogurt to store (as a starter for a subsequent batch of yoghurt). How much can be reused And so on. I will be very grateful to you!

Fourth question. I have a cartoon. The simplest one. If you pull out the container, there is a disc heating element in it. There are programs such as: rice / heating / frying / steamer. Do you think it can be somehow converted into a yogurt maker? The lid only there is simple, like from a saucepan (with a hole for steam to escape).
And a question / tip. Among the variety, I found this: 🔗... (Link without viruses, etc.). Name maxwell mw-1430w. Please see the characteristics. What do you think? A good option?

Sorry for so many questions, but judging by the topic, you are a pro in yoghurt making. And I really, very, very grateful to you if you will guide in such a difficult choice.
Thank you very much for reading. I look forward to hearing from you. Have a nice day!
Mona1
Maria, many questions, I will answer briefly in order, although not a guru, I had only one yogurt maker in use and only one of my thermostats and starter cultures I made 5-6 different pieces, and even those from our Ukrainian market. You have others there, probably. But still:
It is advisable to take a yoghurt maker without a timer, electronics, automation and other crap. On and off button only. The cheaper the better. But even here, I would advise you to take not with plastic cups but with glass ones. Power 15-20, it is basically that. Arietta is like 12, but if the room is cold, she may not be warm. And in general, it is rectangular, but it is better not to take such, the heat distribution is worse, and you can shove a saucepan into a round one. If there is no yogurt bowl in the kit, then it doesn't matter. Any suitable salad bowl is round or, like me, I put in a glass saucepan. I even put the dough several times in a yogurt maker in a round dough basket. How long the cups should be immersed in the yogurt maker, I don't know. Strong or not, I have not tested how important it is. I have one of my yogurt makers and the jars are immersed in it a little less than half their height.
By the way, I have a Klatronic yogurt maker (aka Bomann), see the exact name under my profile picture (press the word TECHNOLOGY). So, an additional set of jars (6 pieces) is also sold separately for it. In addition to the 7 that comes with the yogurt maker. And extra jars are always needed. For example, you don’t have to wait until the last one is free to make yoghurt, or maybe some other sourdough. And suddenly some one crashed, so not bad. True, I once searched the Internet in Russia. So, I did not find these jars there at all, although I met a yogurt maker on sale. But that was a year ago, somewhere, maybe now there is.
Even when choosing a yogurt maker, pay attention to the volume of the jars and the total amount of yogurt that can be prepared at one time. There is 1 liter, there is 1.5 liters at a time and more. Maybe you don't need so much. And the volume of the jars is important. Convenient when I took the jar and ate it. My 160 ml jar includes. And there are yogurt makers - 250 ml cups or jars. It would be a bit too much for me at one time. By the way, according to the link that you gave to the Maxwell yogurt maker, there are only 5 jars of 150 ml. This is probably not enough, you will often have to do it. There is another Maxwell, this one, there are 7 jars in it, this one can be taken
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I do not quite understand on your question what it means: containers should be at the same level. They all have one. And I would not even take a yoghurt maker, where the cups are inserted into such deep wells. How to cram a thermoregulatory sensor into them, I can't imagine. And yet, in some yogurt makers, water is poured between the cans during preparation (like some Tefal, but I won't say for sure). This one is also not needed, there is also a thermostat sensor, perhaps it will be, it is not necessary to wet it.
I will not tell you about thermostats, I have one, this one
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By the way, they sent them to Russia too, I don't know how now. But you can look at others as well. Adjustment step so that it has not 1 degree, but 0.1 degree. And so that the wiring, preferably on which the sensor is flat, so that it is in cross section (that is, not the wire on which the plug is in the socket, but the wires with the sensor), then it freely crawls under the cover of the yogurt maker. I took mine for a long time, and then there were only round wiring, so I had to drill a hole in the case in a new yogurt maker in order to place this sensor inside. Nothing complicated, but if anything, then the yogurt maker would not be subject to repair under warranty. By the way, you may not take the thermostat for now. Maybe you're lucky and the yogurt maker won't overheat, especially since it's not summer right now, there is no heat. Even if it overheats a little, it doesn't matter, put a cardboard or a silicone mat on the bottom or buckwheat-cereal, as they did here, pour it on the bottom, and a cardboard on it, the temperature will be adjusted as needed.
