ilkva
I am writing in this thread, maybe the girl who wrote to me in a personal will see here, maybe, her mailbox is full and no messages are sent.
shuskaZelmer is happy with a meat grinder, a small price and works fine for this money. I tried different meat and it was frozen and no, I twisted everything. The model seems to be called Symbio, power 1400, there are still shredders, I tried them too, I especially liked the small one, instantly grinded potatoes onto potato pancakes.
NataliaK
shade, ilkva
Thank you very much for your posts about Zelmer meat grinders. I got it today! It stands in the box next to it, and I keep looking at it, but ... all the cash was invested in it, so only in a couple of days I can feel the full joy of being pretty. At the stand there was a decent number of representatives of different Brands, but a couple of Zelmer 986.84 and 986.83 (purchased by me) seemed to look more elegant against the background of others Another dream came true and ... As I understood, the most painful place is the plastic adapter, that there is even a spare in the kit ... Please tell me if you have already encountered a replacement? or, with careful use, it just warms the thought that there is a spare wheel
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
NataliyaK -
spinning meat and not only for half a year already - quite actively
a spare tire pah-pah-pah was not needed although we shove any meat along with veins and cartilage
at first, they seemed to be careful and then they thought, well, the adapter was scattered, and the figs with him are worth 230 rubles
but so far glory to the creator \ zelmer I mean \ works properly

NataliaK
shade, Thank you! It's a pleasure to read your review! I will hope for long-term cooperation with the sympathizers!
Guylechka
Hello! I came to visit you for advice, because I wanted to buy this Zelmer meat grinder with all the bells and whistles, but I watched the video test and now I am Levayus ...: mda: I have Bosch in stock (for 7 years), it works well, but not there was a grater in it, and then my mother needed a meat grinder, so I decided - I’ll give Bosch to my mother, and I’ll take a Zelmer with bells and whistles for myself, and after watching the video she seemed so flimsy to me, and even this spare part ... In general, I don’t know. .. Tell, pl., Who has what kind of meat grinder with graters: girl_red: and are there graters that make the cubes?
nut
Buy Gammu better for yourself - there are different graters and a lot of other things, and the meat grinder is generally a beast, and my Zelmer mixer is a complete disappointment, I personally, and many girls like it
Guylechka
Thank you, Oreshek! I also have a mixer for 2 months, so far nothing, but the plastic there, to put it mildly, is lousy ...
Guylechka
It turned out that everything is not so simple - in Ukraine there are only industrial meat grinders Gamma ...
Ukka
Guylechka, well, here are the Gamma kitchen grinders in Ukraine

Gamma-7-01
7 attachments:
- for chopping meat
- vegetable cutter for cutting and shredding vegetables, fruits, cheese and nuts (3 types of cutting)
- for cooking meat of the "beef-stroganov" type
- for grinding coffee
- for profiling shortcrust pastry for cookies
- for profiling dumplings
- for stuffing sausages

You can additionally order an attachment-auger juicer
I also have Gamma, though I ordered it at the plant in Lepse (Russia) through a friend ...
Luysia
ukka, show-tell, and what is it beef stroganoff attachment for cooking meat?
Ukka
Luysia, in the photo from the link that I gave above you can see this attachment, if you enlarge the photo ... there is a grill for a meat grinder in a row in the middle of a disc with large holes. She cuts the meat into pieces.
I have not tested only the sausage stuffing nozzle, I haven’t had a chance yet ...
I have tested everything else and use it all the time, except for the dumplings attachment ... Nonsense when there is a dough box ...
I'm terribly happy with the meat grinder and all the other nozzles !!!
I would have ordered a canned food opener on occasion ...
Luysia
ukka, that plastic tube with a cone, for stuffing sausages, I have a similar one, but I just wanted to see exactly what a nozzle for cooking meat of the "beef-stroganoff" type is.

