olesya26
Lena, I'm sorry, it's good that the money was returned. As it is not pleasant, I know. The experience with the multicooker is negative. Good luck with your choice
afnsvjul
Olesya26, but what kind of ceiling can it be washed?
Veronka
Owners of little Klatroshi, help me with advice, I'm going to wash the windows, but I don't know how to do it in practice with a steam cleaner, according to the instructions, you need 2 nozzles at once, the main one for windows, and put on the main rag: umnik2: and then further like: girl_cray: something I'm in stupor .
If it's not difficult, then explain popularly what, how and why for stupid
Manna
Veronica, it is not necessary to wear a cloth on the main one ... In general, so ... if the glasses are not very dirty, then a glass nozzle (with an elastic band on the edge) will be enough. First, rinse the glass with steam, then run this nozzle with steam over the glass, and then carry it with the nozzle without supplying steam to remove moisture from the glass, wiping the gum every time with a cloth so as not to leave streaks. And if the glasses are stained, then first they can be washed / steamed with the main nozzle with a rag (or I even do it with a round nozzle), and then with a nozzle for glasses ... I don't know if I explained clearly
Veronka
Manna, thanks, very clear
olesya26
Quote: afnsvjul

Olesya26, but what kind of ceiling can it be washed?
Julia in the kitchen, the ceiling is made of very durable plastic wood. This ceiling played a major role in the purchase of a steam engine
I'm afraid to try in the MDF corridor.
natushka
Girls, well, finally yesterday they exchanged a steam cleaner for me (Karcher 1020). Today I tried it at work - a completely different matter. The steam goes in a stronger jet, although its temperature is not 100 degrees at all, the hand can be freely substituted and held, 0.5 liters of water was spent on cleaning the carpet. Another thing that surprised me now (maybe I'm too nitpicking?), I began to drain the remaining water, I had to turn it back and forth several times and still everything did not merge, it flounders inside about a quarter of a glass, in the surrendered it all merged at once I'll tell you one more moment may need someone. On March 8 (employers) gave a friend the same software, bought it in the Karcher service center, they did not open the box there (it was sealed in Germany), she opened it at home, everything is in place and the warranty with the software number (I didn’t have it in the box again), BUT there is no serial number on the software itself! I called where they bought it, they were very surprised and said keep the box
Now it seems to me that Germany, to help us with the Olympiad, has dropped all substandard software to Russia
gala10
natushkalet the new unit serve for a long time and trouble-free!
Alenka212
obando, I understand that increasing the budget for the purchase of any device is very difficult, but rewarding. If you are not in a hurry, then it is possible to collect the rest of the amount before buying Karcher. Still, about 3 thousand, and not 30 thousand. Of course, Karcher has failures, but rare. And besides, the service is excellent there.
I, too, hurried, bought it cheaper (well, I really got it). And here's the result: toil with a half-broken steam gun. The service is silent. And from the office. site replacement costs half of the unit itself. And now it is impossible to buy a new one (of another brand, more reliable).
You decide....
Alenka212
Hostesses, can the tinted glass of the shower stall be washed with a steam cleaner? Will the tinting be affected?
natushka

Quote: Alyonka212
Can the tinted glass of the shower stall be washed with a steam cleaner?
I got tinted in the bookcase and in the kitchen cabinet, I washed, everything is fine. It's not a sticker on top, but something was added to the glass itself during manufacture. Or is it different for you? Although in my kitchen. the door is glued with a film and I washed it (without fanaticism), too, everything is fine.
I am beautifull
Hello! I ask for advice. I have a Vitesse VS-330 steam cleaner. Can't open the top cover. Maybe I'm twisting it in the wrong direction? During unscrewing, should you press it? There is no steam inside and no water either. Thank you in advance.
Asya Klyachina
Quote: I am beautiful
I have a Vitesse VS-330 steam cleaner. Can't open the top cover.
I have the same little Monster in construction. In it, you first need to press the orange lid from top to bottom and hold it in this position to make 3-4 turns counterclockwise, then unscrew it without pressing, as usual. And you will close it in the reverse order: first, just screw it all the way, then press the lid and screw it all the way.
Alsss
Greetings to everyone, I accidentally stumbled upon your forum, the question arose of cleaning the carpet, the child will soon begin to crawl, I have mastered more than 70 pages in 2 days, thanks for the feedback ...
