Coffee machine

We are already mastering 2 days ... The taste differs from the coffee that we used to make by brewing ground coffee in a cup with boiling water. But 180 ml for our person, this is not a volume It will not be enough

But they gave us this !!!! We master

Congratulations!!! Urrah !!! Our regiment has arrived !!!

Hello Ritochka You brought me straight into a complete stupor What does it mean "a lot of water is consumed" It does not go anywhere for me, I cook first and second courses on it, well, of course, we only drink it, and the dishes are washed from a regular tap Or is it a joke

Irisha, hello!
We ourselves are in complete shock! We noticed that the sewage system is filling up quickly (after all, it is not centralized here). The husband decided to check, disconnected the waste water drainage hose, and it turned out that the mining was almost seven times higher! That's it...

So which coffee is better?

Girls, I went to read the reviews and came across this one.The tank is full, I went over to drink some water. drank. and the filter pours a whole bucket into the sewer to replenish half a liter of water. counters are, and generally not humane! And I also have counters. : girl_cray: And my husband also says that this pleasure is water-consuming, so to speak.

So Rituel, I'm not catching up with something. It turns out that the water is leaving by itself? I just asked mine, he said that somewhere in the system the tightness was broken and water flows into the sewer. We have water meters and it is immediately visible when the taps are turned off, the wheel does not spin either. Rita, he said to check the pipe that goes down the drain. and if there is a leak, then a noise will be heard in the tank all the time - check

So which coffee is better?

they are absolutely different! Tasty and that, and that!

Irina, my husband talked to the seller of this system, he answered the same, the water consumption is exactly the same. So the Aquaphor system is not very good, the Geyser is better. Now we will think and solve this issue, but we definitely need to drink clean water.
Irish, do you have a system with a drive? We have a system with a 5 liter tank for filtered water.

For girls, osmosis has the following principle, in order to filter out a liter of water, a few more (I don't remember exactly how much, you can easily find the info if you wish) drains into the sewer. For those who have counters, IMHO is not critical. The consumption for washing / washing, etc. is much higher than for drinking water. And only those who have no sewage can be felt. Mineralizer, IMHO, from the category of a mapping move. Such water is suitable only for drinking, for cooking, it is not suitable for a kettle or a coffee maker, since everything turns into scale. Do you just drink a lot of water from the filter? In principle, all 5-stage osmosis is approximately the same and the price for them is also close. Therefore, choose the one that will be easier for you to maintain, since the cartridges need to be changed regularly and better, so that the service is close at hand and the prices of consumables do not bite.

hello, please tell me how to change the degree of grinding? the instructions say that when the coffee machine is on? What is it like? click on the preparation (on the cup, and turn this key?
I bought it, so I didn't change the settings, for me this is too strong coffee, stands in the middle, you need to set less or more grind, so that the coffee consumption is less and not so strong)? I have Saeko Xmaill

I think it means plugged into an outlet and the "On" button, and not started for cooking. I wouldn't go into the grind myself. Grinding will not affect consumption in any way, IMHO, and if the coffee is strong, then you can choose the weakest in strength (in my Talea there are 3 options for Mild, Medium, Strong) and the largest in volume (I have Espresso, Aroma, Long), if still strong corny add water

I think it means plugged into the socket and the "On" button, and not started for cooking. I wouldn't go into the grind myself. Grinding will not affect consumption in any way, IMHO, and if the coffee is strong, then you can choose the weakest in strength (in my Talea there are 3 options for Mild, Medium, Strong) and the largest in volume (I have Espresso, Aroma, Long), if still strong corny add water

This should be looked at in the instructions, in mine, the robots of the coffee grinder need to be adjusted on time.

Thank you
and in mine it is written that during the operation of the coffee grinder, but it flies quickly, I can't imagine how it is

[the strength is influenced by the degree of grinding - the finer the grinding, the stronger the drink will be.]

hello, please tell me how to change the degree of grinding? the instructions say that when the coffee machine is on? What is it like? click on the preparation (on the cup, and turn this key?
I bought it, so I didn't change the settings, for me this is too strong coffee, it stands in the middle, you need to set less or more grind, so that the consumption of coffee is less and not so strong)? I have Saeko Xmaill

The amount of water can be adjusted. The more water, the lower the strength of the coffee. Also, the strength is influenced by the degree of grinding - the finer the grinding, the stronger the drink will be.

The strength of the drink largely depends on the degree of its roasting. Strongly roasted beans have less caffeine (while unroasted beans are caffeine-free).

