My bread in Panasonic - observation diary

24.12.2009
Dear ones !!!
Here she is, dear, bread maker Ranasonichek 255 !!!!!! (NOT advertising, but an impulse of the soul)
My happiness, a real great joy. How much I wanted her (bread maker) ... oh, mamma-daragaya !!!
Lord, if only everything worked out !!!
Girls, I'm here, but with the unit!
I already know all the i-neta recipes by heart, now the most difficult thing is practice.
Kisses to all!

25.12.2009
Tonight, baptizing and lamenting, I loaded food for French bread.
Scary, already horror ... But ... I made up my mind. I put it on a timer for a period of 9-30, that is, it will be in the morning. I doubt it strongly. Although .... everyone succeeds in the end.
I found out empirically that the "French" program does not include volume and crust.
That's okay, right?
It turned out "Yes!"

In our house, the main baker is the Cat Pusya. Showed such a keen interest from the moment the stove came to life until the moment the loaf was pulled out.
Firstly, we were very worried about whether the process would start. Has begun!!! Here we are with Koteya at 3 o'clock in the morning, without saying a word, instantly rushed to the stove. The sounds, I will report to you, are very ambiguous. We're a little scared. Especially the cat. Crawled to the stove on his bellies and all 4 hours without taking his eyes off he controlled the process. I couldn't stand it, went to sleep, woke up just in time for unloading.



BEAUTIFULLY!!! And most importantly, what happened, although doubts were overwhelming ...



French baked according to the recipe in the instructions and added dark sesame seeds - beautifully cut. It is also interesting that the longer it lies, the tastier and more elastic it becomes.
It was from Friday to Saturday, and on Saturday she baked rye on "live" unfiltered beer, also according to the recipe in the tool, put 40 g of dry kvass with malt (brewed).
A very difficult process. It rose 1.5 times, but rather heavy, although it tastes good. We must try another recipe.
01.01.2010
Oh, citizens, a terrible secret was revealed, and I suspected somewhere in my soul, but och gubo. It turns out that my dear husband for the New Year, nevertheless, bought me a bread maker, but he carefully concealed it and created a formidable effect: "What would this muck in our house, I won't buy you nivzhist and I forbid you to buy it myself." In general, what is called outplayed.
And since I wanted this Pie for 5-7 years, and recently, when all my acquaintances have already surrounded us (most of them have already appeared and everyone is happy to faint), I had no choice but to "let the chef talk about my unearthly dream," as a prize I received this DREAM. I brought it home a week before the New Year. The husband was probably crying. And for the new year, giving me other gifts, he opened.
And I literally lost my living bonus money ................. .....
Here they are the vicissitudes of fate ...
The second (though not the 255, 254 model) is now going to be presented to mom on the DR. She also seemed to want to take care of it a little, when we would have played enough on ours and gave it to her.
Here is a lucky woman! And we too !!!

This is the fourth time I bake. Now "egg bread" at the maximum volume, I added 50 g of peeled flour to the 1st grade flour.
Prescription HP. With one peculiarity! I kneaded och for a long time twice for 15 minutes on the "pizza" mode, that is, with heating, then on the usual "main" mode, quick baking.
!!!!! Doesn't smell like yeast at all. It was kneaded very well and stood, that is, like a dough with 1 lining. Well porous and resilient, and a very large loaf turned out, for 1 kg. Impossible tasty !!!

Natasha-Pusya, congratulations on your dream come true! I understand and share your delight, since not so long ago I myself became a happy stove owner. And do not doubt that you will never get bored of baking bread, this is a very drug addict business (in a good way).
Happy loaves!
Special greetings to Puse

How he looks at bread! How much thoughtfulness! (he just won me over)

Great thank you!!!
Yes-ah-ah, Pusya is still that philosopher, and here he is also a participant in the process. And now he sees the result of 4-hour observations.

I continue to keep a diary.