Today I ordered the software the choice was small, because there is no way to order the cracker, I chose between clathronic 3980 Cromax 801-803 or 901. The latter won. I ordered it in Yulmart. I was upset that they write that a flimsy pistol, but a set of nozzles Kromax Odyssey plus is also sold there, for the Q-9 model It seems that they are similar in drawing, they write what is suitable for the q-910. price 770 p. I hope he will cope with his task.
olaola1
I have a Kromax ODYSSEY Q-801. I bought it after reading the rave reviews of one of our forum users. I don't want to upset you, but .... I already wrote in this thread that I am very unhappy with my choice (inconvenient, non-maneuverable, huge size, a small round brush has become unusable, etc.). As time passed, I got even more negativity regarding this steam cleaner. I repeat that I use it very rarely, at most once a month. To date: the nozzle with a point nozzle has ceased to be attached, it flies out with a stream of steam and boiling water, it became impossible to wash the windows (water is pouring, there is practically no steam), the steam regulator has collapsed, all spare gaskets are out of order, the gun is very hot, rubbing dropsy on the palm ... Recently I decided to try cleaning the bathroom tiles with a metal brush, because the plastic brush turned into a disk after several uses and became completely useless. You will laugh, but after 2 minutes, metal the brush is worn off by a cone I am generally silent about steaming clothes. He didn’t steam off new clothes, but wet them, now it’s an ambush. No steam, boiling water. I admit that I was not lucky with my steam cleaner, while others are doing fine. But there are too many troubles, and this is already alarming. The choice is of course yours ... And I'm already thinking about buying Karcher.
Alsss
All in thought
My husband said she ordered to play with a toy, and if you like something with time, we'll buy it more seriously. In our city there is still the opportunity to order a cracker sc 3.00 but it is a little expensive 6990 r and it is not yet available, and cromahs will cost me 4320, and even on the site there is a set of basic nozzles and a pistol for 770 just don't know if it fits my model?

Total: I decided not to fool my head, I'll see ...
olaola1
For me, it's better to overpay and buy a worthwhile thing. And I have this steam generator like that suitcase without a handle - it's hard to carry, and it's a pity to leave. Of course, a steam generator is a very useful thing in the house. But hear me - Kromach is not the thing to buy. This is exclusively my opinion. Someone may have a different opinion, someone may be lucky and he is happy to use this particular PG.
olesya26
Olya what a horror, I can't even imagine why a steam cleaner is needed if it gives out boiling water instead of steam, after such an experience I probably wouldn't want any more, I sympathize, how unpleasant it is
olaola1
Olesya, of course, is unpleasant. But still, I'm thinking about buying Karcher. But I had a choice to buy Karcher in a store or Kromax in an online store. I decided to save a thousand rubles. since such great reviews here on the forum about Cromax. And here is the result ..... But negative experience is also an experience. Once again I was convinced that we are not rich enough to buy cheap things.
Ligra
I don’t understand what the advantages of Karcher over the Kromax Odyssey q-801 (802,803) are. If you read and compare the tetnic parameters, then they are even lower for Karcher, for example: 3.5 bar for Karcher and 8 bar for Kromax (with min-max adjustment), the steam supply temperature is also almost the same. Additional accessories can be purchased for Kromax as well.
gala10
Quote: Ligra
I don’t understand what the advantages of Karcher over the Kromax Odyssey q-801 (802,803) are.
Probably reliability.
Ligra
Here it is successful and many use Kromax, also a controversial argument; and unlike Karcher, the price is much less. And marriage occurs in any technique and any manufacturer (I often came across reviews not in favor of Karcher).
olaola1
Ligra, Just about, I also pecked at 8 bar. In my opinion, the pressure is almost the same as with Karcher, in any case, I did not notice much difference. The size of Karcher 2.00 is much smaller, the pistol is more convenient, etc. etc. I have something to compare with. At a friend of Karcher. She bought it later than I did after watching my torment with Kromax. If there was only one complaint I had, but when everything breaks down, does it mean something?
Alenka212
Alsss, frightened you completely. Not everything is so sad with Kromax. Hope to be friends. I also have 802nd. You have been warned that the attachments are breaking. Be careful with the steam gun itself. The main load on him when cleaning the carpet (I ruined mine like that). Warned. means armed. As for the rest, I don't quite agree with Olga.
