Coffee machine

I buy "Merry Milkman" selected, or "Prostokvashino" selected. The filter is dead, I also pour it after Aquaphor

As an experiment, I tried a variety of milk. The best thin (for coffee art - I tried to master it) foam with a bright creamy taste I got from ultra-pasteurized milk of 2.5% fat content. In general, six percent milk is whipped. The main thing is that the milk itself is fresh and tasty.
The problem with water quality was solved by a stationary three-stage filter, which is a separate tap in the kitchen with drinking water.

And I like Valio the most ...

Rina05, if it's not difficult for you, give me a link to a filter like yours. write its full number

I want to buy a coffee machine, I started with a small Wishlist, now my desires are growing.
At first I thought I could do without the bells and whistles without an auto cappuccino machine, but now I'm thinking a lot, maybe I need a car?
How are they in service - do they both need to be washed after use?
And if I want to make kakava with froth (but I just have to indulge in cappuccino), then the auto cappuccino will not help me? He probably only pours foam into coffee?
Maybe then I can get by with an inexpensive coffee machine and a glass like this?
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but this already turns out to be 2 devices.

The tests were successful: wow: I made cappuccino and espresso (y) I am delighted with the typewriter Thank you girls for advice and help in choosing: flowers: I used Lavazza in a yellow pack

Nut! happy debut for you! I have an Aquaphor trio like this, but I must add that in our area the water is already quite clean. (I live in a protected area) 🔗
But for water in megacities with heavy pollution, the reverse osmosis system is highly praised and considered the most modern. Type in a search engine and you will find answers to all questions.

kollyuba! ABOUT! As I understand you! how I myself was tormented by the problem of choice, shoveled the Internet and eventually bought what was in M-Vidio, the cheapest at the time of purchase, that's my story. and over time I only fall more and more in love with my typewriter. I in no way detract from the advantages of other machines and other manufacturers, but in Delongy this is the system
CRF
The unique CRF system (Compactness, Reliability, Freshness) - in which the patented preparation system - Tubeless is applied, the brewing unit at the moment of grinding rises directly to the grinder, and takes freshly ground coffee directly, without using pipes or funnels. The pre-wetting process is also carried out there, so that always fresh, flawless coffee is obtained.
And from this it follows that no special tablets are needed to clean the car. It is only necessary to carry out decalcification from time to time (the machine will signal this), as in other machines.
Car maintenance is very simple and does not take much time. The machine rinses itself.
There is no auto cappuccino in my car. This device makes the car almost twice as expensive. And he is not needed in my family. THIS amount of milk is not used.
I prepare latte macchiato very simply and quickly. My way is this. In the glass in which I will serve coffee, I whisk with a cappuccinator 50-60 ml. milk (the amount may be different, depending on the desire) then turn off the steam function (by pressing the corresponding button) I bleed off the steam, simultaneously rinsing the cappuccinatore (I add another glass) and cooling the machine, since the machine will not brew coffee immediately after frothing milk it takes time to cool down.And then the buttons lit up that the machine is ready to brew coffee, I put a glass with whipped milk and press the button for making coffee (having previously adjusted the coffee strength to taste for a specific eater (drink)
The machine brews the coffee through the milk froth onto the milk layer below. It turns out a beautiful three-layer drink. And all
I wrote for a very long time, but turn around, everything is being prepared within 2-3 minutes. If you need to cook several servings, then first I whisk the required number of servings (glasses) of milk, cool and rinse the cappuccinatore, then cook one after another, because two glasses do not fit next to me. (there is a function for preparing 2 portions in the machine.
Somehow like this.
my Coffee machine DeLonghi Caffe VENEZIA

Rina05, thanks for your feedback.
Tell me, does the milk take a long time to whip? And how long does it take for the machine to cool down to make coffee after frothing.
Just the other day I was at Gorbushka, where a consultant told me that only Saeko can get wet, and Delonga, like, even during preparation, not the whole tablet is wetted, that is, coffee is used empty.
Oh, these experts, they are a little knowledgeable in everything and only confuse.

