I hate my bread maker !!!

My first Panasonic bread maker was above all praise, I just had to put everything in a bowl and then pull out the finished bread, which always turned out. ALWAYS!!! Any recipe !!! I had no idea that I needed to control the bun, I did not know anything about the kneading stages, etc. But a year later the program began to fail, and since the oven was under warranty, we took it back and offered us a replacement mulinex, for which had to pay extra. Nightmare! I have never felt so stupid! Even yen know where to start. During the couple of months that I have been using Mulinex bread has turned out 2-3 times. It rises poorly, burns on the lightest crust (you have to turn it off 10-15 minutes before the signal), the crust is a separate story altogether, it is thick, dry, hard as a stone! Therefore, when I read that everyone has it thin and crispy, I want to bite someone! Baguettes are a nightmare - I do better in the oven. The upper ten is clearly warmer: a darker stripe always appears on the finished bread. And even when I put it on the lightest crust, the bread always turns out to be much darker, like on the middle one. It's a shame to tears, she costs a lot of money, and I don't even want to approach her again. what am I doing wrong? I've already shoveled a ton of information, nothing helps. Though carry her back, but there is no obvious marriage, they will not take it. Help!!!

Maybe just turn it in and buy Panasonic?

[natavee]

nataveeif it is not to your liking, you need to remove it from your kitchen. Our life is not long enough to waste it on an unsuccessful bread maker.

[natavee]

natavee, can return and explain that the program is crashing?
Since it does not perform its functions correctly

it's a shame ((life is so difficult, if the bread maker also fidgets ..

Most likely this is the bread maker itself with a defect, change it and do not suffer.

Hand over and take Panas again. Whatever one may say, everything else is a compromise. I used to reassure myself that no, it's not about the company)))) after the operation of 4 stoves and mulinex including - Panasonic and no problems. And what dances with tambourines were around Phillips, this is something, I also hated her. It's just that Panas set the bar high for you, it's difficult to compete with other stoves, that's why Mulinex can't cope with the requirements imposed on it, mine, it turns out, also couldn't cope, as I changed to Panasonic, I understood this with the first loaf.

Most likely I will do so, I do not know if they will take it only without an obvious marriage. And how to prove, take bread with you to the store ?! It is interesting that Moulinex was more expensive than Panasonic and the seller assured that it was better. maybe it's just not a model, but my oven is like that.

[natavee]

natavee, there is nothing better than Panas

Most likely I will do so, I do not know if they will take it only without an obvious marriage. And how to prove, take bread with you to the store ?! Interestingly, Moulinex was more expensive than Panasonic, and the seller insisted that it was better. maybe it's just not a model, but my oven is like that.

The seller just had to shake off this stove) I wish you a successful exchange)

At one time I came to the forum with my grief. After 2 months of operation, my HP Mulinex died .. The whole forum was nursing me, maybe in our city at that time the range of stoves was very poorly presented, and I did not know what to buy in return. My brains were set right, I bought the last old 253 model of Panasonic and for the first time in my life I understood what real bread can be !! The mulinex bread was worse than the store bread !!! And my oven bakes excellent bread every day, kneads the dough on dumplings calmly, on pizza, and I don't need to wish the best, I'm 1000% satisfied with this old, but kind horse.And I still have such a disgust for moulinex ... that I do not see household appliances of this brand at close range, and I will not take it, even if they offer it for nothing .. I managed to buy a Moulinex meat grinder to hp, there are crooked knives ... But it still works ... I want my Panasik to be a long-liver, and live at least 20 years. The instructions said that they live for 7 years.

[natavee]

Four years ago, we bought HP Mulinex as a present for my mother. The first bread did not work, they put the stove in a box, decided that we did not know how to bake in HP, and did not touch any more. Somewhere a year later, her daughter-in-law took her away, the bread did not work, I read all the branches about this HP here, read something, covered the window with foil, etc., like something happened. And recently, my brother was visiting me and said that such as my bread from Pan Panas, in Moulinex, with all the dances with tambourines - it never worked, it is pale and as if unbaked. I disagree about crooked handles, our hostess Natasenka is wonderful.
By the way, when a year and a half ago, I decided that after leaving the decree there would not be much time for the household, and decided that it would be better to bake bread in KhP than to buy it in a store (nevertheless, baking bread in the oven takes a little longer) , and given the not very good experience with Moulinex, I took Panasonic. And I love him very much. He interferes with the dough and minced meat for ham, well, just a wonderful helper!
natavee, and you are on Avito, in the buy section, look, are there people - fans of this brand? Can you sell it there? And take Panasonic.

