Poll: Do you need a dumpling machine for the width of the noodle cutter?

Alevtina, well, of course, you can))) yes, I forgot about this point, that they must first invest ...

I have some disappointing news so far. The casters carefully studied our request and answered my many questions. This is not their profile, there is no economic justification for introducing our product into their assortment, this order would be a drop in the ocean of their work.
According to them, in order to achieve the proper quality of casting of our dumplings, we need production machines for injection molding. They are available in all industries. The biggest difficulty lies in the large financial costs of making the model. It costs from 300,000 rubles to 600,000 rubles to make any model. And our dumpling maker with its 34 concave-convex holes with sharp edges is considered difficult, and therefore the price will be close to the upper price corridor. But having a ready-made model, you can easily pour at least one dumplings on it, at least a thousand dumplings.
Of the 257 Russian enterprises engaged in casting non-ferrous metals (our aluminum is just a non-ferrous metal), it is necessary to find those who are directly involved in the casting of food-grade aluminum AK5 for the needs of the domestic bakery and food industry and for equipping restaurants, cafes and canteens. I found these production workers, now I will knock on them.

As for the chebureks ... I agree with Lena, it will be inconvenient to put meat in a mold, you need to smear it, they are easy to make. Here are my photos, sculpted with rolling, the flat side of the cheburek, this is the width of the tape (15 cm.) True, I did not cut it exactly with a wheel, but the meaning is clear.

[Anya]

Anya, such delicious pasties! What is the recipe?

[Taia]

Taia, Thank you! Right here HOW I did. And the recipe was on the label from a plastic mold for chebureks (I didn't use the mold, the width turned out to be more than 15 cm.), And then I found the same here on the forum recipe for chebureks from Lyulёk, only with her with vodka, and with me without her, and so word for word.

[annnushka27]

annnushka27, Anka, druh! Give me a kiss! After all, it's really convenient with a dough rolling machine! Yes, they are still not so small, about 14 cm, right? Well, it's very ICE! Thank you!

Our manufacturers could master aluminum bakeware or shortcrust dies. American forms Nordic ware how hotcakes are sold. Is there really a shortage of aluminum in the country that they cannot produce beautiful forms for our hostesses? Or laziness?

If that - I, too, for the dumplings, dumplings and any forms for the dough roll The material does not matter to me.
Moscow

Claudia Khabarovsk 2 pcs metal.

Here's a virtual dumpling maker. This is the fruit of my long sketches - a dumpling maker for 18 dumplings. Each dumpling is 8 cm long and 4 cm high. "Skirt" is included in these specified sizes. I was looking for a "correct dumpling" for a long time, so that it would not be large and not small and that it would "fit" into the width of our noodle cutters.

[Alevtina]

Alevtina, superb! I wish everything would work out !!

[Creamy]

Creamy, Alechka, according to the sketch of the varenichka: where there are hardly doubled segments, a turn of the second and fourth pairs by 90 degrees suggests itself. for structural rigidity.

[ZEElena]

ZEElena, well, you are a GOOD MAN !!! Indeed, you seem to me VERY right

[ZEElena]

ZEElena, Lena, Yes exactly! A very correct observation from the outside with a fresh look! Thank you! Otherwise, I was more concerned about placing as many dumplings as possible in a limited area and at the same time there were as few technological dough attacks as possible.

If it works out (t-t-t !!!) Nizhny Novgorod, 2 pcs. and dumplings, and dumplings. Metal is desirable, but we will be glad to see plastic too!

It seems to me that this turn will not strengthen, but weaken, since the thinnest place - this is the space between the double segments - will no longer represent a cross with 4 beams, but a T-structure with 3 beams, which is clearly a weaker design. In other places, everything is more solid and nothing will change there from this replacement.

... just don't throw your slippers ...
I just wanted to ask if the size of the dumplings is too big? They will boil a little more, in general there will be burdocks ...
And, say, 6.5 or at least 7 cm no, no?

In fact, the size of the dumplings is 7.8 cm x 4 cm with a skirt. The working part of the length of the dumpling without a skirt will just be 6.8 cm. And the height of the dumpling, also taking into account the skirt on top and the skirt on the bottom, will also decrease by 1 cm, and become equal to 3 cm. I also took into account so that 3 large cherries, or one apricot, fit into the dumpling.

