Angel with horns
Quote: djemma

Oh, I probably didn't understand. I have it in Russian, but for machines without induction. Do you need this?
Of course, let it be! There is still no other one. And Kesha needs to be mastered. Still, where the instructions for it in Russian can be downloaded, although maybe I'll figure it out, I've been reading here for a long time.
djemma
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Angel with horns
Quote: djemma

I sent it to everyone who asked. If you have not received it, write in a personal.
I have nothing.
Annaconda
Good evening to all gurus)))
I wrote in the next branch, but I will continue here, because this one is definitely more suitable. I am collecting kitchen assistants. A mixer and a meat grinder are most needed.
The girls, I read you, decided that I want Kenwood, 020 or 010. And now I am so confused. On the official website, everything is so different, until we figured out how all these Kenwoods differ. Any KMM, KMC, etc.
I was looking for good prices in the network, I got Kenwood KMM770 Major Premier for 32,000 rubles. from attachments - blender, meat grinder, dough attachment, beater attachment.
It's cheap, but is it good? As I understand it, he has 2 slots - there is no medium-speed one. Is it really necessary? To harm, how many people love high-speed more ... How is it with nozzles - also a lot, like 010 and 020?
Help, hostesses. I would like to buy a loyal friend for the time being.
PS. and also got ANKARSRUM ORIGINAL ASSISTANT AKM6290 for 47,500 rubles. there are more than 10 attachments. Who can compare ASSISTANT and Kenwood? Who is better to take?
kseniya D
The 770 has less power than the 10 and 20, and there is no socket. Only one attachment, an AT647 food processor, is placed in this nest. All other attachments are the same for all machines. Only a sieve, an ice cream maker, a potato peeler differ in height, in 10 they are lower, in 20, respectively, higher. 10 and 20 differ from each other only in the volume of the bowl, so choose according to your requests. Up to 080 I had 560 (the same power as 770) and I had enough of both its power and its volume. I still can't get used to 80, it's too big for me.
Annaconda
kseniya D, Thank you. Bowl capacity - 6.7 L (like 080, as I understand it)
It turns out the power is lower and there is no nest. I already realized that this is a harvester, and I would like it ...
Eh, I'll have to look further, apparently ... especially since the seller does not have the exact article, but they promise a meat grinder, although at the office. site no Kenwood KMM770 Major Premier with meat grinder included ...
kseniya D
If you would like a harvester, you have to stop at 10 or 20. I also changed the car for this reason. I have such a freestanding harvester, but I want to free up space and buy an attachment for the car.
Vei
Quote: Annaconda
PS. and also got ANKARSRUM ORIGINAL ASSISTANT AKM6290 for 47,500 rubles. there are more than 10 attachments. Who can compare ASSISTANT and Kenwood? Who is better to take?
Anya, it all depends on the goals that you set for the car. Ankrasrum is more sharpened for yeast dough, there the dough itself is more from one bookmark and the kneading is fundamentally different. It is used by those who fanatically bake BREAD and for mini bakeries. There are additional nozzles, but in order to connect them, the unit itself must be put on its side, which is heavy (the machine is heavy) and takes up a lot of space. It was I who wrote the disadvantages that my friend voiced to me, who bakes sourdough bread every day and in large quantities, and who bought herself ankarsrum. And yes, you still need to adapt to it and learn how to knead bread in it. Without this, nothing will work out right away, only you will be disappointed. But then you will still learn)))

