Makhno
For the second day I have been hanging in the forum .... I choose my own stove.
Honestly, the roof starts to go. Therefore, I will be short with questions.
Who can answer clearly, thanks in advance.
1. What is the optimal power for HP 550.650W?
2. I liked the LG 155, but I do not like the shape of the container itself, in the form of a pasque, I like the classic shape of a loaf more, this is the same question.
Does it affect the shape of the bread.
3Which to choose from these 3 models
LG 155
Moulinex 3000
DeLonghi 755

I met a lot of bad things about Moulinex 3000, but outwardly it suits me, and the power is 650W, the other 550W.
And my main condition is .... to bake Rye bread (rustic) I LOVE it very much ..
3. Plasmas or metal, which should be preferred?
Panasonic is a bit of a bastard, but everyone praises him so much .. But in stores I have not met anywhere else. Maybe he did.

So I'm waiting for your specific feedback.
arsik
Take what the eye fits. They are all almost the same. The main thing is to read the forum and follow the tips, and everything will work out. And the shape of the bread is not the main thing, cut it into slices and you will enjoy the taste.
Uncle Sam
Quote: Makhno

1. What is the optimal power for HP 550.650W?

By itself, the power of HP does not guarantee anything. The number is only the passport amount of the consumed power of the heating element + engine + electronics. Since the power of the engine can only be recognized from the reviews of lovers of dumplings and black bread (manufacturers are silent as fish), then read the relevant forum topics.

Quote: Makhno

2. I liked the LG 155, but I do not like the shape of the container itself, in the form of a pasque, I like the classic shape of a loaf more, this is the same question.
Does it affect the shape of the bread.

The shape of the bucket has a 100% effect on the shape of the bread, but not on the taste and quality. To mix the flour well (without the need for manual help) in the form of a loaf familiar to you, Moulinex inserts 2 mixers into some models.

Quote: Makhno

And my main condition is .... to bake Rye bread (rustic) I LOVE it very much ..
3. Plasmas or metal, which should be preferred?
Panasonic is a bit of a bastard, but everyone praises him so much .. But in stores I have not met anywhere else. Maybe he did.

Rye (or rather, bread with the addition of rye flour) is baked even on bread makers, the producers of Ktr do not even know about it.
Well, there is such a program in my HP. So what? Chernyazhka, as a result of combining different programs, I like it better.

All modern stoves come with good heat protection. And although manufacturers regularly write "do not touch the case, it is hot", it does not heat up above 40 degrees. So metal or plastic is a matter of taste and aesthetics. (although the metal case of the LG-152 sometimes rattles from resonance)

