marika
Girls, dear, tell me, please, the family is big, I cook and bake a lot, which is better to buy a KENWOOD food processor, model KM266 or BOSCH, model MUM 4756EU, I've read something and can't figure it out. I think KENWOOD. Who has this particular model. HELP
Svetik_
marika but only these two models do you have ??? Maybe there is Kenwood 020 ??? If yes then this is for you
marika
I would like to buy something faster, but we only have KM 266 for now or can wait
Svetik_
Now, if there is a 020 model, it is better to wait for it already
Svetik_
Kenwood KM 020 ..................... .... yes, there is simply nothing for that, but the choice is simply worthy, especially since you bake a lot, then, accordingly, a large bowl is needed
leka
I also think if a big family is better Kenwood 020, I have the most for 4 people! But the price is probably very different from 266
Svetik_
Someone somewhere wrote from the girls that 266 is not very good, but girls use Boshik, they like, of course, you choose, but if you opted for Kenwood, then only 010 or 020 model, in 020 a bowl of 6.7 liters, and in 010 by 4.6 liters
Kalmykova
marika ! There are many great attachments for Kenwood 10 and 20, which are very pleasant to help in a large family. For example, with rolling, molding of dumplings, dumplings, pasties turned into a holiday. Rubbing (sieve) - generally lovely, to grind any berries from bones, ketchup, cottage cheese. The potato peeler is beyond competition. All sorts of graters, shredders too. Wish you a happy shopping!
matroskin_kot
I'm quietly "dying" Boshik 46, an old one already. I read Temko and burst into pieces - Kenwood or Bosch - MUM 8 ... On the one hand, the attachments from the old Bosch, which will fit, but on the other, Kenwood really wants to. Nobody compared, huh?
zvezda
I'm not just comparing .... I use both of them ..
I choose a harvester, blender, processor
If I bought one, of course Kenwood !!!!! Bosch is a harvester and Kenwood is a machine !!!! All the same, they are sooooo different .... the power is felt .... but if the difference is materially sensitive, then Bosch is also good !!!!
matroskin_kot
Oh, now I definitely want it! And if there is Kenwood, what are you doing on Boshik? I’m still in the closet and Brown is gathering dust with two bowls. Sometimes I get it. The dough in Kenwood for dumplings is probably better. I’ll wait for an answer from Lui about her car and I’ll still order it. Well, let them perform later, I'll teach something that they will forget about Kenwood on the fly. I will order bushes of 20 roses, for example. Or remember how my oven was broken in my absence - sorry there is no emoticon with a vengeful face.
Tanyulya
I'm waiting for Kenwood, most likely on Monday he will arrive, but a similar Boshik ... burned out recently ... pushed chicken fillet into a blender, the lad could not stand it ... died ... and now I'm waiting for kenwood in the trash.
matroskin_kot
I have spare parts for Boshik full of nightstand. But all the same, fear sits when I chop or severely, that I will not stand it and grunt. Although you helped me out all this time, Tanyulya, what configuration kenwood ordered?
zvezda
I make a small amount in Boshik .... and when I bake it is very convenient ... dough in one ... and cream in another !!! Order matroskin_kot!!!! I have 023 too !!!
Py. Sy. And you can also ... if they say anything ... gooseberry ... too little bushes .. tsat !!!! Let them rejoice at the harvest !!!!
Zvezda askony
Quote: akapl

Advise, is it worth looking for "Energy" or switch and start wanting something else?
Cool stuff.
There are only two cons
No meat grinder. And there is no juicer.
So I stare at the Kenwoods
What is the difference between 10 and 20?
Is it possible to attach a juicer? If so, how is it for apples and carrots?
How does a ball grinder work?
Krupsov can't cope with trimmed meat ( 🔗)
You need a good grinder and juicer. If you whip cream from butter with condensed milk, it will be a plus.
Maximum dough for muffins (there is a bread machine for everything else)
10 for 15 t p-is it cheap or expensive?
(in Metro Cash & Carry) What's in the box?
The box is impressive in size
Since I saw at night, there were no managers, but pulling out a huge box is somehow not comme il faut)
What if I spoil it, I would have to buy.
I'm still at a crossroads
Zvezda askony
Quote: Kalmykova