You can make yogurt in a multicooker, but only if there is a Yogurt program or a Manual mode, or in some it is called a Multi-cook, where you can set the temperature to 40 degrees (and in some there is even 30 degrees, which is suitable for kefir, for example). And in other multicooker there is no 40 degrees, so you can't do in these.
It is not necessary to dilute the starter culture in 2 liters of milk. In a yogurt maker, probably 1 liter will only go in, but where to put the rest of the liter? And it is made from powdered leaven for 6-8 hours, or even more, depending on what kind of leaven. What will the second liter do all this time and in what then ferment it if the jars are occupied by the first liter? I usually just divide the starter. If the sachet is designed for 2-3 liters of milk, then I sprinkle half of the powder, take it away, and make yogurt in 1 liter, and close the rest of the sachet of starter culture well, and put it in the refrigerator (and some, but not all, you can put it in the freezer) ...
Then they made yogurt, it is necessary that it cool down, at least 2-3 hours in the refrigerator, or even overnight. Only then can you eat. And then in uncooled bacteria are still too active, this is not very much for the body. Next time you can take a little yogurt prepared before for fermentation. I usually get 6 jars of almost full and 1 half full from a liter of milk.So I send it to the refrigerator, where it is colder (but not to the freezer) and then I use these half-jars completely in the next leaven. Just don't throw this curd into the warmed milk right away, as I did the first time, it then broke into pieces and did not want to dissolve. And you just need to pour a little milk into these half jars of yogurt, stir, and only then pour it all into the heated to the temperature required for the prepared sourdough. Usually it is 36-38 degrees. Therefore, you also need to have a thermometer (called for conservation). You can re-acidify several times, but usually I trust my taste. If I hear that the taste is spoiling, becoming sour, then I start a new leaven. But if you give to little children, then once or twice, and it will be enough to re-ferment. And there are leavens that do not need to be over-leavened at all. These are those whose names begin with BI. Bifidum, bifivit, bifylact, bifidumbacterin and others .. They consist mainly of bifidobacteria, which are not over-fermented. But very, very useful. By the way, the Yogurt starter can be made and consumed constantly, and the rest must be changed. You make a month one type (do not over-ferment a month, but simply ferment one type of starter), then switch to another type so that the body does not get used to one composition of bacteria. But all this must be learned about a specific leaven, what and how to do with it. Some starter cultures are positioned as the first complementary foods for babies, you also need to find out from how many months you can give. Well, for a baby it is better not to re-ferment repeatedly. Usually the mother's starter culture is made (this is the name of the first yogurt from the powder, when you diluted the powder in milk and prepared yogurt. This is what is called the mother's starter culture.) It is then used for the next preparation 1 time (if for babies), and maybe this times are not allowed, but only the motherboard is given to the baby. You should find out this from a specialist better than me. On our forum there is a branch "Ask an expert", that's where they will definitely answer. Yes, I haven’t had such a long post yet. I hope that you are more or less clear now. I wish you a good yogurt maker and delicious yoghurts!
Maria_Happy