M-dya? Okay, persuaded!
Alechka, thanks for your work! Well, what would we do without you ?!

[Creamy]

Creamy, Alevtina, the form came out, the very thing! I like that! : girl-yes: Gefu has almost the same arrangement, can you add and lengthen the dumplings from the edges? There is little waste. the dough hangs slightly.

[Loksa]

Loksa, Oksan, and what size of dumplings does Gefushka have?

I am also interested in the size of the dumplings.

Wait, I'll make a measurement, I'll show you pictures. The dumplings turn out to be the same, neither large nor small, very neat. The quality of the photo has deteriorated when uploading, but the centimeters are visible.

Without edging or skirt

I adjusted myself and roll the dough not to the full width of the rolling, and almost no waste. But it would be twice as long or two more dumplings, it would be gorgeous. Want I can show dumplings

If you add another row of halves of dumplings, just the width of the form turns out to be 13-14 cm. And finish the form well with dumplings that do not create a circle, then there is less trimming around the edges. In total, I got a shape for 6 pieces + 4 pieces (at the edges they added 2 each) and + 5 another row of halves: a total of 15 dumplings with a mold size: 14cm (Max) by 45cm ~ 46cm (5 dumplings * 9cm). 14 * 46 is a good size. I bought one. It is normal to roll 45 cm of dough with a dough roller.
Alevtina, do you think you need a centimeter edging around the edges on paper? On Gefovskaya they did without edging, the design is stable, I can shoot the legs from the other side, if interested.

[Loksa]

Loksa, Oksana, Thank you so much! Very clear and understandable. The background and color of the ruler are well chosen.
Elena TimDo you see what size the dumplings are for Gefushka's dumplings for 6 dumplings? Gefushka's dumpling length together with the "skirt" is 9.2 cm versus 7.8 cm on a virtual dumpling. The height of Gefu's dumpling with a "skirt" is 4.6 cm versus 4 cm on a virtual dumpling. The width of the "skirt" is 7-8 mm versus 5 mm on the virtual one. So the virtual dumpling has the smallest possible size, and at the same time, virtual dumplings can be placed 18 pieces against 6 dumplings on the Gefu form.
Oh, how I like the "corrugated skirt" on Gefushka! Well, very beautiful! Do not add, do not subtract, well, just right!

And finish the shape well with dumplings that do not create a circle, then there is less trimming around the edges

But this is very efficient!

[Loksa]

Elena Tim, Do you see the size of Gefushka's dumplings for 6 dumplings?

I see, Al, and I like your dumplings even more, because they are less!
Leave it as it is, don't you dare increase aaaat! Dumplings, I have in go, not a form.
I will not say another word, on the contrary, the current pus ostutstsa my already beloved 7.8 centimeters!

Loksa, Oksanochka, thank you very much for not being too lazy to take a picture of my uniform and show the difference. So, if you say that your dumplings are not very large, then "OUR" 7.8 (which I almost adore to tears) will be just right!

If you add another row of halves of dumplings, just the width of the form turns out to be 13-14 cm. And finish the form well with dumplings that do not create a circle, then there is less trimming around the edges. In total, I got a shape for 6 pieces + 4 pieces (2 pieces were added at the edges) and + 5 another row of halves: only 15 dumplings with a mold size: 14cm (Max) by 45cm ~ 46cm (5 dumplings * 9cm). 14 * 46 is a good size. I bought one. It is normal to roll 45 cm of dough with a dough roller.
Alevtina, do you think you need a centimeter edging around the edges on paper? On Gefovskaya they did without edging, the design is stable, I can shoot the legs from the other side, if interested.

Here, here, the height of the form is interesting. And I'm very interested in the look of the legs. But I put a 1 cm edging from the edges so that a stencil for sprinkling with flour lay on this edging. Although. if done without edging at all in the likeness of your varenichnitsa. then the edging will not be needed. But there remains the problem of legs for a long varenychitsa. There is simply nowhere to place them without edging. And if done without edging, then there should be a model of the highest quality and an equally expensive high-precision casting by foundry workers. It seems to me very doubtful to provide such a high quality of casting in our conditions.