marika ! There are many great attachments for Kenwood 10 and 20, which are very pleasant to help in a large family. For example, with rolling, molding of dumplings, dumplings, pasties turned into a holiday. Rubbing (sieve) - generally lovely, to grind any berries from bones, ketchup, cottage cheese. The potato peeler is beyond competition. All sorts of graters, shredders too. Wish you a happy shopping!
Need a rub for the red currant - for the jelly.
Does Bosch's Cube have that - does the Kenwoods have that?
Does it come as a set or do you need to buy it separately?
Potato peeler - throw a link how it looks and please tell us how it works
Where in St. Petersburg can you buy all kinds of attachments?
Family of 2 people.
Guests are rare. but I want to feed my husband deliciously.
I don't like peeling potatoes, so peeling and slicing takes a lot of time
Rina
We have a separate topic on kenwood kitchen machines ... There, all questions about this technique will be answered
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=114203.130

Zvezda askony
, and what are you peeling potatoes with?
Zvezda askony
Quote: Rina

We have a separate topic on kenwood kitchen machines ... There, all questions about this technique will be answered
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=114203.130

Zvezda askony
, and what are you peeling potatoes with?
How what?
Handles with a knife!
It's a dreary event and I don't like doing it
Therefore, if you can avoid, then +++++++
And you need
meat grinder
juicer - so that the harvest of apples and other things can be put into juices
potato peeler
ice cream maker - if she makes the same ice cream from distant childhood
(soft ice cream options are not interesting - not all of this!)
And which is better to take?
All separately?
Bosch?
Kenwood -? (Which are three types and a bunch of varieties)
Summer is not far off - I look closely, I ask the price
Rina
Zvezda askony, to speed up the process of peeling potatoes, use a special knife - for two people it will be more effective than any potato peeler.
I choose a harvester, blender, processor
Zvezda askony
Quote: Rina

Zvezda askony, to speed up the process of peeling potatoes, use a special knife - for two people it will be more effective than any potato peeler.
I have this - of different types.
Good only one. The potato peeler is very attracted by what she peels, but you can do something else at this time
zaka
Greetings!
You need a device that can cut into cubes. Naturally Bosch, but maybe there is something more budgetary and compact. You don't need anything other than cutting vegetables into cubes.
Thank you!
Zvezda askony
Quote: zaka

Greetings!
You need a device that can cut into cubes. Naturally Bosch, but maybe there is something more budgetary and compact. You don't need anything other than cutting vegetables into cubes.
Thank you!
The TV shop advertises two devices - which are cut into cubes
Cost within 2000 rubles.
Economically quite
Zvezda askony
Quote: zvezda

What kind???
CHIF SALAD - 3290-00
Now he is advertising on the TOP-SHOP channel
What is included?
◦1 cutting cover with removable pressing element
◦1 cutting insert for cutting into cubes or medium-sized strips (12mm x 12mm)
◦1 cutting insert for cutting into cubes or large strips (24mm x 24mm)
◦1 cleaning brush
◦1 high capacity (volume: 6.9L)
◦1 low capacity (volume: 4.5L)
◦2 sealed lids on the container
◦1 filter cover
◦1 large colander basket
◦1 small colander basket
◦1 double-sided grater (fine and coarse)
◦Collection of recipes
Ideal for salads, soups, side dishes and more
Can be washed, dried, stirred, chopped, diced and stripped
Salad Chef knives are made of stainless steel
Can be used to store food
Multifunctional and convenient
Chief Salad saves time and space

Smooth cubes deluxe vegetable cutter
Neat and precise slicing of vegetable ingredients for any salad - a lightweight and compact device that does not clutter the kitchen.
RUB 2,500 Code: 20181
Cost 1277
also teleshop
It will be very interesting to know the opinion of a real user.
It is quite understandable that only positive reviews on the website
They do everything beautifully.
I just heard that everything is not always as great as it is shown.
But this is from the words.
She herself never bought anything on TV.
It’s incredible to me how it’s all.
I like to touch, evaluate with a glance, monitor public opinion.
so I'll wait for someone to tell you what.

site top-shop point ru
9oksana9
My relatives bought it in a topshop email. knife. What can I say: everything is beautifully shown, but in fact it is not even worth the little money they ask for. Therefore, for 2 weeks I tried to return the knife and take the money, nothing came of it: the knife went nowhere, no one returned the money ... in general, a sad story.