I also read somewhere (it seems, in Saeko's instructions) that the taste of coffee does not depend on the type. That's in my opinion complete nonsense. Maybe the translators translated it wrong.

kollyubak! The milk is whipped for less than a minute, then about a minute still needs to be warmed up, that is, lower the tip of the cappuccino maker almost to the bottom of the glass. When whipping, the tip must be lowered well, literally by millimeters into milk. When you cook it a couple of times, it becomes clear how everything is happening and just by the sound you can determine what is happening. Again, I repeat - everything is described for a long time and tediously and seems complicated. Everything is very simple. the machine cools down itself for 2-3 minutes and will automatically switch to the readiness to prepare (I apologize for the taftology) coffee. But you can speed up this moment by simply bleeding off the steam from the cappuccino maker, waiting for boiling water to appear and thereby rinsing the cappuccinatore. Only this should be done in another container so as not to get stuck and not pouring water into the pan again and wash the cappuccinator outside. on the car, at the moment when it cools down, the indicators flash. Stop blinking - ready to cook.
And when the machine moistens the coffee from the side it looks like this. They put the cup down, pressed the corresponding button - the machine "rumbled-growled", that is, the coffee ground has warmed up and moistened the coffee at that moment a small amount of coffee dripped into the cup and after two or three seconds (well, maybe more, it did not stand with a stopwatch) the liquid appeared again, first of a dark color, then lighter. The cup contains aromatic coffee with excellent froth. When using the machine for the first time, several cups of coffee may not suit the consumer (as the manufacturer writes), the coffee grind needs to be adjusted. We didn't. We left all the factory settings. Everything was good the first time.

the "correct" tablets after making coffee. These are pills that are not wet, but moist and do not crumble, but break. In my container for collection, they are all round, even, when I throw them away, they do not crumble, but break.
Ask again how the consumer will tell, let the consultants correct it)))

that the taste of coffee does not depend on the type.

How much depends! I can only add to this (as a user, not a consultant) that the machine manages to make a good drink from not quite good coffee. to be more precise, it is not possible to brew an edible thing from this coffee in any other way!

Rina05, I already love your model Delongy
I thought of this - I'm buying a budget model of a coffee machine about 15 thousand,
I saw an old model of Saeco Spidem Villa in the turn, I will try to order it (there is little hope - it has been taken out of production and is found in few places - at the old prices)
Then I go to Gorbushka, watch Saeco Odea and DeLonghi ESAM 2200 Caffee venezia live. Probably, I will buy one of them.

I thought to take a closer look at the carob coffee makers, but I buy them

I read somewhere else and I was confused by the fact that coffee from a coffee machine does not have a diuretic effect. I wonder how this is - not all factions fall into the circle?

Rina05, I already love your model Delongy

Pleasantly!

Then I go to Gorbushka, watch Saeco Odea and DeLonghi ESAM 2200 Caffee venezia live. Probably, I will buy one of them.

Right! If I had initially such an opportunity, then I would have done it!

I thought to take a closer look at the carob coffee makers, but I buy them

Rohkovye, although cheaper, but a lot of trouble when making coffee with them! especially in the morning when every minute counts for me. nooo let the automation work better!

that coffee from a coffee machine does not have a diuretic effect.

in my opinion a diuretic effect of green tea
kollyubak! I wish to choose my machine as soon as possible !!! and finish these choices as soon as possible! and I'm ready to tell you something else!

I read somewhere else and I was confused by the fact that coffee from a coffee machine does not have a diuretic effect. I wonder how this is - not all factions fall into the circle?

Both automatic coffee machines and carob give us coffee, which is devoid of both diuretic and hypertensive (increasing blood pressure) properties.
IMHO: this is due to the extraction of the most aromatic components of coffee with superheated steam.

