Julia V
We also have gas, but I still like to use the electric kettle. Thermopot, although it is turned on for heating all day long, is still more profitable by kilowatts than e-mail. kettle, well it seems to me. There is a thermopot at 98 degrees. 1-2 times a day I pour water, we have a lot of people, they drink quickly.
magenta
Thanks for answers!
Quote: Julia V

I don't turn it off at all, why.
Isn't it harmful for the device to work without interruption around the clock? Maybe he needs to "rest", cool down?
How often do you turn it off altogether?
Julia V
It seems to me that he was invented for this so that he constantly kept hot water in large quantities, maybe everything is thought out there. Moreover, it is not very powerful. Moreover, you somehow trust Panasonic more. Disconnect only to pour water or mine when. Recently, I have been pouring water into the included thermopot, I think this is harmful. Perhaps I would put it on the timer, but my husband can drink tea at 12 at night: mad: but he won't bother turning on the timer. Of course I wanted to listen to the opinion of people who have had a thermopot for a long time, I have it only 3-4 months.
Catwoman
Quote: Julia V

It seems to me that he was invented for this so that he constantly kept hot water in large quantities, maybe everything is thought out there. Moreover, it is not very powerful. Moreover, you somehow trust Panasonic more. Disconnect only to pour water or mine when. Recently, I have been pouring water into the included thermopot, I think this is harmful. Perhaps I would put it on the timer, but my husband can drink tea at 12 at night: mad: but he won't bother turning on the timer. Of course I wanted to listen to the opinion of people who have had a thermopot for a long time, I have it only 3-4 months.

I have a thermopot for about 2 years, it is constantly on, we turn it off only if we leave somewhere, and it works around the clock.
Catwoman
Quote: Julia V

Catwoman, and when you fill in water, then turn it off from the network?

No, I open the lid and pour into the included one.
Julia V
: bye: from and I like this, and every time I say that the last time is like this
Elena Bo
I use the second thermopot. The first was Vitek and broke down immediately after the end of the warranty. We bought Panasonic. It has been working for 4 years already. I turn it off only after treatment with antiscale, to wash it properly (1-2 times a year). I always pour water into the on.
Catwoman
Quote: Elena Bo

I use the second thermopot. The first was Vitek and broke down immediately after the end of the warranty. We bought Panasonic. It has been working for 4 years already. I turn it off only after treatment with antiscale, to wash it properly (1-2 times a year). I always pour water into the on.

Wow! Thanks for reminding me, I'm going to clean it for a week!
mowgli
Today I saw a 4-liter Panasonic, where both the timer and the water are held in 3 positions: 90.60 and some more degrees. I will definitely buy it!
julifera
And I pour into the included

I read the Temka above and saw that LTBW decided to make fun of me that I turn it off, well, let yourself be taken care of

Of course, if someone was at home all day, then I would not turn it off, but if everyone is at work / school for half a day, then I see no reason to soar the water there for so long without need.
Julia V
Mowgli, you know, I chose the identity for a long time. I opted for a Panasonic model with a capacity of 3 liters, 2 water supply pumps, temperatures 60, 80.90 and 98. So 98 is more acceptable for me, I pour brewed coffee and brew tea.
mowgli
Quote: julifera

And I pour into the included

I read the Temka above and saw that LTBW decided to make fun of me that I turn it off, well, let yourself be taken care of

Of course, if someone was at home all day, then I would not turn it off, but if everyone is at work / school for half a day, then I see no reason to soar the water there for so long unnecessarily.
I also think that you can turn it off.But at home all the time I have someone's son on the second shift, a daughter on the first. And on the contrary, I don't really need boiling water - we drink everything warm, but for a coffee machine.
Leska
I have a Panasonic. I turn it off if I only leave home for more than 4 hours. It is very convenient that I have it included in an extension cord with an off button. I pour water almost always into the switched on. In the evening I put it on 80 grams, because at night sometimes there is a need to drink a hot drink, or 90 - especially when you are sick - I came up and poured it. I have a set of cubes from different frozen juices in my freezer - for example, I threw cranberry into a cup and poured hot water. Fruit drink is ready quickly, and, most importantly, quietly. If I don’t make green tea in the morning, I press the boil button, while I wash my face, the boiling water is ready.
Lisss's
girls, do we have such a kettle? it seems that only one glass heats up, and not all the water, like a thermopot .. it would be interesting to hear reviews ..

