Which manufacturers are the most reliable bread makers (survey - research)

Let's do a research among the members of the forum.
Select the model of your bread machine and mark in one of two positions - Works without breakdowns or There were breakdowns (Curved handles do not count. Broken lid fasteners are considered breakage.)
If you have forgotten someone, do not hesitate - I will add. You can change your vote if there is a breakdown after voting.

Elena Bo, well done! I voted for a new Panasonic stove, but I had a LV - 8.5 years without breakdowns, I could buy a new bucket - and it would still work.

Everything is fine, it's a pity you can't vote on several items. After all, there are quite a few people here who have had more than one stove. Here LG has been plowing for several years without breakdowns. And now it works.
And just in a bunch, today a girl alone told that her LG broke down several times, and she was tired of repairing it.
So here as anyone is lucky.

I specifically made 2 points to one manufacturer. This is the relationship of the broken to the used.

Elena,
in brackets (in percent), not the ratio of broken to used ones, but the ratio of CP from this point and the total number of ALL bread machines are indicated.
That is, the percentages indicated are still not those that are of interest to us.
Can you manually adjust this (what should be divided into) or is the poll fully automatic?

2 points to one manufacturer is the ratio of broken to quality. Like so?
But interest is automatic. They are counted from the total number of bakers participating in the survey.
Here we should rather not look at the percentages, but at the numbers. We take one manufacturer and see how many are of high quality and how many are broken.

Was today at the House-Bread at the All-Russian Exhibition Center. Unwittingly, she witnessed the conversation. The customer begged her to find anything that would help her bake normal bread. (And the choice can be said not enough). The seller clarifies that it is not working, the manufacturer and suddenly there is a cry or a sob: "again Moulinex, girls, well, when you start to grow wiser, do not listen to your mother so ask your friends, and not the sellers. their beautiful pictures ". Like this...

"Again, Moulinex, girls, well, when you start to grow wiser, don't listen to your mom like that, ask your friends, not the sellers. You all bite at these stoves because of their beautiful pictures"

Until the conflict flared up, I want to stand up for the bread maker, not only Moulinex, just for machines for getting homemade bread.

Science fiction writer Kir Bulychev (it seems) has a story.
Brief storyline: in order to search for real talents, they gave the task to a certain plant to release a batch of outboard motors (very powerful and very cheap), all motors with a defect that cannot be eliminated by standard repair. All motors were bought, and almost all were returned back to stores after a breakdown (pure fantasy for the USSR!). The few who fixed everything by themselves were invited to do a very good job.

This I mean that on our site there are people (and you know them) who can bake awesome bread on a bread machine made with feet in a Mongolian colony for juvenile drug addicts.

There are no bad brands of bread makers! There are MODELS, in varying degrees, guaranteeing a good result for any BEGINNER.

And I think it's interesting. There are many different ovens on the forum. And isn't it interesting to see which ones are the most reliable? It will help people choose.

Concerning the known results. I know from myself that such polls do not affect (at least me) in matters of purchasing equipment.But the trend can be seen.

The survey was not created to bring up this already sore subject again. Wrote correctly Uncle Sam,

There are no bad brands of bread makers! There are MODELS, in varying degrees, guaranteeing a good result for any BEGINNER.

It is difficult for a beginner to understand, after all, the variety of stoves. And such polls will help at least a little to understand what breaks, more often, which less often, although this is, of course, a lottery ...

The survey leader is an expensive oven. Not everyone can afford it. Therefore, they will look at the rest of the models. And they also do not break - we will take it!

About the results known in advance, I agree 100% !!! Thanks to watching such topics, I feel that soon the inferiority complex will begin to develop with my Mulieshka ...

When I first came to our site, I thought I would develop an inferiority complex with my Chinese Alaska. And here's the result: they didn't drive me away, they didn't bite me, they helped me figure out what's what, they taught me how to bake delicious bread. I love my stove very much! But all the same, it is important to know what can break and how it is all repaired, because it is not for nothing that they say "forewarned is forearmed."

fewer posts from ordinary users, more and more on the commercial side and on anti-advertising. "It's boring, girls ...", said Ostap in an icy voice.

What is this for you?

And this is

In statistics, there is such a basic concept - REPRESENTATION. This survey is not representative, it is a hack - "manual" work. Well, in general, "democratic elections ..."

And this is what?

Viki absolutely agree with you!

By the way, the survey is only two days old, let's wait at least a week. If the people look more, they will vote more.

When I first came to our site, I thought I would develop an inferiority complex with my Chinese Alaska.

yeah)) I've been here for a month and a half without any stove hanging out. Ett I probably prepared the ground for more successful promotion of Panasonic on the market
Well, really, it's ridiculous to suspect the machinations of foreign spies or to organize a witch hunt.
For me personally, after studying various topics of the forum, the choice became obvious - if the funds allow me, then I want to buy an oven, dear to my heart, and giving maximum guarantees that the first bread will not come out lumpy. Before everyone else - the same themes and the same personal choice.

