Andreevna
Yes, not at all. Take Panasonic, at least 100% reliability (mine is already 4 years old). Well, somehow adapt to the temperature
julifera
Found aaaaaa !!!!

From this I want - aquagrad M 9000 - thermopot kettle:

Thermopot

It remains to find where to buy ...

The temperature is set in steps of 5 gadus
LTBW
Quote: julifera

From this I want - aquagrad M 9000
Hmm ... Aren't you afraid to go broke? A normal thermopot spends very little energy to maintain the temperature due to its internal device such as a thermos. And here there is translucent plastic, which means the heat loss is huge, which means that the energy costs for maintaining the temperature are large. Is it that in winter, instead of a bundle of kettle + heater + humidifier, use
julifera
Quote: LTBW

Hmm ... Aren't you afraid to go broke? A normal thermopot spends very little energy to maintain the temperature due to its internal device, such as a thermos.

No, I'm not afraid, I do not need to keep the water hot for days, if I can instantly figure out in this aqua city.

And for the role of a thermos, of course, I agree - it is ruinous, although some do not pay attention to it, thermopotite is good

But I'm still in the process of thinking ... Panas wins in terms of reliability and economical functionality, there is no need to run to fill up after every liter you drink.
But I don’t need to heat the water for a long time, if I can heat it up in half a minute, and I don’t need to monitor it so that it doesn’t boil too much, and the temperatures are smoother.
The truth is where to buy it has not yet found.

And I really like Panasonic simply because it is Panasonic, if someone gave it, I would definitely be in use
sweetka
absolutely agree with the previous speaker!
it is cheaper to buy a thermometer for 100 * C, measure it to the desired temperature and reset it. and then keep 80 * C.
but in general, I read that you warmed up in the micro ... how do receptors react to such water?
julifera
Quote: sweetka

absolutely agree with the previous speaker!
it is cheaper to buy a thermometer for 100 * C, measure it to the desired temperature and reset it. and then keep 80 * C.
but in general, I read that you warmed up in the micro ... how do receptors react to such water?

So I used a temometer and got used to the microwave
For each of my teapots, I remembered how many seconds to set to get the right temperature. I have them specially all thick-walled and without gold borders.

Microwave tea turns out intoxicating
Black comes out especially fragrant, brewed with water from 90 to 95C and not strangled in the teapot (you need either a hole in the lid or open it if not)

Now teas from the series "tea leaves just in a mug" are not pinned at all.

It's just a little embarrassing that they say that the micra spoils the structure of the water, well, I'm tired of running around with hot teapots, especially at work, where the microwave is in the next room, and you need to go into it on the roof in the open weather, I especially like it on ice, rain and it's cool in a blizzard and when the door also does not open well, and you are with boiling water (we just have a refined roof with normal Euro rooms)

So Panasonic would definitely take a job, but for now I feel sorry for the money for work, no one will throw off, there are no tea-lovers ...

sweetka
do not worry about the micros. Firstly, you don't bring water to a boil in it, right? and secondly, I can tell you now from three boxes ... to tell you, to put it mildly, what harmful water from a gas stove here on the forum someone said that coffee in a micron is brewed tastier. checked - 100% tastier. so I believe about tea! at home brew in a micron. and buy yourself a regular thermos for work. Panas for a couple of cups of tea is not at all logical to buy.and you can buy a good thermos - it keeps hot water for a day.
julifera
Quote: sweetka

Panas for a couple of cups of tea is not at all logical to buy. and you can buy a good thermos - it keeps hot water for a day.

I agree that it is illogical, except that there would be nowhere to put money with fat - I would buy it for work.

And apparently my soul does not lie with thermoses, as they say, they are not in my hand, I don’t like to twist them, pour back and forth, houses 3 are not in use.
And with a metal flask - you don't like the taste of water, but with a glass flask - always worry so as not to burst.
But these are already my jumps, for example, fiddling with a teapot will seem delirium to someone, but it's very convenient for me with a little one.