If the coffee is too strong
Try making a single coffee (one press of a button), using a higher volume of water, or a coarser grind.

need to be done with a working coffee grinder?
In the direction of coarsening the grinding - not necessarily, in the direction of decreasing - on the working, so as not to damage the millstone.

(Everything is taken from the Internet) The settings itself did not change. So I'm no adviser. Sorry.

[the strength is influenced by the degree of grinding - the finer the grinding, the stronger the drink will be.]

The amount of water can be adjusted. The more water, the lower the strength of the coffee. Also, the strength is influenced by the degree of grinding - the finer the grinding, the stronger the drink will be.

The strength of the drink largely depends on the degree of its roasting. Strongly roasted beans have less caffeine (while unroasted beans are caffeine-free).

If the coffee is too strong
Try making a single coffee (one press of a button), using a higher volume of water, or a coarser grind.

need to be done with a working coffee grinder?
In the direction of coarsening the grinding - not necessarily, in the direction of decreasing - on the working, so as not to damage the millstones.

(Everything is taken from the Internet) The settings itself did not change. So I'm no adviser. Sorry.

Thank you so much. I realized

kosmar, everything is correct while the coffee grinder is running, everything is quickly rearranged, I have already set it up for myself, I have saeko sinthia.

thanks for the advice
I bought another coffee today (it ended) and I realized that it was the coffee itself that was bitter (maybe it's so roasted or I don't know the variety, in general I won't take this anymore). now I will not change the degree, even if the average grinding is worth it. the taste began to suit.

Good day ! To all residents of this forum. Firstly, I congratulate everyone on the holiday - Victory Day. I wish everyone a peaceful, clean and always sunny sky overhead. Well, now the main thing: I have been actively reading for more than two years, reviewing all the topics of the forum. What made me write for the first time, a painful choice of a coffee machine. I have a big family: four children, they are all old enough. Everyone has their own attachment to this drink. One with milk, one without caffeine, etc. The kitchen is large, there is a place. After reading your reviews, I also turned my attention to DeLongy 23.450. But sellers are actively discouraging this manufacturer. What do you say, what do you recommend? Thank you so much

Good day ! To all residents of this forum. Firstly, I congratulate everyone on the holiday - Victory Day. I wish everyone a peaceful, clean and always sunny sky overhead. Well, now the main thing: I have been actively reading for more than two years, reviewing all the topics of the forum. What made me write for the first time, a painful choice of a coffee machine. I have a big family: four children, they are all old enough. Everyone has their own attachment to this drink. One with milk, one without caffeine, etc. The kitchen is large, there is a place.After reading your reviews, I also turned my attention to DeLongy 23.450. But sellers are actively discouraging this manufacturer. What do you say, what do you recommend? Thank you so much

Tell me, why are they discouraged I have such a car and I am very happy

it'll be enough:
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Normal machine, you will be satisfied.

[Nanna]

Nanna I am also very interested to know why you are discouraged from such a wonderful acquisition ??? : pardon: I really like it and I'm happy with my choice, for this price. If I had more money, I would have bought the JURA brand.

Good evening! I was busy, I didn't see your questions right away. Dissuaded, because they consider this company not entirely reliable. The house of coffee in Ukraine does not sell the brand of these machines at all; in others, Juru and Siemens advised. Honestly, my head is spinning from all the reviews and opinions. The fact that salespeople in most stores have no information at all leads to complete confusion. The eldest daughter lives in Kiev, she chose a car for me there. At first they began to look at Cynthia Saeko, but the water tank was too small - so this option disappeared right away, and I want a full automatic machine. After reading your reviews, I realized that only thanks to you I can make the right choice. And yet, many sellers have an opinion about Delongy's very poor service and frequent breakdowns of this product.

Most importantly, you do not go to the prokof. ru, there you will quickly be convinced that real coffee is a horn, the correct coffee grinder, rather a boiler than a thermoblock, etc. They may be right, but this is all very good money, plus space in the kitchen, which is constantly lacking.

[Nanna]

Nanna based on what you write, there is no argument that this CM is bad. I highly recommend buying it. Well, or JURA.

[Nanna]

Nanna based on what you write, there is no argument that this CM is bad. I highly recommend buying it. Well, or JURA.