Good site ... Good people ... Most important
Good. home mood. this is a very high level in my opinion ..
And everything else. well, as in life, it also sometimes occurs ...

I also want to insert my 5 kopecks. I agree that if you wish, you can bake good bread on any bread machine. BUT! To do this, at least, you need to have the Internet, in order to ask experienced bakers about all the subtleties of this not simple business or a person in your city who succeeds in everything. Without this, bread can turn out in a month or two, whoever is lucky, who has enough patience ... Some people never succeed. I'm getting at what I'm getting at - the chance that great bread will turn out faster for some manufacturers is much higher (many people know which model I am talking about) than for others. (And remember how many products people throw away when they fail!) And, of course, in our survey stoves bought by people who do not use the Internet will not get in, and this is understandable. BUT it is useful to find out among your own. The mini survey is useful for beginners as well. I just imagine two grandmothers who were presented with stoves a and b. They pledged the same products, put about the same programs, one got brown bread, and the second a pale, dense, albeit edible brick ... Forgive me if I offended anyone ...

Maybe this is off-topic: I recently learned that Kenwood does not have a service center in Odessa.
I'm very happy with the stove, but if there is a breakdown, where should I go? The familiar knife-stirrer from Kenwood waited 8 months. And that's only because he works in a store of used equipment. It cost her 140 UAH. ($ 30) I bought a stove for $ 80. And tomorrow something with a bucket, etc.
Personally, I would not have waited so much, but would have bought one for which the details do not have to wait for months. All ovens are good until the first break.

Bakeries of all countries - unite! I just PER so that there are as many stoves as possible, good and different. Write about your merits - no one forbids this!
And mind you, not a single Panasonic owner has offended other stoves with a single word. The fact that we praise our own ... yes, there is such a thing. Duc, and there is a reason. But how can we not praise her, smart girl? Now I am firmly convinced that bread in Panasonic can be spoiled only by my own inattention or when laying out unsuccessful products.
No embedded ad agent would be able to launch such a campaign if people bought and then were disappointed with the result.

And some of our members of the forum have a heightened sense of their own inferiority. "My stove is not praised? - I will snap." And who will praise your baker besides yourself? And in general here we are talking about quality - the ability of a bread machine to work without breakdowns. And as Izuminka correctly noted, not a single Panasonic owner has offended other stoves with a single word. But to some comrades, some stoves are like a bone in the throat.

And I have a question about the vote.
Now my Panasonic works without problems, and before that there was Mulinex and with a breakdown.
I would like to mark both the first and the second, but it is possible only once. What should be done in this case? What to choose?

Choose what you are currently using.

I have a Panasonic. This is my first stove, which my husband gave me a year ago on March 8th. For a long time I trained, there were mistakes and failures, but today I can only say one thing I am very happy with her. A week ago I was in the "ETO" store and there, for interest, I went to look at the bread makers. The choice there was quite large, there were types of 7 or 8, but I can say for sure that in Panasonic the bucket size is the largest and in appearance it also seemed to me the cutest. Although I have a model 253, and 255 is already more compact, I definitely will not get dirty when my stove fails (in the end, this is a technique and someday it will break) and buy a Panasonic, even if it is more expensive than everyone else.

And I'll get in))) I bought the stove after spending 1 day on the site - in the morning I accidentally hit it, in the evening I went with my husband and bought a Panasonic 255. I decided that since everyone is happy with it, it means it's worth buying! The stove is excellent, although I had already wounded it - there was a heated airfryer next to it and a hole formed in the side of the stove in the body, but nevertheless it bakes without problems, it just turned out to be extra. ventilation)))
And yesterday I went and bought (my husband persuaded) Moulinex 5004, read about her and good reviews and not very much, of course, after Panasonic is a little unusual - like from English. language into German, it seems like the letters are the same but read in different ways)) and so, there are nuances in the inconvenience of using recipes, for example: warm water, there is no such thing in Panas, the floss is made a little worse. In the evening, when I took out Borodinsky bread, all the same, a groove broke at the lid, which entered the base, that is, what holds the lid. Even though I was very careful (I read posts about this stove) and nevertheless. To choose a mulineška together with his son (12 years old), he immediately saw that it was not done very well .. clumsy. But we bought it anyway, we’ll get used to this one, and it’s convenient to have 2 stoves (although it may be a perversion))) but in Panas the pizza dough was kneaded (2 times) and at this time Borodino bread was baked in the mulinex))) But baguettes can only be tried on track. weekend.