Thank you so much! Yes, you are right, 750 ml will not be enough ... Tell me please, do you put the thermostat between the jars? Do you attach it with tape? Are you laying closer to the center or not? Regarding the leaven, here you poured half of it, put it in the refrigerator (by the way, the choice of where to store it, in the freezer or the refrigerator, can you find out on the Internet for a specific leaven? Not subject to re-fermentation)? And for how long is the maximum? As I understand it, since it is open once, then storage is short in terms of time? For example, I over-ferment for the second or third time, the taste is a little sour, nothing will happen if adults eat such yogurt (if it is not horrible in taste)? Otherwise it will be a pity to throw it away ... presumably a negative effect, it is clear that pity will have to be removed))) it became, yes, more understandable. At least the information was spread out on the shelves in my head. Thank you very much!))))) I was carried away by this topic, now then I will choose a yogrut maker, but I will fill up with leaven ...
Maria_Happy
Mona1, please tell me, as an option, you can, for example, use jars of food for children (mashed potatoes, for example), I remember they are like 150 ml (large), the material is glass, but the lid is iron. The iron lid will not affect the fermentation of yogurt (you never know)?
Yulia Antipova
Quote: Maria_Happy
for example, use jars of food for children (mashed potatoes for example), I remember they are ml 150 like (large), the material is glass, but the lid is iron. The iron lid will not affect the fermentation of yogurt (you never know)?
Maria_Happy, Maria, I'm not Mona, but I can answer
Yogurt fermentation takes place without lids - this is indicated in almost all yogurt maker models.We close the lids before placing them in the refrigerator. The yogurt is already thick, so it does not directly touch the metal, and there seems to be some kind of coating in the baby food cans (I don’t remember exactly, my daughter has already grown up). So use calmly
Mona1
Maria_HappyYou ask so many questions. Let's act somehow as the situation develops. Buy a yogurt maker. Try it in it, maybe you won't need a thermostat, maybe you can get by with a cardboard on the bottom. And if not, then there will be questions about how to fix it, and how to set it up.
About starter cultures - you need to look at the manufacturer's websites or on a sachet of starter culture - the shelf life and storage temperature must be indicated. If the bag is opened and halved, then, of course, the shelf life is reduced. How much? Well, though I'm a guru))), but not that much. This is how your instinct tells you. Besides, the leavens are different, one needs one, one another. I will not say that. In the freezer, probably half and hermetically sealed, it is stored longer than just in the refrigerator. This is understandable. But if you made half a bag of yogurt, re-fermented it two or three times, during this time a week or two has passed. Then, probably, nothing in such a time will happen to a floor bag in the refrigerator. But again, to divide or not to divide is your choice. Ferment producers do not recommend dividing, as well as re-fermenting repeatedly. And you could believe them, if not for one BUT. They are interested in buying sourdoughs more often. Therefore, it is not necessary to over-ferment and divide. This is probably why. Or maybe somewhere they are right. Again, this is your choice and your decision. I do like this. But it may not be right.
Unfortunately, I cannot continue to write here for now, before Easter and a week after it - I have a lot of work and orders. So I get tired so that I can hardly breathe. Please understand correctly.
Maria_Happy
Mona1, forgive me, I'm just always meticulous to the smallest detail .... The thermostat will still buy, since I want to cook different types of sour milk (with different temperature ranges). I'm very grateful to you! Thank you very much for taking the time, explaining, and putting it on the shelves. Even though you say that you are not a guru, you know a lot of nuances, subtleties ... And I am really glad and grateful that you shared your knowledge with me. I understand. All the best to you! Strength and health to you
Maria_Happy
Yulia Antipova, Thank you so much! What a savings))) anyway, soon to introduce mashed potatoes, there will be a whole warehouse of jars))))
kolobok123
Girls I am very confused by the amount of yogurt obtained.
I need about two liters of yogurt a day.
What device can do that many?
Gandalf
Quote: kolobok123
I need about two liters of yogurt a day.
Steba JM2, Brand 4002, 2.4 l each.
Well, or 2 liter units - Travola MD-1000, Smile MK 3001, Ariete Yogurella.
Yulia Antipova
Quote: Gandalf
Brand 4002 at 2.4
I have such a Brand. To get 2.4, you need to pour it flush with the edges. I get somewhere 1.8 liters. But I pour it so that I put the jam right into the glass, stir it and eat it. So that Gandalf, Yuri, right. 2 liters will fit there perfectly.
DarthSidious
Quote: kolobok123
I need about two liters of yogurt a day.
What device can do that many?