And about cutting into cubes: I had a vegetable cutter that really cut into cubes - but the result depends on many factors: the type and quality of the product, the degree of its heat treatment and, of course, individual preferences. I think it's not worth choosing a combine only focusing on dicing.

And at the expense of Kenwood I want to add, now you can buy such attachments as: graters / shredders, auger juicer, a millstone mill to the Kenwood meat grinders, in total it comes out
Pirogok
Good afternoon everyone!
I was also puzzled by the choice of the combine. Assigned tasks:
- knead the dough (2-2.5 kilograms at a time)
- make all kinds of tiramissa and mayonnaise
- husband wants a blender
- a meat grinder would not be bad, but not fundamentally ..
Long ago I read good reviews about Kenwood, I decided to buy it.
But a question arose: I found the KENWOOD KMC 560 Combine:
Rated power - 1000 W
Equipment
Blender attachment
Corollas
Dough hooks
5 attachments
Meat grinder
Infinitely variable speed control
Electronic control
"Planetary mixing" function
Bowl volume - 4, 6 l
Country - ITALY
I did not find bad reviews, the cost is about 15,000 rubles.
And there is everyone praised 010, but it costs 23000 rubles and plus to buy an additional blender and a meat grinder (attachments). Does it make sense to overpay, and most importantly, I could not understand - for what? in the description on the Kenwood website, the difference is only in the power of 1000 and 1400, and the "hand finishing" of Kenwood 010?!?. Owners of the 010 model, please tell us what is the reason for this price difference? And does it make sense to take more expensive?
Rina
In fact, everything is very simple. KM 010 and 020 (and subsequent) have metal internals, while cheaper KMS have plastic parts.

KM is closer to professional technique, CCM is closer to amateur.
Pirogok
Rina , I understood correctly, it turns out that there will be plastic gears in the CCM? and metal only in 010 and 020?
I just read reviews about the KMS 266, there really are problems with plastic gears and mounts, there are no such problems for the 560 model ...
9oksana9
Quote: Pirogok

it turns out that the gears in the CCM will be plastic? and metal only in 010 and 020?

in the 500th series of the KMS, the gears are also metal, but besides this I found:
All-metal body
Improved gearbox
Rubber pads reduce noise and vibration
Motor overheating protection
Completely redesigned airflow for improved motor cooling
Thermal sensor located in the motor blade
Pirogok
Oksana, thanks!
I saw it too, the fact is that in the 010 and 020 series it is also written.
I even tried to call the managers, from the advantages of 010 they called:

more power, handcrafted design, handles on the bowl, and the fact that the 500 series is out of stock now ...

But since I bake several loaves of bread every day (for myself, for my parents, for my father-in-law), my bread maker works constantly (I mix the dough in it, bake in the oven), my husband says, she needs to put up a monument and told her to take it all the same professional technician ... So I will probably stop at 020, and I also found it even cheaper than 010. I just haven't figured out what the ambush is and why is it cheaper than 010? Internet shop Delivery. ru, can anyone come across?
Zvezda askony
Titanium Series
10,20,30,40,70 is the "older" line of Kenwood
She has the most attachments
When choosing, I was guided by the fact that this is Kenwood's most serious technique.
The blender, if I'm not mistaken, is included in the kit and to the youngest
It is more profitable to take 10 007
It costs 6 t p more - but it comes with a meat grinder and a centrifugal juicer.
Zvezda askony
Quote: Pirogok