Good luck to everyone with your bread makers and delicious bread!

And I have a question about the vote.
Now my Panasonic works without problems, and before that there was Mulinex and with a breakdown.
I would like to mark both the first and the second, but it is possible only once.

This of course reduces the value of the survey. And there is no need to talk about clarity. Does the moderator have no authority to vote twice, three times to take into account the situation? If not, you need to ask TXT screw this opportunity.

The survey leader is an expensive oven.Not everyone can afford it.

And among LG there are not cheap, comparable in price models. And for Hitachi a year ago they asked for more than 4 thousand.
And the universal rule about the lack of wealth is to buy cheap.

Tell me, is it considered a breakdown some (frankly, quite strong) carbonization of the plastic at the back cover of the Panasonic-255? This does not affect the result yet ... Otherwise I don’t understand how to vote ...

What you call "plastic carbonization" is from hot steam deposits. Usually appears when the crust burns and after baking black bread. This is not a breakdown.

I bought Moulinex 5003. Worked for exactly a week, broke down (did not turn the stirrers). I changed it to another. The heating element did not work. The third turned out to be also defective (turned off periodically). After 1.5 months it broke down. The repair lasted for 1.5 months. Type of manufacturing defect. As a result, I choose a new one. Which one to choose so that by functions (and not by breakdowns) it was like Moulinex 5003? And what would Borodino bread be !? Tell me?

All those who bought Moulinex 5003, 70% stopped or handed it over for repairs within 3 months.

I bought myself a Panasonic 255 on March 8th. I searched for a month before. Then we met. The husband was guarding the only one in Eldorado (nowhere else) while withdrawing money from the card. Since then I bake every day. I tried different recipes. And from the site and from the instructions. ALL the pastries were good. Every time I thank the stove for the help. When choosing, I relied on the opinion of the forum participants: I needed a "workhorse". I hope I chose her. During the work, I did not find any charring or yellowing. Friends diagnosed the stove with a washing machine for eating. And they are right. You follow the instructions (recipe), observe the proportions, press 2-3 buttons - and the result is consistently excellent!

I wonder why the owners of HP DeLonghi, for example, do not all express their opinion, I have already seen a complaint about a breakdown in three of them, and according to the survey, it works great for everyone. Probably the new owners simply do not know about this Temko? And it seems to me that I really need it, especially for those who are thinking about buying a bread machine.
Owners of DeLonghi, don't be offended, this also applies to other HPs.

I was very unlucky with Delongy (125), I just bought it two days ago and immediately had to take it to the service ...

It's still difficult for me to judge, I have Mulya for about a month, at first there was a pale crust, I tightened the self-tapping screw on the advice from the forum, now everything bakes perfectly. punctures - lack of experience with downloads (I love experiments). Mulya is not worse than others, my impression after studying the forum materials and my little experience

Is it possible to repeat somehow this survey by 4 points according to the model
Nr: - works without breakdowns
-broken
-bought in the store
-bought in a-no store
It would probably be interesting.

-bought in the store
-bought in a-no store
It would probably be interesting.

What's the difference where it was bought, the suppliers are the same, and the marriage can be bought both in the internet and in a regular store ...

Well, they would find out what she is this difference - just something business.
For example, I would be interested in the opinion of not one person, but many people.
naturally, that marriage comes across everywhere - but the survey would show where this marriage is more often.
Unless, of course, this site is tied behind the scenes to some Internet store.

I am afraid that then this survey will stretch over several pages. You can create a new one, but where it was purchased and how it works. But ........ again, we are all from different countries. This means that a clear picture will not work, since online stores in Russia, Ukraine, America, Israel, etc. most likely work in different ways (at least, there are nuans).

we are all from different countries. ... a clear picture will not work, because online stores in Russia, Ukraine, America, Israel, etc. most likely work in different ways (at least there are newans).

I totally agree .. but what is there "from different countries" ..it so happens that people buy the same goods in the same city in the same store of completely different quality .. here it seems to me who will be lucky ..

Interestingly, do you know what percentage of Russian site members?
I'm just going to become a young baker and you have a lot of fun here.
And since my entry into the ranks should be timed to coincide with the crucial moment - my mother's anniversary on May 7 (she's just a bread soul!), I would like to buy where it is more reliable - I am in a panic that I will not have time to get 255 models and please my mother with your amazing Easter cake, Elena!
I already sleep and see, I really hope the dream will come true.
If you can ask the participants - if you see where it is on sale in Moscow - throw it off in a personal - I beg you!

Interestingly, do you know what percentage of Russian site members?

If everyone in the profile indicated where they came from (it's not difficult) and what kind of bread maker they use, it would be much easier to communicate (this is a hint).

While writing the answer, Elena Bo answered in the same way.

muuha, start with yourself, fill in the blank lines in your profile.