I use it almost every weekend. My pistol doesn't get warm.
By function:
1. Most of all I like to clean the carpet from cat fluff, hair, etc.
2. Periodically clean the oven glass and gas. smoked fat stove. Only I do not use standard brushes, but a nozzle attachment and a sponge from Amway. (cited the report).
3. When cleaning windows, the nozzle does not like strong movements from side to side. We need to adapt so that it does not fly off. But I wash them according to my own method. I wash away the dirt with a cloth on the nozzle. Of course you have to wash it or have several, and then I wipe the frames and special glasses. a microfiber cloth for glass. The beauty.
4. With steaming you need to make friends. Actually, I bought 2 in1 because of the combination of functions. Then I even bought a steam brush after reading rave reviews. As stated steams light fabrics, mainly synthetics. Good where there are ruffles, ornaments. Steam should be made dry and pulled down. I also tried cotton steam, it turns out, but you need to increase the steam supply, respectively, then a more wet product is obtained. And the condensate must be drained. And iron faster. Therefore, now I have a steam station working in this field.
5. I also clean upholstered furniture periodically. The furniture nozzle is quite comfortable. I began to use a washing vacuum cleaner less often.
6. The floor is washed several times. But then I just bought a set for cleaning with a spin and now I rarely use a steam cleaner for the floor.
7. The curtains were steamed (veil). Quite comfortable, but I had to put it on the sofa to get it everywhere.
8. Assistant in the fight against children's leprosy: plasticine on the wallpaper, frozen chocolate on soft toys, clay on the carpet, etc., removes like all other models.
So it's not all that sad. I can't compare with Karcher for lack of, but maybe it's worth it, if possible, to pick up and buy Karcher easier, but so that there are no problems with the service. Sticky, when I finish this one, I will look at Karcher.
olaola1
Alenka212, I did not pursue the goal of scaring a person, but only to warn about this particular model of PG. What you wrote (about the benefits of GHG) applies to not specifically to Kromax, but to all steam generators in general. I also wrote that the PG is a very convenient thing, but this is only true if the PG is reliable, not as flimsy as this one... And the fact that the attachments and the gun breaks, you do not deny. This is exactly what I wrote about. It is very, very expensive to order nozzles instead of failed ones, one shipment is worth it.I will try to post a photo (as soon as I remember that I need to buy batteries) in order to clearly show everything that I wrote about.
Alenka212
It would be foolish to deny the shortcomings, but if it has already been ordered, then you will have to "be friends" with it. I listed what I was doing with it (I forgot about the bathroom) not at all for advertising, but so that Alsss, hands did not drop. She will need them. * JOKINGLY * And absolutely olaola1, I do not argue with you.
olaola1
Ligra
Dear owners of Karcher and Kromax (large), please tell us in more detail about the valve in the water tank: how well it closes (does it float) and other security systems of these units.
Alenka212
I had no problems with the valve (in Kromax 802-m), if you close it all the way. Once I did not tighten it (I decided to regret the gasket), the steam went out from under it. It's okay: turn it off, take the mitten and tighten it. We turn on and work.
olaola1
I also had no problems. But now the last gasket has collapsed, I don't know what I will do next.
olesya26
Quote: Ligra

Dear owners of Karcher and Kromax (large), please tell us in more detail about the valve in the water tank: how well it closes (does it float) and other security systems of these units.
I have Karcher when I screw it up badly not all the way, there may be a little steam. Well, you cannot open it immediately hot, it is blocked. When the water in the tank runs out, the red lamp no longer turns on.
Veronka
Girls who have a little Klatrosh, I ask for advice on how to clean the sofa, in more detail if possible
Galana
Hello everybody!
I read the entire Temka from cover to cover, and decided to buy a bigger steam pipe (initially I thought to take a small one). And now she became the happy owner of Karcher 1020. At first, she enthusiastically set about cleaning all the dirt in the house))) but the more I steamed, the more I get upset ...