03.01.2010
To the question: "What is the difference between 254 and 255. Which one to take?"

The 254 does not have a rye program or a dispenser - containers for nuts and raisins and other tasty little things. The rye bread program involves a longer proofing period at a higher temperature. The 255 Panasonic has a spatula for rye bread and can be purchased separately at the service center. Bread from rye flour in rye mode is not very good.
I only baked rye once and now I am looking for new recipes and "folk technologies" for making and baking rye bread. I'm careful!
A very good effect is given by mixing on the "pizza" program 2 times for 15 minutes and then again on the full "rye" program. Here on the site ALL information is there!
Then the dough will be lighter, and the bread will be more porous.
In addition, folk experience suggests that rye turns out better on the "diet" program, which is also available in 254, and viscous ingredients get stuck in the dispenser and not all fall out, it suits, in an amicable way, only for seeds and nuts, but I still I did not use it, I add everything at once or sprinkle it on top carefully !!!!!! after raising the dough. I do this: I open the lid halfway, quickly grease the top with either a beaten egg or salted water and sprinkle with seeds or sesame seeds or coarse salt.
Excellent !!!!!
That's all I understood for myself, using the 255 oven and deeply studying the results of the discussion of baking in the Internet.

For large volumes, it is convenient for me in grams simply because there is an electronic scale: fast and accurate, and for salt-sugar a measuring spoon and a measuring cup for liquid.

P.S. Although, ask me, what would I buy 254 or 255?
I, by my broad nature, would take 255.

[Thus, when baking bread with the "Basic" program, the "bake rapid" is suitable twice, with one kneading of the dough when rising.]

01/03/2010 (already evening)

Thank you very much for your attention to us with Pusya.

I discovered an important thing for myself! It turns out that during the execution of the "Main" program there is, like this ... a dough bump.

In the instructions there is not even a word about the existence of this "flashing" in the programs.
And it is, but is not indicated in the table, it happens somewhere in the middle from the beginning of the "rise".
And all Poseika's cat is mine. He walked, walked, and suddenly, as he roused himself and sat down at the stove, he tensed. The TV is loud and I didn’t immediately hear the stirring sounds. I also came up - this valve works and kneads the dough that has already risen slightly. At first I got scared - the machine went off. But sweat, when the dough rose again, I realized that it was a crush of dough.

Thus, when baking bread with the "Basic" program, the "bake rapid" is suitable twice, with one kneading of the dough when rising.

Here's another way to find out when the ingredients are dropped from the dispenser ??? Greatly necessary.

About 1.5 hours from the beginning of the "rest" This sound cannot be missed, I still shudder, I think "that it was the children who overturned, broke again"

He-he-heeeee, eeeh ...
Yes, I also heard a sound, but I did not think about the stove until I listened and the Cat did not suggest.

Now I have baked onion bread with olives, adapted someone's recipe.
The story of how the hell was placed in the Recipes "Choosing a Bread Recipe", suddenly someone will come in handy.

01.01.2010
Oh, citizens, a terrible secret was revealed, and I suspected somewhere in my soul, but och gubo. It turns out that my dear husband for the New Year, nevertheless, bought me a bread maker, but he carefully concealed it and created a formidable effect: "What would this muck in our house, I won't buy you nivzhist and I forbid you to buy it myself." In general, what is called outplayed.
And since I wanted this Pie for 5-7 years, and recently, when all my acquaintances have already surrounded us (most of them have already appeared and everyone is happy to faint), I had no choice but to "let the chef talk about my unearthly dream," as a prize I received this DREAM. I brought it home a week before the New Year. The husband was probably crying.And for the new year, giving me other gifts, he opened.
And I literally lost my living bonus money ................. .....
Here they are the vicissitudes of fate ...
The second (though not the 255, 254 model) is now going to be presented to mom on the DR. She also seemed to want to take care of it a little, when we would have played enough on ours and gave it to her.
Here is a lucky woman! And we too !!!

Congratulations! About husband, boss, money and mother-in-law. Consider that you are still in a big plus, even in several.
1. The husband really listens to your wishes very much (even if it took a long time, but he wanted to fulfill your Dream).
2. You helped the Chef to raise his self-esteem (to demonstrate that he is a Good Fairy for his subordinates), to show what specifically he values ​​you (again, he fulfilled your dream) - this is also cool.
3. Money ... They have the ability to flow away without a trace.
4. You will most likely give your mother-in-law one more hobby and she will be grateful to you for such a wonderful toy.

