Playful
I bought in a German known internet store in January for 8000 r at that rate, but the rate was higher than now

And what about high-quality, low-quality equipment, it is now a lottery everywhere, whether it is a brand or a budget segment. I am happy with my Bomanchik, and he and Klatronic are like twins, only Bomann is coming for Germany.
Vei
On Thursday, April 2, in Stockmann, within the framework of the Crazy Days campaign, the Dough Mixer / Kenwood K-mix kitchen machine in yellow and red colors will be sold for 16,900 rubles.

Mirabel
Well, finally, I am also at the kneader!
decided to support a local manufacturer, Domo dough mixer arrived the day before yesterday
Here's one!
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Not very huge, not noisy, powerful. The insides are metallic, beautiful and elegant!
I was already kneading the dough in it. I liked it very much!
Immediately there were questions - if the recipe does not indicate how much and at what speed should the dough be kneaded onto bread rolls? And for dumplings noodles?
kirch
Vika, congratulations on your good helper. It looks solid and the power is good. Let it serve long and regularly. The main thing is to stand on the table.
Mirabel
kirchThank you very much, Lyudochka!
Ninelle
Mirabel, congratulations, so handsome
Mirabel
NinelleThank you! He seemed beautiful to me too
Umka
Mirabel, Victoria, you are right - handsome and elegant !!! I think that he will please you very much !!!
irman
Vika, congratulations on the kneader! Finally, the agony of choice is over, let it work for a long time and not break.
Matilda_81
Vika, congratulations on your new assistant! Advice to you and a lyuboff and an airy biscuit !!!!
Eugeniya1979
Mirabel, Congratulations on your purchase! the instructions for my kneader indicate a speed of 1-2 for heavy bread dough. mix 10 min maximum
julia_bb
Mirabel, at last! Heartiest congratulations
We are waiting for detailed reviews and impressions))
Mirabel
Irina, Gulnara, Evgeniya, Yulia,
Devulechki! Thank you so much! finallyzz ... you can startovercoming a new milestonechoosing and buying a new Wishlist.
julia_bb
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Catherine
Good day!
If you do not mind, please recommend a car. Once or twice a week I bake sourdough bread, knead it thoroughly "with my hands" - I don't have enough strength. I decided it's time to take an assistant!
From the wishes: to knead well the bread dough with a volume of at least 1 kg, to whip the minced meat for the ham; was stable and did not make much noise, looked pretty, and cost at least thousands up to 20, well, the edge up to 25 (which, as I understand it, at the current rates is generally the most difficult attainable criterion).
Olga VB
Catherine, read or at least flip through the topic for at least the last year.
There are many recommendations here with a discussion of nuances. Perhaps something will resonate with you.
Catherine
Olga, thanks for the indifference I read, now my head is a complete mess ... I hoped, suddenly asking a direct question, I can get an answer that will solve my problem

In fact, the main problem for a beginner is the lack of structuredness of this topic: on one page of "useful" information with the characteristics of a particular car, there are three pages of discussion of the terms of purchase, delivery, etc. (don't get me wrong, I'm not in In no case do I condemn this and do not urge to stop it - on the contrary, within the framework of the global topic on kitchen machines, this is useful and important; I simply explain why, even after carefully reading the last 30 pages of the topic, it is still difficult to quickly highlight the necessary information).

For example, I realized that Clatronic (and Bomann) are not suitable for me, because there are a lot of reviews about defective goods, and the price of these units is no longer such that I would like to take risks (I am not ready, having given 15 thousand rubles, to receive only probability to have a good kneader - I want some guarantees).
Bosch MUM I like it visually, and the reviews are not bad, but I doubt it about it, because just recently I became the owner of several positions of other Bosch kitchen appliances, and I formed the following impressions about it: the outer "beauty" is combined with some flimsy and dubious materials and solutions from the inside ... Now, in principle, I decided to treat Bosch much more attentively, since I had already "met him by his clothes" once.
Kitchen aid - in my opinion, the thing is just offensive. Why in the states, on the same Amazon, one of the models costs 150-200 dollars, while in Europe the same model costs 500-600 euros? It seems that the European version will fit me on a budget, but it's just a shame for me to buy at an exorbitant price what is actually much cheaper - correct if I got it wrong somewhere in the calculations. There is no desire to take the American version, because you do not want to spoil the appearance of the kitchen with a huge and terrible transformer.
As a result, inclined towards Kenwood, but having opened a specialized topic, in which there is no structure for 200 pages and also there is no structure, and there is also slang that is understandable only to the owners of Kenwoods, I somehow completely became sad, and threw a cry for help here ...
Umka
Catherine, Ekaterina, read and take a closer look at this Handsome Electrolux EKM4200 Kitchen Assistent Kitchen machine ... I really appreciate it. But I have him as the First assistant in my life, so I can't compare with Kesha or Aired ...
Matilda_81
Catherine, take Kenwood. You can see a new one, you can search for used ones. Here at the Flea Market, the girls offered Kesha without induction for normal money. but if Kenwood is a little expensive, I would take a closer look at Proficook, it seems that the reviews on it were quite good. but if you choose between the two, then Kenwood, of course. Yes, expensive, but worth it.
Ninelle
Catherine, to be honest about Boshi - news for me ... My husband, when unpacking PMM Bosch, a purebred German woman, was wildly delighted even with how it was packed, he said a lot about this, but the sacramental phrase was as follows: "How we defeated them in '45, if she even packs the dishwasher SO! Even the wooden blocks-stands are adjusted to the millimeter, sanded and marked!" And I have several units of Boshevsk technique, I like absolutely everything. And by the way, I am also tormented by the problem of choosing a kneader. I rush between Kenwood and Bosch, but I look at everything ...
Catherine
Matilda_81, thanks for the recommendation! Does it make sense to consider Kenwood Prospero and other "junior" models, or is there not enough power?