I did not take this unit for myself, but stopped at 020 kenwood, because I primarily have confectionery (biscuits, gingerbread, creams, fillings) and in large quantities, I needed a large bowl for beating. And in Ankarsrum for whipping, a separate bowl for only 3 liters with separate whisks. In general, this option is not the main one. This is the only reason why I didn’t take it, although it suits me better for gingerbread, since his main bowl is larger.
Annaconda
Vei, Elizabeth, nope, then Ankastrum is not for me, thank you for describing it so well.I'm not a fanatic of bread, I also bake more sweets and I’m unlikely to convert to bread and yeast dough. I rather need an emphasis on the mixer, but add. I also want nozzles so as not to take separate machines for everything later.
I figured out the Kenwoods now, too, 020 I want for sure, but I also consider 770.
kseniya D, I do not think that I will cry very much for the combine if there is a high-speed grater-slicer ... Well, I will still understand the nozzle topic.
kseniya D
Anna, of course. everyone chooses for themselves. But I use the harvester much more often when I have a high-speed grater. Cut a salad, make a streusel, shortcrust pastry, and much more ...
3do4ki
Annaconda,
Definitely need to take 010 or 020 in my opinion.
Depends on the number of family members. The rest is all a compromise.
And induction can be replaced with a milk cooker for 1500.
And that's just my opinion.
And take 020 only if you really need large volumes. 010 is much more pleasant to use for a small family. 020 is heavy.

Vei,
I fanatically bake bread and only sourdough.
020 and 010 coped with this task with a bang.
Well yeast dough after rye is generally pop.
3do4ki
Of course, I get used to 020 definitely gradually, but it's not at all clear to me why 020, if it's a small family.
2 volumes from all standard recipes in 010 mix well.
And I already have 3-4 often. 2 is the minimum portion in my case.
And this despite the fact that I bake bread every 3 days. We eat it very well. Especially with your oil
cuckoo
Quote: kseniya D

Anna, of course. everyone chooses for themselves. But I use the harvester much more often when I have a high-speed grater. Cut a salad, make a streusel, shortcrust pastry, and much more ...
Ksyusha shortbread turns out worse in large?
kseniya D
No, not worse. It’s reluctant to simply wash this huge bowl by hand, it didn’t unfold like a man in the sink, and in the dishwasher it takes up half a basket, and the bowl of the combine with all the accessories takes up much less space.
Vei
Quote: kseniya D
I use the harvester much more often when I have a high-speed grater. Cut a salad, make a streusel, shortcrust pastry, and much more
and I do not like such nozzles-graters at all, since I do not like grinding in bowls. I have a truth, in principle, a lot of different techniques, sometimes duplicating each other's functions with small variations. But I never craved this attachment.
Quote: 3do4ki
it is not at all clear to me why 020, if a small family.
2 volumes from all standard recipes in 010 mix well.
I have a small family, but 020 never seemed big to me. Perhaps because I do not bake so much bread as confectionery, and all this, when whipped, increases very much in volume that the bowl does not seem so big.
ps it is most convenient for me to wash in the PMM, everything is fine there with space, but the sink also works fine.
kseniya D
Quote: Vei
I don't like grating attachments at all, since I don't like grinding in bowls
So I say, to each his own.

Quote: Vei
It is most convenient for me to wash in the PMM, everything is fine there with a place
I have a 45 cm typewriter and in the lower basket, almost half of the space is occupied by a bowl, and of course, it does not fit into the upper basket, but from 560 at the top it freely stood up. Now that the second bowl has appeared, it has become much easier.
Lika2882
kseniya D, Ksenia, you urgently need to read this topic https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ion=com_smf&topic=27356.0
I used to scold myself for taking a narrow typewriter, but now I have a free space for sales !! You can still put a bunch of things under the keshino bucket ... And plates, and salad bowls, etc., look at the pictures !!
kseniya D
Lika2882, I'll go and read it. I don't scold myself because there is no more room. But you can probably put something under the bowl, but not after the rye dough. It happens that it is not washed immediately, especially if you stand waiting for the full load of the car.
Lika2882
That's just the point !! I also thought so that it would not be washed and all that - but no !! Not that after the dough, even after the meat soup (a bowl from a multicooker), it is perfectly washed ...At the bottom they put strip plates or soup plates and covered them with a pot on top! And lower the upper basket to the maximum and a bowl from the mulch will enter there, which will free up space below ... And put the mugs on top and so on, just then cover it with a pot again ... here ...
Nafludila off topic ... But she could not resist ... She herself suffered the same ...
Matilda_81
Girls, please tell me models 050 and 060 are they updated 010 and 020? Something I looked, looked, read, read, I do not see the difference.
Sorry if you have already discussed this issue.
Masinen
Matilda_81, yes, updated, there is now a timer !!
irysikf
Masha, there is no timer, there is an updated blender, such as in 094 and 096 (the knife was improved for better ice picking, teeth were added on it)
Matilda_81
And here's another, there are models KMM 025 and KMM 065 on the internet, I did not find one on the Kenwood office. What kind of beast is this?
kseniya D
I looked now, in general, 025 and 065 are no different. And both are one to one as 020. Timers are only in the 040s. They bred the digits, spice-up, to confuse us ...
irysikf
Ksyusha, they differ only in a blender with an improved knife.
kseniya D
Well, what for to stir up different numbers because of this. They would go to themselves with the old labeling and with new blenders and no one would be confused. Pests ...
irysikf
So this is also called a type of updated model. I was told in Kenwood that 10 and 13 will no longer be produced, instead of them there will be 50 and 53. But these are absolutely the same models, only the knives of the blenders are different.
3do4ki
Quote: Vei