And about the appearance ...
It's like in a joke: "... and I have 1 kg. ANY cucumbers, I will eat them!"
Makhno
That's just the form in the form of a pasque I don't like, but the LG model itself suits me perfectly.
Who has LG, show a photo of bread, otherwise it seems to me and it is inconvenient to cut it
Ferry
  Moulinex or Delonghi
I cut the loaf in half along the groove, from top to bottom, then put the cut side down and cut into slices.
No problem!
  Moulinex or Delonghi
Makhno
Thank you so much for the photo ..
And what about the stove itself, I want to hear your feedback?
This is the model I am leaning towards. the only thing that confuses me now is the oil seal, which flies for 2 years ..
... and is not cheap
Ferry
I use the fourth month, I bake often. I am happy with the results, if the yeast does not pump up - everything turns out fine. The Easter meals were wonderful. In general, the stove suits me perfectly. Works like Cinderella.
Mamula
I want to express my own opinion on these two models. Maybe someone will come in handy.
They really say - you need to try ...
Since July 2008 I have had Moulinex 2000... At that time, I didn't really bother with the choice.I went to the store, read the instructions, there was not enough money - I just bought the model I liked, from those that were available. I liked that the stove is neat and compact. In the instructions, everything is described in detail, all the phases are painted by the minute - it helped a lot when I began to cook according to recipes from the forum and it was necessary to vary with recipes, such as when lengthening the batch of rye bread. The upper crust, of course, was pale-e-e-little. Later I realized that I was not the only one. I solved the problem in my own way: I ALWAYS set it to 1000 gr and the Medium crust (that is, the default program). About self-tapping screws that can be tightened, I only recently read. Therefore, I used the advice from the forum, and the husband put the foil under the glass - it did not help; and closed it with a towel, a little better, but it’s so simple, if it’s not overnight, I baked it for another 10-15 minutes on the “baking” program. It is good that the stove in Mula makes it possible to turn on this program immediately, without interruption and additional time, for cooling down for the stove. The bread then turned out pretty. Well, in my opinion, after about 3-4 months, the ten developed itself. Or so it seemed to me? And she managed without a dispenser - at the signal of sweets she added. In general, we have become akin to the stove.
But in May of this year, a gasket was turned inside the bucket, where the mixer is put on. Fortunately, the stove was under warranty. They waited a long time for replacement. In general, they gave us an act with the right to change the x / n. I went to the store with the desire to buy a cotton one as it was. But the desire to try something else overpowered. In addition, she was already grounded in theory. "Little pigs" were not available at all - I was flattered by the dispenser and the vaunted quality of baking. And with the dispenser was only Delonghi BDM-125S and she alone has the ability to program herself, which became the decisive argument in the choice.
And now about the stove itself. I'll tell you right away, it works much quieter than Muli. Kneading with a spatula is performed in two directions, alternately. My Muli only had one direction. The dispenser is convenient in that you do not have to watch the signal for the bookmark - this is especially important when you set the delayed start mode. In addition, when you take out the finished bread, the spatula remains in the bucket and the hole in the loaf is "aesthetically beautiful" in appearance (for whom it is important!). Well, the roof, too, is pale-e-e-little left. I was a little upset about this, but not for long. I tried to set immediately the additional "Baking" mode for 10-15 minutes, as in Moulin it turned out - protection against overheating is provided (you need to let the tena cool for 15-20 minutes). In this case, there are two other ways - at the time of the current baking mode, you can change the program at your discretion - t. e. add extra time to any ongoing stage or independently (guided by the basic programs), taking into account all your wishes, program your recipe. Which I basically did. And I also closed the viewing window with foil. In general, the loaf turned out to be pretty ... And what else is convenient - the display shows symbols that determine the current stage of the program: kneading, yeast, deboning, baking, etc. That is, at any moment you know what your stove is doing now. The instructions also have a detailed time layout for all programs.
You can also add that the basic recipes are good in the first case and in the second, but this is not for everybody. As they say, the taste and color ..... Here is my little experience, maybe someone will come in handy.
ikko4ka
Mamula, thanks for the detailed stove comparison. I'm sure this will come in handy for many who want to buy x. n. My sister Mulya and I can now tell her about extra time, because the roof is also light.
Mamula
Quote: ikko4ka

Mamula, thanks for the detailed stove comparison. I'm sure this will come in handy for many who want to buy x. n. My sister Mulya and I can now tell her about extra time, because the roof is also light.
You are welcome! Use it to your health. There will be questions, ask, answer.
swich
help me choose between DeLonghi BDM 755 vs Moulinex OW3000. I want to give my mom a birthday gift.

And where is the best place to buy in Kiev?
swich
26 views and more than one answer ... (((((People help !!!!
swich
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swich DeLonghi BDM 755, to the account of Ukraine https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=83.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=61.0
about Moulinex
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=65.0
about Delongy
Happy choice!
Thank you very much, but I already read these topics before creating a topic ... And I had even more questions (((HELP !!!
ks372
Quote: swich

Thank you very much, but I already read these topics before creating a topic ... And I had even more questions (((HELP !!!
So you write the questions, maybe it will be easier to answer this way!
sazalexter
If you have questions, ask them in the appropriate threads,And where is the best place to buy in Kiev?https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=83.0
They know better where
And we cannot choose for you, only advise
swich
Quote: sazalexter

If you have questions, ask them in the appropriate threads,And where is the best place to buy in Kiev?https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=83.0
They know better where
And we cannot choose for you, only advise
So I'm waiting for advice!
sazalexter
swich See answer # 2 DeLonghi BDM 755
Celestine
Quote: swich

Thank you very much, but I already read these topics before creating a topic ... And I had even more questions (((HELP !!!

You need to continue existing topics, and not multiply them, so you confuse yourself and others, it is easier to find information in one place.
ikko4ka
swich, look at the pictures in the gallery - compare baked breads and choose the one x. etc. that you like.

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