I ask the owners of this unit for advice: in my opinion, the steam does not come out hot enough, you can safely hold your hand at a distance of 5 cm from the point nozzle, and if you put your own microfiber cloth on the hand nozzle, then the steam is generally barely noticeable (((Greasy spots on the apron by the stove has to be scrubbed with great effort and several times, and very quickly the rags with which I wipe behind the steam cleaner get wet ... The windows also do not steam immediately, I have to steam it several times before all the manual bloopers and dots are washed off ... I read on the forum that building dirt on plastic window sills washes well, but it didn't work out for me, as a result I cleaned it with a melamine sponge (((Should I start sounding the alarm and carry it back to the store for exchange until 2 weeks have passed , or is it all like that?
Asya Klyachina
It's hard to say what you have with the steam, sometimes you just need to let the steam form properly, for this to release steam not constantly, but intermittently, the area was steamed, while you scrub it, the steam cleaner heats up, the pressure rises there. And I immediately threw all these rags attached. The windows, and indeed everything, I just steam with a point nozzle and then wipe with disposable napkins that are sold in rolls, the napkin got dirty and wet, I just threw it away and tore a new napkin from the roll. These wipes are very convenient and inexpensive. I am now buying in Mega "KlinOk", a composition of one viscose, they absorb better than with polyester. These napkins are made in a hole, 120 r. one hundred pieces per roll. But in general, the steam should not be constantly so cold that you can hold your hand at the nozzle.
Alenka212
I have a declared steam of 98 degrees in Kromax (less than in Karcher) and it burns if you substitute your hand ... When steaming clothes, you can't do without a mitten ...
natushka
Quote: Galana
in my opinion, the steam does not come out hot enough, you can safely hold your hand at a distance of 5 cm from the point nozzle, and if you put your own microfiber cloth on the hand nozzle, then the steam is generally barely noticeable ((
That's right! I measured with a thermometer - the steam at the exit from the nozzle was 60 degrees, measured at several people. The hand does not burn. All recently purchased.Maybe they threw off all substandard goods in Russia under the brand name "Sochi 2014", I don't know. I asked store managers about the declared temperature of 135 degrees, they replied that this is in the tank, at the exit 90, and why do we need it inside, but they do not give 90
Galana
Thank you girls. I called the Karcher hotline, they offered me to fill the tank by 2/3. I'll try, of course, but if it doesn't help, I'll go to Castorama to make a claim
natushka
Quote: Galana
offered to fill the tank by 2/3.
Already tested - temperature 80
Galana
Quote: natushka
Already tested - temperature 80
Here bastards bad people
natushka, and you in the SC did not address this problem? What do they say about this?
When I took it to Castorama, it was not checked there, they said 2 weeks are given at home for a check. Only now they are unlikely to want to return the money. I just felt it. originally wanted to take 1030 with an iron, only the official Karcher store did not work, I had to take what I found ...
natushka
Quote: Galana
and you in the SC did not address this problem?
So this is already replaced, it looks like they are all the same for this batch (the first one was defective, the water leaked out strongly, I wrote earlier).
Galana
Now I tried to fill only half of the tank. I held the toys in my hands and calmly treated them with steam, never burned anywhere .... The toilet lid was also not cleaned. Well, I'll have to go to the store tomorrow to hand it over
Alenka212
In business! And I thought to spit on my Kromax and Karcher buy save for Karcher .....
olesya26
Quote: Galana

Now I tried to fill in only half of the tank I held the toys in my hands and calmly treated them with steam, never burned anywhere .... The toilet lid also failed to be cleaned. Well, I'll have to go to the store tomorrow to hand it over
Girls, I don’t know how it doesn’t burn with you, you can get a burn if you put your hand under the nozzle.
Manna
Here a lot depends on the distance - the steam cools down pretty quickly with every cm from the nozzle
olesya26
Manna agrees I was cleaning the kitchen corner, so the rag I wiped after the nozzle was hot
dopleta
My Karcher 1.020 - burns, really.
olesya26
Larissa
Galana
So I sounded the alarm, because I have to burn it anyway. We'll have to fight the store for a refund. There are three children at home, and three dogs, there will be more than enough work for the steam machine, so I want a high-quality unit, otherwise it seems to be of no use, only 5 and a half thousand thrown out for another useless toy ...
marisabelka
I also have a Karcher 1020, I even burned my leg nearby, and the hose is very hot
love-apple
I want to order Karcher SC 1020. Steam cleaner.
and here such reviews appeared: girl-q: tell me to buy or not?
here on this site is a list of stores where they sell fakes. Maybe someone does not work well for a fake?

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