I have a similar meat grinder "Rotor" (made in Cherkassy during a stagnant period).
Guylechka
ukka, wow! which class! Thank you! Tomorrow I will call and torment the sellers and order myself such a tsatsu! I just typed in the search engine "meat grinder Gamma" and the Internet gave me a bunch of industrial sites, I honestly reviewed one page and was upset - I decided that we do not have them ... And I saw the Rotor before and wanted to order, but people already, you see , saw through this business and bought up these meat grinders, so they are not available or expected ...
Guylechka
I ordered a Gammu for myself - a complete set + a juicer, I prepaid UAH 891, now I will wait for news from Ukrposhta. I want to say that they "greeted" me quite warmly - they told me for a long time, explained what and how, transferred the money yesterday at 17-30, today they called me back and say. people I said that I had already sent it, thanked for the trust, in general, I am very pleased with the communication, I think I will be tsatsky too!
If I get a meat grinder, I will unsubscribe, but even in the picture she inspired me with confidence, so ... fundamental. ..
Thanks for the recommendations
Delait
I am waiting for your feedback with the Gamma meat grinder! how is she to you? Are you satisfied?
Vafelka
I have a Gamma grinder. I am very pleased with the meat grinder itself, and the grater, and especially the mill (it is with the millstones). It's so hard to find now
rusja
NataliaK
also before buying a Zelmer with graters and juicers a year ago, I read a lot of anti-reviews in the internet, but still I bought it and I am ABSOLUTELY SATISFIED with the purchase !! I tried it repeatedly on all modes and functions, everything is OK. It just seems to me that this is an anti-marketing move of competitors. You can safely take it and use it with pleasure!
Delait
What's your Gamma model? I am interested in how she grinds meat, onions and other products, otherwise I read some reviews on other meat grinders, they write that she squeezes out, not grinds, sometimes you can not grind anything except meat !!!!!
I have a Brown harvester, it grinds meat, sometimes into a paste, if you overexpose it a little, or it doesn't interrupt everything, but I just want a meat grinder, what would be in small pieces, just not squeezing! I am tormented by what to take.
I also looked at Brown and Selmer, while I am looking closely at Gamma ...
sazalexter
I have been using Panasonic for more than a year, the beast is a machine, it can handle even "problem" meat. And inside it is iron ...
Guylechka
Well, I got here with my report on Gamma. The meat grinder is a beast, and this also applies to work and sound! The meat grinds well, without crushing and screams like a victim, my Boshevskaya is much quieter! I ran in the graters - ok, although I think this is pampering, my Pro V grater copes with everything without problems, moreover, with a bunch of cutting methods, and in Gamma there are three drums - slices, a fine and coarse grater, and I wanted there were also bars for "fries" In general, I really wanted to, but now I realized that for good reason I hadn’t tried the Miller and the juicer yet ...
CRALKA
Quote: sazalexter