Like this:
Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2)

Sold in Metro. His name is Marmite there! It is worth for permanent shares in the region of 3tr. If you need not only 2 liters will make, but 5-6 easily!
Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2)
Yulia Antipova
DarthSidious, Alexei, but you can find out what this particular model is called? And then at my request, the food warmer is only displayed on gel fuel ...
DarthSidious
Quote: Yulia Antipova
DarthSidious, Alexey, can you find out what this particular model is called?
Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2)

HORECA SELECT, model GBM2002
There, as far as I remember, 4 models differ in height and the presence / absence of a faucet.
Power 1200W do not scare you, because to maintain the temperature, it turns on for 30 seconds every 40 minutes. Plus, no one forbids pouring warm water right away.
Yulia Antipova
DarthSidious, Alexei, thank you very much!
traidon
Owners of thermostats! Can you please tell me what temperature range do you set?
Yesterday I received a parcel with him and for the second day I am experimenting with water and it turns out that in the range of 40-42 grams, in 5 hours the water in the jar heats up only to 36 with kopecks = (is this normal?
Reine de Saba
And I am with a similar question. I put the jars of water three hours ago. To measure the temperature. Now I measured 39 ° С in one jar, and about 37 ° С in the rest. Please tell me is it undercooked or normal? The yoghurt maker is new, just delivered yesterday. Perhaps there are already answers somewhere, but I cannot master so many pages.
traidon
Reine de Saba, Heh, I measured something in the middle))
Now I made a measurement, without a thermostat - in an average jar of 45 ° C, and at the edges of 40.5 ° C. Sadness-sorrow
Sergey_A
Quote: simulia
Quote from soulksiu on Feb 20. 2014, 11:21
Boyaka's cat, bought Ves VYM-2 ....
Today I bought the same one, put yogurt overnight, then I'll write what happened. And also water is poured into the body of the yogurt maker (according to the instructions).
A year later, I bought a device. I tried it for the first time - already more than satisfied.
Shellenna
Good day! I am looking at the Redmond RYM-M5401 yogurt maker, I want to buy, can you please tell me if this is a good model?
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
Identity, that's how I thought about buying a yogurt maker
I have Yulmart next to me, and, as it were, almost all the equipment is bought there \ so far there have been no complaints except for a battery for a Nokia phone \
So in stock they have such a model for 1990 r

yoghurt maker Zigmund & Shtain YM-216DB

The electric yogurt maker Zigmund & Shtain YM-216DB in a stylish case combines functionality and modern design and will become an irreplaceable assistant in your kitchen. The appliance is equipped with an LCD display with an electronic timer from 1 to 15 hours and an automatic shutdown function after the end of the cooking process. Low power of 21.5 W saves energy. Includes glass jars with screw lids and a large plastic container with a lid of 1500 ml

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I have a question
If anyone has one, well, or similar - in the sense of a jar and container.
There is di sense in such a configuration.
Sergey_A
Quote: Sergey_A
A year later I bought a device
And here she is: Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2) so Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2)
Maksimama
Sergey_A, such a cutie
lettohka ttt
Sergey_A, Wow, they gave me this one for my birthday too! How do you like it ?? I wonder if it can replace the fermenter? I have not yet approached it, at least I need to cook yogurt in it :-)
Maksimama
Quote: Maksimama

Eh, I have no luck with yogurt makers (
Less than a month later, my beauty Redmushka began to overheat ((((I began to give out yoghurts. Not sour, without whey, but they were much smoother and smoother at the beginning. Yesterday I began to measure the water - in three hours it reached 43 degrees ... Immediately I call the Multicooker. about. "Well, they shouldn't be so hot, call your service, ask what you want to do." And in the service, everything is not so simple as always ("Bring, we'll see, we'll make a request to the plant." Do you want to take it to the service tomorrow, while your husband is off? or Bed? And if you are lucky with the service - rent, repair, change? 6 to 200 versus 8 to 180 ...

Struggling with high fever. Sewed her a dress Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2) made of 3 layers of fine felt. At night for 8 hours put biolact Yogurtel. Yum yummy
I also want to try to put a cork piece as they put it under the laminate. Do you think you can?
Sergey_A
Quote: lettohka ttt
can she replace the fermenter?
For me, they are not much different. Is that Fr can keep different temperatures. Then this is a big plus. But it is doubtful that he is capable of such.
ZverevaLara
Quote: Sergey_A

