A plate of bread - how to make?

Dear citizens and women, this picture really excited me. But at close range I cannot understand how THIS is done. There is a saucepan in which the bread was baked. But the dough rises during baking. How does it get exactly that shape?
dragged, by the way, from here: 🔗

[Sveta]

Sveta, Hi
maybe they fall asleep with something on top of the dough, gold piastres or peas?
Schaub did not rise, what do you think?

I thought about that. and the walls? I cannot understand at all whether it is yeast or not. the aunt who invented it says that the bread is according to the traditional Greek recipe. there, apparently, everything is very simple, but I'm dull.

[sweetka]

sweetka, You agree matzo -filo that is, you thought?

unlike me.

and not a puff, and not a pancake
maybe on sour cream, I don't know anything about that

Or maybe this is an ordinary round-shaped bread, from which the crumb was taken out? Only the "lid" was baked separately ...
Look at the photo inside this dish

here it looks in more detail:

Elena Molokhovets had recipes called "Pates". They are in a dough form with a dough lid. We need to look there. The book is called "A Gift for Young Housewives". It was released in 18 .. year. It was posted on the Internet.

Olchik, I even seem to have it in paper form, I have to look. and from those links to pates that you sent me, I really liked the idea of ​​freezing the text in the desired form. Yeast. then it should not grow much in shape. What do you think, comrades?

Maybe we can save it so we don't get lost? 🔗
But what if..

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Light, and those are straight of such a shape, right ?? It's just that in Hungary I ate soup from a bread plate, but it was made simply and ordinary bread. The top was cut off (lid), the crumb was gouged out and the soup was poured into it.

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Omelichek, that's exactly what I like. in bread I saw, did and ate - everything is ok. But in this case, as you can see in the photo, the workpiece is placed inside the pan and baked in this form. AS? the dough cannot be thin, since hotter it would immediately soak and it would flow. but at the same time it keeps its shape, and does not rise like a loaf or cake. AS??? yyyyyyyyy ...

[Sveta]

Sveta,
I remembered that the decorations on top of the loaves were molded from dough, so I came across such a hard and salty - salted.
I had to try it once in my life.
Maybe this is also decorative?

No, David, it's edible. There is a comb in the kit - make holes on the lid. After baking, the lid breaks beautifully into 4 parts - such edible spoons are obtained. People eat out of this trough, and then eat both the spoons and the saucepan.
PS: as if eating an edible loaf, and not a dummy?

The loaf was delicious, and the coloryechki - ornamental and salty

Sveta, well then I don't know ...

But the option, you cook the soup, and I will drive up and take off - so be out of the saucepan
only more meat

Well, then with the beans inside, like shortcrust pastry for pies is baked. Or put casters with a smaller diameter on the dough so that it presses.

By color - like Napoleon

But the option, you cook the soup, and I will drive up and take off - so be out of the saucepan
only more meat

Then, as an honest man, you will be obliged to marry me. Do you need it?

Well, then with the beans inside, like shortcrust pastry for pies is baked. Or put casters with a smaller diameter on the dough so that it presses.

then the set would include a saucepan of a smaller diameter. since she even put the combs for the holes in the set. and the second casserole netuti :)

[Svetka]

Svetka,

Do you need it?

Huh, I'll just find myself in kapts and sweatpants in the kitchen eating a bowl of savory soup
Scared, it's scary only for the first time

Scared, it's scary only for the first time

So my old friend said after my divorce. by the way, now he has the 7th marriage.

Huh, I'll just find myself in kapts and sweatpants in the kitchen eating a bowl of savory soup

oh, way world, you think very well about mine.

[Sveta]

Sveta, yes, I think, but sho there is reason to doubt

Prince, why do you need this? I'll beguile you to death! (FROM)

Oh, how interesting you are here! I'll stand and listen.

Not "I will listen", but we take an active part in the discussion of the recipe! Bo this plate of unknown dough is like a thorn in my life!

[from different dough]

I only worry about one thing
- are we with you from different dough made

kind of on the topic

Tsakhes, it is only empirically found out. Ask experienced bakers: only daily and high-quality practice!

[sweetka]

sweetka, we draw up a contract, yatd

my favorite anecdote on the topic:
- Zhora, hold my mac, I'll show this guy how the Odessa sea is raging!
....
- Zhora, shake me off the wall, ships are also being built in Kherson!

[sweetka]

sweetkahold my mac and roasted seeds

no, I'm not like that at all, I'm very modest

So, I have to tell you.
The dough is used here with a scanty amount of yeast, like here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=172093.0 But most likely rye flour is used, judging by the color. Although rye flour is low in gluten ... well, you can add a little gluten.
By form. It is possible that the dough is generally bland and steep, then during baking it will not rise even once, and the pricked bottom will not blow it out with a hump.