I have been using Panasonic for more than a year, the beast is a machine, it can handle even "problem" meat. And inside it is iron ...
Great meat grinder! : Victory: I am 7 years old ... and I use it every other day.
Eleanor
In general, I also came up with a report on meat grinders. It so happened that again a couple of months ago I incorrectly inserted the metal part of the meat grinder into the block with the motor. Therefore, I, my Brown, began to stand at an angle of 30 degrees.of course, I'm wrong, the meat grinder is almost 10 years old, maybe a little more, there was the same breakdown about 5 years ago, I took it to the workshop, there were no problems with the repair, but the winding in the workshops to hand over, then to get it ..... Has she tried working for me in such a "tilted" state ...works like a cute one, but very inconvenient, because the pusher has to push at an angle, well, in general ..... I decided to change it. Well, and up to the heap I decided to take another machine for myself, because mine is about 5 thousand for today, which is not normal in my opinion. And the situation developed in such a way that I also had to buy a meat grinder as a gift. So I bought two different firms. One, for a gift, Redmond, so all stylish, powerful, black and very cute. For myself, I chose Mystery, who is 3000 W. We tried both. The person who received the meat grinder as a gift is very pleased, he slowly grinds his meat so that there is minced meat in the freezer.
my impressions of both. Redmond - no, in general, you can admire it only after a mechanical iron piece that was screwed to the table. Horror! The knife is incomprehensible and the grates are also made of metal, which turns black after washing. The meat has to be pushed into the crater with wild efforts. At the end of the grinding, during the harvest, in the area of ​​the knife, pieces of meat are found, namely meat, and not lived, which simply did not scroll. Impressions are sharply negative.
Impressed by this result, I took out my new 3000 volt Mystery and started testing it. Impressions are also negative, despite its semi-space appearance: a shiny metal case, impressive dimensions, 2 speeds, a reverse button, a special screw (not a screw, but a screw) on the side to strengthen the metal grinder itself, impressive, really impressive dimensions of the vents and gratings, 30 percent more than other meat grinders.
In general, the fastening - why do this with a screw, I don't understand, in Brown I just clicked this case and that's it. The knife is not impressive, but depressing with its frightening external monster-like appearance, until you push the meat grinder itself into the unit, you go crazy, because there not only the screw must go in, but also some two holes coincide. Takes places - mom do not cry! The grilles also rust and darken after washing. It is necessary to push with effort, for which I also cannot understand 2 speeds, because at the first speed it does not grind at all. after grinding, during disassembly, large pieces of meat were also found near the knife, which did not pass through the grates.

In general, it is my own fault, I will change, buy myself a new Brown and enjoy life.
lunova-moskalenko
Hello everyone! Girls who have Gamma, tell us more about the models (which are symbols and letters). How to use? And you are not confused by its power. I looked at them on the website, there are different capacities. I want to take it, but which one I can't decide. give advice, pliz!
Guylechka
I have a Gamma-7-01 power of 220W. Melet everything - specially left the veins and scrolled separately for the sake of interest - normal! But also noisy, however, I already wrote about it. And as for the power, I will say this, as clever people explained to me: here is the power that is declared in the imported models - it is a little incorrect, that is, the manufacturers are lying, 1000-1500W is the power of a good puncher, and the Gamma manufacturers honestly indicate power. Also, you will call the online store, there is such a talkative uncle - he will tell you everything!
lunova-moskalenko
Thank you! I put it on this very eye. I understand that it has more than all the different attachments. Then on Monday I'll call and order. And then I still use the old (still grandmother's) meat grinder or combine, well, I don't like the minced meat in it! Thanks again for the story.
Crust
Please tell me if there are good grinders in the harvester set. It is very necessary to combine the functions of a kneader + a meat grinder. If discussed somewhere, post a link.
francevna
Good evening, members of the forum.
Thank you very much for your feedback on meat grinders. I watched and compared on the video. Bought Zelmer. The set includes a juicer, 3 shredders (fine, medium and slices) and a grater. I made juice from tomatoes, if for drinking, the juice is good, but there is a lot of waste, and for adjika I had to skip the tomatoes, grind them in a meat grinder.The carrots on the shredder turned out great, the cucumbers were thin, even slices, and the potatoes were instantly grated on a grater. The pancakes turned out to be excellent.
Vilara
a question about the kebbe nozzle. I noticed that now many meat grinders have such a nozzle in the kit. Can someone tell you how to use it and if it works. I do not understand how sausage can be stuffed
Here lyubochka asked two pages earlier, but no one answered
Do we have kebab lovers here?
Delait
Well, here I am ready to buy, I ordered Gamma -2, that is, more powerful than 7.01, this is after talking with my uncle on the phone, he advised me to take this one. I can imagine how noisy she will be

