Choosing an electric stove

Kind to everyone !!!

Tell me if there are Hansa stove owners among us ... how are they?

In St. Petersburg, we have such a flimsy choice among email. plates, uzhos ... and in the internet, mostly at the price for me Toko Hansa ...
That Beko that I want is also Toko in Moscow sites ... it's common ... I don't want to mess with delivery ... (Toko in Moscow 1000re) ...

[Petrof]

Petrof, give instructions for my husband about the installation. He does everything with his own hands. I want to warn him in advance what awaits him. Well, I myself also want to decide finally. I understand correctly that you will have to buy some kind of cutting table and stuff it all there?

Eternal child, I have a hansa installation. No complaints, everything is fine.

[Petrof]

Petrof, give instructions for my husband about the installation. He does everything with his own hands. I want to warn him in advance what awaits him. Well, I myself also want to decide finally. I understand correctly that you will have to buy some kind of cutting table and stuff it all there?

Forgive me - I didn't really understand about some kind of cutting table, the fact is that my panel is cut into the countertop, and under the countertop in the place of the inset there is a special cabinet with two large (deep) sliding drawers. Why special? The drawers do not reach the rear wall of the cabinet for about 5 cm, so that the fans can cool the panel during operation, etc. heating and from the inside could suck in air from somewhere (kitchen "Tarcetеtti", but I think everyone's so - there is a gap).
the second - along the entire perimeter from the bottom of the hob along the edge there is a strip of spongy soft rubber, which, in theory, shrinks during the installation of the panel into the countertop (but this is purely theoretical - in practice it does not shrink much and the view is ugly and a gap appears, but this is simple unacceptable) the following should be done - peel off this strip of rubber and apply an even layer of sealant in its place with such a long continuous sausage and install the panel in a cut-out cut through a stencil (attached to the panel). We must not be lazy and go through the entire countertop around the cutout with tape, stepping back a little (how little - to determine by trying on the panel in the cutout without sealant). And on the front of the panel along the edge, go through the tape too, so as not to scrap the sealant later. Then spread, as I said, the panel, put it into the cut-out hole and tighten (screws are also usually attached to the panel), gently remove the excess sealant with a wet finger and then carefully remove the tape. And that's it! (the best sealant is Finnish, in my opinion "Kessoiil" - it has high adhesion and it is intended for these works)
I sincerely wish you good luck and pleasure in using the panel.

[Petrof]

Petrof, Thanks for the detailed answer. The fact is that I do not have a countertop at the moment. I have a stove on the wall, a dishwasher (freestanding), a sink and a refrigerator and that's it. That is, there is nowhere to embed. I need an oven under the panel. From your post, I realized that all this is built into a special cabinet, and not into a regular one. In general, my husband will have another headache, but I still want to uuuuuuuuu induction.

I think you can find such a suitable cabinet, I just had it in the kitchen kit, for example, for example, kitchens are sold in Ikea block by block - you can, for example, look there or where kitchens are sold - something separate - this problem can be solved.

I just have the upper cabinets from Ikea, but the lower ones simply do not. There is nowhere to put. Well, now the bottom cabinet will be visible.

I have a scraper - an electrolux, but a detergent with silicone for ceramics I strongly recommend "Cinderella" - about 30 rubles (I buy in "Home Master" near Kuzminki metro station, but I saw it even in Latvia this summer), the quality is excellent.
And again good luck to you

Induction happens so far only in individual panels.
A multifunctional oven is a good thing. The main thing is to learn how to use it all. The timer in my oven is very good. Can turn the oven on and off at the time I specify. Very comfortably. No need to follow her, no need to run to the timer, no need to be at home at all at the time of cooking
Convection is an indispensable thing in baking. From meatloaf or ham in a ham maker, to meringues and muffins. The crust turns out to be good, crispy, bakes faster than on simple shades. Convection grill is a separate story ...

I will also add about the ceramic plate. I bought my stove in April. I went to a friend, I ask, is it difficult to wash? She says pancakes are harder. I believed her, it turned out to be true. After normal cooking (when grease was simply splashed, for example) - 1 time I run it over the entire panel with a sponge dipped in Fairey, 1 more time - with a wet cloth (I bought small terry napkins in Auchan), and the last time - with a kitchen paper towel. ALL. Finished washing. And pancakes, and even enamel on a regular stove? These rims are creepy metal, always stained, only with a brush and powder ... Once a drop of sugar. Frozen. I washed it for a long time, I don't have a scraper (I didn't seem to need it yet). With an ordinary knife, I carefully scraped off the sugar itself, and then washed it with a stove cleaner (also Luxus). By the way, ceramics also loves ordinary Sif. Also not bad, especially when the meat in the grill pan sprinkles a lot

Induction happens so far only in individual panels.
A multifunctional oven is a good thing. The main thing is to learn how to use it all. The timer in my oven is very good. Can turn the oven on and off at the time I specify. Very comfortably. No need to follow her, no need to run to the timer, no need to be at home at all at the time of cooking
Convection is an indispensable thing in baking. From meatloaf or ham in a ham maker, to meringues and muffins. The crust turns out to be good, crispy, bakes faster than on simple shades. Convection grill is a separate story ...

I will also add about the ceramic plate. I bought my stove in April. I went to a friend, I ask, is it difficult to wash? She says pancakes are harder. I believed her, it turned out to be true. After normal cooking (when grease was simply splashed, for example) - 1 time I run it over the entire panel with a sponge dipped in Fairey, 1 more time - with a wet cloth (I bought small terry napkins in Auchan), and the last time - with a kitchen paper towel. ALL. Finished washing. And pancakes, and even enamel on a regular stove? These rims are creepy metal, always stained, only with a brush and powder ... Once a drop of sugar. Frozen. I washed it for a long time, I don't have a scraper (I didn't seem to need it yet). With an ordinary knife, I carefully scraped off the sugar itself, and then washed it with a stove cleaner (also Luxus). By the way, ceramics also loves ordinary Sif. Also not bad, especially when the meat in the grill pan sprinkles a lot

Everything, they convinced me to use ceramics, otherwise I was still hesitating ... it was only left to pick up a model ... with convection, probably good, but a little expensive for me ... I think I can do it ... thanks for the details ...