I experimented on myself with a carob coffee machine (coffee was ground by Davidoff and illy) and an automatic blood pressure meter (before and after a mug of coffee).
Neither pulse nor pressure changed, no diuretic effect was observed.

Then one day I tried half a cup of instant Chibo ...
And he received "... instead of a heart a fiery motor" (c).

[Kolyubyaka !!!!]

Kolyubyaka !!!!As a user of both coffee machines, I can say .... in my Delongee the tablet was perfectly shaped, but when it is dry, it is also not very good, it indicates too coarse grinding, but in Saeko it is wet, because when making cappuccino, the water it also merges into the compartment, which is nearby ..... besides, indeed, although Delongey declares, there is no preliminary wetting there, but there is in Saeko. I would still choose Saeko, although I really love Delongey too.

kollyubak! Also note how much space is required for the car. After all, she will not just stand. Every day (or every other day, depending on the amount of coffee consumed), you need to "look after" the machine, that is, you need to open and discard the waste and pour water into the container. in Saeko, this was not solved very well, in my opinion. All this needs to be done from the sides, which means the "dead zones" around the car increase. In Delongy everything can be done from the front, so to speak. Therefore, around the machine, according to the instructions, a vault space of only five cm is necessary.
Better in Delongy is the so-called warmer for cups. Well, it does not really heat up much (the metal plate is really warm only when several servings of coffee are prepared one after the other) ... BUT this is a separate area for cups, without any tricks, like in Saeko, which has a small depression, that is, if I put a wet cup (and I often do) the water will not get anywhere, will not flow anywhere. will dry out leaving a white circle, which is then easily wiped off with a towel in the evening when refueling the car.
And the grinding in the machine has 7 settings.

Girls, about the pills, did I understand the waste coffee at the bottom of the machine? I just climbed in and looked - there are 3 tablets, perfectly round and wet - is it normal or not

whisper - a nut, if you do not maniac about cappuccino, then Bosch is a good coffee machine.

great car!
and on top of it, a place for warming cups can be used as a place for the dough to come. any non-round shape up to 4L is put

nut! correctly they should be round and wet, and if you take it, they do not crumble, but break easily.Only, Oreshek, the machine counts how many portions of coffee it has prepared, and if you open and do not empty the container, the machine will start counting again and an overflow may occur and the infusion unit will react badly to this.

but in general, if the quality of coffee (the drink itself) suits, then there is nothing to bother about all sorts of pills there. I am in favor of spending as little time and effort as possible on the process of preparing something or getting a quality item!

Girls, tell me, it seems to me that the cappuccino turns out somehow wrong, that is, the froth is quite weak, the milk is good and chilled, as recommended in the passport, the regulator on the cappuccinator has already been set to 3, and the foam is height somewhere around 1cm. Today I went and bought milk 2.5% a house in the village, so it was just milk and poured into a cup In the internet I found an article where it is said and experimentally proven that the best foam is obtained from milk with high fat content and density. And I have both fatty and not very fatty - the result is not clear

nut! You have a cappuccino maker in your car, right? I don’t know how a car works, but my Delongy (without a car, what is the correct name there, the panarelo nozzle, in my opinion) beats any milk very well. Only the structure of the foam is different depending on the milk. 50 grams of milk triples.

I read somewhere that the foam can be whipped with a French press.
I couldn't find a description, I decided to try it, poured cold milk, fiddled with a piston a couple of times, and got excellent foam. And why didn't I know this rank earlier?
True, she quickly falls off. But the child drank kakava with pleasure.
The volume increases by 2-3 times. Milk 2.5%, buttermilk.

