Freesia
Quote: alexeyda

As I understand it, in these modes, the batch goes immediately

And the rest of the programs in Liberton did not immediately knead?
Freesia
Quote: alexeyda

Household appliances under the SATURN brand are manufactured in China.
If so, then my HP has made me happy for a long time, you can take China, as you are lucky you can see
alexeyda
Tell me, how old is your Saturn?
Are you satisfied with the stove?

And the rest of the programs in Liberton did not immediately knead?
usually on other programs 5 min kneading 5 min rest then the main batch 10-20 minutes
(information based on instructions)
Freesia
2.5 years. There are no problems. I would like to continue like this.

And also knead for 5 minutes and rest, then knead again. I don’t need a long alignment mode, it’s probably only in Panasonic
Aygul
A question for users of the Panasonic bread machine. If a knife with teeth is lost, is it possible to use a knife without teeth with good quality (for bread, dough)? Or what programs will be unavailable?

Oh, I wrote in the wrong place, but oh well, there are experienced forum users here
MariV
You can use a regular spatula for all programs.
alexeyda
Tell me, is the smell of oil in that under the bucket (at the attachment point) of the base with the bucket in all the stoves?
addresat
Quote: alexeyda

Tell me, is the smell of oil in that under the bucket (at the attachment point) of the base with the bucket in all the stoves?

I don't know why you, there is no smell of oil in Panasonic.
alexeyda
and at the first use, there is no smell?
addresat
Quote: alexeyda

and at the first use, there is no smell?

I will not say that the smell of oil, rather plastic. But these are only the first few baked goods. I have been using the stove for a year, it smells only of bread, even the stove itself has already smelled of this smell.
alexeyda
Maxima MBM-1901
How many programs do you manage?
Vanya28
Quote: MariV

Caraway and anise have only one family - Umbrella; the taste and type of seeds are different; cumin - biennial, anise - annual.
Porridge is most likely in a different head.
Which bread maker to buy? Anise Which bread maker to buy? Caraway

About the mess in my head, it's not bad to look in your own.
I will repeat the quote again for clarity.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3696.0
This:
- " ... For example, the quote about anise, cumin and dill is not at all clear.
Have you tried all these seeds for a "tooth"? One did not write exactly, meaning the same thing - caraway and a synonym for it - field anise, but this does not mean anise, this cumin - field anise - Carum carvi (Lat)... It looks like, but no more. And local experts in botany are very fond of developing this "smart" thought by tapping themselves on the chest. One wrote, and the rest like monkeys repeat quoting. This gaiety comes from here: "... BORODINSKY BREAD GOST 5309-50 Technical conditions.
Borodino bread made from a mixture of rye wallpaper flour in the amount of 80%, wheat grade II in the amount of 15%, red rye malt in the amount of 5% with the addition of salt, sugar, molasses and coriander, caraway seeds or anise leavened with or without yeast. "

Here Caraway and Dill, this is understandable - similar taste, and anise, the one that not anise field and especially in Borodino bread, it's just stupidity.


Gasha
Quote: Vanya28

Here Caraway and Dill, this is understandable - similar taste, and anise, the one that not anise field and especially in Borodino bread, it's just stupidity.


p.s.
About Cumin
Encyclopedia of Medicinal Plants.

Vanechka, you should read the theory ... Then there would be less nonsense ...

Vanya28
Quote: Gasha

Yeah ... bring ... So you consider GOST nonsense? And the people next to him are monkeys? Nicely...

Wan, but, besides you, no one else knocks on the chest on this forum ...

It is easy to bring a point into the dispute.
It will be clear who is smarter in this.
how Pro in rye bread, bake Borodinsky on Anis,
not on that Field anise - Carum carvi (Lat),
give everyone a try and if everyone says
that this is the taste of classic Borodinsky,
I'll be the first to apologize.
Enehi
Good evening everyone.
Tell me about the choice of hp.
I don't understand them at all - I read the forum, my head was swollen and I decided to just ask.
What I want from HP: well, delicious bread, unambiguously, reliability and ease of use, preferably rye, sweet pastries and so that the option is not too expensive. Thanks in advance for your help
Vanya28
Quote: Enehi

Good evening everyone.
Tell me about the choice of hp.
I don't understand them at all - I read the forum, my head was swollen and I decided to just ask.
What I want from HP: well, delicious bread, unambiguously, reliability and ease of use, preferably rye, sweet pastries and so that the option is not too expensive. Thanks in advance for your help

Where are you from? What's in your stores? If not from Moscow, will you take it by courier or not? Well, how much money is more accurate, at least write the accuracy up to 1000 rubles.
Enehi
Murmansk, but you can buy in the online store with shipment
Vanya28
Quote: Enehi

Murmansk, but you can buy in the online store with shipment

With rye and especially with sourdough, take Brand, a very decent stove - 4500 rubles without delivery. She also has weights.
Here
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=152895.0
and so
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=9345.0

We need more details, write.