So I'll probably stop at 020, and I also found it even cheaper than 010. I just haven't figured out what the ambush is and why is it cheaper than 010? Internet shop Delivery. ru, can anyone come across?
If there are 20, then definitely her
When I took - 20 in St. Petersburg was not
The price difference is a mystery to many. But this is better for us!
Pirogok
Zvezda Askony, the fact is that there is a juicer (even two), we do not use it, so I'm thinking where to attach them ...
As for the meat grinder, I'm also not sure if it's needed ... and then you can buy a nozzle, if necessary ...
In our city, such equipment is not sold at all, so I will probably order all the same in an online store in Moscow, and already either pick it up or delivery, I will consider it cheaper!
Thank you for helping me make my choice
Zvezda askony
Quote: Pirogok

Thank you for helping me make my choice
I'm glad I was able to be helpful.
In the Internet shops in Moscow I saw 17-18 tr yuez nasado.
This is what you need.
All dough attachments are included
And the rest when you decide to buy what you need
Lena82
I need a blender, I can't decide. I want a powerful one, so that everything is whipped (including mayonnaise) and mixed, and graters are also necessary. I looked at the Bosch MSM 7800 Blender, but there are no reviews for it. Help! You are welcome!
Zvezda askony
Quote: Lena82

I need a blender, I can't decide. I want a powerful one, so that everything is whipped (including mayonnaise) and mixed, and graters are also necessary. I looked at the Bosch MSM 7800 Blender, but there are no reviews for it. Help! You are welcome!
And take a look at Kenwoods 790, 791, 795 - the models differ only in color.
Both powerful and graters are included and the company has proven itself in this sector very positively.
And the Ken's knife is the most solid
tatalija
I have a Philips 7771 processor-combine. The graters are exactly the ones that are needed, 2 types of slices or straws (I don’t know how to say), in one word, chop the cabbage thickly or thinly, or cut the potatoes into slices. The second grater is a beetroot grater (and normal, I have such a misunderstanding on Boche), and a grater for puréing (it is convenient to grate potatoes on potato pancakes). These are 2 graters, different on both sides. There is a knife, very sharp, minced meat, for any whim, chop the onion. Another plastic knife is for dough, it does it perfectly, I haven't used this harvester with sourdough, but I make yeast dough constantly and perfectly. Then comes such a nozzle, I call it a skirt. Here I make a dough for pancakes and mayonnaise. And I make a pancake in a cocktail, a blender in one word, which is also included in the kit. I didn’t know before, the purpose of such a unit and always passed by, now I have it for six months and do not let it stand idle. I don't even always get a meat grinder, especially if I need to make the meat, as it were, sliced, for manti. I also have a Bosch combine, but it only works for me as a dough mixer, grater attachments, I don't like it, either too thick or thin, although the shinkova is good there. But a batch of leavened bread, only Boshik. It is difficult to say which one is more to my liking, since both work. Fortunately, she took both at a significant discount.
alexeyda
Sorry if I broke the forum rules by highlighting it in a separate topic.

The question is: Would you buy equipment that does not have a service center if an illogical product costs 2.5 times more?

The warranty is 12 months (return to the store).

I did not find analogues
a combine that can knead 2 kg of dough and bread dough (boshi kenwoods can be 1 kg (cheap), and this one 2 kg) and costs only 5 thousand rubles, that is, a difference of 2.5-3 times in cost
write that the production is Germany, there is an instruction in Russian
here's a link
🔗]

the cost is beyond doubt in Germany, it costs 70-80 euros (retail), and the company is represented on the market: bread makers, refrigerators

the service center was, but closed

Maybe someone ordered equipment from other countries, tell us.

reason for editing: active links to external resources are prohibited.
Rina
alexeyda, look for the TM Clatronic service center (they are twin brothers with Bomann, like the RTC). By the way, you would have issued your profile, indicated where you live. After all, service centers are a regional issue.
alexeyda
no help finding a service center i need
I created a theme for:
1) Clarification of consumer demand (worth buying with such characteristics and cost)
2) There are those who buy equipment in Finland, Germany, USA
They have problems with the service, maybe there is an electrician Vasya who fixes everything, that is, the parts are universal?
Rina, thank you, you have already submitted a good idea, take the repair to Ukraine (I'm from Russia).