And here she is: Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2) so Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2)
I have one too, I really like it! I bought it on the basis of two considerations - for me personally)) - one container of 1 liter (my family will not eat from jars, they still put it in bowls) and a low price (because I did not know how often we will use it) I make yogurt a little not every day, I bought 2 liter containers per shift, the conveyor is just yogurt in the summer. I also want to try to make sour cream.
Sergey_A
Quote: ZverevaLara
I also have one, I ... do it.
Well, really, everything is like mine (except about the family), every word is like mine.
lettohka ttt
ZverevaLaraAnd, I really liked it, and what additional containers ??? You can show?? I also want additional ones, otherwise one will not be enough :-) :-) :-) I made sour cream, it turned out great :-) :-)
Sergey_A
Quote: lettohka ttt
and what additional containers ???
I in Magnet in FIX-Price bought cans for 0.9 and 0.7 liters. They are also sold in other stores, but at a higher price. 0.7L too narrow for Y, and 0.9 liters. a little too big for the lid, but I just put it on top.
Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2)
I got a hint about sour cream. And I tried to make yogurt from the remainder of the leaven - it turned out to be almost liquid kefir, but without sourness ... But I liked it (it still remains in the jar, but today I will drink it). Especially with sweet additives it is delicious. I also drink with pleasure without additives. Since childhood I have been a pro-milk man.
Mona1
shade, Anatoly. I read the whole Temka, but there was no such name here. So this is a dark horse. From the visual disadvantages, as for me - a rectangular shape. Heat is usually distributed more evenly in a round one, although in round ones, it depends on how the heating element is laid there, to some places it is stronger, in some weaker heating. So maybe this one will be good with heat distribution. There is another (possible) disadvantage, much more significant. Almost all yogurt makers overheat. Well, 90 percent, that's right. If not immediately, then over time. It is not a fact that this will be so, but if all of a sudden it turns out that way, then it will not work to attach a separately purchased thermostat to it, because in the yogurt maker there is an electronic shutdown, automation. Of course, if the overheating is very insignificant, then you can simply lay some napkins or a silicone mat on the bottom, or whatever, and this will save the yogurt. Well, starter cultures with a lower temperature (VIVO for example), then, will not work either. And if there is strong overheating, then the substrates will not save.
lettohka ttt
Thank you Sergey !!! sorry we do not have a magnet, and there are no such cans either Sergey, heat-resistant cans or ordinary ones ?? And, I am happy with the yogurt maker, it does not overheat, it keeps the declared temperature, and there are good reviews about it in otzovniki, I like it more than the round canned one :-) :-) I played with it and abandoned it :-) :-)
Sergey_A
Quote: lettohka ttt
sorry we don't have a magnet
Do not regret !!! I confused it with FIX-Price! And I saw them in other stores.
Quote: lettohka ttt
heat-resistant or ordinary jars ?? And, I am happy with the yoghurt maker, it does not overheat, it keeps the declared temperature ... I like it more than the round canned one :-) :-) I played with it and threw it away
I bought without looking at their durability. And why is it 40 degrees. need ?! And I am satisfied, and I am. The truth is still playing with her! There are already 2 charged cans in hold-ke.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Well, it's more practical with one bowl or with several small

After all, I understand that after making yogurt, it can be decomposed into any portioned jars

Sergey_A- - Yes, and why is it 40 degrees. do you need?

And how much do you think it is needed

I'm not out of idle curiosity
Two thoughts in my head about choice
I want to buy or some kind of inexpensive well like yours - within a piece
Or just a specific thread like this one-Tefal YG 6568-
julia_bb
I also looked at the VES yoghurt maker, I wanted to take it, I liked the design
lettohka ttt
shade, why think? Tea is not a cow we buy :-) :-) :-) buy first a budget one to evaluate all the pros and cons, and then decide whether you need it or not, to each his own !!!! For example, the cans are not ice for me, I played a couple of times, and successfully forgot, and it takes up a lot of space, but this one is small and neat, for 1 liter, if you want, the product can be shifted, so I was puzzled by additional containers, I can't find it yet :-) -) :-)
Maksimama
shade, My opinion is better than banks! They can still be sterilized well. As for me - it is better to take a round Brand, and you will be happy! If you want - in glasses. Few? They say there are 4 half-liter cans
lettohka ttt
Sergey_AThere are already 2 charged cans in hold-ke
Then we go to you!!!!
Maksimama
shade, but about the need for 40 degrees - this is how I understood about heat resistance)
julia_bb
I also have Moulinex with jars, but it's convenient for me to do it in one container than to mess with several.
shade, take ves, and you can pick up a glass jar to it if the plastic does not suit you.
40 degrees meant that the temperature is low, and bad plastic can stand out at high temperatures
lettohka ttt
julia_bb,
Mams
Quote: shade

