anel
Good day to all!
I made apple juice in a juicer in the fall, today I found out that one 3-liter jar was leaking and the lid was swollen.
It smells like yeast. Pour out or can you make vinegar, wine? I have never made vinegar or wine myself.
Girls, what do you recommend?
LenaV07
Well, if you fermented, then, probably, only for vinegar. There will be a wonderful natural product Or try this https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=392665.0
anel
LenaV07, Thank you! And by chance you don't know how to make this vinegar,
anel
LenaV07, thanks, I will study!
Irgata
If you don't want to do anything at all - the simplest thing is to pour the fermented juice in portions (the most demanded volume for me, for example, 300-400 ml) into 330 ml bottles of yogurt and freeze, in winter just put it on the balcony, and if necessary, defrost it in cooking = 1. for marinade of meat 2. for kneading bread instead of another liquid, especially for rye 3. kneading dumplings dough with vinegar - and here is your own, homemade.
LenaV07
Quote: Anel

LenaV07, Thank you! And by chance you don't know how to make this vinegar,
I would now put on a rubber glove on the jar and put it in a dark, warm place for further fermentation. When the glove is completely inflated, a film should already form on the surface, the so-called. "bite womb". Something like "kombucha". After that, I would take off my glove, tied the neck with a thick cloth (I have a sackcloth for this) and for another 1.5-2 months in a dark place. The finished vinegar should be transparent, such a uterus is good to float on the surface. Then filter through a cloth and into bottles. And already bottles in a cool place. Sometimes even in bottles, vinegar uterus formed, but I took them off and threw them away so as not to oxyderate, well, she eats the product
Irgata
Moreover, I realized that the juice is not vinegar, but just fermented - but for one year I also opened several bottles with fermented and used it that way.
Chuchundrus
anel, I have this year, had a sea of ​​apple juice and I'm doing vinegar. So if you do it without any additives such as yeast, water and sugar, then the process is much faster and the result is tastier. Just place the juice in a wide bowl in a dark place and wait. A vinegar uterus will appear (very similar to mold), here do not panic, but wait and you will be happy - tasty and healthy vinegar.
I had a bucket and a bottle in action, and the process went faster in the bucket. And I also read a bunch of tips for making apple cider vinegar, and so everywhere they advise a large surface of contact with air. And if there is wine, then there is a glove on the neck to restrict air access.
Irgata
Quote: LenaV07
... When the glove is completely inflated, a film should already form on the surface, the so-called. "bite uterus". Something like "kombucha".
yeah ... I need to take note
LenaV07
Quote: Irsha
yeah ... I need to take note
I have a "manechka", I distill everything into vinegar ... And fermented homemade wine, and compote, and grape pomace from juice. In the strawberry season, I crush the selected "substandard", add sugar and also put it on vinegar. I also did dogwood vinegar, I really liked it. Beautiful very ...
I even made pineapple.
Oh, I forgot to say ... The vinegar uterus can not be thrown away, but put into a jar with some juice or even already with ready-made vinegar and then use it to speed up the process if you want to make a new batch.
Irgata
Quote: LenaV07
I distill everything into vinegar ...
What are you doing with so much vinegar?
LenaV07
Quote: Irsha
What are you doing with so much vinegar?
There is not much of it.Within 1-2 liters of different items. Most of the grape pomace was there, where I filled a can of 10 liters or even more. I have been using it for several years. This was done purposefully, and the rest was the disposal of the sour. I use it in food (salads, marinades), for rinsing hair.
anel
Girls, Chuchundros, Irsha, thank you for responding! So, in order.
I have juice with a little added sugar, isn't that scary?
LenaV07, rubber glove, dense, inside with dusting will fit or do you need medical ones?
Irgata
Medical is better. Sugar is not a hindrance, I and just juice, mostly, of course, apple, I use for marinades and dough. Pure juice, especially boiled juice, is not useful.
anel
Irina, thanks, I'll go buy medical ones. And I really like the taste of juice from a juicer :))
LenaV07
Quote: Irsha
Pure juice, especially boiled juice, is not useful.
So any juice, if it is not frozen, but preserved at home, has to be boiled. Otherwise, he will "bang"