Tell me, Clatronic for how long has been on your market, how well represented?
Rina
We have already been selling Klatronic for a couple of years for sure. Where is their service center, I don't know. Most likely, you will have to turn to the same repair equipment.
Daffi
I will transfer the message to this topic:

Girls who have a Bosch 4655 and similar harvesters, I ask you a question - I constantly want to buy some kind of device for it, but I can't decide which one to buy and whether it is necessary at all
I do not have a processor with universal knives, no chopper, no hand blender and no hand mixer, it is impossible to combine all this in one device
At the moment, I decided that a separate hand mixer is needed, and a hand blender is most likely not needed because in terms of functions it is the same as a blender from a combine. Chopper? I was almost going to buy it, but I realized that the blender from the combine can do all the same, except that it doesn’t chop the greens.
Now I'm deciding what is better to buy: a small processor like this 🔗 or it is better to buy a multi-mixer, which is sold as a nozzle for a combine.
FOR a Philips processor - low price, acceptable capacity, there are graters and shredders that complement the Boshevsky ones + takes up little space
AGAINST a small power of 350 W, chops no more than 200 g of meat, it is dreary to break, because the motor is on top and first you need to remove it, then only the lid.
FOR Boshevsky multimixer - power = power of the combine, i.e. 550 W
MINUS - I already have all these graters and shredders, I don’t need a second set, I’ll hardly sell them to anyone, because everyone who has Bosch combines have them
Help with advice to the confused me
Elninio
I recommend everyone the new Kenwood HB724 with a triple blade, it is simply incomparable! And mashed potatoes are just a fairy tale!
Before Kenwood, there were 2 Bosches in a row in different trim levels and both died. (((
Kenwood is really not much better !!! And he is much more powerful than brownies, which is good news. ))
Catwoman
Yesterday I ground the village cottage cheese with Keshikom, first in the grinder, and then with the nozzle for mashed potatoes, just a fairy tale! Once again I said to myself - thanks Lena that you bought it!
Daffi
And one multi is enough for me.But I want a Brown blender with a bunch of graters, despite the fact that I have a combine and a blender, I don't seem to need anything
I don't know how to dissuade myself from buying a blender, I have been fighting with myself for three months
Girls, what are you doing with a hand blender if there is a glass blender in the food processor?
rusja
Daffi
the main thing is to make cocktails and mashed potatoes, and a glass does not always cope with this, but regarding graters in Brown, then in the Brown topic, I wrote and I was supported by other purchasers that they are not very functional there, that is, you get a completely wrong product in the end, which tuned in
Lozja
Quote: Daffi

Girls, what are you doing with a hand blender if there is a glass blender in the food processor?

The only thing is that I make a whack-whack of something hot right in the pan or in the bowl where it is. Because I don't risk pouring hot into the blender glass. I do the rest in the blender of the combine. Or in the large bowl of the combine, if there is a lot of something.
In general, I don't like a submersible blender, somehow I don't really like how it works, it's easier for me to grind / mix in a regular one, including cocktails.
SupercoW
Quote: Daffi

And one multi is enough for me
I have no idea how it can be.

Quote: Daffi

Girls, what are you doing with a hand blender if there is a glass blender in the food processor?
but I only use a blender for chopping baby purees. somehow I do not see other uses for it.
the mixer is constantly in use - all kinds of baked goods. and a combine in the subject was presented - I rub a lot of vegetables on it at a time, then I freeze it. mixing dough for muffins.
lesik_l
And my blender is constantly in use: chop, mix, knock down mayonnaise. I often make fruit ice cream - without it, it's not real at all. Yogurt with fruit, cottage cheese with fruit gravy, squash caviar, onion and garlic for minced meatballs, and you can't remember all of them.
Lozja
Quote: lesik_l

And my blender is constantly in use: chop, mix, knock down mayonnaise. I often make fruit ice cream - without it, it's not real at all. Yogurt with fruit, cottage cheese with fruit gravy, squash caviar, onion and garlic for minced meatballs, and you can't remember all of them.

I'm so used to doing all this in a combine. I think if Daffi I also got used to my harvester, then it is unlikely to switch to a submersible in this regard. Although, anything can be.
lesik_l
Combine for large volumes, and a blender is always at hand.
In the combine, you need to change the attachments, then wash everything - but here with one movement of the hand and in any dish.

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