Enehi
Thank you for the hint, read about it, read more later. And you can name several models of the most popular and which ones you definitely do not advise to take, if not difficult of course)))
Vanya28
Quote: Enehi

Thank you for the hint, read about it, read more later. And you can name several models of the most popular and which ones you definitely do not advise to take, if not difficult of course)))
Panasonic all models, Kenwood450 are very popular
You don't need to take Moulinex - the price and expectations will not coincide, although of course it bakes.
For the rest, write if you find anything, we will comment.

Which bread maker to buy?
Marina YR
Dear girls!
In the morning my AlJi, who was already seven years old, died of old age.
Now I feel like no hands, and my family is without dumplings, pizza and rolls.
I understand that the question in the topic is worn out, but still: which HB should I choose to replace?
Requirements: I want a baguette maker, a rye maker, a yoghurt maker, muffins and all this is not expensive.
Climbed in the internet, looked after Binatone BM 1168 but confuses durability, although the price pleases.
What do you advise?
sazalexter
Marina YR Binatone of course will not last 7 years according to your characteristics LG HB-2001BY but without "baguette-pies"
Marina YR
Yes, we want baguettes and that's it)))))

Well, I don’t hope for seven, but how long will it last? Maximum year?
sazalexter
Quote: Marina YR

Yes, we want baguettes and that's it)))))

Well, I don’t hope for seven, but how long will it last? Maximum year?
If there is a baguette, it will not be baguettes, but such overgrown pies, not baguettes and pies
And it will last how long no one will say there is no such statistics. A year is still a guarantee, but there ...
Marina YR
Mmmmmm ........... I thought that due to the constant uniform temperature there would be just such mini-baguettes.
That upset so upset. I would like to say something like ... crispy bars. Strongly crispy.
Is it a precise information?
Nyusya
Good day! We need 2 bread makers: 1 - as a gift to grandmother up to 4000r. Reliable and VERY easy to use, it is desirable that the rye bread bakes good. 2- your beloved! And here I don't even know what to want ... Probably the same as in the first one, but you can do it a little more. No baguettes needed. But kneading dough for dumplings, pizza and pies is welcome. Thank you.
Enehi
And I bought myself a bakery - Kenwood bm250. I am mastering it, thanks for the help in choosing.
mowgli
I also thought, thought ... in September and took Panasonic. I thought that the myth was "completely different bread in it according to the same recipes" but when I made bread according to the recipe of my old LV ... now I say that Panasonic is unambiguous, but I still love my old LV with trepidation. as they say, old love does not rust.
Olga40
Hello everybody! I want to buy LV 2001, tell me who uses it as a stove? I'm new to this business, and of course I want to be right ...
mowgli
Quote: Vanya28

Definitely better or not better? Unclear. Under specify for fidelity!
Of course, it’s better if I didn’t buy bread in the store before, but now I’m not drawn there at all ...I make homemade ... and then, the dumplings dough turns out to be just lovely, I completely forgot what it means to knead with my hands.
Vanya28
Quote: mowgli

Of course, it’s better if I didn’t buy bread in the store before, but now I’m not drawn there at all ... I make homemade ... and then, the dumplings dough turns out to be just lovely, I completely forgot what it means to knead with my hands.

And how much is the price difference between the cheapest Panasonic and the average LG?
There is a suspicion that it is very small.
sazalexter
Quote: Olga40

Hello everybody! I want to buy LV 2001, tell me who uses it as a stove? I'm new to this business, and of course I want to be right ...
Here we have LG HB-2001BY https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=67895.0
Vanya28
Looked at the prices for LG and Panasonic, the new choices have something to think about.
mowgli
Quote: Vanya28