By the way, this is the thread that influenced my choice, thanks for the feedback!
Guylechka
And this uncle dissuaded me from a more powerful one, saying that this model is almost industrial, like "why do you need this, you will not grind 10 kg of meat for 10 kg!" But I'm not offended, although she "yells", she does her job well and, by the way, recently I had to grind about 5 kg of meat - everything very quickly and without problems, did not have time to load pieces into the tray! And the grilles from a mechanical meat grinder fit there and, if anything, it will be easy and inexpensive to find spare parts for it! So, congratulations on your purchase, it seems to me that you and I made the right choice!
Delait
Quote: Guylechka

And this uncle dissuaded me from a more powerful one, saying that this model is almost industrial, like "why do you need this, you will not grind 10 kg of meat for 10 kg!" But I'm not offended, although she "yells", she does her job well and, by the way, recently I had to grind about 5 kg of meat - everything very quickly and without problems, did not have time to load pieces into the tray! And the grilles from a mechanical meat grinder fit there and, if anything, it will be easy and inexpensive to find spare parts for it! So, congratulations on your purchase, it seems to me that you and I made the right choice!
At first I wanted to even take it without graters, like yours, because there is a combine, but when I told him under what conditions I would operate, then he suggested taking this one, we just buy a whole pig every 3-4 months, t that is, you need to immediately and at a time make a lot of minced meat, twist the lard into lard, it turns out that I will use it with a load, and not twist 2-3 kg a week, therefore, from here and his advice is, just unsubscribe how and what on the trail. I ordered a pig for a week, I'll check it at work
Delait
Well, I tried my new meat grinder at work, this is something, I made 3 kg of meat in THREE MINUTES !!!!! I was shocked, and the meat was with veins, layers of fat and films (leftovers, I don’t know what to do with them), that is, not the best, my harvester would definitely “reject” half. You just can't even compare the quality of minced meat from a meat grinder and a combine !!! Now I'm looking for recipes with minced meat, if there are proven ones, give me a reference so that I wouldn't feed my family with cutlets alone.Three nets pleased me in the kit, small, medium large., There were also drums for vegetables, but I haven't tried it yet
Conclusion: it's worth taking, Gamma = 2 really works great
Guylechka
I tried all the graters and it was all over, why do I need them? ... maybe later, someday I will use it, but I didn't even take out the juicer and coffee grinder from the packaging, I immediately put it on the top shelf. And the meat, yes, grinds perfectly - through a large grate it generally turns out like chopped.
dreamer
I came to this topic for help in choosing a new meat grinder, and after reading the rave reviews on the gamma meat grinder, I could not resist answering. Now I am looking for a reliable meat grinder to replace the latter. Gamma, the most powerful, semi-production, the name is too lazy to go to look, but in principle, they have not yet been thrown out - I can see it, I ordered lepse directly from the plant a year ago. The service pleased me, the receipt was sent by e-mail, paid through the bank, sent quickly. And although the speed switch broke on the very first day (it began to work "vice versa", at zero - the maximum speed, on the second, maximum shutdown) - I was impressed by the cutting of meat.She ground any meat, and quickly !!! By the way, someone asked, everything else in the minced meat (they turned onions, potatoes, bread and even carrots into cauldrons sometimes) with a bang !!! We were incredibly happy, but even then I did not recommend it to my friends due to a broken switch and ... completely inconvenient (for me!) Graters. One of them is simply not suitable for work - a grater for a shredder, on the cabbage its cutting petals immediately "bent", tried to repair - Two others cut, or rather tinder, BUT the design is such that the plastic pusher touches the grater itself (well, when, for example, a carrot is rubbed off to the end) and the finished product with plastic crumb is in the bowl. Probably, I just had something to compare with. My old Bosch combine performs similar types of shredder-grater without any complaints, I immediately appreciated my old friend.
Well, this is all nit-picking. It was important for me that the meat was ground, in the end, the graters could be discarded altogether, for that kind of money ... BUT she ground the meat for only 2 meat. No, it still works in principle, but HOW Everything crumples, clogs, does not push, does not spin ... Grind 2 kg of meat for cutlets plus additives in minced meat - 40 minutes. The last time they did not even want to wash it after work, but immediately into the bag - and to the door, to be thrown away, but they left it so far, it seems a pity. First you need to buy a new one
vichka strawberry
I have a brown triumph, or a year and a half, or two and a half, no complaints, beast-machine. Of the incidents, only one, but WHAT)))))) - I decided to push the fried onion with a tefal spatula ... I opened the tools for two hours, the knife inside broke (in the service, for my luck, they were on sale), so they bought a new knife and it is back in service, it is written that it processes 3 kg / minute, of course, but a kilogram and a half for cutlets takes 5 minutes together with onions and bread.
Delait
Dreamer, it's a pity that you were so "lucky" with your Gamma, and why didn't you immediately return it, after all, under warranty ??? Very strange...