, about JURA I agree, I catch a buzz

Good afternoon, thank you for your answers. I visited the forum ixbt. , there is now actively promoting the 7 series of Siemens and Bosch. Which Juru model would you recommend? I found Delongy in our city in Comfi for 9 thousand 850 UAH, the seller looked, she is of Italian assembly. It's just that no one in our family repairs equipment, we will buy something new, and give the broken one to someone we know. I don't really want the CM to fail quickly, I won't get a new one right away. Sorry for the confusion

It's hard to say something, I'm not a fan of the coffee machines of these brands, before their quality was not very good, which I don't know with the 7 series, I didn't hold it in my hands. Try looking at reviews on 🔗 maybe something will clear up. On older models, there were a lot of complaints about temperature and grind. And for this amount, it's better to take 🔗

Good afternoon, thank you for your answers. I visited the forum ixbt. , there is now actively promoting the 7 series of Siemens and Bosch. Which Juru model would you recommend? I found Delongy in our city in Comfi for 9 thousand 850 UAH, the seller looked, she is of Italian assembly. It's just that no one in our family repairs equipment, we will buy something new, and give the broken one to someone we know. I don't really want the CM to fail quickly, I won't get a new one right away. Sorry for the confusion

And why are you so determined to break down the CM ??? It seems to be of high quality and if you handle it carefully (after reading the instructions), then damage is excluded. And JURA owners will definitely recommend a good CM. I have Delongy and studied the information about her before buying. But I know 100% that JURA produces very good coffee machines. Two acquaintances of this particular company are happy.

And why are you so determined to break down the CM ??? It seems to be of high quality and if you handle it carefully (after reading the instructions), then damage is excluded. And JURA owners will definitely recommend a good CM. I have Delongy and studied the information about her before buying. But I know 100% that JURA produces very good coffee machines. Two acquaintances of this particular company are happy.

Sorry for the pun, I might be the third

It's strange, without buying a CM yet, there is nothing in the mood for breaking the Eternal and any technique will someday order to live a long time

Don't be surprised where we live. very often turn off the light, this can happen in the afternoon, in the evening, that is, at any time. All modern technology is now equipped with sophisticated electronics, which often fail. It is she who is very difficult to repair. Thank you all for the advice, my daughter came from Kiev, we are going to buy Delonghi, although for some reason she likes Saeko Exprelia more. But then the children gave me every choice. Thanks also and good luck with everything.

I am not the owner of a coffee machine, but a big dreamer about her purchases, I constantly study reviews, articles and opinions. my conclusion: look for Juru or Saeco.

[makabusha]

Oh makabusha I am also a big dreamer KM. I lean more towards Saeco.

Sometimes it seems to me that the patience to wait for extra money for such a coffee machine as Saeko or Zhura will not be enough for me and in a nervous fit I will buy myself a cheap Chinese ... there are a lot of them now ... at least 15 bars, at least 19 (and I've seen this!) .. after all, my Chinese bakery is probably no worse than any cool one ... and suddenly a coffee machine ... because I still drink coffee very simply brewed (sometimes even steamed, not brewed ..) ..

Nooo, I want a nice car. If you take that thing. I love ristretto, but for now I'm making coffee in a geyser.

Sometimes it seems to me that the patience to wait for extra money for such a coffee machine as Saeko or Zhura will not be enough for me and in a nervous fit I will buy myself a cheap Chinese ... there are a lot of them now ... at least 15 bars, at least 19 (and I've seen this!) .. after all, my Chinese bakery is probably no worse than any cool one ... and suddenly a coffee machine ... because I still drink coffee very simply brewed (sometimes even steamed, not brewed ..) ..

I would not take such hasty steps, you better be patient, it will be rewarded. as a compromise, better take this 🔗

I have never used the geyser for a purely psychological reason - they once scalded me with boiling water from such a thing, the wound did not heal for a long time, there was a stain on my leg. and bypass her ... you have to overcome yourself ...)))))))))))))

and I didn't buy anything from ebey .. with my mania to buy a bunch of everything ... it's just scary to master it ..))

at one time I was considering the opportunity to buy a coffee machine from illegal customs confiscated .. the handles were very itchy from the good prices ... but it was necessary to organize a "left" receipt or check to somehow provide myself with a guarantee .. without a guarantee, I think it is not worth buying a coffee machine. ...

I will say for myself, I took a used KM on ebay, and I am happy as an elephant, even if something breaks, a spare part can always be found and changed. And the savings came out very significant.

my husband gave me in December))) saeco primea ring plus, I'm ooooooochen happy !!!! just mega !!!!!!!!!!!! the coffee is delicious. I have both ground and grain.

before that I gave my mother a capsule dolce gusto for her birthday, fell for advertising, it's horror ... I don't care !!! coffee as slop. the first time they did it, they did it without instructions))) turned on the water supply and waited for a miracle that it would turn itself off, and figs there)))) the slops came out)))) the second time they measured it by eye))) but mlyn, eye I do not have a measuring device))) I know there when, for example, 150 ml of water will be shorter in a cup, with grief they made me coffee, for a test, and you drink it, and you feel some kind of powder on your teeth ...
two friends have such coffee makers, both are delighted, I don’t know, I was not impressed at all, attached to these capsules and it’s not clear what was in those capsules.

