I choose a harvester, blender, processor

Maybe a Berner grater for dicing + a Brown combine is better? Here's more about the Philips cube, but there is no whisk and the large capacity seems to be less than in Brown. And they probably make it in China + spare parts and service are not cheap.
I chose a hand blender between Phillips and Brown in the fall and chose Brown.

Well, China. I decided that it was expensive to transport parts from there, so they cost like half a blender, and I bought Brown, which is made in Poland. True, I also bought a mini-Philips, but it is produced in Hungary.

Good day everyone! I ask everyone for help in choosing. : girl_red: For a month now I've been torn between the Bosch FP Kubixx MCM5529Ru food processor and the new Philips Hand Blender HR1659 / 90. I read a bunch of reviews about this and about others (here I also got acquainted with the reviews of the girls), but still at least throw a coin !!! For me, the main thing is to cut into cubes, beat, knead the dough. Please advise, please!

Combining the kneader with dicing will not work. I am now also concerned about this issue, but I don’t bother with cubes - they are good at Berner. And as a kneader and a meat grinder, I tend to MUM 5 series.

Anna1957, take a closer look at 4 series of MUMs. In series 5, shredding can only be made into the bowl of the combine, and in series 4 - into any container, even a saucepan. Recently this was discussed either in this thread or in the combine, I don't remember. In the 5th series, the "pimp" from the bowl must close the combine, otherwise it will not work. In episode 4, this is not, I have MUM 4655.

Anna1957, take a closer look at 4 series of MUMs. In series 5, shredding can only be made into the bowl of the combine, and in series 4 - into any container, even a saucepan. Recently this was discussed either in this thread or in the combine, I don't remember. In the 5th series, the "pimp" from the bowl must close the combine, otherwise it will not work. In episode 4, this is not, I have MUM 4655.

In the 5xxx series, the bowl is metal and it is larger in size, so the pan is not needed

In the summer I rub apples in a six-liter saucepan. I don't think the bowl in episode 5 is as big)))

Anna1957, take a closer look at 4 series of MUMs. In series 5, shredding can only be made into the bowl of the combine, and in series 4 - into any container, even a saucepan. Recently this was discussed either in this thread or in the combine, I don't remember. In the 5th series, the "pimp" from the bowl must close the combine, otherwise it will not work. In episode 4, this is not, I have MUM 4655.

ATP for valuable information from the user. But I'm more interested in the meat grinder, and in the 5th series there is more power. And large volumes of vegetables are not so important for me, in the end it can be shifted.
It wasn't you who wrote to me about the Electrolux assistant that you can buy it in the UAE? I just got sick with it. Are you just guessing, or do you know for sure? Finland is also available - can't you buy there?

This is me on the basis of the assumption that it can be bought somewhere abroad

Anna1957, take a closer look at 4 series of MUMs. In series 5, shredding can only be made into the bowl of the combine, and in series 4 - into any container, even a saucepan. Recently this was discussed either in this thread or in the combine, I don't remember. In the 5th series, the "pimp" from the bowl must close the combine, otherwise it will not work. In episode 4, this is not, I have MUM 4655.

That "pimp" can be pressed in and fixed with tape, chop yourself as much as you want, no problem.
I am very happy with my 5th mum: beautiful, powerful and not as big as kenwood or mum-8. It stands constantly on the table, I don't even clean it, because I use it very often.

That "pimp" can be pressed in and fixed with tape, chop yourself as much as you want, no problem.
I am very happy with my 5th mum: beautiful, powerful and not as big as kenwood or mum-8. It stands constantly on the table, I don't even clean it, because I use it all the time.

Also a valuable tip. Are you satisfied with the meat grinder?

In the 5xxx series, the bowl is metal and it is larger in size, so the pan is not needed

And in the 4th series, the bowl is also metal, with the exception of only one model, where plastic. Also rather big at all.

Also a valuable tip. Are you satisfied with the meat grinder?

Thank you. To my shame, for six months of owning Mum I never used a meat grinder, but I plan to often make a small amount of minced meat in a grinder from a mixer. But we, in our family, are not meat eaters and therefore considered the function of the meat grinder as an additional one. I have used all the other attachments and use them with great pleasure.

