nila
Yeah, they bought ourselves Kasik, and you advise me Profiquk
I've seen a lot of Profiquk in internet stores, but I'll wait.
Tatka1
Natalia K., as if I didn't look under the spoiler
Natalia K.
Quote: nila
We bought ourselves Kasik
No problems. Transfer the money, we'll buy you Caso 10. The question is, how can you transfer it?
By the way, I have Ellrona VA 22, they With CASO VC 10 the same
nila
Let's start first with how to transfer money, and then think about how to transfer
Too golden for me Caso from you will turn out
natka257
Quote: LisaNeAlisa
And so I solder herring and mackerel, one by one, it is also very convenient. But it fits only without a head, but it is not needed)

The Status has a 12 centimeters wide film. For herring and mackerel, the very thing is, evenly fit in width. If you wish, you can cut off the sleeve so that the fish will climb into the head - if you really need it. But now the prices for this film have grown significantly, unfortunately. It used to be much more accessible. Therefore, when I use my reserves, I will look for Ali, it turns out cheaper there. I will definitely not refuse this method of storage, the quality of the frozen products is strikingly different from what was when frozen in ordinary plastic bags. And there is also savings in storage space if the product is correctly distributed in the bag before vacuuming.
For example, boiled mushrooms. This is a serving at a time. In the freezer, these bags are very compact. It is quite problematic to buy mushrooms (not champignons) in winter, but now there is always a supply of tasty things. I used to freeze too, but the taste of the mushrooms spoiled quickly enough. As well as their appearance and consistency. Therefore, it was on a very modest scale and did not linger for a couple of months until winter.
Vacuum packing machine
Vacuum packing machine
LisaNeAlisa
I froze the mushrooms in meter bags, and I pack the herring in a narrow status, only I divide it in half lengthwise.
Bijou
The better to pump out the air under the frozen food - they freeze less. I mean, they don't dry out. I froze several rather large portions with cauliflower in smooth bags. And my smooth ones are softer than the regular ones. Until I reported to the freezer in another house - I bumped one somewhere. I see that I am slightly limp, but I have already given up my hand - we will eat first.

Recently I took a closer look, and there the "bundled" one looks whiter than the evacuated one. There is much more frost on its walls inside. True, there is even more of it on a regular (without vacuum and sealing) bag of peppers in the neighborhood.)))
natka257
Yes, the product does not freeze, after defrosting we get practically what was originally laid. Butter - does not oxidize, you can safely keep a stock. Plus, smells stay where they should, and do not walk around the refrigerator, giving a unique smell to neighboring products)) I don’t know how for anyone, but for me it has become a new quality of life. Although initially I very much doubted the need for a packer, it seemed like a whim.
kykysik1107
Quote: nila

Let's start first with how to transfer money, and then think about how to transfer
Too golden for me Caso from you will turn out
Westorn Union transferred money from Russia to Ukraine (Slavyansk) (transfers only in dollars), there is also a Swift system.
Taner
GALLAACTIC,
Hello, I would like to ask you to conduct a small experiment, if not difficult. Could you try to put a regular container with a hole in the zip-lock bag and try to pump out the air? Will this work? Kitfort with packages is cheaper than status containers, so I ask.
lady inna
Taner, can I be for Galina, GALLACTIC, will I answer?
Of course it will work. In this case, the container must be sufficiently rigid.Soft plastic containers, and even more so those that serve as store packaging for food, deform. You can put a glass container or jar in a large zip bag. You can even close this jar with a screw cap. Probably, these containers should not have sharp edges and corners in order to preserve the zip packages. These and other methods are described in the "Lifehacks ..." brochure attached to the device (available on the network).
GALLAACTIC
Taner, well, actually, something like this:
Vacuum packing machine Vacuum packing machine

The second photo shows that the tomato burst "at the seams", because it was vacuuming from the heart

So that lady inna, Inna, explained everything correctly
And it will vacuum and keep it fine, and you could also wrap the container with cling film, leaving a small hole on top (this is if something wet, greasy, etc. is packed in the container so that the vacuum bag does not unnecessarily get dirty.

