lappl1
Quote: Yaso4ka
It was just when I was grinding and realized that something was wrong ... The granules were not very similar to granules ...
Yaso4ka, the granules crumble if the leaves are not sufficiently withered. An indicator of good wilting of leaves - if you squeeze a handful of leaves in your hand, then after unclenching your palm, the leaves will not crumble.
Omela
Quote: lappl1
In general, I start the list.
- fireweed;
- cherry;
- chokeberry;
- pear;
- Apple tree;
- strawberries (strawberries);
- currants;
- raspberry;
- plum;
- turn;
- quince;
- cherries;
- barberry;
- honeysuckle;
- peach;
- apricot;
- irga;
- viburnum;
- grapes;
- conifers ...
Luda, another rosehip. It is better to arrange the list in alphabetical order. IMHO

Voting is better than one in the subject. According to the shape of the tea (granular or leaf), I would not do it. Because it's understandable. that leaf is better. Only we do granular. there is no time for the sheet.

I would also ask the admin for the right to edit my themes and put on the first page in each of the themes:
1.here is this short instruction https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=389380.0

2. Old, about bacteria and why it is not necessary to wash the leaves.

3. information about meat grinders, what if there are plastic parts. it may cause damage

4. information about currants and raspberries, that it is better to freeze and twist them in a mixture, and if separately. what by hand

Maybe I missed something else. I just feel sorry for your time. that you answer the same questions almost every day.

something like this...
lappl1
Quote: Omela
another rosehip. It is better to arrange the list in alphabetical order. IMHO
Ksyusha, for sure! Alphabetically better! I will add rose hips.
Quote: Omela
I would also ask the admin for the right to edit my topics and put them on the first page in each topic
Oh, and I wanted to do this, but did not know how to call it. It is imperative to do ... I'll think about what is better to add there.
Quote: Omela
I just feel sorry for your time. that you answer the same questions almost every day.
Mistletoe, thank you for your concern ... I understand that people are not up to reading all the pages, so this will make life easier for everyone ...
Linadoc
Ludmila, Lyubochka, conifers - they are all different. I just twisted the pine tree, but dried the larch. I also look at the juniper, he is my "smoker on duty", so I think, can he wither-scroll-dry and then use these granules for smoking for a year? (I have been moving science all my life, brains are arranged this way, I wonder, and there are official patents, and I am an associate professor by title and position). I just wrote this for reflection.
francevna
Ludmila, to the list cherry plum add.
lappl1
Alla, added.
lappl1
Quote: Linadoc
conifers - they are all different.
Linadoc, I combined them, since the list is already long.
Quote: Linadoc
I look at the juniper, he is my "smoker on duty", so I think, can he wither-roll-dry and then use these granules for smoking for a year?
I'm not smoking boom-boom ...
Linadoc
Quote: lappl1
I'm not smoked boom boom

I understand, this is off-topic, but I use juniper when rubbing "raw materials for smoking", in sauces for smoked products, in fruit sawdust in foil (I make holes and put them in the grill when smoking). It is very useful for diseases of the urinary tract and edema; it is added to a mixture of all kinds of medicinal herbs for these diseases. And I just like its taste and aroma. In general, I will try and report back.
Omela
Today I played cherry-apple-currant. The last one is not frozen.
lappl1
Quote: Omela
The last one is not frozen.
And How? Didn't you pour?
Omela
Nope, everything scrolled normally together. The only thing was that there were least currants, and I took delicate light green leaves.
lappl1
Quote: Omela
Today I played cherry-apple-currant.
I have exactly one hanging in a bag - it dries.
And today I made fireweed with black chokeberry - two of my favorite plants ... I begged my neighbor for a little chokeberry. Says, come back later, as I pick the berries. The smell is very interesting. It stands now, fermented. I will dry in the morning ...
lappl1
Quote: Omela
everything scrolled normally together.
Hence, there is nothing to fool around with freezing. Well, if only do not one currant.
Now we need to scroll the raspberries with something. Only raspberries don't have a very strong aroma. I'm afraid the "filler" might overpower her taste and smell.
Omela
And I found a blackberry only in one place. Every day I walk by several times, hoping to see the hostess. ask for a pochikat and never meet.
Omela
Quote: lappl1
Hence, there is nothing to fool with freezing. Well, if only do not one currant.