Eh, I have lived without this thermopot for a hundred years and will still live ...
Nastasya
Quote: julifera


As far as I understood, the Panasonic thermopot first boils water and only then lowers and maintains the selected lower one.
That is, it is impossible to automatically heat the purified living water without boiling, for example, to 70 for white tea, you need to somehow monitor it in order to throw it off in time and prevent unnecessary boiling.
Here, on the forum, I read that when you pour water into Panasonic, you set the desired temperature, and then use the "Timer" button to drive all values ​​to zero. Then there will be NO boiling, and the water will be brought exactly to the required temperature. I haven't tried it myself, I don't know. But, at least, Panasonic d. B. timer.
Nastasya
Quote: julifera

Owners of Panasonic, please respond:

when the thermo-sweat heats the water for the first time - does it somehow show the dynamics of temperature change?

Can you find out, for example, when the water is 40 degrees?
Or when it cools from 98 to 60 - somehow you can see that the water, for example, is at 70 C?

I have a Panasonic with a display. And the temperature dynamics shows of course.
Nastasya
Quote: julifera

Nastasya, yes, I read this too - I described it on page 5 NiLarna

There remains only a trifle - to be near the kettle at the right time
Why be at the thermopot at the right time? I understand that this procedure should be done immediately when turned on.
julifera
Quote: Nastasya

Why be at the thermopot at the right time?

Oh, Nastasya, here I am quoting from page 5 of this thread - everything seems to be clear - you need to watch !:

Quote: NiLarna

We turn on the thermopot, select the desired temperature (for example, 80 degrees). We wait and look at the temperature sensor - how much is there now. As soon as the temperature reached 80 degrees (if you missed it and already 85 - it's not scary, quickly move on) - press the timer button.
Moreover, not once, but as many times as necessary to go through all its parameters and reset it to 0. The heating of the water stops and the thermopot continues to work in the mode of maintaining the set temperature. And if you missed and at the moment the temperature is higher than the selected one - as expected, the thermo-pot will gradually cool the contents to the selected one and will maintain it.
And it doesn't come to boiling!
That is, I translate - in order for the water not to boil, the timer should be started at "0" only when the water temperature is equal or slightly higher than the one we selected on the thermo-pot control panel.
Quote: Nastasya

I understand that this procedure should be done immediately upon switching on.

If you do this, the kettle will still boil the water.


Nastasya
Exactly. Thank you. I did not remember the text accurately. And I think that I couldn't do it that way. Now it is clear.
Nat_ka
We bought a thermos kettle "ves 2008" (although persistently persuaded myself to use panasonic) Five temperature regimes won, as did 4 liters. This volume is enough for a day, if there is a day off and everyone is at home (there are four of us). On weekdays - for a couple of days. This is how it looks:

Thermopot

Thermopot


sweetka
and how much in national currency this miracle lasted?
julifera
I join the question!

And with displays that show the temperature, during the day with fire, you can not see such thermo pots, neither VES, nor Panasik
sweetka
I took my Panas in Mega-Max. so you need to call there - to clarify. but it is for 2 liters, and I want to look after 4 liters as a gift to the godfathers, more 2 for them - just have breakfast. waterbirds are still the same :)
julifera
sweetka

And yours with a display or without?

Our megamax with displays has long been gone, and Comfy also has displayless ones ...
sweetka
what should be on the display? I have 4 buttons with different temperature regimes there - you choose which one you need by a blinking light. and it also doesn't work when there is no electricity. were the same, but pouring water and without electricity, but cost hryvnia 100-200 more expensive. I thought that the crown would not fall if, in the absence of light, I open the lid in rows and pour the water myself :)
julifera
Quote: sweetka

what should be on the display?

And look at the enlargement of the photo that Nat_ka laid out - the water temperature shows
sweetka
Yeah, the temperature shows - 40, 60, 90 and 100 degrees. I usually keep it at 90 - the teas are perfectly brewed and the water does not boil over again. When I was looking for a cartoon in due time, mega-max with calls got bored :))) so you can safely call there - they have strong nerves and proven :)))
Rimma71
About 3 weeks ago, I also bought a 3-liter Panasonic in MegaMax, with a display, for 4 temperature modes. Really like!