And, by the way, taking this opportunity, I want to tell you how much I fell in love with the vacuum caps that come with the pistol for the holidays, it turns out to be cool. It is a pity that Kitfort does not release them separately. , would definitely have purchased!
Anna67
Quote: GALLAKTIKA
a pity that Kitfort does not release them separately
A complete disgrace, I also looked for them, although I never used the fact that there is, including the dome cover. Somehow, there was no case. I usually cook just once, but if there is anything left, I don’t remember about the lids. But we should at least close the oil.
Song
Looked at what covers you are talking about.
Anna67
They.
I took the containers, just today we arrived at the point of issue. But they are quite large 1.3 and 2.6 liters, they take up space. With a lid, he covered and hid any existing bowl. And the status - well, I don’t want to start different-colored dishes, and so there are already three types. By the way, it turned out that the Vitessovsky ones work well with broken latches. I use it for marinating meat.
From now on, I remember taking a dome for biscuit baking, but it turned out to be no need to store, we quickly eat it, covered with an ordinary dome for microwave oven. Closer to the season, it will probably be useful to cover the vegetables - otherwise I don't like tomatoes from the refrigerator.
lady inna
GALLAACTIC, Galina,! And she was not too lazy to illustrate the answers to my questions about Kitforth - thanks. I also wrap everything "wet and greasy" in an additional bag. I cooked sous vide in these Kitfort zip-locks, although according to the instructions it was not necessary, but in the review of this device on ixbt com they assured that it was possible. It is possible, it is possible, the recommended temperature regime was observed, but now these packages are quietly letting through the air. I also regret the covers - there would be more of them of different diameters. Well, not very big, of course, otherwise Kitforth will have to puff for a long time
Anna67
Yes, they certainly have a tolerance for the diameters of the dishes, but somehow I don't want to put such a hat in the refrigerator
natka257
Quote: Anna67
From now on I remember taking a dome for biscuit baking

I also ordered a dome. But somehow it does not hold a vacuum - the next day it already lies in the refrigerator by itself, unvacuated. I read in the topic that I am not the only one with such a problem, if memory serves. What is noteworthy - it just stands on the table in the warmth, it can withstand a vacuum for at least a day or close to that. The principle of why I do not really understand.
Anna67
natka257, thanks for the info, well, I took it for a constantly renewable or not long one. Perhaps it is tied to the correctness of the form to which it is adjacent?
There was a mention somewhere that other containers need to be re-evacuated from time to time. For a longer time, this is probably just sealing in bags.
metel_007
Quote: nila
But at such a price as now, this is already overdue (((then I'll have something to watch with us
Hello everyone, I am also looking at the packer, but I have not yet studied the topic on Ali, I found this one, it seems not expensive at all

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What do you think?
Natalia K.
Quote: metel_007
What do you think?
Olga, I can only say one thing. If suddenly it breaks, then be prepared for the fact that the repair (if the packer is subject to it) will be at your expense.Since there is no guarantee for it. And if the Chinese give a guarantee, then only shipping will cost a pretty penny (at your expense).
Anyway, I think that such equipment should be bought here. IMHO.
Anna67
Does it break? Mine, too, do not remember where. But for all my almost 50, only one smartphone was handed over as a guarantee, and even then without a visible effect. The rest either I fix it myself (replacement of the module, fuse), or if it is too tough, I throw it away without pity.
This is because the local guarantee is as far from me as the Chinese one, I won't even bother looking for an address.
natka257
Quote: Anna67
Perhaps it is tied to the correctness of the form to which it is adjacent?

