Miracle frying pan grill gas D-512 with glass lid

Tanya, can you please tell me, is the food cooked in this frying pan different from the one cooked in the airfryer? I have a hotter airfryer. It makes good chicken, meat and fish. But in the process of cooking, you still need to turn them over. And I don't really like vegetables in it. Judging by your photos, you've got amazing goodies. Also fired up to acquire such weight. But I am confused by the presence of an airfryer. How different are the products in taste and juiciness? Or is it almost the same thing?

One does not interfere. I also have an airfryer
It depends on what to cook, for what purposes and what result to get in terms of time and quality.

Frying pan - works on gas, which suits me very much for the purpose of "tired of unreasonable expenses for electricity"
Convection oven is an electric appliance.
In order to reduce fat content, both appliances are the same.

It is advisable to bake a thick piece of brisket in the AE. Thin brisket faster in a skillet.
French fries or in pieces will bake better and faster in a pan - in AG it is a very long process and the result is not always pleasing. The same goes for casseroles, scrambled eggs, scrambled eggs - and so on .... with baked goods

I will use a larger frying pan every day, it does a lot of things better. Well, I like to cook soups, borscht in a pressure cooker or just in a saucepan on gas.

By the juiciness of the product - the pan does not weather the product, the meat is juicy and tasty, even a little smoky, chtoli. And tastier than in AG - that's for sure!

Of course, they will begin to argue with me now - but this is a matter of taste

[Kornienko]

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Tanya, thank you very much for your quick reply.

"By the juiciness of the product - the pan does not weather the product, the meat is juicy and tasty, even a little smoky, chtoli. And tastier than in AG - that's for sure!"

- Thank you for describing your impressions. For me it turned out to be a decisive factor, because I trust you very much !!!
HURRAH! I ordered this wonderful frying pan !!!

Olya, to your health! I hope the frying pan does not disappoint you!

[Potatoes "soft" in a frying pan grill gas]

A separate recipe, it seems like there is nothing to exhibit, I post here:

Potatoes "soft" in a frying pan grill gas

I wrote "soft" because I don't know how to qualify it: fried, baked .... in general, soft and tasty

French fries
Salt pepper
Vegetable oil
Rosemary (used my own rosemary in oil)

Peel the potatoes, cut them into "fries", rinse them from starch, dry them with a towel.
Sprinkled with salt, pepper, added a sprig of rosemary, vegetable oil, a little, just to grease the potatoes.

Put the potatoes in the bottom pan and bake them covered over medium heat for about 30 minutes.
The potatoes were baked well, soft, even began to blush from the bottom.
At the end of cooking, I put a piece of ready-made salmon on the potatoes (the leftovers are sweet) to just warm it up.







I liked this option No problem, oil splashes, fast, and delicious!

[Admin]

Admin, the beauty
Tatyana, don't you need to turn the potatoes?

Ira, THANKS!

Oh, I didn't write - I mixed it a couple of times. If you keep it for a long time, it can fry until a red crust, the bottom has already begun to fry.

[Admin]

Admin, Tatyana, such a photo is awesome! I drowned in potatoes, looking ...

[Admin]

Admin, Tatyana, such a photo is awesome! I drowned in potatoes, looking ...

Well, in principle, potatoes have such a color, a little yellowish

Girls, well, you know how to infect !!! I already want her too! But such a question, who has a Philips Airfryer, what is the difference between the dishes prepared? And then they may be kicked out of the house for purchasing a similar device, for myself I also want to understand the advantage of a frying pan, electricity is clear, the volume of food should be more, and also, tell me !!!! All in doubt, to be enough or not ???

[Admin]

Admin,
The beauty! Perhaps, only for this pallet with holes it is worth ordering (you can't bake small pieces on a regular wire rack). The pallet, by the way, is of the same type in AF Redber.
And for the possibility of baking.
Question. And the oven, as in an old miracle oven, is right in the lower "ring" (there is also a thick divider there). Or is it possible to bake in a new stove only on a pallet in holes?

But such a question, who has a Philips Airfryer, what is the difference between the dishes prepared?

There is no difference, the taste of the dishes is the same, if only the fish comes out more successfully in the gas grill pan. And then, in AF I experimented little with fish, since I rarely cook it and there is no time for experiments.

Girls, well, you know how to infect !!! I already want her too! But such a question, who has a Philips Airfryer, what is the difference between the dishes prepared?

I don't have an air fryer, but looking at the photo of ready-made dishes from it, the AF fries more aggressively and fried, and the heating temperature cannot be changed, it acts like an automatic machine. For this reason, at one time I refused to buy AF.

In a frying pan, you can always interfere with the cooking process, remove the lid and look in, stir (for example, potatoes, turn a piece of meat), if you need to add-subtract gas-heating, turn off-remove the pan earlier or keep it on the stove, that is, cook to your color and taste - then the dish will turn out delicious I myself determine the degree of roastiness and softness of the product, this is a mechanical manual control device

And here af did not get accustomed - well, none of her dishes liked it! I hope for this frying pan)))

[Admin]

Admin,

Question. And the oven, as in an old miracle oven, is right in the lower "ring" (there is also a thick divider there). Or is it possible to bake in a new stove only on a pallet in holes?