Irgata
I have clarified apples, first through a centrifugal juicer, the resulting juice through a terry towel (rather, it is strained through cheesecloth for a very long time), first through one, then through the other and into the pan on the fire, I add sugar no more than a tablespoon per liter, so how- then by inertia, I bring it to a boil faster, remove the foam, boil it over low heat for 3 minutes and quickly over bottles, cans for rolling. I use vodka bottles - the caps hold well several times, and then you can tighten the caps from plastic bottles - so deep, with not a rounded top Fermented canned apple juice
LenaV07
Irsha,
I practically do the same, only I do not strain after the juicer and roll up the lids. But the juice turns out to be pure, 100% and boiling again ... What is the difference from a juicer?
LenaV07
Quote: Anel
LenaV07, rubber glove, dense, inside with dusting will fit or do you need medical ones?
Yes, I would twist it inside with rubber and put it to wander, and tomorrow or the day after tomorrow I bought medical gloves (I would not have run to the pharmacy on purpose).
anel
It's a good idea, I will, the glove will not immediately puff up, will it wait a little?
Marika33
Girls, why a glove jam on fermented juice? When on wine, then they make a mash so that air does not get in, but for vinegar, on the contrary, air is needed. In the fall, I prepared 30 liters of apple cider vinegar, prepared it from juice, through a juicer. She covered the tank with a cloth, but this was only so that midges would not get there. After fermentation, pour the clarified part into a glass jar and also cover with a napkin to ripen. Air access is essential for the development of the right bacteria. When the vinegar uterus matures, sinks to the bottom, then the vinegar is ready, you need to pour it into bottles and seal it tightly, place in a cool place. The vinegar uterus is very useful. Sometimes it is specially grown and maintained to be used to make vinegar. Last year, it grew up to 5 cm thick.
Irgata
Quote: LenaV07
What's the difference from a juicer?
As far as I understand, there is no juicer, but the experience of using it was - the juice is not as clarified as from a centrifugal juicer, especially with straining = raw juice forms a head of foam, you can simply remove it at first before straining. And also - in a juicer, a longer heat treatment time. if you do not drain the juice 0 then this foam (proteins) will fall out during boiling into a sediment, but in cans it does not look very nice and gives a bitter taste. These are my observations, our apples from the Urals.
anel
My husband's parents had a garden of 40 apple trees (Yaroslavl region), juice was always made in a juicer, and in the village there was no juicer. The juice was sweet and tasty. Remembering that taste, I also made it in a juicer.
LenaV07
Irsha,
Clear. I only did it through a centrifuge, and then boiled it, there is nothing to compare.
Quote: marika33
Girls, why a glove jam on fermented juice?
To be honest, I don’t know ... I read it this way, but did it differently.And with a glove and with gauze ... In, about the fact that the uterus should go down, I forgot.
Marika33
LenaV07, Lena, if the juice is boiled, there will be nothing useful there, only a pleasant drink, without vitamins. For many years I have been harvesting juice, heating it to 60 degrees, and then sterilizing it for 20 minutes, corking it, it is always worth it, not a single jar has deteriorated.
Chuchundrus
marika33, I absolutely agree with you. From experience I know that the more air is available, the faster the process of making vinegar. The bottle lasted for a month longer than the bucket.
Marika33
ChuchundrusNatasha, yes, that's right! And if you put the vinegar uterus in fresh juice, then it will ripen much faster.
Lena (Anel) in your case, I would recommend adding a little honey or sugar, feeding the vinegar bacteria.
This year I added honey instead of sugar. The vinegar turned out to be very pleasant, with a honey aroma. And it is much healthier than with sugar. They say that sugar is poison now.
anel
When I made the juice, I already put sugar, about 2 tbsp. l. 3 liters. More honey or sugar? As I already wrote, the juice smells like yeast so good and such a whitish strip appeared on the surface along the edges of the circle.

In short, I'll leave the juice in the jar, cover it with gauze, put it in a dark, warm place and watch
How do you like this option? Because my second option is to pour everything into the trash, and calm down already. (Although it is a pity for labor and food)
Marika33
You need to put 50-100 grams of sugar or honey per liter of juice.
And one more obligatory nuance. The vinegar container cannot even be moved from place to place. The uterus is very moody. it is a living organism and it dies, from hesitation, chokes. Put it on and just look, do not touch.
Chuchundrus
Lena is great! Now wait for a super useful thing at the exit.
Sasha55
I also try not to bring the juice to a boil when preparing juice. I heat it over medium heat, all the foam rises upward in such a dense crust. It is already a matter of experience and practice not to start shooting it ahead of time. Otherwise, it falls apart into small pieces, you have to strain. And I never sterilize anything. Juice costs years. In the apartment. And through a juicer, the juice seems to me boiled, like children's applesauce to taste. And even experienced gardeners once long ago, when I was just starting with the preparations, said that making apple juice with sugar is a mash. I remembered and never add sugar to an apple tomato field.
anel
So, ladies,: girl_claping: by universal efforts and collective intelligence, I set myself to turn a fermented product into a useful thing. I will wait for the result.
Thank you very much for your help!
LenaV07
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