Quote: lappl1
Now we need to scroll the raspberries with something.
I also think with what ???
lappl1
I think to try with an apple. The apple is not very smelling, but beautiful in color. And raspberries are not very bright in color. So they will complement each other.
Quote: Omela
And I found a blackberry only in one place. Every day I walk by several times, hoping to see the hostess. ask for a pochikat and never meet.
Like mine - also one bush per village. Be sure to do it! Awesome tea! Cherry cubed - in aroma and taste ...
Omela
Quote: lappl1
I think to try with an apple.
boom twist with apple!
lappl1
Agreed! I'll do it right tomorrow!
Loksa
The apple is not sticky, and even more so the raspberry. Tell us how it will come out later? OK?
Omela
Quote: Loksa
The apple is not sticky, and even more so the raspberry.
Actually, yes ... my apple crumbled.
Loksa
Girls, and I had a handful of quince, the same handful of meadowsweet, a handful of cherries, handfuls of two black currants and handfuls of 4 like viburnum - twisted it, took a little from all the packages so that the bouquet came out. Guess who won? Wash quince! Tea smells like plum jam Compote - in such a bouquet. Smells good
lappl1
Quote: Loksa
The apple is not sticky, and even more so the raspberry.
Quote: Omela
my apple crumbled.
Girls, my apple has not crumbled. In general, let's try!
paramed1
You can also add bird cherry and sea buckthorn to the list.
lappl1
Veronica, added. I also added meadowsweet.
Tomorrow I'll ask the chief to insert a vote. Maybe someone else will remember.
Light
oh, girls, I'm muddying, don't understand what ...
The significant figure, picked up the leaves of the blackberry, put it on a rag in the bathhouse to dry out with the door open ...
Then I brought all this home six hours later, at first I tried it by email. scrolling through the meat grinder ... I was afraid that she was a tryndets arrival, it was too hard for her ... She took a prehistoric manual meat grinder, the first scrolls went well, I think I'll scroll everything so quickly ... Everything was hammered and rammed, that some kind of cake inside the meat grinder turned out, disassembled, assembled, began to twist again, the same song! I got sausages in my bowl, and torn pieces of leaves ... And then I thought, and go to the kitchen. chop the combine, chop it up and let it spin so that the pieces become wet, that is, the juice stands out ... I put all this crumbly mess in one bowl and covered it with a damp cloth ... Will it be useful?
Tell me, do you need to be sure to have twisted leaves (meat grinder sausages and hand-rolled rings)? Ioi just need to be crushed and so that the leaf will juice out a little? Something I do not understand !!!
And even today I was driving from the dacha and saw whole thickets of fireweed! But after all, I don't have the strength and patience to twist and disassemble the meat bowl every minute! And I want a tea!
IvaNova
Quote: Light

I put all this mess in one bowl and covered it with a damp cloth ... Will it be useful?
Tell me, do you need to be sure to have twisted leaves (meat grinder sausages and hand-rolled rings)? Ioi just need to be crushed and so that the leaf will juice out a little? Something I do not understand !!!
And even today I was driving from the dacha and saw whole thickets of fireweed! But after all, I don't have the strength and patience to twist and disassemble the meat bowl every minute! And I want a tea!
will be
I did the last call of fireweed like this
- I froze it at night (now I am freezing everything, the domestic animals do not let them dry. And fireweed is generally picked out from under all the sheets and gnawed)
- in the morning, without defrosting, I pochikala small with scissors (there was no time to twist the rolls). While she was cutting, he thawed
- I shook this "cut" with my hands until the juice was released and sculpted with balls (like meatballs)
- I put the balls tightly in the container and put the oppression on top. It was fermented interestingly - judging by the color and smell, the degree of fermentation inside the balls and outside was slightly different (inside the balls the raw material was greener)
- dried in the oven
there are two minuses - it dries for a long time (I gave a lot of juice) and takes up a lot of space
and so it looks like a large leaf tea
I haven't brewed it yet (mixed with the rolls made earlier, and hung it up to wind). But it smells good and looks good
maybe I'll take a picture later. But I do not promise - the home computer is not friendly with the fotik, but there is no access to the worker now
Omela
Quote: Light
But after all, I don't have the strength and patience to twist and disassemble the meat bowl every minute!
Sveta, I also twist by hand. Fireweed goes without any problems at all. But the rest is, yes, difficult. I don’t disassemble the meat grinder, but when it clogs I twist it in the opposite direction, take out this cake, shove it again and put new leaves on top, as if pressing it. Usually the cake is pushed by the leaves and goes on normally for a while. But then again you have to repeat. In the end. when the leaves are gone, I take out this cake, clean it off. what is left in the meat grinder, and I put it on the bottom of the container. where I ferment. I already spread the granules on top and press it. The result is both granules and leaves. I like.