I have a small family, but 020 never seemed big to me. Perhaps because I do not bake so much bread as confectionery, and all this, when whipped, increases very much in volume that the bowl does not seem so big.
ps it is most convenient for me to wash in the PMM, everything is fine there with space, but the sink also works fine.

apparently because they immediately got used to it, and I am in comparison. And for the pastry it is more than.

And in the fub-processor I do a lot of things - sweet cottage cheese, pates, sauces. And I don't use it as a grater. It's not enough for us. High speed usually. Today we ate 4 beets and 3 carrots in salads for dinner, and I also suck on a shashlik 250 ml.
Matilda_81
And I have not seen the 040th model in the vastness of Russia. Or sold?
And another question: is the new blender and the new harvester suitable for the 080/084/086 models?
cuckoo
Quote: 3do4ki

apparently because they immediately got used to it, and I am in comparison. And for the pastry it is more than.

And in the fub-processor I do a lot of things - sweet cottage cheese, pates, sauces. And I don't use it as a grater. It's not enough for us. High speed usually. Today we ate 4 beets and 3 carrots in salads for dinner, and I also suck on a shashlik 250 ml.
Julia, if you can please share the recipe for bread. My Mulenex bread maker does everything perfectly well, but the bread does not taste the same. I want to try kneading in a cache and baking in a bread maker.
kseniya D
Quote: Matilda_81
new harvester for 080/084/086 models fits
Harvester, which is also new now? The very old ones were without a handle on the bowl, now with a handle, and it seemed like another grater was added.
I think that their seats are the same for all models. The manufacturer does not indicate what is suitable for some specific models, which means it is compatible with all.
3do4ki
Quote: cuckoo

Julia, if you can please share the recipe for bread. My Mulenex bread maker does everything perfectly well, but the bread does not taste the same. I want to try kneading in a cache and baking in a bread maker.

I make sourdough in Kesh, and not HP only because of Teflon.
So knead quietly in HP once Teflon does not bother.