This is what the baking tray looks like



It is inserted into the base, which is placed directly on the fire.

Shown here all the parts of the pan



The lowest spare part, this is the "base" where all the other form pallets are inserted, depending on the purpose.

[Irisha]

And here af did not get accustomed - well, none of her dishes liked it! I hope for this frying pan)))

IrishaI hope you like the frying pan The food turns out delicious

[Admin]

AdminHow is it impossible to change the temperature in AF? I change, and open, and interfere. All OK. And potatoes in 15 minutes. Meat in 20min.

[Admin]

AdminHow is it impossible to change the temperature in AF? I change, and open, and interfere. All OK.

Natasha, I'm sorry - I don't know this device But I don't want to offend any of the owners, let alone mislead
It's just, I don't like food so fried - hence my reaction, sorry

[Tatyana]

Tatyana, I'm not offended. It's just that they are different devices. And AF is now at a price: oBut it is very fast compared to Miracle. Well, the AF for safety rules, of course.

[very fast]

But she very fast compared to Miracle. Well, the AF rules for safety, of course.

Oh, this is not an indicator of "speed" for me. I am like bread - "must stand as long as he needs"
Something I'm starting to enroll in conservatives, or requests have increased

[Tatyana]

TatyanaIn general, in my opinion, every kitchen device has its own admirer and favorite. And it is right

And here af did not get accustomed - well, none of her dishes liked it! I hope for this frying pan)))

Irin, the tastes of the dishes are identical in the AF and in the grill gas.

Girls, it seems to me that all devices that drive hot air give about the same result! There is hardly a fundamental difference, as, for example, between a deep fat fryer and a double boiler. Honestly, when I lived in an apartment with an electric stove, I thought to buy an airfryer, but now, when I have "unlimited" gas, I see no reason to buy an expensive electrical appliance that will also consume energy! I am for saving!))) I bought gas grill just to save time, save time!

I have an excellent gas oven with a gas grill, but in the morning, when I need to make a casserole, or in the evening, when I need to quickly cook dinner, I am terribly annoyed by this half-hour heating of the oven !!! Well, and, of course, after grilling meat in the oven, this smell ... bueee! However, washing the oven and washing the pan are two big differences! Now I will have the oven for "non-splattering" cooking - bread, pies, muffins and terrines with pâté, but the grill gas will be busy with meat and urgent dishes.

I have already prepared the legs, baked potatoes and made crackers - I am very pleased with the result! In my opinion, the chicken turned out to be juicier than in the oven, but the potatoes are straight baked and baked, for some reason the oven tasted differently ...
The only question that torments me - is it possible to wash this whole thing in the dishwasher?

I light, I still hope that tastes will be different. Let me explain why: in af, the products are cooked more intensively and faster and, perhaps because of this, seem to be overdried. In a Gas grill, due to the fact that there is water in the pan, steam is generated and the food remains juicy.
I hope so)
In general, we will try and compare)

Irin, the tastes of the dishes are identical in the AF and in the grill gas.

Grill gas has a smoke aroma !!! I can distinctly feel it near the meat.

And you can stuff a lot more food than a standard airfry. Although, if we compare it with a 3-liter HAAN, then the question is, much more will fit.

[Vera]

Vera, I probably would not risk it. I am generally not a supporter of washing coated pots in PM.

[Admin]

Admin, Tanechka, such delicious potatoes! I write down your recipes, I wait for such a frying pan while I use a simple grill gas. Dukanus already more than a year, cooking in this frying pan helps a lot.

Grill gas has a smoke flavor !!! I can distinctly feel it near the meat.

And here, too, there is a smack and smell of smoked meats, so tender As if the meat is being cooked on the grill, I felt it on the brisket and fish, and even baked in the same way along the edges, with burns

[Admin]

Admin, Tanechka, such delicious potatoes! I write down your recipes, I wait for such a frying pan while I use a simple grill gas. Dukanus already more than a year, cooking in this frying pan helps a lot.

THANK YOU!
Zhenya, yes, what are the recipes here? I'm like that akyn in the field that comes to mind, then I cook

but due to the fact that there is water in the pan,

I do not pour water into the pan. From the second or third time she stopped. (I still have an ordinary steel gas grill with a grate, but I dream about it). And nothing dries. Especially if you immediately quickly seal it to a crust over high heat, and then reduce it further on medium.

I do not pour water into the pan. From the second or third time she stopped. (I still have an ordinary steel gas grill with a grate, but I dream about it). And nothing dries. Especially if you immediately quickly seal it to a crust over high heat, and then reduce it and further on medium.