It seems to me that there is no need to cut with a combine. IMHO.
Light
IvaNova, Omela, girls, thanks for the opinion!

Mistletoe, I turned the meat grinder back and cleaned it off with a knife - it doesn't help! When I disassembled the meat grinder, the leaves there stuck around the screw, like asphalt, I broke off this cake in pieces and kneaded it with my hands ...
I wrote the previous message from the tablet, I could not upload a photo ... Wait a minute I went from my computer, here is a photo ...
this is in a combine with and without flash:
Country tea (fermented) - seven in one Country tea (fermented) - seven in one

Girls, if I leave him for the night, is it not critical? and dry in the morning? otherwise I already have 23.36, I won't sit!
Is oppression necessary? Or is it just a wet cloth?
Omela
It turned out fine. I don’t know about oppression, it will not be worse for sure. Of course, you can leave it overnight.

Quote: Light
When I disassembled the meat grinder, the leaves there around the screw stuck like asphalt,
You tell me .. I see this picture every day.
IvaNova
Quote: Light

IvaNova, Omela, girls, thanks for the opinion!
Girls, and if I leave him for the night, is it not critical? and dry in the morning? otherwise I already have 23.36, I won't sit!
Is oppression necessary? Or is it just a wet cloth?
if the leaf is dry, then I would put oppression
and if he gave juice, then maybe it is not necessary
Light
Quote: Omela

You tell me .. I see this picture every day.
I cannot give such a load every day to my sore hands in the joints ... I will have to cut the rolls with scissors, or maybe I will adapt to grind on a combine ...
Omela
Ivan tea spins normally. But I typed the blackberry for the first time, she generally has such hard leaves .. I really don't even know how it will spin.
lappl1
Quote: Omela
But I typed the blackberry for the first time, she generally has such hard leaves .. I really don't even know how it will spin.
Light, Omela, it will turn badly. Cherry and black chokeberry - lovers of a meat grinder to hammer. Even electric. Therefore, I often turn on the reverse (and am afraid for my grinder). But since cherries and blackberries are the most delicious tea for me, then having crossed himself, twist them.
Light, do not be afraid to twist fireweed in a meat grinder. This is almost the lightest sheet in this regard.
lappl1
Quote: Light
do you need to be sure to have twisted leaves (meat grinder sausages and hand-rolled rings)? Ioi just need to be crushed and so that the leaf will juice out a little? Something I do not understand !!!
Light, the most important thing is to achieve maximum juice release from the withered leaf. This will be difficult for your hands. Grinding is not the most important thing. You can also ferment a whole leaf - see the next topic about this method in answer # 200 on p.eleven https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=389380.200 In this method, there is no withering, but there is freezing. Only the volume of the finished tea will be large.
lappl1
Quote: Omela
It seems to me that there is no need to chop on a combine. IMHO.
I also think so. We need to destroy the surface of the leaf as much as possible and achieve the release of juice from its surface. This will make the fermentation process most efficient. This can be done by crushing the sheet through twisting, freezing, or twisting in a meat grinder. And in the combine there will be a simple chopping of the leaf. Part of the sheet surface will, of course, collapse on the combine. But only a part. And the fermentation process will be weaker.
lappl1
Quote: Light
Is oppression necessary? Or is it just a wet cloth?
Light, I, of course, answer late and your tea is already fermented. But still ... The photo shows that the leaf is dry. Bending on such tea is a must. And first it would be necessary to crush the chopped mass with your hands. And with a rolling pin, crush it properly.
lappl1
Quote: IvaNova
if the leaf is dry, then I would put pressure if I gave juice, then maybe it is not necessary
IvaNova, I support!
lappl1
Quote: lappl1
I think to try with an apple. The apple is not very smelling, but beautiful in color. And raspberries are not very bright in color. So they will complement each other.
Omelhow are you? Made a raspberry with an apple?
Today I collected apple and raspberry leaves (the same amount). I passed the cherries. The soul could not stand it, tore off 100 grams of leaves. Added there too. Everything is twisted perfectly! The granules are very strong! Now I'm fermenting. I will dry it in the morning.
Light
lappl1, thanks for such a detailed explanation!
It turns out that I started to master tea making from the toughest leaf ... While I don't really feel the consistency, I can't understand how much juice should stand out, but at the exit the leaf turned out to be slippery-sticky when dried ... By the way, before the night I still put the oppression of 1.5 liters.
Boom to train!
lappl1
Quote: Light
but at the exit, the sheet pernd by drying turned out to be slippery, sticky ...
Light, such a leaf of cherries and blackberries happens after a meat grinder. Apparently their juice is so sticky.
Quote: Light
It turns out that I started to master tea making from the toughest leaf ...
And in my opinion, the most delicious! Something you about the smell during drying did not write anything. Usually he fights beginners on the spot ... But me and still ...
Quote: Light
Boom to train!
Good luck!
lappl1
Quote: lappl1
I gathered today apple and raspberry leaves (the same number). Passed by cherries... The soul could not stand it, tore off 100 grams of leaves. Added there too. Everything is twisted perfectly! The granules are very strong! Now I'm fermenting. I will dry it in the morning.
Girls, I have this tea ready. It remains only to dry in the bag. I could not stand it, now I brewed it for lunch. In general, I am delighted with this tea. Not a single scent is still in the tea, but the overall taste is wonderful! The taste is slightly tart. Fermented for 11 hours. I decided to "fry" it a little in the oven at the first stage of drying. First, I set the temperature to 125 * C. Dried like this, stirring constantly for about 1 hour. Then she slowed down to 100 * C. And also dried for 1 hour. And then she just turned off the oven and went to the meadow for fireweed. She came from the meadow, poured it into a bag, having previously poured a little for a sample. And this is what happened:

Country tea (fermented) - seven in one

Conclusion: you can twist raspberries and currants in a meat grinder with other leaves. Then they will not crumble. The addition of a small amount of cherry leaves enriches any tea. Now my fireweed + cherry + currant is drying up. Haven't brewed yet, but the smell is promising.
In general, I will still make this tea. And more than once!
Loksa
Conclusion: you can twist raspberries and currants in a meat grinder with other leaves. Then they will not crumble.

And I also think and will not let the sticky leaves clog the meat grinder yet, even easier granulation.
Matilda_81
That week, in a meat grinder, I scrolled the currant + cherry + apple + plum + raspberry + blackberry + rosehip and seasoned everything with fireweed, the stock was stunning. This week I made fireweed separately. And the mixtures were such as cherry + meadowsweet + rosehip + barberry + raspberry and apple + pear, yesterday I sat with my nose in salad bowls, blissed me out most of all I was satisfied with the option with a meat grinder, until my meat grinder grumbles, turns quickly, the granules are strong.
Omela
Quote: Matilda_81
until my grinder grumbles
Gulnara, and what is yours ???
Matilda_81
I have a Zelmer meat grinder. (Zelmer) in terms of power, I'll look at home then add it.
Omela
Yeah, send me her name in PM, pzhl. And then I already broke my whole head, which one to take.
Matilda_81
: Friends: agreed, I'll get to the house and write necessarily!
lappl1
Quote: Matilda_81
And the mixes were such cherry + meadowsweet + rosehip + barberry + raspberry and apple + pear, yesterday I sat with my nose in salad bowls, blissed out
Gulnara, and I fly away from the mixed smells ...
Quote: Matilda_81
I was most satisfied with the option with a meat grinder
I, too, with a meat grinder like "country" more. Easier, faster, tastier, more aromatic ...
IvaNova
virgins, i'm in thought
it costs a handful of leaf cherries and sea buckthorn (and if the cherry is wet and smells like cherry, then the sea buckthorn (albeit under oppression) is all hard-dried and I don't understand what smells)
I’m thinking - put to dry or leave until morning?
so my "morning" tomorrow may come in 12 hours, and in 16
I will probably put
it's better to under-ferment than burn out
lappl1
Quote: IvaNova
a handful of leaf cherries and sea buckthorn
IvaNova, isn't the volume too small? In what size pot do you ferment? It is necessary that the layer is at least 5 cm. This usually happens to me. And the last few batches are 10 cm layer. I like the result with this layer height better.
Quote: IvaNova
sea ​​buckthorn (albeit under yoke) is all hard-dried and I don't understand what smells)
I approached sea buckthorn (grows from neighbors). As soon as I didn't try to wrinkle it, I couldn't smell it. And the leaves are so small that I did not dare to take her for tea. Apparently, such a feature of sea buckthorn is to be dry. I did the same with blueberries - I could not crumple them properly and achieve juice release. As a result, the tea did not work out very well.
Quote: IvaNova
I’m thinking - put to dry or leave until morning? so my "morning" tomorrow may come in 12 hours, and in 16
Will not burn out in 16 hours. I have been fermenting for more than 24 hours now. True, the leaves are not dry. These ferment well.

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