Alycha
I already wrote that I finally decided and bought 770 kenbuds, adding a meat grinder, dough sheeter, flex., High-speed cubes and graters. Flex cubes and graters have not yet received, and yesterday began to deal with the rest. She put cold yeast dough, full of delight, stirred the ready-made poppy filling with lemons, grated with sugar and crushed nuts (the filling is thick, you will stir it with a spoon). The next number was zucchini climbing.I kneaded the custard dumplings dough, and it’s necessary to roll it out: lol: So I tried for 10 minutes to pull out the plug for the dough roll (until I noticed the forelock at the bottom). Then for about 15 minutes before the silk I inserted the rolling stock (maybe if it hadn't been for 11 at night it would have gone faster), but I won it. Rolling is a thing. While she was rolling, the mixer stirred 5 grated zucchini with 2 eggs, 10 grams of grated cheese and 250 grams of cottage cheese. I collected climbing and while she was baking, I made a cookie that should be forgotten, but I also somehow tried to turn this thing on a whisk to lower it, it seemed like I lowered it, but 2 squirrels whipped up gorgeous, such proteins in my life did not work. And all these beaters can be washed in the dishwasher (I washed them with my hands, but you never know)? To say that I am happy is just to say nothing. I just think how I lived without him
Vei
Alycha, Ella, congratulations on your purchase!
Quote: Alycha
And all these beaters can be washed in the dishwasher (I washed them with my hands, but you never know)?
if I'm not mistaken, then for the 570 and 770 rows, the attachments are made of silumin, which can darken from the dishwasher. But it's better to look at the instructions. From my 020th, I wash absolutely everything in the PMM without consequences, including the cup.
Alycha
Thank you, there are no more questions, it is stainless steel, but if you wash the whisk from the oil, then maybe pour it into a bowl of hot water and soap and drive it for a couple of minutes in a moxer, and then rinse it. But I didn't find something in the instructions, probably I looked in the wrong place.
kolobok123
Alycha, Congratulations! And tell me please, can he also cut into cubes like Bosch?
I just don't have any harvester at all and my family is big, so I think ...
Would you recommend a typewriter?
Alycha
I haven't received any cubes yet, but in principle, yes, there is a nozzle for cubes, as far as I understand, the k20 model also has a harvester nozzle, but I also ordered graters for mine, and the harvester is old, and there is a good slaicer manual (it has a knife with three blades), and the graters are more convenient for me, you can rub as much as you want in the bowl and you don't need to empty the bowl every time (because of this, the cabbage is not rubbed in the combine). Overall, I am very happy. The difference between mine and 20 is only in one nest and the capacity is 1200 versus 1500. But that's enough for me. But the volume so you have to take a 6.7 cup. Yesterday I calmly kneaded the dough for 1.5 kilograms of flour. And it was still important for me that the stainless steel bowl was (there is a model the same but with a plastic bowl). Regarding Bosch, I know that I have a wickedness, she is very happy, but there is a smaller bowl, she does not bake bread, and kneads the dough by hand (she likes it better) so I don’t know. And a bunch of all kinds of nozzles.
kolobok123
Ella thanks. That is, it turns out that 20 is all the same only the power is higher?
vernisag
Quote: kolobok123
That is, it turns out that 20 is all the same only the power is higher?
No, there are no attachments (hook, whisks) in 020 made of stainless steel and one socket in 770 is not.
Masinen
By the way, this nest is only needed for the combine and for nothing else.
And stainless steel nozzles can be purchased separately. On my 560 I ordered stainless steel nozzles for my mother, from Helmania. 100 oiro))
kolobok123
Girls so in which there are still more options ???
And I hardly cook vinaigrette and Olivier in cubes ... With two jobs, you can't cut much for 5 adults.
I thought at first this cube Bosch.
And then I saw that Kenwood also had such a thing. Only he seems to be more than anyone can.
How is a kitchen machine different from a food processor? I will not understand in any way.
Violin
Masinen, well, if you look from the perspective, then who knows which nozzles Kenwood will have new and under which socket. It's good, of course, when you have everything. Well, here it is according to needs, of course. Someone does not need attachments at all, like a kneader and a mixer are used and that's it ...
vernisag
kolobok123, Natasha, now in Yulmart 084 is cheaper than 020 for 1000 rubles, 61890 rubles (2 columns each)
kolobok123
That is, there are two sockets in 20 and, accordingly, more than any nozzles?
kolobok123
Quote: vernisag

kolobok123, Natasha, now in Yulmart 084 is cheaper than 020 for 100 rubles, 61890 rubles (2 columns each)
Irin at such a total price of 100 rubles is not even serious.
Does this price include ALL attachments?
Masinen
kolobok123, for all Kenwoods, all nozzles are suitable, and this middle slot is for only one nozzle and many do not use this nozzle)
And so everything is the same
vernisag, Irish, 084 is a naked temtomes)
vernisag
Quote: Masinen
vernisag, Irish, 084 this is a naked temtomes)
Naked, but with induction. And five mixing attachments.
Masinen
Yeah, naked, but in expensive shorts, sorry)))
kolobok123
I looked at the yulmart. And he is a small volume.
Masha, how are they all different then? You can buy a naked motor and then buy different attachments for it.
I can't get that kind of money right away
kolobok123
Yyyyy such an interesting conversation and I have to go to Smolensk. The taxi rang back.
But I'll be back !!

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