Now I poured milk into a 100ml container and turned on the milk frothing function, at the end of the production, as it was 100ml, it remained, poured it into a glass and turned on the cappuccino program, more milk was poured into the glass and then coffee - that's what happened - the foam is still small:

Girls, Aunt Basya - look at your cappuccino maker, does the tube reach the bottom of the jug close to it, or is there a visible gap? I have it close to the bottom, maybe this is the reason

Your Latte looks like it turned out: But the foam should be thick and high !!!! I picked up milk for Delongey for sooooo long and only 5% came up to me .... A little out of topic (I whisper) what a gorgeous oven you have !!!! I am absolutely delighted !!!!! And the brewhouse too !!!!
Yes, try to disassemble the cappuccino maker, maybe it just clogged .... or the tube is dirty or does not fit tightly ???? Well, that's me already ...

Thank you Zvezdochka I like it myself But is it possible to take 5% of milk: swoon: I take it on the farm and then there is 3.6% now, and in the summer I took out the cappuccinatore 4.2% - everything is clean, tomorrow I will try to beat the froth again, today the coffee is already opposed while the milk I tried to whip different things and added coffee (do not waste the good)

nut! The foam, as far as you can tell in the photo, is normal. If it is not enough, then it is probably the program that is in charge. But I have a different question. It seemed to me that the layers were mixed ahead of time. In the method of making macchiato I described, the layers do not mix for a very long time. Conducted the experiment coffee stood for 15 minutes without stirring and the foam did not fall off (practically) There was not enough time to wait Coffee was drunk.

I periodically read the ixbt forum on coffee machines and there a question was raised about foam here is the answer
In order for the milk to be whipped, it must contain protein. In Russian milk it is not more than 2.8%, and in Europe at least 3.2%. The real quality of our milk is disgusting, both natural and powdered, moreover, it is extremely unstable.
From what is sold in Moscow, "Parmalat" and Finnish "Valio" (pasteurized and sterilized), I don’t remember the name yet, are guaranteed to be whipped "Parmalat" (sold in Auchan). Moreover, Valio and German are not powder.

Aunt Besya, I don't understand, so you bought a Delongy coffee machine? If so, don't read on. I had a coffee grinder from this company, the grind was disgusting, only knife coffee grinders were worse.You can drink oriental coffee only if you pass it through a strainer (already prepared). And the most offensive - she died EXACTLY on the 2nd day after the end of the warranty. I got into the Internet (I must look for a replacement) and so Delongy has a lot of refusals. I also want a coffee machine, settled on Saeco. There is a budget model with a removable flush block. only 25 thousand I really like Yura, but there what you want starts with 35 thousand

[Dana]

DanaI also had a Delongey 6600, it is not one of the cheap models, and it also covered itself a week after the end of the warranty period and now it has been under repair for a year now, but there is no hope ... And I bought Saeko Taleo V2 instead. sooooo happy !!! No cleaning tablets needed, easy care and just superb coffee !!! Yura also wanted at first, but the professionals dissuaded me .... So buy calmly !!!

Aunt Basya and Zvezda tell me how can I find the latte-machiato and latte modes in a coffee machine, it's clear about cappuccino - press the button with the inscription and that's it, nothing is written in the passport - what to turn and where to press and in those ... the description states that these modes are. I showed a photo of a glass with a drink, and so I did it, as it were, by hand, that is, at first I just turned on whipping milk and poured it into the glass, then turned on the cappuccino - again milk was poured and then coffee - that's why it all spread out in the glass, but I would like to be fully automatic;) until you tell me which buttons to press and turn, I will not myself - I'm afraid to knock down the settings

I searched, searched, did not find and concluded for myself that what they called "latte" and "latte make-up" is nothing more than the regulation of the degree of frothing of milk, which is regulated by a button located on top of the milk container. Do you see several layers of foam there?

Hurrah! An idiot's dream has come true Yesterday they brought me a SAECO TALEA RING coffee machine. The instructions in Russian (well, how can it be without it) will be dropped on the e-mail only on Monday. And I really can't stand it. As far as I can I try to understand the English version, but as far as I understood in details it does not shine. So, I don't expect any particular clarity from the Russian version either. While at random I am trying to achieve the desired result.
First impressions, I never got such foam in my previous Gaggia carob. But there are still problems with the strength - the espresso is too strong and there is not enough water, but in long it is the other way around
Taking this opportunity, I want to thank the members of the forum. Yesterday, after reading the thread from start to finish, many questions have disappeared (however, as always, on this forum). You are the best

k.alena! Congratulations on your purchase! And the people on the forum are really great!