And in the 4th series, the bowl is also metal, with the exception of only one model, where plastic. Also rather big at all.

At first I also looked at the 4th series for a long time, but the difference in power won, I really wanted a powerful car without losing its compactness. Power of 900 watts is felt very well in his work. It seems that the combine copes with all tasks without any effort, effortlessly and just instantly, with excellent quality of chopping, beating and squeezing.

[sazalexter]

At first I also looked at the 4th series for a long time, but the difference in power won, I really wanted a powerful car without losing its compactness. Power of 900 watts is felt very well in his work. It seems that the combine copes with all tasks without any effort, effortlessly and just instantly, with excellent quality of chopping, beating and squeezing.

Of course, if you have money, it is better to take more powerful ones. I just clarified about the bowl on the erroneous remark from sazalexter'a.

[sazalexter]

Of course, if you have money, it is better to take more powerful ones. I just clarified about the bowl on the erroneous remark from sazalexter'a.

I was not surprised by his mistake, I myself was sure that in the 5th episode the bowl was larger than in the 4th, until I looked at them on the Bosch website.
Apparently we were wrong because of the different shapes of the bowl. Here it expands, resembling a large bowl, and stands, as it were, on a leg, while yours has a more compact cylindrical shape.

[sazalexter]

Of course, if you have money, it is better to take more powerful ones. I just clarified about the bowl on the erroneous remark from sazalexter'a.

See MUM 4756EU Stainless steel bowl steel with a capacity of max. 3.9 l, MUM 4655EU Bowl capacity max. 3.9 l, can knead up to 2.7 kg dough (1 kg flour + ingredients) / bowl material: plastic MUM 4406 Bowl capacity max. 3.9 l, can knead up to 2.7 kg dough (1 kg flour + ingredients) / bowl material: plastic

MUM56340 Stainless steel bowl + lid, total volume 3.9 liters, the possibility of kneading 2.8 kg of dough (0.75 kg of flour + ingredients) In general, the bowls are the same, but not everywhere metal

5 series is cheaper than the fourth. In any case, in Techno-Point. It's strange

I almost bought MUM 4756EU, before NG there was a discount on it in the store, but after reading unflattering reviews.
refused to buy it.
I want to replace all kitchen units with one, only so that the meat grinder is reliable. It looks like there is only one option - Kenwood for $ 20,000.

5 series is cheaper than the fourth. In any case, in Techno-Point. It's strange

Maybe not promoted like the 4th episode? We have very few offers of mum-5 on Yandex.

You know ... if you try to cut a sausage with a vegetable shredder and stuff anything into a meat grinder, then any thing will break.

You know ... if you try to cut a sausage with a vegetable shredder and stuff anything into a meat grinder, then any thing will break.

I fully support it. You can kill a good thing. Just after reading 4 pages of reviews ...

Back to the meat grinder question, can someone tell me. What parts are in the knot that transmits rotation to the knife (I don't know how this unit is correctly called): plastic or metal?

Here are some photos and a full description. I personally photographed and described my combine.
There is a PLASTIC fuse inside. And rightly so, comrades !!! Because it's better if it breaks down from overload than the combine engine burns out.

I almost bought MUM 4756EU, before NG there was a discount on it in the store, but after reading unflattering reviews here:

refused to buy it.
I want to replace all kitchen units with one, only so that the meat grinder is reliable. It looks like there is only one option - Kenwood for $ 20,000.

Probably it is very good and powerful, if my kitchen was 10-15 meters, then perhaps I would have decided to buy it. For me, Kenwood is just huge, I can't keep such a colossus on the table.

As for the reviews, there are negative reviews about any technique, if this is not a special order, then someone is simply unlucky. And it also happens that a person does not buy, everything breaks down at once.

I fully support it. You can kill a good thing. Just after reading 4 pages of reviews ...

Back to the meat grinder question, can someone tell me. What parts are in the knot that transmits rotation to the knife (I don't know how this unit is correctly called): plastic or metal?