Thermopot

Thermopot
sweetka
oh, I have the same, current for 2 liters and without a blue pipka :)
julifera
Well, you gave me hope, so I will tarzan megamax
Nat_ka
Quote: sweetka

and how much in national currency this miracle lasted?
Price - 711 UAH. There is this miracle in the only (found by me) internet store (Donetsk)
I somehow came across such a model, but there was only a model without a display "ves 2007"

It heats the water up to 100 degrees, gives a sound signal and keeps the temperature you have chosen. And, essno, showing the current temperature.
Rimma71
Quote: sweetka

oh, I have the same, current for 2 liters and without a blue pipka :)

This is a switch for a manual pump, if suddenly there are guests, we put the thermopot on the table, pour it by hand so as not to look for an outlet. Or if, suddenly, there is no electricity (unexpectedly) I bought it for 800 UAH, taking into account 10 percent. discounts. But, to be honest, I was looking for just such a model for several months, it was nowhere, everyone promised, and in Megamax one somehow "was lying around". Call there, be sure to get lucky !!!
Kapet
Quote: Rimma71

About 3 weeks ago I also bought a 3-liter Panasonic in MegaMax, with a display, for 4 temperature modes. Really like!
I would not recommend you to put the thermo pot like this: the microwave will be a tryndet. When boiling, a lot of hot steam comes out of the sweat, and something in the microwave will fail. Yes, and the top bedside table that is on the microwave will eventually suffer too ...
Rimma71
Quote: Kapet

I would not recommend that you put the thermopot like this: the microwave will be a tryndet. When boiling, a lot of hot steam comes out of the sweat, and something in the microwave will fail. Yes, and the top bedside table that is on the microwave will eventually suffer too ...

Thank you very much! When boiling, slide out and turn to direct steam away from furniture and microwave. The kitchen is very small, you have to dodge.
dopleta
I bought such a toy in the company for my thermopot and kettle

Thermopot

I liked the possibility of heating the liquid to the desired temperature from 40 * C to 100 * C with a step of 10 *. The heated product is in contact only with glass, there is no contact with the heating element, so you can prepare an infusion of herbs, heat milk.
Tanyulya
Larisochka, where did you get such a "snatch"? What kind of firm?
dopleta
Quote: Tanyulya

Larisochka, where did you get such a "snatch"? What kind of firm?

Tanyulya, the fact of the matter is that it is ours, but the company "Ladomir", and, as it is written (I quote): "... made according to declassified technologies of the Military-Industrial Complex from materials, the unique properties of which make it possible to give household appliances such reliability and efficiency, which previously differed only in missile systems and artificial satellites.
LADOMIR equipment is assembled on the same production lines and using the same advanced technologies as the main products - the glory and pride of the Russian military-industrial complex.
During the development and production of LADOMIR equipment, all Russian features were taken into account. She works tirelessly for you in all climatic zones and in any - even the most severe - conditions. Delicate Western technique doesn't stand up to our life.It is not designed for power surges, dirty water, bad air, or repair difficulties. Our equipment will withstand everything! We even provided protection from domestic insects. "End of quote. Well, I don't know ... So we'll check it out.
ELECTRIC KETTLE WITH ELECTRONIC CONTROLLER

* Volume 1.7 liters
* Non-contact thin film heating element
* Microprocessor Control
* Chemically inert tempered glass container
* Environmental friendliness
* Precise maintenance of the set temperature - 40, 50, 60, 80, 90 * С with max. with an error of 0.8 * C.
* Mode indicator
* Stand with electric cord with the ability to rotate the kettle 360
* Triple Protection
electronic temperature controller
boil-over protection
fuse
* Economy - power 650 W

The glass container and the absence of contact between the liquid and the heating element allows:
* heat milk
* to make tea
* prepare herbal infusions
Microprocessor control provides:
* precise maintenance of temperature for a long time
* inclusion of boiling mode "one touch"
* light indication of the selected mode
* sound signal about protection activation and activation
* guarantees water boiling regardless of its hardness and external conditions
Tanyulya, but bought quite by accident. I looked for it on sale, but did not find it, and then I turned up a new one on avito /

Buka
Quote: Rimma71

About 3 weeks ago I also bought a 3-liter Panasonic in MegaMax, with a display, for 4 temperature modes. Really like!

