Bijou
Trishka, cheers cheers?))
Actually, the cuff is not so difficult to remove if there is a man in the family. There are plenty of manuals on YouTube.
Taia
Quote: Trishka

Lena, they are gray-brown, and in the first photo, this is a black point, these are byaka, like pieces, and speckled, these are underwear in such a color, blue and brown.

I just had such spots on things. Only then it dawned on me that it was from a powder from a new package. I changed the powder to a completely different one and everything became normal. Washes perfectly.
Trishka
Nope, I have not a powder, but I have already found a video, tomorrow I will show my husband, let him study ...
Byaka zakalyaka
Trishka, if such problems are only with bed linen ... it seems to me that there is still not a problem with your machine, but questions about the powder, here the powder simply cannot cope with dissolving sebum, it simply turns it into flakes. And rinse the flakes themselves, the washing functions are no longer enough. If I were you, I would take the usual household laundry and lather the sweating linen with it, and then wash the soaped with powder in the car (of course, better at 90 ") and you will be happy. Just if these flakes remain regularly, the bed linen will smell of rancid fat. ... And then you have to wash the entire linen closet.
Trishka
Byaka zakalyaka, Marish, she's not, you can see it on light linen and on towels!
I have already found the source, now it remains to climb there and wash it like that!
ledi
Oh! And for some reason, notifications from the topic did not come to me Trishka, Ksyusha, but it seems to me that the cuff is not the case. It's just dirt there, and you have other stains

And my machine continues to stink (sorry) I can’t name it otherwise. I continue to wash with emway and homemade gel. Already cooked the second batch. I am very pleased with him.
Bijou
ledi, hike, you also need to pick off the cuff to see what's going on in the tank.
And further. And tell me, please, how is the drain on the machine organized? Well, where does the hose come from, from below or from above, how it is then laid, how long, is there a water seal, in what place, and what height, at what height the hose itself is stuck into the drain pipe.
ledi
Lena, The husband categorically refused to "climb" into the machine, said that he did not understand this, and the masters whom he called, said they were not involved in cleaning. I can imagine how much dirt has accumulated there over 10 years of work, but to clean the tank you need to disassemble everything completely, do I understand correctly?
The hose from the machine comes out at a height of 50 cm (slightly above the middle, the height of the machine is 85 cm), then it is raised by another 20 cm (factory mount) and lowered by 70 cm and again raised to a height of 55 cm and attached to the bathtub. I don't know if I described it clearly.
Bijou
ledi, well, partly.)))
Look what I'm trying to understand. Here the pump pushes the water out. Everything between the pump and the highest point of the hose will never go down the drain, but will pour back into the machine as soon as the pump stops. And the longer this piece of hose is, the more water will dangle between washings in the filter and nearby. What if we arrange it so that it is kept smaller there?

Well, there is always water in the sagging part of the hose, this is understandable, this is called a "water seal" and serves to prevent the smell of the sewage system (whoever has it connected) from getting into the car.

Quote: ledi
but to clean the tank you need to disassemble everything completely, do I understand correctly?
Well, in an amicable way, yes. And if you watch the video on removing only the cuff? It seems to be easy to remove and put, mine was removed for some reason, when I had to change the pump.))

There would be a vertical, it would be easier to assume a lost and rotting rag under the drum, but frontal cameras like these don't have such sores - mine and a coin will hardly slip into the slot behind the cuff inside the tank.
ledi
Lena, Lena, in general, for me all this is such a dark forest. To be honest, I have already resigned myself, there is no strength to fight. Hopefully when I change the powder, the smell will disappear. Now this problem has receded into the background, let it be the biggest in my life ...
Yesterday I raised the hose as far as possible, water gurgled in the machine and naturally an unpleasant smell went. After all, I wanted to replace the hose, but the foreman said that the problem would not be fixed. In general, as they say, either I, or the dumb master ...
Bijou
ABOUT! So why raise it? Then you need to lower it as far as possible.)) So he gets out of the car at a height of 50 cm and that's enough, then lower it smoothly so that everything unnecessary flows out, and does not stagnate. It also seems that the last water is either from poorly rinsed laundry with powder residues, or with conditioner. It turns out that the water is not too clean, the bathroom is warm, so it wanders. Not that I insisted, but as an option to try ...