Mum-5 has a similar plastic part, as in the picture for the mum-4 meat grinder, but my part is of a different color and is not easily demountable, it is screwed to the screw with a screw.

Interestingly, in the newer 4 series models, the design is the same as mine or it was also "improved" with screws

I fully support it. You can kill a good thing. Just after reading 4 pages of reviews ...

Back to the meat grinder question, can someone tell me. What parts are in the knot that transmits rotation to the knife (I don't know how this unit is correctly called): plastic or metal?

Plastic is in ALL meat grinders. I only know for certain that the metal insides are in Panasonic and old meat grinders. the disassembly of the insides of different meat grinders was given.
Yes, by the way, for this in Panasonic there is no scrap plate

See MUM 4756EU Stainless steel bowl steel with a capacity of max. 3.9 l, MUM 4655EU Bowl capacity max. 3.9 l, can knead up to 2.7 kg dough (1 kg flour + ingredients) / bowl material: plastic MUM 4406 Bowl capacity max. 3.9 l, can knead up to 2.7 kg dough (1 kg flour + ingredients) / bowl material: plastic

MUM56340 Stainless steel bowl + lid, total volume 3.9 liters, the possibility of kneading 2.8 kg of dough (0.75 kg of flour + ingredients) In general, the bowls are the same, but not everywhere metal

I look at the models that we actually have for sale in Ukraine. Of the entire 4th line of Mums that we sell, only one bowl is made of plastic - 4655. What are we arguing about? And there are 4675, 4756, 4875 - this is what I have only on sale. And they are all with a 3.9 liter metal bowl.
I just corrected you, for the sake of objectivity.

I almost bought MUM 4756EU, before NG there was a discount on it in the store, but after reading unflattering reviews here:

IMHO a wonderful harvester for its price.
Thanks to him, the hands are free, and here are the results, for example:


Here are examples of beating, mincing, and various shredders. I don't know what my harvester couldn't do. Reviews ...
As one clever person would say "Your Baluvannaya Galya"

What kind of discs did you cut the salads? If possible, more details, please.

aha and I join the question!
I would find a disk for a disk for julienne (to make carrots in Korean) and for French fries

I have both of them, that's why I ask what they cut with what

aaaaa, you are from Ukraine, your discs are probably easier

I bought discs about 7 years ago, right after buying a combine. I accidentally saw them in an offline store and bought them
I didn't know that in Russia it is impossible to buy discs for a combine, maybe you have them in Bosch service centers? Or buy in Ukraine, and the store will mail it to you.

I bought discs about 7 years ago, right after buying a combine. I accidentally saw them in an offline store and bought them
I didn't know that in Russia it is impossible to buy discs for a combine, maybe you have them in Bosch service centers? Or buy in Ukraine, and the store will mail it to you.

Yes, we have them only to look for them or order and wait a long time, for example in 🔗

Sasha, tell me 🔗 suitable for 4 mime?

If it doesn't matter which of Sasha answers, then I will answer. K 4 MUM disc called JS1

But in the end they will be brought, albeit not quickly. We do not have them on free sale either, as far as I know. We used to be in the same store, but it was closed long ago. I once saw some disks in our local Eldorado. Maybe yours have them too.
And what does Bosch's service say - can they bring it to order?

The most interesting thing is that the mini-Philips cuts carrots much faster and does not spit vegetables when shredding. Although there are a lot of residues in it (compared to Bosch), if the carrot is small. But in Phillips, the disks do not clog, and in Boche, my julienne is clogged periodically
I like the Korean carrot from Phillips better because it turns out thinner, although not square in cross section. I mean that one mini-Philips is cheaper than three discs from Bosch)) At the same time, it replaces the bowl with knives, it has a disc for potato pancakes, a medium grater and a medium shredder. I won't say that I am wildly delighted with it, but now I hardly use Bosch, but I make borsch, Korean carrots, terrine and cookie dough with Phillips. If it was not 1.5 liters, but 2.5 and the power is more than 500 W, it would be even better. But he quite fulfills the money that I paid for him.

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I'm not Sasha, but I will answer. No, it doesn't fit! Because the disk for MUM 4 should not be called Bosch MUZ8AG1 and MUZ4JS1.