At first I thought so too, but I checked the same on the same plate. In the refrigerator, the vacuum under the dome disappears faster than in the warmth.
Taia
metel_007, it was about such vacuumizers that they wrote at the very beginning of the topic. They all broke quickly.
Bijou
Quote: natka257
At first I thought so too, but I checked the same on the same plate. In the refrigerator, the vacuum under the dome disappears faster than in the warmth.
Maybe this is because in the cold the "vacuum" increases and the dome cannot withstand such a load and depressurizes? Try to under-pump a little from the familiar and see what happens. What if I got it right? ))
Or maybe "gum" in the cold dunn and lose their tightness.
natka257
Bijou For some reason it seems to me - the second. In the same place, the dome itself is made of plastic, and the lower edge of the dome, which is responsible for sucking to the surface, is something like soft rubber. It may well lose its elasticity in cold weather. Moreover, I have a refrigerator - a serious guy and cold conscience. But I'll try to under-pump.
Gala1301
Quote: metel_007
Hello everyone, I am also looking at the packer, but I have not yet studied the topic on Ali, I found this one, it seems not expensive at all
Hello. I first bought the vacuum cleaner you mentioned. While he was traveling with Aliexpress, I read this thread from start to finish, then I read the information on the Internet and made the following conclusion: if you spend money on a vacuum sealer, then you need it to work in several directions. Then it will be useful equipment in the kitchen. So I bought Zigmund & Shtain and didn’t regret it for a second. I use it every day. If possible, buy with the ability to evacuate containers ....
metel_007
Gala1301, Thank you so much, Taya, I already wrote that this is an unreliable packer
Quote: Gala1301
if you spend money on a vacuum sealer, then you need it to work in several directions
Yes, I already understood, it's better to spend more for reliable equipment
nila
Olya, I also read a lot of negative reviews about this packer on other resources. I also look after Ali, but I don't even consider this one.
Although the Countryman seems to be like that, and he does not complain. And he even conducts some experiments and improvements with him. He promised to share his work!
Anna67
She brought containers from Kitfort.
I fell asleep with coffee, tried to close it for a long time - it does not close. That is, it seems to pump out, but with a slight movement of the hand By lightly hooking the cover, you can remove it without touching the valve. The aroma of coffee for the whole buffet. What's wrong then? Well, I can solder some of it into a package, but I wanted it for everyday use.
lady inna
Maybe there is a lot of free space in the container? Then the pistol will puff for a long time, because it is not the most powerful. Did you try to evacuate something other than coffee? In general, if coffee is grain coffee, then it is not stored in a vacuum, because it actively emits carbon dioxide, so a valve is made in the bags.
Bijou
Quote: lady inna
In general, if coffee is grain coffee, then it is not stored in a vacuum, because it actively emits carbon dioxide, so a valve is made in the bags.
Yeah? Is it true? I have never come across such information.

I went and poked my coffee with grain - nope, as I rolled it into bags in the summer, so stone and lie.
Anna67
Quote: lady inna
a lot of free space in the container?
No, not much, I tried to shove the whole kilogram packet of grains there. All did not fit.
And I didn’t try anything else in this particular container, I printed both two (coffee and container) and for a gun. So I came in search of nuances. And what to do with it back in the bag and on the clip the old fashioned way?
lady inna
Quote: Bijou

Yeah? Is it true? I have never come across such information.

I went and poked my coffee with grain - nope, as I rolled it into bags in the summer, so stone and lie.
Duc, Google to help Moreover, the older the coffee, the less carbon dioxide it emits. Very old coffee doesn't breathe.
Industrial vacuum packaging of coffee protects it from the penetration of air from the outside, but the valve in it allows you to relieve the excess pressure of carbon dioxide emitted by fresh coffee. Otherwise, the package will simply burst. Emptiness, vacuum, in the packaging of fresh coffee, it turns out that there is no.
Anna67
Quote: lady inna
in a package of fresh coffee, it turns out that not.
In grain, there is definitely no, it is enough to look at the package. Ground one, yes, it is pressed. Yes, and I did not want a complete vacuum, but to close it more tightly. Maybe well, pour it into a glass jar with a tight lid ...
Bijou
lady inna, yeah, I see. And I thought the valve was for sniffing.
And that this coffee is old is also true.
lady inna
Anna67, Anna, and coffee was not poured? 1-1.5 cm under the valve free space acc. instructions left? Maybe a speck of coffee stuck to the seal? I also vacuumized the rest of the coffee. Smallest container from the set, fully filled, in 20 sec. I'll watch him "breathe" there