Congratulations!!!! Avot you instructions !!! Downloaded in a few seconds
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[zvezda]

Thank you, thank you, thank you went to study.
zvezda, you seem to be the same or practically the same, can those who are in the tank ask questions if I don’t understand? I still hope that everything will be ok.

Of course!!!!!!

[zvezda]

So, sir, with the preparation of coffee in a first approximation, I sort of figured out Espresso / coffee / long - are these gradations by the amount of water? And mild / medium / strong - by the amount of coffee itself? Am I getting it right? I haven't tried programming yet, but I don't know if I need it
For my daughter I frothed milk for cocoa, but here it is easier - the principle is absolutely the same as in the old carob, only the Panarello attachment is easier to wash
zvezda , How often do you turn off your car completely, i.e. with a button?

When she brewed coffee .... but in general, she goes into standby mode herself .... This wheel below is a unique system of Saeko. If you want an expresso, the more you turn to the right, the stronger the foam will be.

Saeco SBS - Saeco Brewing System - a system that allows you to brew coffee of different strengths without reconfiguring the coffee maker. Saeco SBS makes it possible to brew very weak coffee, or vice versa, as strong as possible with the currently set grinding parameters and the amount of coffee per serving, by simply turning the knob.The whole secret of SBS is that it allows you to change the water pressure in the cooking device. Moreover, you can do this right in the process of making coffee. By turning the Saeco Brewing System knob to the left, the pressure decreases and the coffee becomes less strong. Turning to the right, clockwise, the coffee becomes stronger by increasing the pressure.

However, please note the following!
The recommended SBS position is vertical, which provides the strength as close as possible to the classic Italian espresso. Do not hold the SBS control to the far right. If the coffee is flowing too slowly, poorly, dripping, or not flowing at all, turn the SBS all the way to the left. SBS system parts are made of chromed steel. The graceful and elegant placement of the system in the center of the coffee maker serves as an exceptional and important design element, adds solidity to the machine and some elegance.

by decreasing the pressure, you make the coffee less strong.

Isn't it easier to just use less coffee?

Above in the topic, this device has already been discussed and from the result I see that it trite (in some clever way) the coffee outlet holes (thereby increasing the pressure sobsno). It was the same in the carob coffee maker - for cream coffee there is a separate insert in the horn, there are 2 times less holes in it, it is more difficult for the finished drink to flow out and the water contacts the coffee longer - hence the strength and foam

Coffee girls, a question arose, does anyone use similar pills 🔗 (Coffee Oil Remover Tablets)? If so, how often? I don't need decalcification in principle (water from the filter, there is no scale in the kettle at all), but with coffee oils it is not clear

These pills, just for Saeko and similar machines, they are unnecessary for my DeLonga, since there are no transition tubes, and in my opinion the machine should signal that cleaning is needed. My friend Bosch, so this car is giving some signals. (most likely the processor counts the number of prepared cups of coffee)

And I terribly want a coffee machine and, in principle, have already chosen, even persuaded my husband, but something stops me from buying.

Zvezda (zvezda) has more than one coffee machine! she ate the dog on them! you can consult

[Tanya with numbers]

Tanya with numbers, you're already waiting for me ... I'm looking at her too ... well, more precisely, I'm going to look closely ...

What have you chosen? As a first approximation, I have - Krups ... But this oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ...

Zvezda (zvezda) has more than one coffee machine! she ate the dog on them! you can consult

Yes, they are already locked up there. ish !!!

I have already shoveled so much information on specialized forums 🔗, and I chose
Saeco Syntia, she is so small and pretty, Hairpin, and Krups do not take it, bad reviews.