Ninelle, we have a Boshi oven and hob. I cannot say that I am directly unhappy, but from the little things like a dim light bulb in the oven that shines only from one corner, "dead" and inaccurate knobs, etc., I got the following impression. Perhaps this is all simple compared to the previous oven, which seemed to be made more solidly.
Let's "rush" together about the kneader?
Matilda_81
Quote: Catherine
Matilda_81, thanks for the recommendation! Does it make sense to consider Kenwood Prospero and other "junior" models, or is there not enough power?
if you mix sourdough bread from a kilo of flour, then it seems to me better to consider the Chef and Major series. In general, judging by the reviews, those who bake a lot and are engaged in cake making tend to the Kenwood model 010 - a small volume and 020 - a large bowl. in my opinion, if you do not need induction, this is a win-win option. I myself have recently acquired Innokenty with induction 080, I am satisfied to the point of a pig squeal. The only drawback is its high price, but when you unpack the boxes, you keep all the components in handles, you understand why it costs so much. My husband and I walk around him and stroke
Ninelle
Catherine, here's me and the Bosch oven (just a beast machine) and the first hob was Bosch, combined, I still can't forgive where I broke the surface! Let's, together! Well, I’m for any intercourse, (if it’s legal), for!
Ninelle
Catherine, if Kesha is needed without induction, Masha-Masinen advised Kesha to me, it seems 770, he was in the Metro on Varshavka about 20 thousand, I don't know if he is there now and at such a price, but SUDDENLY ?! I'm still dreaming about Innokenty ... By the way, apparently I'm not the only one who called him that)))
Tanyusha
Umka19, but how your machine works, quietly or like a tractor. I have a GASTRORAG, I do not use it due to the fact that the sound annoys me very much, it works like a tractor.
Matilda_81
Quote: Ninelle
By the way, apparently I'm not the only one who called him that)))
well, so while in the picture he seems to be like Kesha, but when you see and feel him in reality, he is a real Major Innocent
Ninelle
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well, so while in the picture he seems to be like Kesha, but when you see and feel him in reality, he is a real Major Innocent
her ... Then it is definitely necessary to take induction .. Because Keshei is called the Karcher steam cleaner. What do you cook in Innokenty?
Catherine
Matilda_81, Ninelle, I really don't need induction in this device format - there is an induction multicooker, but here you need to thoroughly mix
On the Metro website I see only 760 Kenwood for 33,000 rubles.
Ninelle
Catherine, Katya (is it okay to use this?), Are you far from this store? Can you pass? It's just that Varshavka is far from me, but in ours they are dear. Or ask in the Chat topic, or What, where, when to buy from girls in Moscow, maybe they saw, or maybe they are going there and look.
Catherine
Ninelle,
I'm not there either, but they now have a website with an online catalog, which seems to be quite believable ... I think they ended there (
Umka
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works like a tractor
Tanyusha, I have nothing to compare with, but definitely not like a tractor :-) Since I am an owl in my lifestyle, I just close the door to the kitchen and create, and everyone at home is asleep (we rent an apartment). Therefore, I think that not much ... And since we have a lot of Electrolux at home (only the assembly of all the equipment was in Sweden, it is already over 12 years old, but I think that they also followed the Chinese assembly), so I bought this car ... How would it be
Rita
Quote: Tanyusha