[Elena Tim]

Elena Tim, Creamy, girls my dumplings for two bites, the size of a tablespoon. Only a spoon so full, not "for guests." Well, a bite on such a normal mouth-beak, although it can be divided into three bites - for intelligent beaks. dumplings are generally the right food, but you can't stuff them whole, it's not very convenient to chew. I will say honestly, I sculpt a little more dumplings with my hands and calmly divide them into three bites! PATAMUSHA I do not like to mess around for a long time.
how I measured your dumplings with bites

I really want dumplings and dumplings! Krasnodar!

I couldn't find the current number, but I need 2 pcs (preferably aluminum)

[Creamy]

Creamy, Alevtina! I wish you buckets and patience in this, as it turned out, not an easy task !!!
We all hope for you !!!
And we hope that all the same your work will not be in vain !!!! And there will be a happy ending for this so necessary business !!!!!
Thank you!!!!

[Seven-year plan]

Seven-year plan, , thank you for support! I send letters to all cities and towns, but manufacturers cannot believe that there can be so many crazy housewives, and so deeply crazy, to pay the appropriate money for these forms.

manufacturers can't believe there can be so many crazy housewives

There is! There is! This is WE, WE, WE !!! The most crazy ones!

[Alevtina]

Alevtina, missed the message - here's a photo of the legs, by the way, they weren't too lazy and screwed soft rubber bands to the legs? And Schaub did not slip the form! Feel the depth of technical thought. Hide a photo of them later, but I don't know how I'll try again!

Oh, thank you very much! Very interesting! Inside out, the professional will immediately show the sprue system (a system of tubes through which molten metal enters the mold)

So can you still get a better inside out? Here's another

Yes, it is advisable to take a picture so that a little more than half of the wrong side of the forms is included in the frame, more precisely, so that a little more than half of the wrong side of the form is in the entire frame.

So you see? I am photographing with a balalaika - aypadOm quality is not very good and the light is weak. It turned out a little at an angle, but the points are visible.

I can't believe that there can be so many crazy housewives, and so deeply crazy,

If only men thought so. And even some women think so !!!
Then this is definitely a clinic !!!
But it’s a thrill for us !!! And let them think what they want !!!

There is! There is! This is WE, WE, WE !!! The most crazy ones!

!!!! !!!

Creamy, I am amazed at your persistence !!! I have not met this before, honestly I even registered to answer you.
On this topic. You say there are few people who would like to order a dumpling maker. In fact, of those who already have a noodle cutter, I think many, many, if not all, would buy such a thing. I myself have dreamed of buying a dough sheeter for a long time. And having studied their sizes I already figured out, how am I going to lay out the dough on this round dumpling maker?
So there are not enough of those who would like a dumpling maker, but those who have dough rollers at all. Our people have been brought up by generations of people of the old school - to do everything yourself. For example, washing with your hands (especially bed linen) is really hellish work, so now everyone has a washing machine, but washing dishes is generally not so difficult and long, just lazy, so few people have dishwashers.
This is all I need - to buy a noodle cutter is a whole problem. You cannot go to the store and buy (at least in the regions), and accordingly, people do not even know that this very difficult work (rolling itself) can be facilitated with the help of a special machine. Well, after all, our mothers-grandmothers did everything themselves. And now the store is filled with ready-made dumplings, pasties, noodles, why do they need a dough roll?
And here's why: macaroni-macaroni, but their own noodles are a hundred times tastier, and some grandmothers did not make their own noodles, people do not even know how delicious it is. Dumplings are now very bad, delicious dumplings cost from 500 rubles per kilogram package. It's not just expensive - it's VERY expensive. But I know from my friends that people eat tasteless dumplings, because tasty dumplings are expensive, and there is no time to sculpt or laziness themselves.
Well, in general, you can talk on this topic for a long time. But I want to note that, for example, an absolutely useless, in my opinion, device - an egg cooker - is in stores! Even in our small town! Well, are you going to boil the eggs? put it in a saucepan and cook for yourself! Well, 10 minutes, no effort, no Duc - they buy egg cookers. And making dumplings is not one hour of fuss! And there are no dough rollers ((
And the secret of untwisted not too necessary household appliances like the same egg cooker, I think, is that they are actively promoted in all kinds of stores on the couch and TV shops. Steam generators are also everywhere, but they appeared in TV shops initially. With your persistence and perseverance, you can safely involve TV shops that will sell cheap Chinese dough sheeters at exorbitant prices, and these dumplings, naturally included in the price of the dough sheeter, will go to them as a "gift". The demand, I think, will be very good, considering how they are able to attractively paint their devices. And if you write a business plan and work out the cost-profit in detail, then you will earn good money on a percentage of sales!
P. S. I would also buy such a dumpling maker, it's just the price of one pack of good dumplings