Kettle BOSCH THD 2023

Thermopot

Filtrino FastCup hot water dispenser
5 different temperatures at the touch of a button: "room", 70 °, 80 °, 90 ° C, boiling
Saves time and energy because heats only the amount of water needed to prepare the drink

my here all got sick, the question arose squarely about the thermo-pot, came across such a miracle .. what kind of animal is this?
julifera
Quote: Lisss's

Kettle BOSCH THD 2023

This is cool !!!
You can't tell from the outside that this is a kettle
julifera
I found a three-dimensional photo - it looks like a coffee machine

Thermopot
Kapet
Quote: julifera

I found a three-dimensional photo - it looks like a coffee machine

Thermopot
And I do not want this, for several reasons:

1. We often need a lot of hot water at once, 2-3 liters. This device, as I understand it, will not give out so much at once.
2. It will heat up like a kettle, that is, it will consume about 2000 watts. I don't like it, and neither do my wiring ...
3. Black is very cool. Just what will happen to him when scale and salt deposits are trampled from all the cracks, and water stains on black. Swing to direct shine in all its bends and grooves. Here white plastic will be more practical, IMHO. However, if you have a maid, this is not a problem ...
4. You probably won't take it outdoors like a thermos, unlike my Panasonic with a pump.
5. I do not like angular postmodern technical design, I prefer elegant classical forms ...

Of course, this is all just my personal opinion, which may well differ from yours.
julifera
Quote: Kapet

And I do not want this, for several reasons:

1. We often need a lot of hot water at once, 2-3 liters. This device, as I understand it, will not give out so much at once.
2. It will heat up like a kettle, that is, it will consume about 2000 watts. I don't like it, and neither do my wiring ...
3. Black is very cool. Just what will happen to him when scale and salt deposits are trampled from all the cracks, and water stains on black. Swing to direct shine in all its bends and grooves. Here white plastic will be more practical, IMHO. However, if you have a maid, this is not a problem ...
4. You probably won't take it outdoors like a thermos, unlike my Panasonic with a pump.
5. I do not like angular postmodern technical design, I prefer elegant classical forms ...

Of course, this is all just my personal opinion, which may well differ from yours.

1. Strange, but the color of this device for me is not at all in the line of coolness parameters
2. He eats 1,600 Watt - twice as much of a thermopot, but it will also spend 2 times less time on heating, so one cannot say that it is more voracious than a thermopot.
3. It does not need to be forcibly stopped like a thermal pot for 80 C (or boil over water and wait for cooling).
4. If the thing is very necessary and unique and there are no analogues, then the design can be pushed aside - this is not a minus.
5. Whoever has normal filters at home - in principle, there are no problems with salts and stains!
My thermal sweat is in perfect condition - not a single scale has formed inside in 2 years.
6. The needs of people are different, who needs 3 liters at a time, and who needs a mug.
But if the size of the mug is not regulated there, then this is perhaps the only real minus.
Lisss's
julifera, the size of the mug is adjustable! from description - Individual sizes of beverages can be adjusted using a separate "stop" button (200 μl, 250 μl, 120 μl, 150 μl, 300 μl)

yes, the thermopot stops me precisely by the fact that I almost never need a lot of hot water .. I can’t even remember the last time I needed it and I don’t care about the wiring - I changed it all, and it pulls the Boshevsky kettle for 2400 perfectly.

and the design is even nothing, modern (which, incidentally, is not typical for Bosch - usually everything is wooden with them, of the last century ..) Kapet right - maybe not very practical .. but Bosch is not the first day on the market, I don’t think they don’t think about it .. maybe it’s some kind of super-nano coating that wipes stains off itself at night

in a word, I really like this unit, but I don’t like to be a pioneer, at least from someone I would like to hear feedback ..
Lisss's
Kapet, found about limescale - Integrated BW MAXTRA water filter for optimal taste and protection of the appliance - Electronic filter change indicator - Simple filter change procedure; Thanks to BRITA MAXTRA water filtration technology, the user will drink a richer drink and protect the device from limescale -
oh, here's another in white

Thermopot

here is another question - if, in principle, you do not need it in terms of its functionality, then you scold him
Kapet
Quote: Lisss's

Kapet
here is another question - if, in principle, you do not need it in terms of its functionality, then you scold him
God forbid! He only poured out his thoughts on the first impression of this Bosch.

It's just that it's good to scrub and peel off your Panasonic of streamlined shapes - sometimes it's not an easy task. And here there are so many angles, bends and surfaces ... It's better to take the same Tefal - not so angular, and not so gloomy ...