For 4 MUMs, all the bells and whistles are called MUZ4 and then the bells and whistles code. If MUZ8, then the accessory is for the 8 series. Their seats are different, and the pictures in the store could be confused, so do not believe your eyes.
Well, the difference in price is also noticeable. Accessories for the 8 series are more expensive, much

What kind of discs did you cut the salads? If possible, more details, please.

Morkovchan BOSCH Disc-julienne MUZ4JS1
Cabbage - a knife from a set with two flat knives
Zucchini and potatoes BOSCH Disc-fries MUZ4PS2

I previously uploaded the file _ Attachments for Bosch MUM 4655 and Bosch MCM 5529RU ProfiKubixx
Due to some circumstances, the file was broken, only one name remained. If any of the old-timers has survived, maybe they will post it if they see this post.

In a carrot salad, dark red is a bell pepper? For what dishes do you rub zucchini this way?

Using a french fries disc is very cool to cut cabbage for stewing. If it goes into the filling of pies or cabbage pie, then it is even better than a shredder, because the filling is more uniform, it is more convenient to "push" it into the pies
And the thick slices grater is great for grating pumpkin for freezing and apples for jam. Apples turn out very cool, and they can be rubbed into a cake like this.
It is very good to grate the carrots with a julienne disc, then freeze them. It can be used in soups, borscht, and simply for sautéing. It is then fried faster (after freezing).

In a carrot salad, dark red is a bell pepper? For what dishes do you rub zucchini this way?

Using a french fries disc is very cool to cut cabbage for stewing. If it goes into the filling of pies or cabbage pie, then it is even better than a shredder, because the filling is more uniform, it is more convenient to "push" it into the pies
And the thick slices grater is great for grating pumpkin for freezing and apples for jam. Apples turn out very cool, and they can be rubbed into a cake like this.
It is very good to grate the carrots with a julienne disc, then freeze them. It can be used in soups, borscht, and simply for sautéing. It then fries faster (after freezing).

We adore Bulgarian pepper, so I shove it wherever possible, probably we drink tea and coffee without it ...
It's not cool to cut cabbage for stewing with a french fries disc - it turns out the devils have a bow on the side. As if devils were dancing on it. The effect ... Well, if it were not for looking with a knife, and, as God will put it, they would get all kinds of figures. Best of all, IMHO cabbage is cut with a standard knife from the kit.
Another knife from the kit perfectly chops carrots "like on a grandmother's grater"
Pancakes can be made for others from the kit.
For me personally, for happiness, only the julienne was missing. But I bought when I bought it for fries. Almost unnecessary. Berner replaces at once. My Berner is over 22 years old and chops and chops everything.
I do not freeze carrots, I don’t like it at all after defrosting. We are not hares, we don't need so many carrots, we buy if we run out.

Did you also cut Bulgarian pepper with a combine? There are slices like on a Korean carrot, so I'm interested

Another knife from the kit perfectly chops carrots "like on a grandmother's grater"

And it is possible in more detail, I did not understand which disk and how it cuts. Because I only make carrots with a julienne disc, with others it turns out either very small or very large

I specifically emphasize that it is better to use disc-fries when cabbage needs to be stewed for filling in pies. It is not critical there how it looks, and it is easier to pinch pies with such a more uniform filling. If the cabbage is simply stewed (not for the filling), then of course it is better to make it with a shredding disc, I completely agree with you.

And what are you third pancakes? I do not have this disc for potato pancakes in the kit

This means that MUZ4 is suitable for MUM4, MUM5, and MUZ45 is suitable for MUM 4, MUM5 and even MCM5, i.e. for combines with knives. This is good, because the MUZ45 seems to be cheaper (or it seemed).

Of the entire 4th line of Mums, which we sell, only one bowl is made of plastic - 4655.

I looked - and by the way with me 🔗
I have a plastic bowl, not a metal one.

Daffi
When slicing bell peppers for cabbage from Basi used disc-julienne MUZ4JS1. Cabbage - freaky, I recommend. Fast, tasty ..
I cut pepper for various dishes with different knives, both from the set and not from the set. The result was always good.