If the hose is easy to remove and change yourself - I would certainly do it, they are sold in households and are inexpensive.

But a suspicion arose in me that I guess in what place it is lurking. This is not a drain hose, or rather, not only. From the tank, water flows to the pump through such a plump hose like an accordion (at least in our car). Every shit settles in its folds. Water also lingers in the pits and wanders. Perhaps, when we start filling the car with water, the clean water gets there, mixes with the dirty one and picks up the smell. You can try to clean it by hand without disassembling the machine, but I'm not sure that you will start doing this if you are not up to it now.
ledi
Quote: Bijou
or with air conditioning
: girl_red: of course, I continue to use it, where is it now, bought a pancake, that's all. And I also use it to make the linen smell better, I'm afraid that it doesn't smell musty from the typewriter.
I'll try to lower the hose after the last rinse into the basin, maybe it will be better to drain. Lena, thanks!
Bijou
If you do not give up the air conditioner, then you can try pouring several liters of clean water directly through the hatch after taking out the clean linen. It is even possible with a diluted splash of what we process the toilet with. Filled in, the hatch was closed and the Drain button was assigned. Well, so that the drum does not spin and does not spill its crosspiece with this solution again. The machine will rinse its drain path with clean water (or with a disinfectant) and, perhaps, there will be nothing to ferment until the next wash. How is the idea?

If the car does not have a separate "Drain" program, then it's okay, rinse with clean water, and then pour a glass or two of water with a disinfectant into an already empty car and leave it. Well, or at least just rinse the car with clean water, if there is no way to bother so deeply.)

You can, of course, just prescribe an extra rinse, but this is an unjustified waste of water, electricity, and the resource of the machine.
ledi
Clean water doesn't help. I asked for both rinsing + and super rinsing with hot water. If you pour water with Domestos, then you must not forget to rinse the machine before using. and then suddenly the colored things will ruin.

I have a button Without draining, for 10 years I still did not understand why it was, in general I did not bother with this
Bijou
Here is some bullshit. ((Did you do it many, many times and does not help?
My car started to stink only once - in a hot summer and with a long break between washes. I washed it with 90 grams of powder, rinsed it, opened the filter cover and the car door, everything dried up and the smell did not return anymore.
By the way. Is the hatch open or closed between washings? Sorry for the stupid question.

"Without draining" is if you wash delicate linen without supervision and you need it not to wrinkle by the time of removal. Then it is left in water without spinning, and all the necessary operations are done manually.
ledi
I open the hatch and don't insert the tray for a long time, it can lie on the typewriter for three days. Today I decided to check this mode without draining, although one sweater was rinsed there, and there was a lot of water, if I opened all the water would be on the floor

About the homemade gel. I report. The husband put a stain on a light sweater, most likely greasy or tomato. And when I was in the hospital did not reach it. And today I tried to wipe this stain off with an Emway lock and a stain remover, alas ... And then I decided to wipe it with gel and leave it for a few minutes. Joy knows no bounds: yahoo: washed !!!!!!!!!!!
Olga 61
ledi, I read the topic with pleasure, I learned a lot of useful things for myself. Vera, I wonder how your fight with the smell ended?
Ilmirushka
I have been using Amway powder for many years, the first car was ARDO. Now the new LG. Draining into the sewer. The husband installed both cars. There were never any smells. It was even strange to read this story.
Prus - 2
And cleaning with dishwashing tablets helped me a lot! The situation with the smell was also a year ago. There is so much information in Google! And I watched a lot of YouTube videos. In short - we throw 5-6 dishwasher tablets into the washer - I use Domol 12 in 1. And we run the cycle at the highest temperature. And then a couple of additional rinses. And be sure to clean the filter below!
ledi
Olga 61, Olya, switched to ordinary powder and everything went away by itself. Prefer Percil

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