Umka19, but how your machine works, quietly or like a tractor. I have a GASTRORAG, I do not use it due to the fact that the sound annoys me very much, it works like a tractor.
Kesha is also very noisy. KitchenAid is much quieter.
Matilda_81
Quote: Ninelle
What do you cook in Innokenty?
Ninelle, I have it recently, a week. what they did: biscuit, bread, semolina, oatmeal. a salad was cut with a food processor. In the summer I plan to wipe the berries and make jam. so I want a rubbing attachment and a berry press. but the first in the plans is a pasta maker.
Olga VB
Well you know Catherine, there is no structure in your request either: "to knead a bread dough with a volume of at least 1 kg, to whip up the minced meat for the ham; it was stable and did not make much noise, looked pretty, and cost at least thousands up to 20, well, the edge up to 25"
Any planetary mixer will cope with your task of dough and minced meat, regarding stability, as there is always a load at which the CM will want to jump or at least ride around the table.
Strong noise is also not a criterion, more important is the timbre of the noise, and "strong" is everyone has their own relative perception. Besides, it still depends on how it is installed and on what. Everything on my rug sounds very nice.
And there is no point in arguing about beauty at all.
Here's the price, that's specific.
In addition, it is not clear whether you only need the functions of the kneader or and additional. attachments may be needed over time.
By the way, ProfiCook is not on your list yet. Look also.
I also solved this problem for myself a couple of years ago, and until I went around with my "final" solution several times, I also could not make a choice.
As a result, I had to increase my purchase budget very, very significantly.
So, as long as you do not suffer precisely your unit, someone else's opinion will not be decisive for you.
And about Boman and Clathronic ...
Although it seems to be the same thing, there are occasional reports of breakdowns about Klatronic, but I don’t remember about Boman.
So I, for example, if I was not interested in additional. nozzles, I would have bought a metal Bomann-kneader, and if the induction had not been funded for me, I would have taken a Bomann with heating.
Matilda_81
Quote: Olga VB
By the way, ProfiCook is not on your list yet. Look also.
Quote: Olga VB
And about Boman and Clathronic ...
Although it seems to be the same thing, there are occasional reports of breakdowns about Klatronic, but I don’t remember about Boman.
So I, for example, if I was not interested in additional. nozzles, I would have bought a metal Bomann-kneader, and if the induction had not been funded for me, I would have taken a Bomann with heating.
similarly !!!
Mirabel
Catherine, I would advise my Domo, it meets all your requests and costs a very low budget, 200 euros, but, in my opinion, it is not in Russia.
Playful
Well, as the owner of Bomann could not resist not to write, it was too contradictory post. The taste of the color, of course, the markers are different, everything is known in comparison and is limited only by the amount in your wallet, because marriage is present in any model, be it Boman or Kenwood ...
Tatoshenka
Oksana, I also have a Boman with (heated). I am very pleased with them and it is a little offensive that they are so scolded. Great car. Kneads any dough. Kulichi with Myasoedovskaya kneads for the same time as in the recipe. He works for me almost daily.
Cifra
Catherine, but don't you consider used equipment?
I'm still going to sell my bomann 362, but my hands do not reach to photograph. I used it a little, it is not going to break. If they had not presented a new one, I would have used it with pleasure.
Playful
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Oksana, I also have a Boman with (heated). He works for me almost daily.
And then, he is still a hard worker. Now baking in the form of cakes is no longer on holidays, but every week I bake something new ... Well, it's not even worth talking about ham and dough for dumplings ... And on Myasoedovsky kulich I arranged an exam for him, passed with ease :)
Lennochek
Girls, who knows what about this unit or Rohaus RM910S? I found it on the market, the power is good, but I have never even heard of such a company. The price is not high.
vatruska
Lennochek, from the video it looks like the thing is good, but 24 thousand can be called a low price ...
batek
Help please, I need a kneader for a heavy dough, which ones are suitable, money is limited:
Bosch MUM 54240,
Moulinex QA 407G31,
Kenwood KM 353,
Bosch MUM 4855,
Bosch MUM 4406,
Clatronic KM 3400
Lennochek
vatruska, I agree, although in comparison with expensive Kenwoods it already seems not so expensive :) But I found a car that I really wanted - Bosch from the MUMXL series, I like everything about it, but the price is not very friendly :)
vatruska
LennochekOlga VB is now in the subject of food processors gave a link to kenwood with a discount
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the price, when compared with the Rohaus RM910S, is quite suitable and the firm is proven, like the store ... look, maybe you will find your Boshik there at an affordable price?
batek
Tell me, is the 900 watt Kenwood enough for a tight dough or better than the Bosch MUM 54240 Styline? Or take BOMANN KM 370 CB and not suffer?
Olga VB
Bomann is a good choice if you only need a kneader. This model is completely metal, users praise it.
As for the power: I personally took the harvester more powerful because of the meat grinder, for the test such a lot of power is not needed.
On the other hand, if the dough is very steep (for noodles, dumplings, etc.), then it is better to use a processor or mixer, that is, knead it with knives, not a hook.
batek
Thank you, I will buy BOMANN KM 370 then.
batek
Maybe you know which is the best online store to buy?
Olga VB
Rummage through the tyrnet, including imported ones.
Only if you are offered a similar clathronic instead of him and said that this is the same, do not agree.
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