I will not say anything, she has very little time for me, but so far I make minced meat every day, 3 kg per day (today my mother asked me to make minced meat for her), then only positive points, by the way, today they processed 30 kg of carrots on it, for The largest grater for freezing was done very quickly, faster than I did it on the Brown combine. And there is much less waste. Although I took mine solely for the sake of a meat grinder, here, like in any technique, a bad apparatus can be caught ...
dreamer
Quote: Delait

why didn’t you return it right away, because under warranty ??? Very strange...

Delait, re-read my first message carefully: I wrote that I had ordered the range directly from the factory (at that time there was no such model in online stores, but I needed it, with a double cutting element). How was it to be returned? There were no complaints about the quality of meat cutting. The first time ... Although they cut everything and also a lot. Although, of course, not every day for 3 kg I already wrote about graters, for me this is not an option. Actually, I don’t want to argue with anyone - since you like using the range, use it for health. When I was choosing an electric meat grinder a year ago, I wanted to take Kenwood, because I did not find any bad reviews on it, but I was EXPENSIVE, sorry for the money. Bad reviews, of which there were a LOT in scale, (as well as good ones, by the way) did not stop me, I hoped for the best. As the saying goes, the miser pays twice! Now the choice is between the Kenwood and Panasonic meat grinder. There is MV Panasonic, which we all are VERY happy with, which the children have already dropped on the tiled floor by pulling the cord, but everything is OK. On the other hand, Kenwood is also praised ... Owners of Panasonic and Kenwood meat grinders, please help to make a choice. We need an apparatus for processing poultry meat, as well as ordinary pork and beef with veins (not tenderloin). And so that it would be possible to scroll potatoes, carrots, onions, bread into the cutlets.
Delait
Quote: link = topic = 6745.0 date = 1320766459

Re-read my first message carefully: I wrote that I ordered the range directly from the factory (at that time there was no such model in internet stores, but I needed it, with a double cutting element). How was it to be returned?
I read it carefully, but forgive me, what is the difference between a DIRECT manufacturer and an Internet store? You obviously got a Marriage that needed to be changed and they would have done it. I work in the field of trade and the laws are the same for everyone ..... I will not argue with you, I was just outraged by the situation itself, the breakdown on the second day and no action.
Guylechka
Delait! I completely agree with you, there is even less hassle with the factory, in the sense that the store usually sends the buyer to the service, and the manufacturer himself fixes his jambs.
kosmar
I want to ask, can someone tell me: I have a Mulinex ME611B3E meat grinder, there is a piece for cookies. I haven't tried it yet.
please tell me: what kind of dough it should be? then it is necessary to roll it out or not (just something very small)? can you do pasta? how does it wash afterwards?
as a meat grinder I use about 1-2 times a month, everything suits. I did not use the sausage attachment
I often use graters: I always rub cheese (and everything that is in small quantities is more convenient to wash.if a lot with a combine)
dreamer
Quote: Delait