Please pani nozzles for Bosch may the administrator forgive me

You my sun!!! This is my file made up .. Sasha, thanks for the storage and efficiency in the link !!

I have the same harvester as yours, I never cut pepper in it. I didn't even know it was possible. Thank you, now I will know what you can. Class !!!
What else do you cut or do in it? My heart feels that I don't even know half of its capabilities Tell me please

And tell us about the "grandmother's grater". I did not understand which of the disks you are using.

when the cabbage needs to be stewed for filling in pies. It is not critical there how it looks, and it is easier to pinch pies with such a more uniform filling. If the cabbage is simply stewed (not for the filling), then of course it is better to make it with a shredding disc, I completely agree with you.
And what are you third potato pancakes? I do not have this disc for potato pancakes in the kit

for me it is always relevant what the product looks like - whether it be pies or not pies. Fries are disgusting with cabbage IMHO, so why sometimes make it disgusting and sometimes good? I always do it with a standard knife.
Potato pancakes are not my jurisdiction - these are the tricks of another cook, but yes, this is a pancake attachment.

What kind of harvester do you have? Write, if not difficult. How long have you been using this harvester?
In the file which (sazalexter, I can’t get enough of it), I laid out already at the beginning of 2009, all the attachments at that time were indicated. Whether they released anything else - I don't know.

Grandma's grater is a standard grater, it is included in the kit (it was definitely in mine). This is a flip disc (small and large shredder).
I do everything in it. I love banana milk in the morning. Banana in a jug, a little milk, beat at 3 speeds, add milk through the hole, beat until foam. Very satisfying milk. If you are cooking something and everyone is tired of "well, kada already, well, we are already dying", then with such milk you can kill your appetite, so satisfying. Lovely in the morning. In the car, such milk makes it possible not to eat snacks and buffet.
All cake creams, cake dough, mashed potatoes are generally lost. The air is incredible after beating in a food processor in a bowl.Dare
I don’t boil eggs in it only. The fact that the bowl is plastic and not metal has its advantages. I would not lie, but at the time of purchase with a metal bowl the combine cost 2000 re more. A bowl is a little expensive. I chose this one.
There is enough power for everything I do, no complaints. Always on the table, I don't clean at all. Hands free. At first, his planetary nature simply astounded him. Beats up even 2 squirrels.

[Shurshun]

Shurshun, I already wrote several times that I have MUM 4655 and he is over 7 years old. my harvester was not included in the package, so I was surprised. The harvester was equipped with only three disks, which are shown in the photo below. I bought extra fries and julienne.

Which one is the "grandmother's grater" - the bottom one or the one on the top right in the photo?



What are you using the top left disk for?

Thanks for the storage and efficiency in the reference !!

I knew what would come in handy, I have a habit of downloading interesting technical documentation, especially from our forum. Very often useful things are deleted and then they cannot be found

Top two. I use it more at the top right, I like it. The lower one for cabbage is amazing, stripes ... the basin in the photo is 10 minutes of work on the combine with conversations, distractions, telecom and laughter, with a change of knives. First, shred carrots and peppers on julienne, or you can use any of the top graters. Then I rearrange it in no time (it is so convenient to rearrange the knives and quickly the main thing) on ​​the bottom grater and chop the onion first, then the cabbage. I leave it in the basin for 30 minutes, it drenches, and then not 4 but 3 three-liter cans of cabbage are ready.
I rinse the graters under water, the knives with a sponge clockwise. Washing takes 3 minutes. I pray for him really. If something happened - on the same day I'll sit down to look for a similar one ... I saw the prices that you discussed ... 10 thousand each ...

sazalexter
Sashul, I had a gesture from a singed mother - mikruhi even disappeared, I have never seen such a thing in 10 years. I thought about the disk of the khan, but they soldered the mikruhi and he plows) But the documentation was broken .. now, although there are two terriks, but everything is saved. There are a lot of pictures for the forum. While the house was building itself (for a long time), the file on the resource was deleted. Such pies with kittens. And I need this file to help others more, you know

You didn’t answer me for what dishes you rub zucchini on a disc-fries