Anna67
Quote: lady inna
1-1.5 cm under the valve
I'll go and see if it's less ... I'll have a cup of coffee for one.
Well, at least in the closet now it doesn't smell like gas and that's a plus. The container was open at all. By centimeters - there is about 1 cm to the lid. She covered it, tilted it to the side of the valve and pumped it out until it turned off. Naturally, the centimeter was gone because the lid bent strongly. But the first time I was, I did not expect a complete vacuum, so close it and that's it. We will now look at his behavior, whether he breathes there or not :)
Bijou
Quote: lady inna
1-1.5 cm under the valve free space acc. instructions left?
Wow. Why such a rule? So as not to get too much vacuum and the container does not crack, or what?)
Anna67
Maybe the content doesn't get sucked in?
Bijou
Do you think? That is, the container collapses when the air is sucked out and the product rises to the valve? But even then this is only important for liquids, I think.
Somehow, my containers don't take root very well. There is no point in sealing for one or two days, but we do not store it for longer. In large containers, I liked closing jars with screw caps, yes! All kinds of drying, so that it does not get damp and the bugs do not settle. And, even jam, which I do not boil, I also capped that season.))
Tatiana.k
Quote: Bijou
And, even jam, which I do not boil, I also capped that season.))
And tell me, please, where do you store this jam, at what temperature?
lady inna
Quote: Anna67

... But the first time I was, I didn't expect a complete vacuum, so close it and that's it.
Well, the reason was found :)
Bijou
Tatyana, just in the basement, we have our own house. It is cool in winter, but not particularly in summer. ((
I spread it out heated (60-65 degrees, probably), screwed it lightly with a lid and into a container. But I pumped out with a big vacuum. Then you open the valve and the lid immediately bends, being pulled into the can. Probably, it would have been okay without that, but I was so reinsured.)
Tatiana.k
BijouThank you
Bijou
Tatiana.k, bye, but not at all.)) I remember that all the jars outside were in syrup.
Anna67
Quote: lady inna
Well, the reason was found :)
Do you think? It may very well really have not finished. This time I kept it until it turned off and the lid was still in place. Whether the coffee is breathing there or not, I don't know. Fortunately, the container is not defective.
But. I often do not hold the button all the way (the lids bend so frighteningly that the latches of some containers fly off). And so that through this highly for a short time it turned out that the lid was just lying there ...I remember this only with flour. This is the version Bijou that the 1.5 centimeter rule applies to liquids.

Yes, I look at the containers not so much vacuum is needed as tightness, but vacuum as a bonus.
Bijou
Quote: Anna67
Yes, I look at the containers not so much vacuum is needed as tightness, but vacuum as a bonus.
I had three cans with Redmond. Even though I still kept it there in the summer ... I mean, it stood sealed for several months and it sizzled well when opened.

But in those banks, nothing sags, pah-pah-pah.)) Although I often turn on the turbo mode twice in a row, to get better.
Then I saw enough in the pictures of girls, how their containers cracked, and now I am thinking.
Anna67
Quote: Bijou
I had three cans with Redmond.
If with a hand pump, then I have one. Rectangular glass three pieces. Not only does the lid bend, but the latches fly off in the process. At first it bothered me, but here I watch the vitess without latches quite sucked in, Kitfort's ones do not have them at all and calmed down.
Bijou
Anna67, such:

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