"all get out of the gloom!" (from)

Well, I'll go out, anyway there are no such wonders in the CIS ...

Come out! We are not afraid!
(well, maybe we are just a little scared of the photo)

And about curiosities ...
One of the leaders of the site is the Delonghi-125 stove, once produced only for the North American market under a different name. Delonghi bought the right to issue and renamed this popular and successful model. (as Alen Delonghi wrote in the related thread)

Personally, I sit and wait in Russia for a Canadian-Chinese yogurt maker.

Found it, thanks!
True, the Internet does not give data about this bread maker.
My Breadman is one of the most programmable in the Mercan market.
But according to my observations, the local residents need something simpler, two, three buttons, and she does everything herself. B&D was like that, for which I changed ...

I dug up some interesting information: it turns out that the automatic bakery was formerly called Eureka 11 and was supplied exclusively to the USA. It was invented by the company Ariete, which was known for incredibly innovative bread makers. Several years ago, these ovens could simultaneously bake 2 loaves of bread at the same time, and according to different recipes, they were programmable and differed in design developed by the design firms Giugiaro and Pininfarina. Eureka 11 has become the TOP model in the range of bread makers and has gained great popularity in Europe and the USA (2nd-9th place, Panasonic 255 - 16-20th place).
Due to the global crisis, an expensive bakery (due to numerous innovations and high-quality materials) was sold together with Ariete to the Kenwood group. And the Kenwood group was immediately bought by the giant Delonghi. The outstanding bakery has become Delonghi's flagship home bakery and has been designated "BDM 125S".
From the world's largest network of home appliances websites.

my stove is called ORION, made in europe, but I suspect that this is the ukraine-site of the manufacturer-orion. com. ya. She is 3 years old. I'm not particularly complaining. in appearance it is similar to the clathronic. please add the manufacturer.

ATTENTION!!!
I finally managed to edit the poll. What you can now:
1. change your voice.
2. if you have 2 bread makers or have experience using two models, then you have the opportunity to vote twice.

Personally, I recruited TEN people, they purchased various PANASONIK models, two more cannot find the model they want

I think it's time to demand a premium from Panasonic.

Boo Boo
They also owe me for MV, there the bill has already exceeded TWENTY)))

I have recruited 4 people, 2 people have already bought by Mulinex, the rest are looking for models

I honestly don't understand the debate over who has the coolest oven, in fact, they all knead dough and bake bread. I personally think that in order to get bread, you should at least read the instructions for your own bread maker, read everything there and advice and recommendations (you read most of the problems and you understand that they are written by those people who did not even open the instructions).And the most terrible science, as I see it, is to measure the ingredients correctly (if you have your head on your shoulders, you can measure grams without weights in glasses with spoons in an emergency, buy a measuring glass). Maybe I'm not right who thinks ???

In general, I bought an optimum bakery due to the fact that when I was looking for a bake for myself, then models of well-known manufacturers with those functions that I was not interested in at all (I searched for a long and tedious everywhere where it was possible both in stores and on the Internet). I wanted so much and the strength to seek, and there was no wait. Seeing this one and reading that it has everything I need without hesitation, I bought it and I am proud of it, it is my workhorse and there are no problems (pah-pah-pah).

Let's do a research among the members of the forum.
Select your bread machine model ...

A wonderful poll, but unfortunately absolutely useless in its main part, namely, to convey to a potential consumer information about the most popular models and their advantages / disadvantages. For example, I would like to see the results of the vote, and what I need for this if I only buy this stove tomorrow. Tell a lie by clicking a model at random? But many come to the site here, precisely in order to determine the choice of model. Well, of course, if we proceed from the fact that this information is only for "experienced bakers", then yes, everything is fine.
P.S. so I had to do it, poked at random, looked at the results, fortunately there is a "delete vote" button, but I think it's wrong, the "view voting results" button should initially be somewhere in the beginning ..

Couldn't we add the Australian Sunbeam here? Suddenly, besides me, there will be someone else - the happy owner of the Quantum SmartBake model ...

For my old bread maker - the hard LG - I also voted ...

Yes, along the way - those who vote "with problems" are likely to share these problems. For the sake of completeness. Since problems are different problems, and the reasons and conditions are different for everyone.

For example - on my old LG I was forced to change the bearing in the form twice. Fortunately, everything is guaranteed. But - it should be noted that at the same time KP was the only source of bread in a family of 7 people. That is, as they say - "in the tail and in the mane" ....

Could you add the Australian Sunbeam here. Suddenly, besides me, there will be someone else - the happy owner of the Quantum SmartBake model ...

Added.
And regarding the description of breakdowns, on the site in different topics, one way or another, these problems are disclosed in the relevant topics.