Lena, my thoughts on this subject are as follows:
- the bottom does not overheat from strong heating
- the fat from the pallet flows into the water, does not stick tightly to the walls and then it is more convenient and faster to wash off with a regular detergent and a sponge
- in certain cases, it gives moisture and does not dry out the dish. After all, the same meat will be tastier and juicier from cooking with steam.

Well these are my findings

[Admin]

Admin,
And I soak in water after cooking.
I like the steamed chicken breast marinated more. Then you need a little water. But the meat is not. And oily fish like mackerel cooks better without water.

I am generally not a supporter of washing coated pots in PM.

Ira, I remember your opinion))) I myself, having ditched a couple of pans with a dishwasher, I'm afraid, but it’s too "cloudy" to wash the lid of this grill, to disassemble it every time ?! After the chicken legs it is not very splattered, until it just rinsed it and wiped it with a rag, but the cockroach rustles: "Put it in the PM, what will he do ?!")))

[Kornienko]

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Ooooh !!! I knew it was IT, the very thing that I was missing !!! Casserole in 15 minutes !!! Mix the egg with cottage cheese and sugar - 2 minutes, put on the grill for 13 minutes (burned in 15 minutes!).
Tanya, mercis again for the story about the grill with the window! This is the most ingenious upgrade of the old-mode miracle oven, which made you take the plunge!))

Vera, great! Just homemade curd stagnated in the refrigerator. Didn't you add flour?

[Vera]

Vera, a good idea with casseroles, and even portioned I will definitely do
By the way, I found metal in my reserves. a coated mold, round and with a hole in the middle - I want to try the casserole, the height of the mold is only 5 cm. and it should turn out

Vera, Thanks for the kind words! Everything ingenious is simple! We return to grandmother's devices, it's not for nothing that they baked chic pies and pies in them

... Everything ingenious is simple! We return to grandmother's devices, it's not for nothing that they baked chic pies and pies in them

Tanya, a rare aluminum miracle stove "cheap" and did not catch on Avito, apparently fate was to buy this red "bubble" with a window!

Just homemade curd stagnated in the refrigerator. Didn't you add flour?

Ira, added a teaspoon of starch - it's more like a souffle than a casserole, although I add either semolina or semolina with starch to the casserole, never flour.

Please help. I collected the frying pan. There are 2 screws left and this thing. Where is her?

This "tulip-rosette" must be attached to the handle, under the glass, and so that the extension of the rosette is directed towards the bottom, the socket will not be attached in any other way

Thank you!

and the heating temperature can no longer be changed

And why is that? Change as much as you want Like time.

In a frying pan, you can always interfere with the cooking process, remove the lid and look in, stir (for example, potatoes, turn a piece of meat), if you need to add-subtract gas-heating, turn off-remove the pan earlier or keep it on the stove, that is, cook to your color and taste - then the dish will turn out delicious I myself determine the degree of roastiness and softness of the product, this is a mechanical manual control device

In AF, you can do everything the same.
Apparently, you did not understand the principle of AF operation a little.

in af, the products are cooked more intensively and quickly and, possibly because of this, as if overdried.

So make the temperature lower, business-like) Moreover, at any time you can control the process. For example, potatoes in a village style, a basket full, baked for almost 20-25 minutes, nothing fast, but you will not get such a result anywhere else.
The only difference that catches your eye is the number of products on the way out. Apparently there will be more of them in this pan.
But it's so huge) It needs to be stored somewhere else.

The only difference that catches your eye is the number of products on the way out. Apparently there will be more of them in this pan.
But it's so huge) It needs to be stored somewhere else.

The impression is deceiving. Much won't fit, just for the sake of experiment try to place food on the AG grate without taking up the middle 10 cm in diameter. And so that the product does not touch the lid, you need to slightly move the products away from the outer edge. And it turns out that in terms of the volume of prepared products at a time, sometimes AF wins.

The impression is deceiving.

that's why I wrote "apparently")

And how much needs to be washed in this frying pan, well, I don't know, AF definitely wins.

[grill gas runs on gas]

The only difference that catches your eye is the number of products on the way out. Apparently there will be more of them in this pan.
But it's so huge) It needs to be stored somewhere else.

The most important difference is grill gas runs on gas! And the result is excellent
The rest doesn't matter to me anymore

Girls, somehow I don't want to make a comparison "whose pan" is better and than because we deliberately made the choice of this particular device

[Admin]

Girls, somehow I don't want to make the comparison "whose pan" is better and than

Excuse me, Admin, we didn't start it.
In all fairness, nothing more.

But it's so huge) It needs to be stored somewhere else

Irina, do you have AF? Could you measure its height, depth and width - it became interesting how many cubic centimeters it takes. I saw the AF live, it seemed huge to me and since you are so impressed by the size of the grill gas, let's try again!))))
I'm laughing ...

I'm laughing ...

Laughter lengthens life)))
If you really want to measure yourself, then count how many cubic centimeters you will wash after cooking)))

Girls, once again, for the dull ones. We did not start this dispute. Reread the thread.
You have to be honest, after all. If you have written nonsense, you need to be ready to listen to the truth in return.