Looked at the prices for LG and Panasonic, the new choices have something to think about.
Oh, I also chose for a long time after my oven welled up - it was the simplest LV, my dad also bought, but he never got used to it ... and I mastered it so quickly .. but then I also thought what to take, to I pestered everyone on the forum, then when I became completely unable to live without a stove, I went to the store .. We watched Kenwood, and Lzh, and then turned Panasonic .. I think, well, I'll take it .. and I took it and I don't regret it already with September month ..
addresat
We, too, at one time almost bought LV. I accidentally saw a video of HP on the Internet and I did not like the size of her bucket - square and high. Therefore, we took a Panasonic - it seems to me that the bucket is more straight-handed, not square.
Olga40
This stove suits me for the money, of course I looked at Panasonic, but for some reason we have a small choice, there is only model 2500 for 8200, there are no other models, apparently they took it apart before the new year ... And the shape of the bucket also confuses me a little in the LV, but I reassure myself that the main thing is that it was tasty. And so I wandered around the forum, caught fire even more, I can't wait to start baking bread! As soon as I have the first experience, I will share my successes and failures! Thank you all for the feedback and for the link to LV 2001.
Katerina I
Good afternoon, dear members of the forum! We would like to join the lucky ones who munch on fresh bread of their own preparation in the morning! Can you please tell me in which HP model you can bake 6 small "bricks"? I heard that there is such a model, but I just can't find (((
Rina
for six - there are no such in nature (at least, we have not heard of such), but for two small ones - there are several models.
Katerina I
Yes, I did - Moulinex has 4 (baguette)
sazalexter
Quote: Katerina

Yes, I did - Moulinex has 4 (baguette)
Aha "baguettes" loudly said rather pies
Rina
Quote: Katerina

Good afternoon, dear members of the forum! We would like to join the lucky ones who munch on fresh bread of their own making in the morning! Can you please tell me in which HP model you can bake 6 small "bricks"? I heard that there is such a model, but I just can't find (((
Katyusha, one thing - bricks. These are special shaped buckets with stirrers. There are several models, where either one large form, or a special double (two loaves are baked in one program). And "baguettes" - something like a stack is inserted inside the stove, on which you can put buns sculpted by your hands. That is, the dough is kneaded in the oven, then this dough is taken out, buns are molded by hand, laid out on these "shelves", the baguette case is inserted into the oven and the user starts the "baking" program. I have not seen a single review of people using these baguette forms except during the period of mastering the stove and "playing around" for a month or two. Then it turns out that these buns are too laborious, and the baguette holders safely end up on the far shelf in the closet.
JessyBri
Good day!
I was then puzzled by the impending need to replace my assistant. Now I want "cheap and cheerful" with maximum functionality and reliability. The function "jam" is irrelevant, dispenser, baguette holder - too.
The "dough" mode, the quick baking program and the ability to knead hard dough (for dumplings and dumplings. How many times I search in different online stores - I don't see anything like this. Help, please!)
masjavka
Rina, I bake them from time to time, I rarely bake them, since there is mainly wheat flour, and experimenting with rye is very problematic, and I really like them
JessyBri, choose a higher power, so that HP has enough strength to knead hard dough
JessyBri
masjavka, and how much power will be enough? 550 is enough?
In addition: I understand that for dumplings, for example, dough, in this mode the HP should knead it without heating. So?
In short, I got confused. And shop consultants know even less - they only unanimously advise to take which of the more expensive)
Vanya28
Quote: JessyBri

masjavka, and how much power will be enough? 550 is enough?
In addition: I understand that for dumplings, for example, dough, in this mode the HP should knead it without heating. So?
In short, I got confused. And shopping consultants know even less - they only unanimously advise to take which of the more expensive)
There are a lot of excellent and problem-free bread machines here.
Buy more valerian in advance and keep your eyes stronger,
as stopping and choosing will not be an easy task.

Katerina I
Rina, thank you very much for such a detailed answer! As the saying goes "... I was wrong, got excited, flared up ..."
Yesterday I once again looked through the information on HP and analyzed my "hochuhi" I stopped at the fact that I needed HP with the ability to bake bread without yeast, rye and wholemeal flour. While the gaze fell on Panasonic, where there are these programs. I also want to read and understand Temki about baking rye bread in KhP, where there is no such program.
Thanks again!
Balamutka
Girls, I have a question: I want to buy a bread maker, but I don't know what to choose - simpler and cheaper to try and understand whether I need it or not, or just take the most sophisticated model? What do you think?
Rina
Take a serious stove right away. If suddenly (although I doubt) it turns out that you do not need baking, sell it as a second-hand for a short time with a slight decrease in price. As a result, it will still turn out as if you bought a cheap one and pushed it onto the mezzanine.
Vanya28
Quote: Rina

Take immediately serious stove... If suddenly (although I doubt) it turns out that you do not need baking, sell it as a second-hand for a short time with a slight decrease in price. As a result, it will still turn out as if you bought a cheap one and pushed it onto the mezzanine.
Which one will we recommend?
I have three brands for advice or 5 models.
Only Mr. Nikolaev will take from the local assortment or is it not fundamentally where?

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