breakdown on the second day and no action.
To be honest, at first there was a desire to change. I didn’t even doubt the success. But it was necessary to send it back, then receive it again. The switch is TOO much hassle. I repeat: she ground the meat perfectly. Perhaps you would have acted differently on mine, but I do not think that a new machine would grind with high quality for longer. There are too many bad reviews, and the car itself has everything done, well, how to put it mildly - ill-considered, there are many annoying flaws, which I have already partially mentioned. So, no offense to the owners of the gamut and fans of domestic industrial products will generally be told that gamma is a weak, uncomfortable, unreliable machine. Maybe over time it will be finalized, but so far like this. I am writing this exclusively for those who choose, what if my experience is useful to someone.
And I also have a question for all owners of electric meat grinders, and especially of the range, have no one faced the problem of sharpening knives? In search of a new car, I read reviews and came across information that sometimes a meat grinder starts to crush meat with blunt knives. I would like to learn more HOW to sharpen them, what if my range can be reanimated?!? Help who knows. I would be grateful for the answer
Guylechka
Knife sharpening, of course, is done, well, at least here in Odessa, on Privoz, look at the market in your city, there should be such small workshops in which knives, scissors, etc. are sharpened in the same place, and this nonsense ... And you can also buy a special disc for sharpening meat grinder knives, also on the market, ask around.
And about repairs, et yeah, laziness-mother, she herself, it's easier for me to throw out and buy a new one than to get involved with repairs, and even if I need to send somewhere
Luysia
I’ll only give you a tip, since I didn’t do it myself. Instead of a lattice, a special abrasive plate is placed in the shape of the lattice. The meat grinder is turned on in idle for a while and thus the knife is sharpened.

Ask around where you sell spare knives and grinder grates (usually small hardware stores or market stalls). For example, take both a knife and a grate with you. It might just be easier to buy a new knife if you can find the right one.

And if the meat tears and squeezes, and does not grind, then it is, for sure, dull knives.

If that consolates you, then I think that this problem can be solved more easily than if the engine is dead.
Guylechka
That's exactly what I had in mind - a disc made of abrasive, I bought one for a mechanical meat grinder, they definitely are in the markets.
dreamer
Quote: Luysia

If that consolates you, then I think that this problem can be solved more easily than if the engine is dead.
Wow! Consolation, of course !!! A new toad smothers to buy, because the range as a meat grinder suited me!
Girls, Guylechka, Luysia, thank you very much !!! I'll run to look for an ethno device. And we can really sell knives ... Suddenly it will turn out
Delait
I tested my Gamma with a load! We bought a wild boar and the meat grinder helped us VERY MUCH, they made a bunch of minced meat from the scraps, they passed all the bacon in a meat grinder and drowned it on lard !!!! We will eat so much lard, and the lard is slowly diverging ...

We've never done it this fast !!! The husband is delighted with her work, she makes a noise, but this is all nonsense, she ground two buckets of bacon very quickly and nothing wrapped around the knives.
I'm happy with my choice, let's see how often we have to sharpen knives!
Guylechka
I say - it works like a beast and yells the same way! Good luck with your new assistant!
dreamer
Quote: Guylechka

Dreamer! Here is a site with s / h for meat grinders, look!
Thank you! Probably, you really have to change the knives or take them to the workshop. It is not yet possible to sharpen it on my own ... She continues to crush the meat. The term of her "brutal" service with us took only a few months, however, I did not think about the quality of the meat: cutlets from the tenderloin are not in our honor.
dreamer
Guylechka, was at this link, but it's in UKRAINE, and I'm in the Moscow region ... Although in appearance my EM's knives are the same! I already think we can contact the factory again to buy these knives from them. They react quickly, they can be done in just 2 weeks. Take a couple of sets at once, so that it will last for a long time, well, and then take them to the workshop immediately in bulk, it will be cheaper!
Guylechka
Yeah, see how easy it is. As for the plant, yes, you have it in Russia, so you will get your own parts and, I think, even cheaper than ours.

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