Thermopot

And instead of the old one I bought the same one, only for 4 liters. True, I had to choose what is more important for me, the volume or the presence of a pump (well, why couldn't it be done with a pump?). In general, I persuaded myself that the pump might not be needed, but 3 liters was clearly not enough.
But I wanted the boil delay timer for more than 6 hours ... But alas. But 4 liters. (I console myself).
Rina
Returning to my "automotive" question.
1. How long does a thermopot keep the water really hot after being disconnected from the mains?
2. Have you come across a model that would at least maintain the temperature using a car cigarette lighter?
Naxa
Hello. I'm a new person in this place, but I'm interested in the topic of thermopots. I have a question for the owners of Panasonik nc-pf 30. Does it have a function to turn off the heating, or, so that it does not heat up, you only need to turn it off from the outlet?
julifera
Quote: Naxa

I have a question for the owners of Panasonik nc-pf 30. Does it have a function to turn off the heating, or, so that it does not heat up, you only need to turn it off from the outlet?

Naxa
Turning off the heating just won't work - you either have to unplug it from the socket, or you can simplify your life and plug it into an extension cord, which is quickly turned off with a button
Naxa
1a his pump works well, if you spend money, how long will it last? and 2 where you can find its technical characteristics
3 how much does it consume when heated 4 can it be left plugged in when leaving the house? 5 how long does it take to heat cold water to a boil?
Rimma71
Quote: Naxa

1a his pump works well, if you spend money, how long will it last? and 2 where you can find its technical characteristics
3 how much does it consume when heating 4 can it be left plugged in when leaving the house? 5 how long does it take to heat cold water to a boil?

I have had this thermopot for more than six months, the pump is working fine. Consumption: power in hot water maintenance mode 20-46 W. Boils cold water for 30 minutes (three liters). I'm always connected to the network, I leave - I don't turn it off. One important point: if a power outage occurs, it boils water again when it resumes and goes into heating and maintaining 90 degrees. You need to select the desired pace again. manually. Our lights are often turned off, so when I leave, I try not to leave it with a small amount of water.
julifera
Naxa

And we are already accustomed to autopilot - we turn off everything from home, why waste energy on heating if no one will be at home from 8 to 20
In addition, one does not always have the strength to keep track of how much is left there, and if 1 cup remains, yes, it is heated, then he will actively warm it up the whole day.
julifera
In general, before buying a Cuckoo, this particular thermopot Panasonic PF 30 was recognized in our family
- THE MOST USEFUL purchased device in the last 2 years !!!

Although believe me, in addition to it, a lot of things were bought that seemed to be useful, but we came to the conclusion that without this thermopot, we would be like no hands
Naxa
I am in great thought. since I didn’t use such a unit before, now of course I don’t even know right to buy one that is not quite cheap. One thought says that a miser pays twice, another - you have to try on a cheap one. looking through different reviews. I want to order via the Internet, from the Panasonic website, a three-year warranty, but when I think about it, if something breaks, how will they repair it for me. Large stores give 1 year warranty, not enough, but under the nose. I don't even know, I wanted to make a purchase for the new year. For a long time I also wanted a thermos, it is safer for children to pour. I read the reviews, and I am inclined towards Panasik, but ...... And what good can you say about Panasonik nc-en40. He has more displacement. But on the site of Panasonic it costs more than ns-pf 30, but in our store, on the contrary, it is 1000 rubles cheaper. What is he?
LTBW
Quote: julifera

And we are already used to autopilot - we turn off everything from home, why waste energy on heating if no one will be at home from 8 to 20
Hmm, and from 23 to 7 everyone is asleep and you turn it off again?
In my opinion, in this situation, a thermopot is not needed, once in the morning and a couple of times in the evening it is easier and much cheaper to boil the kettle.
Oksyusha
The EN40 has a volume of 4 liters, a delay timer for only 6 hours and an electric pump (that is, you won't pour water nicely without electricity - no manual one); PF30 - has two pumps: manual and electric and timer 4/6/8/10-hour, but volume 3 liters. Decide for yourself what is more important: a 4/6/8/10-hour timer seems to be a good option, since 6 hours can be used. a little (if at night), like a hand pump, is also nice: you can put the kettle on the table when you are sitting with guests and add it without running to the power source; but .. for someone the volume of 4l is very important, then, in principle, you can do without the "bells and whistles" of the PF30 model
In general, I have a model ЕН30 (for 3 liters, without a manual pump, with a 6 hour timer) - they were bought in the fall in Kazakhstan (they were visiting there) for 2.8 tons. (in our stores in the region of 4 tons), there was no other model available, for a family of 4 people quite .. the absence of bells and whistles does not bother, we are happy with the purchase.
Kapet
Quote: Naxa