Thermopot
Specialist
Does anyone have a thermopot Fairy? I want to buy it, it seems to me simple and convenient, even the only model has a shutdown button on the case.
lunova-moskalenko
Well, here I became the owner of the PANASONIC NC-PF 30 PVWTW thermal pot. And the question is, how did I live without him?
Leska
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Well, here I became the owner of the PANASONIC NC-PF 30 PVWTW thermal pot. And the question is, how did I live without him?

nvk, congratulations, I have a Panasonic NC-PF30PW ... the letters are only smaller than yours, but. For them, the best descaling agent, tested for Nn-th number of years - Sprite or Coca-Cola, on the advice of the master from the guarantee.
Julia V
On search it gives out that this is one model
I used to boil with a lemon for scale, but now we have Osmosis, and there is no scale.
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: Julia V

On search it gives out that this is one model
I used to boil with a lemon for scale, but now we have Osmosis, and there is no scale.
Yes, this is one model. I, too, are always everywhere from the current scale with a lemon, even in a washing machine with a lemon.
simfira
Girls, does anyone use a thermopot cooler and cold water from the second tap, filtered? type 2 in 1
francevna
So I have been using a Panasonic thermopot for a week already: 3L, 4 temp. mode, however, I use only 98 degrees. It takes 3 liters per day, it happens that you have to top up. I really like why didn't I buy it earlier?
Andrzej nov
Panasonic NC-PF30PV. Collected in Thailand.
Second week ...
The water smells like plastic !!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll probably throw it out.
Nat_ka
Quote: Andrzej nov

Panasonic NC-PF30PV. Collected in Thailand.
Second week ...
The water smells like plastic !!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll probably throw it out.

Can I boil a lemon peel in water?
francevna
Quote: Andrzej nov

Panasonic NC-PF30PV. Collected in Thailand.
Second week ...
The water smells like plastic !!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll probably throw it out.
I have model NC-EH30PWTW, there was no smell of plastic even during the first boiling. I was very worried, because I am allergic to smells, so I threw out the electr. a double boiler (made in Germany), there is a body made of black plastic.
Julia V
I had no smell either. Very cute thermopot
Kapet
Quote: Andrzej nov

Panasonic NC-PF30PV. Collected in Thailand.
Second week ...
The water smells like plastic !!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll probably throw it out.
It's strange ... It seems that Panas did not have any claims to smells here yet ... Take him to an authorized service center, with a claim ... There should not be such a thing, at least the Panas ...
simfira
And how much boiling water actually holds in the thermal pot? Take it to nature, for example.
Julia V
Not enough, because after all it is not a thermos. You shouldn't take it outdoors at all, the water will be just warm, but not boiling water.
Olga y
And then I wanted to buy a new kettle, and how I got here I myself do not understand. I read the whole topic twice and decided that this thing would be better and bought a Panasonic NC-EH30. There was no smell of plastic, and at the first boil, it was assembled soundly, compact, a little larger than an ordinary kettle. We boiled water and the kettle many times a day, and the heat pot was enough from lunch until the next morning. At night I put on a timer, as it heated the water at 6 in the morning, I can not hear, although the kitchen is nearby. We are satisfied, but while we get used to it, all the same we have been running around with a kettle all our lives, and now it seems like you sit by itself, everything heats up. Thanks to everyone for reviewing the flights, which prompted the purchase.
francevna
Quote: Olga y

And then I wanted to buy a new kettle, and how I got here I myself do not understand. I read the whole topic twice and decided that this thing would be better and bought a Panasonic NC-EH30. There was no smell of plastic, and at the first boil, it was assembled soundly, compact, a little larger than an ordinary kettle. We boiled water and the kettle many times a day, and the heat pot was enough from lunch until the next morning. At night I put on a timer, as it heated the water at 6 in the morning, I can not hear, although the kitchen is nearby. We are satisfied, but while we get used to it, we have been running around with a kettle all our lives, and now it seems like you sit by itself, everything heats up. Thanks to everyone for reviewing the flights, which prompted the purchase.
Olya, congratulations on your wonderful purchase. : rose: Let her work properly and make her family happy.
It has become quieter in the house and electricity is being saved, I checked this on my own experience.
Olga y
Quote: francevna

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The house has become quieter and electricity is being saved, I checked this on my own experience.
Here! keywords silence and electricity. It's a pity for the counter, shakes and shakes, you need to feel sorry for it. Thank you!
Olya_
I have been using Panasonic NC-HU301P thermopot for more than 2 years. I am very satisfied. It has a timer, you can turn it off (for example, at night, or when you leave home), and at the right time it will turn on itself. It also has a self-cleaning function. Mine with a lemon every few months, and this with our nasty water. But all the same, next time I will buy another thermopot Stadler Form SFQ.010 Quick Up One, my children bought it for themselves. At the right time, you can press the button and the water mug heats up instantly, in less than a minute. It turns out that the water is not boiled constantly, but onceThermopot
francevna
How convenient it is with a thermopot when it was cool. Now the weather is very hot, and you can feel the warmth from the thermal sweat. Forum member, how to get out of this situation?
Share your experience.
Julia V
Yes, somehow I do not feel the strong heat from the thermal sweat from the gas stove, yes, from the PMM too.
Oca
Attempt to heat up # 2, ordered a used Maxima MTP-M804 (less than 550r) I'm waiting ...
YanOchka-
Quote: Julia V