[Rina72]

Rina72, Thank you! Gold words!!!
In any situation, there are more advantages than it seems at the very beginning.

Well, since this is my diary, then I will build in here the history of onion bread with olives (how the moderators will look) will only slightly revise it.

I found a recipe from another site, but some kind of joint (a cup, and how much, I found out that about 150g).
Now I have adapted it for Panasonic 255.

Onion bread with olives.

* 1 +1/2 onion heads,
* 1 tbsp. l. olive oil,
Onion cut into thin half rings turned out 160g + 20g of olive oil (1.5 tbsp. L). After frying, all together it turned out 120g.

* 1/2 cup chopped olives (80g = 40g olives and 40g olives)
* 3 cups bread flour (i.e. 450g, I used 600g for medium size)
* 3/4 ​​cup of water (eh-ge-ge, it was difficult here, 3/4 of 150g is 112.5g very little, in general, for 600g of flour I needed 310g of water (300g is possible).
* 1 tbsp. l. Sahara,
* 1h. l. salt,
* 1 + 1 / 2h. l. dry yeast,
* 2 tsp dry parsley.

Here, probably, it is good to work with the dispenser, but I folded everything at once and the olives crumbled a little while stirring. It was better to put them in the disp-r.
I put it in Panasonic 255 like this:
- 1.5 tbsp. l. dry yeast,
- 600g double sifted flour (Granmulino tried it),
- 1 tbsp. l. Sahara,
- 1 tsp. salt,
- 80g chopped olives (40g) and black olives (40g),
- 120g ready-made dressing of fried onions in vegetable oil (160g raw onions and 20g olive oil),
- 300 ml of warm water.
Parsley was not at home, I managed without it.
"Basic bread" - "bake rapid" -size L-medium crust- "Start"
In total, about 1135 was laid.
The output of the finished cooled bread is 1035g. Here's how. The liquid has evaporated.

I cut off the crust, looked closely and decided that water needed a little less than 20-25 grams.

And here are the photos of "Onion Bread with Olives"
!!! Bread tastes better in a few hours, or in 6-8.

Why "fast" mode, and not "basic with raisins"? There is also no need to monitor the dispenser, it will open itself ... in the "fast" mode, it does not work ...

Actually, I have two significant problems.

First: I did not notice this in the first 5 breads (although there was a suspicion), but now (6th) I know for sure that the temperature in the room and air movement affect the baking. Today it got colder and the wind blew through the windows. The stove is located not far from the window, and as a result, the near part of the bread turned out to be lighter than the one at the back of the lid attachment.

Second: when the loaf comes out of the bucket, it hits lightly on the table surface and is slightly crushed. I think it's a matter of training.

Why "fast" mode, and not "basic with raisins"? There is also no need to monitor the dispenser, it will open itself ... in the "fast" mode, it does not work ...

Vooot! I still have a lot of gaps.
First, this disp-r does not close afterwards, right?
In this case, if the bread is tall, then what kind will it look like at the top if the display is down
Secondly, I haven't used it yet. I put all the additives in the dough.

We must start experimenting.

No, it doesn't close, but I close it myself so that the heat doesn't go away. but you can not do this ...
When it opens. it is hung out SHA border of the bucket. so it won't get into the bread ... the Japs are cunning, they thought of everything ...
Place boldly "basic with raisins" and you will be HAPPINESS

Hello everyone;) But yesterday I just bought a stove and did not understand a little what is written about yeast in the instructions: yeast-B and yeast-R. Tell me plizzzz ...: - [
P.S. thanks to the site, I found out what is the best bread maker .. Yesterday my parents brought Panasonic 244 and today I sent them to change to 255: flowers:

That's for an accelerated baking R!
And on page 17 there is a mistake in rye bread / in the old instructions-water 470/310 is needed!