After all, I understand that after making yogurt, it can be decomposed into any portioned jars

When the yogurt is ready, it has a dense consistency. If you start to transfer to a smaller container, then the structure will be broken. It will not affect the taste, but it will lie in lumps / pieces in the jar. If initially made in small portioned containers, then whole yogurt just looks more aesthetically pleasing. There is no feeling that someone has already eaten it before you. IMHO, of course.

From the point of view of any micro-patho-flora. Climbing into a common jar with a spoon - there is a chance to bring some byaka. Well, or rinse a spoon with boiling water before putting it in a jar. And from this point of view, small containers are more convenient.

In small containers, the fermentation process goes faster. More evenly. Again, IMHO. I tried this and that, personally I like small cans more. For 150-200 ml.

Again, if the liter container is damaged in some way (for those devices where a single container is initially used), it will be more difficult to buy it than to replace a small jar. Now on sale there are cans from Redmond - well, very convenient because they have a bottom and a neck even, the walls are straight. More economical options can be found. Usually two sets of cans are needed. I recently bought yogurt in glass jars (the clear edge is called, the price of a 200 ml jar is 48 rubles, they ate yogurt, left the jars)
Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2) The lids are comfortable ...

Again, if you wanted yoghurt, you took a portioned jar and ate it, no need to shift something somewhere. It's just more convenient.

If you make drinking yoghurt, a large container is definitely more convenient. It is not difficult to pour from it into glasses.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Mams-
Thank you, I think, I read.

Guys and who has this very VES, explain what it is, the instructions for it are written

Attention: before placing the container in the appliance
it is necessary to pour about 150 ml of water on the bottom of the device
room temperature

In the sense of a container in a water bath
Gandalf
Quote: shade
Well, it's more practical with one bowl or with several small
I wanted to answer, but here it is already deployed, completely in line with my opinion, great answer from Mams, Olga.
I will only add that sterilizing glass jars is no problem.
Sergey_A
Quote: shade
And how much do you think it is needed
Heat resistance is important at high T. And when T is almost the body ... then you have to be afraid of plastic.
Quote: julia_bb
I liked her design
I gave the second one to my friends - I also went to the teapot with flowers.
Quote: lettohka ttt
buy budget first
Yeah. Only useful for a long time.
Quote: lettohka ttt
For me, for example, cans are not ice ... and it takes up a lot of space ... this small and neat ... the product can be shifted
Yeah ... yeah ... yeah ... yeah. It's just a pity that they don't sell their banks.
Quote: Maksimama
Still, they can be sterilized well ... take a round Brand ... There, they say, there are 4 half-liter cans
So you can agree on the sterilization of your teeth. ... And they do not say how many tugriks of half a thousand for a name should enter the cashier? And how many of them then need to be washed, and not all at once!
Quote: lettohka ttt
Then we go to you!!!!
1. They are at yourgothe ride will already be eaten. 2. Or such good will deteriorate!
Quote: Maksimama
40 degrees - this is how I understood about heat resistance
About her, not available everywhere, but necessary.
Quote: julia_bb
stand out from bad at high temperatures
Aha!
Sergey_A
Quote: shade
In the sense of a container in a water bath
Literally. They all work this way, if I'm not mistaken.
Sergey_A
Quote: Mams
When the yogurt is ready ...
I will not comment on each of your paragraphs. I will answer in general: Do not complicate everything with different little things. And then (I repeat) you can agree before the sterilization of the teeth. Did you know that Ch's mouth is not the cleanest place in the body? It's all about taste and needs. No more.
Quote: Mams
took a portioned jar and ate it, no need to shift something somewhere
Took 6-7 jars and lids and washed them all? Yes?

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