Shaw say?

I may be wrong, of course, but if you follow the logic - the traditional Greek uncomfortable bread is pita. Here is a recipe for pita and make a start. I don't know if there are rye pits, but why not?

[Tatyana]

Tatyanaplus the ancient Greeks

Cereals formed the basis of the diet. Wheat (σῖτος sitos) and barley were especially popular.
Wheat grains were first soaked to soften them, then ground into flour (ἀλείατα aleiata). The resulting flour was used to make dough, which was then used to make rolls (ἄρτος artos) or wafers.
Sometimes cheese or honey was added to the resulting products. There was no yeast at that time; instead, they used wine leaven. The buns made of dough were baked in a homemade clay oven (ἰπνός ipnos).

Making barley bread was much more difficult. First, the barley was roasted and only then ground into flour.
It was from this flour that the barley cake (μάζα), the main dish of Greek cuisine, was prepared.
In the comedy Peace, Aristophanes uses the expression ἔσθειν κριθὰς μόνας (literally “eat only barley”) in a meaning close to our habitual “sit on water and bread”.
Several recipes for barley cake are known; like wheat bread, it could be eaten with cheese or honey.

So, we'll get the recipe soon,

roasted barley was very suitable in color, and really

Colleagues, I ask you not to discount the fact that the set is supposed to be for the bourgeoisie, that is, with an intuitive interface, like a chamber pot. which means that it is hardly rye flour. To me this dough is very reminiscent of the dough from our local pizzeria: yeast-leavened, non-rich, yet with only a small amount of yeast. It is categorically not thick, but I cannot call it thin pizza either.

No, what kind of barley is there, now you can hardly buy it.

Sveta, I make yeast pizza dough with honey, a gorgeous recipe, something in between a tortilla and ordinary yeast.

It seems to me that the girls were right when they talked about baking the "plate" with the help of pea beans, but the "lid" is baked on the lid of the pan, and holds the shape and the holes are easy to make

I can't say anything about the beans and peas, but a small-diameter saucepan is not supposed to be there at all.
from this we sell. on the photo are thick, of course, only the sides themselves.

Sveta, I make yeast pizza dough with honey, a gorgeous recipe, something in between a tortilla and ordinary yeast.

Svetulik, sho for the recipe?

I am writing, tearing from my heart with blood.

flour 1 stack.
dry yeast 1 tsp
the water is warm. 1/3 stack
honey 0.5 tbsp. l.
grows up. oil 1 tbsp. l.
salt 1/4 tsp

This dough for pizza dia. 30 cm. I don’t really do the sides, well, I raise them a little. Just try it, now I only make this dough.

Svetochka,

Svetul, pay attention not to the recipe, but to the very molding of the sides! It's brilliant, that's the only thing I do now: Tyts

Well, to whom did I spoil the experiments?
Accept the report
I kneaded TWO doughs for a sample (a small piece)
Fresh on water without eggs with the addition of a drop of vegetable oil


And sweet fresh on mayonnaise and kefir WITHOUT water, baking powder and yeast


I have silicone molds in the form of small casseroles with lids. I put the dough inside (although there is an option to cover the pot outside) Well, this is for the purity of the experiment without the use of peas
The dough was not enough, so it did not reach the top edge of the casserole. But this is not the point. I need to touch the product at the exit and FSE Puncturing the test helps not to swell, but the lids I have all the same bent together with the form (silicone pliable: crazy: vybibulya). In color, the second dough is closer to the desired one, BUT ...
In terms of density, the first is more suitable to carry out the liquid in itself (on itself).
I assume that rye flour is added and maybe a drop (!) Of yeast

The third option to do?

oh-fi-get ... while I'm on the couch wrinkle ... the yellow pillow, Luda is already experimenting ...
Lyuyuyuyuooooeeeeeeek, it's me from an overabundance of feelings. We'll have to start yeast after all. I'm already ashamed in front of you.

: wow: In a joke!
You fuck it, huh? This is the most interesting to me. Yeah, make me do what I don't want
I'll try tomorrow On a plate and ON a plate with rye and yeast
No, well, really interesting

The article says there is a recipe attached to the "pot". We do not have, by any chance, fans who desperately need this pot?
It is necessary to ask Dopleta, she, as in the entoy of Chretia herself, "has a truncated"

but I will still remove something from the sofa and still start a yeast

The look at this "plate" reminded me of Soviet bread. And matzo. There is definitely something rye there.

No, what barley is there, now you can hardly buy it.

Yesterday I paid for Barley flour "Garnets" Weight: 500 gr. RUB 40 So you can buy.