[sergN]

I will say for myself, I took used CMs on ebay, and I am happy as an elephant, even if something breaks, a spare part can always be found and changed. And the savings came out very significant.

sergN, and what is your CM?

[sergN]

sergN, and what is your CM?

JURA Impressa F50

JURA Impressa F50

Oh, what a beauty! (y) I really liked it. How long have you chosen KM? And why exactly she? Would it be interesting to compare the taste of coffee made in Jura and Delongy?

[Saeco talea ring plus]

And they gave me such a coffee machine ...

Saeco talea ring plus

[Luysia]

Luysia the present is just super!

[Luysia]

Luysia Congratulations . Do you like the car? And tell me the instruction is in Russian, who is the manufacturer? And is it possible to cook ristretto in it?

[Luysia]

Luysia , Congratulations! I have the same only without Plus, i.e. there is no milk jug. How I love her - a car

[Luysia]

Luysia Congratulations . Do you like the car? And tell me the instruction is in Russian, who is the manufacturer? And is it possible to cook ristretto in it?

I am not Luysia, but I can answer. Instructions in Russian are given separately, not very good print quality, but they are on the network, somewhere at the beginning of the topic they gave me a link. Ristretto, as I understand it, is coffee in the amount of a thimble, strength, what knocks down? Then perhaps by forcibly reducing the amount of water in the espresso. The strongest here is the strong espresso.
Here is the instruction 🔗

I have not figured out all the intricacies yet, but I know that you can set in the settings the amount of ml of water for different types of coffee and get that very strong "thimble".

I also really like everything so far. A comrade who is related to this technique chose the machine. So he said that this is one of the most reliable, unkillable coffee machines.

[tatjanka]

Oh, what a beauty! (y) I really liked it. How long have you chosen KM? And why exactly she? Would it be interesting to compare the taste of coffee made in Jura and Delongy?

I chose not very long from 2 weeks, but to catch a decent lot it took 2 months. Unfortunately, CMs are becoming more and more "automatic" every year.
Well, let's say the delongues are a little easier, and less settings in which to rummage, not so, they are more poppier or something. e.g. Delongues ECAM 23.450 so-called Choice of coffee taste
Ultralight
Light
Classical
Strong
Super strong
but nowhere is there a line about the amount of coffee that is ground.
I will conduct a parallel between Saeco Royal Prof - Jura F50 - Jura S9
Jura has programming for one brewing cycle from 5 to 16 grams.
Saeco Royal Prof. from 6 to 9 grams, it all depends on the moisture content of the grain.
If you pour 16 grams of ground coffee at Saeco, the result will be on your invoice from the service center.
The programming is significantly different. But they make coffee using the same technology.
Probably all the difference is that this is a grain sensor, it is not critical.
Heated cups, the F50 does not.
And perhaps the most important thing is the dosing in the gramme of coffee, S9 can put any amount of coffee from 5 to 16 per cup.
The F50 has simplified it, such as press once for coffee, MILD, press Normal twice, and press Strong three times.
Each press touches the grinder operating time. that is, the F50 has three options for gramme coffee, the S9 ranging from 5 -6 -7 - 8 - 9 - 10 -11 - 12 - 13 -14 - 15 - 16 grams.
That is, you choose the strength of the drink to your taste.
The F50 is a 2004 model, and the S9 One Touch is a 2008 model. But jura is overpriced. That's why I looked used.
Saeks have a bottleneck - electronics, for example, let's take the model given above - Talea Ring, users often push the central button (which threatens to replace the entire sensor).
From Saeco - Royal Prof is out of competition, but dimensions.
tatjanka between our Location: distance th.

I also bought a used coffee machine and am very happy with it.
And it is not at all necessary to buy on ibey, you can simply search in Google - I will buy such and such a used coffee machine, and for 200-300 USD. e. get a great thing. Of course, there is a risk of buying an unsuccessful and too used one, but I'm tired of waiting for extra money, and everything that is being sold now is very unreliable (according to the reviews of friends from the service), so I chose the most indestructible and easily repairable Saeko Royal, but at the last moment I caught the eye of Saeko Magic in excellent condition for $ 250 That is, I took it and do not regret it, especially since it is identical to Royal.
I can also advise one of the non-killable, but smaller in size and cheaper than Saeko Viena.
Enjoy your coffee, everyone.