Not enough, because after all it is not a thermos. You shouldn't take it outdoors at all, the water will be just warm, but not boiling water.
I will add a little number, I have Brand 4504 for 5 liters. with temperature setting up to 45 degrees. In the afternoon they turned off the lights until evening. Water is exposed to 85 degrees. heated. Has cooled to 65 in 6-7 hours. This is a pleasantly hot tea, if you have a ready-made brew. The bags were also brewed, but I think more because of the dyes, because the tea leaf has a temperature of release of all things, 90 degrees for brewing. I think if set to boil it would be even hotter. But this is at home, and in nature it can be cooler, it will cool down faster and depending on how long it is in nature, half a day, or until evening, in summer or winter. A full (thermos, thermopot) keeps warm longer, start emptying and the thermos (I have 3 liters with a pump, took it on the road to the car for the baby) cools down in the evening. Although you can experiment, set only the parameters.
YanOchka-
Quote: Oca

Attempt to heat up # 2, ordered a used Maxima MTP-M804 (less than 550r) I'm waiting ...
Great! Ozone recently had a new Brand Lazur 425 with a discount up to 720r, and so 990. But it is 2.5 liters.
Oca
Quote: YanOchka-

Great! Ozone recently had a new Brand Lazur 425
I saw it, but I liked the cherry Brand for 5L, now they are not there, so I decided this way: I will buy something cheaper (but not Scarlett and not Martha!), I will use it.If you like it, I will look after a more advanced model, and put the old one on the flea market. If there are no jambs, I will receive an order on the 1st (although it is not known in what form).
Oca
I bought a thermopot, secured it home, and wash the dirty -893305575.html]Thermopot
Ask: where are the photos? They will appear now!

Inside view: before and after (literally a teaspoon of LOK for bathrooms)
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In the last photo in (a tube on the side of the tank, under a piece of iron) there is another thermal sensor, apparently from overheating ...

See how well the seams on the bottom and side are welded. The thermo-sweat inside turned out to be empty, the heating element seemed to be squeezed in a circle with a piece of galvanized bucket, there is still some garbage burnt on its side:
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Thermopot

We disassemble further, pay attention to the red gasket under the screw (here are the Chinese! Without it, the screw closes the button contacts!) And for the red and green bulbs we made colored windows.
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There are two thermal sensors (or something else), they are well smeared with thermal paste:
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Thermopot dismantled the thermopot ...

Mechanical accordion pump: sucks in from the top, blows out from the bottom when squeezed
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Now this is on the table:
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Olya_
Something for a long time there are no pictures. Probably everyone bathes under the shower? Or did you take it all apart again?
Oca
No, these are friends on Skype with a video call, and I have one monitor (for now). Foty laid out the rest dries. Damn, the accordion has collected water, you need to dry it ...

PySy as it dries, so I will show you assembled, already washed and polished
Olya_
Mash, I was joking, but you took it all apart again. The clever girl is now waiting for the beauty.
Oca
It was, firstly, noticeably second-hand (mine, my chimney sweep ... (c) Korney Chukovsky), and secondly, after repair. It was necessary to check that everything was in his place. I found a lot of dust inside, toasted pieces of glue / sealant, and the most important thing is the screws! They were simply unscrewed with your fingers! Do you think the temperature sensor will work if it is loosely screwed to the case? I had a similar experience with a kettle, I don't want to repeat it. I smeared fresh thermal paste, twisted it properly. Now I am thinking, but not if I should write additional insulation in it?

Dimensions: diameter approx. 18 cm, height 36-37 cm (37 due to the switch pin for the hand pump).
More photos:


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In the room + 21 ° C, the water in the thermo-pot is + 25 ° C, it boiled in 23 minutes (the boiling lamp was on), and switched to maintaining the temperature.
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Two liters of water boils for 3 minutes every hour, total energy consumption is exactly 40 watts. But ... I'll tell you about this "but" below.

Moving on to the sadder news. Today they returned the money to me for it ... I shouldn't have scrubbed it and washed it to a mirror shine. There were two reasons to part with it: the electric pump did not work and the heating coil burned out (interconnected breakdowns). That's why he switched to boiling. After a little googling, I found the following: "the second heating (not boiling) coil is connected to the electric pump motor and supplies it with a supply voltage of 12 (less often 24) volts." The motor seemed to be showing signs of life, and the spiral died "on a cliff". They write that this is a very common breakdown. On the one hand, it would have been possible to leave everything as it is, manual feed completely tripled, but the fact that the water will be boiled 24 times a day somehow bothered me. And powering the motor is not such a big problem, but since there are two spirals together, I was scared that the second one could also be covered with a copper basin after the warranty expired. Here's the news ... should I buy a new one?

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