And I like the Mulinex stove, for six years I baked bread in it, and I never had a bad bread. I would have bought more HP of this brand, but a Turkish programmable one with two buckets for 50 € turned up. And, oddly enough, it also makes excellent bread, although more often I use it as a kneader, and bake it in the oven.

Yes, just a hike, the company is one (or maybe just a name, a label on the case), and the manufacturers are different ... If Panasonic somehow controls the manufacturers, so where you can not buy a product of proper quality. But with the same Bosch, there is no confidence ... there are a lot of fakes

I also have a mule with molds for baguettes. In principle, I was pleased with her. Yes, I had to set extra time for baking, of course. and the crust is oak, but I love this, but my husband does not
in the fall I bought a simple kenwood bm 250 at the dacha for a promotion. And here I felt the difference. Bread in Kesh is fluffy, with a thin crust. Everything is baked on the supplied program.
Now I try to bake bread on weekends at the dacha and take it to the city so as not to bake in Mula ... And it cost 5 years ago like a wing from a Boeing (((Unlike Kesha, which I got for 3000 rubles last November

I love my Panasik dearly.
But all the same, I will speak out in defense of Muli. For three years we lived like a family, that is, we both cursed and made peace. But with bread the jambs could be counted on one hand. I gave it to my niece, because it is great for our family (I had 5004). And there he is still plowing: he bakes bread for a large family, and kneads the dough. So, probably, as someone is lucky with the technique.

And I have HP Radmond, my husband bought it 2 years ago, within 7,500 rubles, at first I was delighted, I began to bake bread, and then, as the electricity bill came ..., I abandoned it. So it is worth it and the money is no longer worth it, and it did not pay off. Here you need bread for dinner, until you bake it, and drove to the store and bread on the table. Although in fairness it must be said, the first time it turned out very tasty

My Panasik has been plowing for 20 years already ...

[Lucilia]

Lucilia, not really yours, all the same, the cost of your bread is much less than bread of SUCH high quality in the store.

[Lucilia]

Lucilia, it’s your electricity being stolen ... We didn’t notice the difference. As for the price, Irina definitely noticed, and in any case, you will never be sure of the quality of the purchased one.

so I don't argue with you, for me it’s a very long time to bake, even a short baking for 1 hour, but it still needs to be cooled.And another problem that I faced, raw materials, separately all the ingredients are difficult to buy, not always everything can be bought in one market, but ready-made mixtures ..., too, you must agree, what they mixed there. And my favorite bread from KhP is carrot with coriander, I agree, you can't buy it in a store

thank you all for the feedback, let's go change it, then unsubscribe how it went

[Lucilia]

Lucilia, my (and probably not only my) experience may come in handy, I put bread either in the evening when I come home from work, or with a delay in the start for the morning, and bake a little in advance, I just need to adjust. If in the morning I see that there is not enough bread, then I put bread on before work, when mine come from class, they take it out, it is just baked while they change, wash their hands, etc., it has already cooled down. And please, bon appetit.

[natavee]

natavee, keep our fists!

happened! I got rid of this horror! Unfortunately, at the moment there was no exchange at all in the Panas store. I had to take redmond. on the forum I looked that my own recipe book can be thrown out immediately. Please, tell me a few simple recipes to try. Borodinsky can also. Who knows if it is possible to use recipes for Panas in redmonde (I have several), since the order of bookmarking of products is the same for them? can't wait to try out a new purchase. if nothing happens again -

[natavee]

natavee, recipes can be used in general, whatever you like, and take it. Everything will work out, good bread)

And I would start with the simplest wheat, in order to appreciate the work of a bread machine