[Vatrushkina]

Vatrushkina, thank you very much for your attention to the topic, thoughts and advice. You specially registered to answer me - and this is already worth a lot! I even registered and posted an appeal on a forum where manufacturers and wholesalers of dishes and kitchen appliances hang out. So what? But nothing! They read in silence. My appeal was referred to the topic "General". I also wrote letters to those who send aluminum molds all over Russia for making homemade caramel in the form of cockerels on the Internet. They weren't interested either. The plant in Belarus, which pours round dumplings, generally ignored my letter. But, if the prospective production worker goes into this topic, then what voting results will he see? He needs at least a certain number of potential buyers for the project to become simply profitable. Yes, and this crisis with courses. But I'm not giving up yet, I just physically can't send letters to everyone.
Or maybe forum users who are strong in Photoshop will help me to reproduce the same virtual aluminum dumpling maker and dumpling maker for the width of the dough sheeter-noodle maker from the photo of the aluminum dumpling maker? Can anyone do this? Perhaps photomontage will help us to visualize the project in reality.

[Al]

Al, this is to Irina Dollars and Manna, here we have who the heroines of Photoshop!

I also wrote letters to those who send aluminum molds all over Russia for making homemade caramel in the form of cockerels on the Internet. They weren't interested either. The plant in Belarus, which pours round dumplings, generally ignored my letter.

Italians in Marcato need to write - will make an appendix to their Atlases

[Creamy]

CreamyAlevtina! Good evening! And I really want the molds! I would take 2 dumplings and 2 for dumplings. Krasnodar region.

[Alevtina]

Alevtina, for this not a photoshop is needed))) Send me the exact dimensions, probably better in a personal. All thicknesses, heights, diameter of the legs, etc.

p. from. would also buy a dumplings better aluminum

[Lettera]

Lettera, thanks, Sister! It's late now, and tomorrow I will send all sizes to PM.

But the bekkers use a raviolica type. We would be that type.

I'm thinking - the most versatile option is the form of dumplings. Whoever doesn't like it, they can blind the corners. so that there is a form of dumplings.
(if anything - I also take a queue for the form)

And you turned to these - 🔗 ?
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"Leda" Belgorod, OOO
Household production. aluminum products
Belgorod, st. Kommunalnaya, 4, +380667119593
They also make large forms for dumplings and dumplings.

[Pichenka]

Pichenka, thank you so much for the information! You are a true friend! I started looking for information about Leda LLC in Belgorod, on the subject of what part of the casting of aluminum products takes from the total volume of all activities. This is to know. how interesting we will be to them with our project. Here's what I found in official sources:
Joint private and foreign property, registered in May 2010, activities - metal and metal products, scrap metal, aluminum alloys, casting from aluminum alloys, while 4-products are cast - dumplings, dumplings, large and small hammers for beating meat., wholesale of non-food products, cargo transportation, rental of transport, agricultural, construction and specialized equipment, real estate services (sale, registration in ownership, rent), collection services for debt collection, secretarial services. editors and translators.
The declared weight of the dumplings is 250 grams, the weight of the dumplings is 250 grams. My round dumplings turned out to be just their product, weighing just 250 grams. I measured the thickness of the body of this dumpling maker - it turned out to be only 4.3 mm against the required thickness of 10 mm for the normal formation of a hemispherical shape of a good dumpling. Height with ribs and feet is only 20.6 mm. Have you come across modern light and thin dumplings on sale? This is exactly what their products are. Reflection question "How big is the share of proceeds from the production of dumplings and dumplings in the total income from all types of activities to start our project?"