... One thought says, a miser pays twice, another - you have to try on a cheap one. looking through different reviews. I want to order via the Internet, from the Panasonic website, a three-year warranty, but when I think about it, if something breaks, how will they repair it for me ...

Trying on a cheap one - at a loss: Cheap But Angry, perhaps, will break down quickly - it will be clear that Panasonic is not to blame, but the residue will remain ...

Shl. IMHO, usually Panasonic does not break: - I have sweat PF30 from him for 3.5 years already, and problems seem to be not foreseen. And of my 18 Panasonic products purchased at different times recently, only on the TV I had to change the capacitor, because the voltage in the 220V network jumped very high: - the private sector, however ...

ЗЫ ІІ. Problematic, however, is a dilemmo: either take a popular, filled-out, average-size brand with an acceptable repair and replacement warranty service in your province, or take Panasonic, which will probably fail someday there, in the future ...

PS III. I have no unearned or labor income from personal reviews and personal long-term impressions of the quality of Panasonic products ...
Olga L
Quote: Naxa

I am in great thought. since I didn’t use such a unit before, now of course I don’t even know right to buy one that is not quite cheap. One thought says that a miser pays twice, another - you have to try on a cheap one. looking through different reviews.

I registered, especially to write to you.From my own experience, I have long been convinced of the veracity of the proverb that a miser pays twice. Therefore, I think it would be more correct to buy a thing more expensive, but of better quality.
We have a Toshiba thermal pod for 3 liters. We have been using it for 4 years, practically without disconnecting from the network. Although at one time it was so expensive .. but I think that I have already paid my expenses for a long time. Stands constantly at 60 degrees. And I know for sure that my child will not drink cold water, but only warm. The thing is convenient and necessary. Now I can't even imagine life without him.
LTBW
Quote: Olga L

I registered, especially to write to you. From my own experience, I have long been convinced of the veracity of the proverb that a miser pays twice. Therefore, I think it would be more correct to buy a thing more expensive, but of better quality.
We have a Toshiba thermal pod for 3 liters. We have been using it for 4 years, practically without disconnecting from the network. Although at one time it was so expensive ..
Ha, and already somewhere from 2005-2006 the "cheap" Elenberg thermo-pot has been working for me. Was purchased for only 300 rubles (i.e. less than $ 10, new, in the store, with a guarantee, did not use the guarantee). I was mentally ready to throw him out in a year at such a price, and he is out, already plowing the second five-year plan!
mowgli
And I also liked the thermopot. I used it when the children were small, so that they would fit less to the gas stove. Very much helped out. Firm. though some kind of Chinese, lived only 3 years ... But for some reason this unit sunk into my soul. I went to the store today. and there the prices are such that it is better to take one more bread maker
magenta
I bought a thermopot Panasonic NC-PG30PWTW, without a timer. Now I'm thinking about what to do with morning tea ... After all, probably, it should be turned off at night? And in the morning there is no time to wait 20 minutes until it boils.
How does anyone get out of the situation?
Julia V
I don't turn it off at all, why.
julifera
Quote: magenta

I bought a thermopot Panasonic NC-PG30PWTW, without a timer. Now I'm thinking about what to do with morning tea ... After all, probably, it should be turned off at night? And in the morning there is no time to wait 20 minutes until it boils.
How does anyone get out of the situation?

There are devices that are set in time to turn on, insert a thermopot into it, that is, as an adapter between the socket and the plug of the thermopot.
julifera
Quote: Julia V

I don't turn it off at all, why.

1 - for those who are on gas, every kilowatt is expensive!
2 - water standing for a day on heating for tea connoisseurs - loses its tasty taste, unless you drink poorly filtered water, the taste of which cannot be spoiled by anything.

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