And another question: how is a mechanical and digital timer? And then I keep looking so that there is a timer (or is it a clock?) On the front panel ...
and fast heating is very necessary or is it heating up so quickly?

I think mechanical is when you turn the knob and set the time. Most likely, such a timer will not have the function of turning the stove on and off. It will just ring after a certain time. Digital - numbers are displayed, usually it can turn on and off at a certain time.

and fast heating is very necessary or is it heating up so quickly?

The eternal child, the glass-ceramic stove heats up very quickly, before you can look back, the water has already boiled in a saucepan, not like with pancakes.

The eternal child, the glass-ceramic stove heats up very quickly, before you can look back, the water has already boiled in a saucepan, not like with pancakes.

In my opinion, everything is not so simple here. If we compare pancakes and ceramics, then yes. And if the ceramics are among themselves ... The heating rate depends on the type of heating element. There are options. Halogen heats up faster. Again, it is possible in some glass-ceramic hobs to temporarily transfer power from one burner to another. But judging by the info that I shoveled while choosing for myself, the fastest water boils on induction, 3 liters in 1-2 minutes.
I could be wrong. Correct if you see fit.
And about the need for fast heating, it's up to everyone to choose for themselves. For example, it would be good for me to pour boiling water from the tap))) I can forget to put water in advance, or I need to cook 3 dishes in 15 minutes. The minutes of waiting for water to boil on the stove are painful for me.

In my opinion, everything is not so simple here. If we compare pancakes and ceramics, then yes. And if the ceramics are among themselves ... The heating rate depends on the type of heating element. There are options. Halogen heats up faster. Again, it is possible in some glass-ceramic hobs to temporarily transfer power from one burner to another. But judging by the info that I shoveled while choosing for myself, the fastest water boils on induction, 3 liters in 1-2 minutes.
I could be wrong. Correct if you see fit.
And about the need for fast heating, it's up to everyone to choose for themselves. For example, it would be good for me to pour boiling water from the tap))) I can forget to put water in advance, or I need to cook 3 dishes in 15 minutes. The minutes of waiting for water to boil on the stove are painful for me.

Yeah, thanks for the answers ... I already understood about induction, but it is in the cooking stoves, but I completely need the stove ... I just have Radial and High-light (fast heating), so I think: I need it or not. ... yes, but 3 liters in 2 minutes class of course ...

I read the last posts and realized that we were talking about the rapid heating of the oven. But regarding this, my opinion is the same as in the case of the heating speed of the burner. Everyone chooses for themselves. For people who are impatient or forgetful, rapid heating is a very necessary thing.

[Pogremushka]

I read the last posts and realized that we were talking about the rapid heating of the oven. But regarding this, my opinion is the same as in the case of the heating speed of the burner. Everyone chooses for themselves. For people who are impatient or forgetful, rapid heating is a very necessary thing.

No no no, Pogremushka , I'm all about the burners ... I spy on the oven so that it has convection ... but I won't die without it, I'm not fussy ...

In my opinion, everything is not so simple here. If we compare pancakes and ceramics, then yes. And if the ceramics are among themselves ... The heating rate depends on the type of heating element. There are options. Halogen heats up faster. Again, it is possible in some glass-ceramic hobs to temporarily transfer power from one burner to another. But judging by the info that I shoveled while choosing for myself, the fastest water boils on induction, 3 liters in 1-2 minutes.

Pogremushka I have nothing to compare with I have glass ceramics for 10 years, and before that I was electric with pancakes, and I do not know what heating elements I have (honestly speaking, this is not even interesting to me), but my old lady heats up very quickly and does not function inferior to modern stoves, and even surpasses some in terms of oven capabilities.

And another question: how is a mechanical and digital timer? And then I keep looking so that there is a timer (or is it a clock?) On the front panel ...

A mechanical timer switches off the oven after the specified time.In some models, the oven turns on only after setting the time. Personally, it bothered me very much - either the timer knob is not cool and the oven does not heat up, then I need the oven turned on for more than 60 minutes - I will not turn it on in time, it turns off .... The digital can turn on and off at the specified time. And with the timer off, the oven works too.

The electronic timer for the oven is a cool thing. First, the extra hours in the kitchen. I have a red light. Secondly, at least in my stove - it can not only turn off the oven after the right time (accurate to a minute), but also turn it on at the right time, and then turn it off. That is, guests for example. Before they arrive on a baking sheet, meat with spices, vegetables, potatoes. I turned on the timer, that's it, I don't think about hot. She turned it on at 2 o'clock herself, turned it off at 3 o'clock, I just had to serve
The burners of glass ceramics are different. I chose with this very Hi something there. But I still boil water in a teapot, it seems to me so faster (well, I’m probably outdated).
For glass ceramics, dishes are important. I bought here a frying pan Neva-pancake-metal ... everything is in mind, for glass ceramics it is suitable ... yeah ... the bottom is crooked, it rolls on the stove ...

I checked my dishes with a magnet. Everything will have to be changed. I have a set of pans, I always thought they were steel, but it turned out not. The only thing the magnet stuck to was an old enamel pot. I brought her from the dacha and still won't send her back.

Since I am also preoccupied with the purchase of a glass-ceramic panel, I looked through the whole topic, but, unfortunately, did not find an answer to my question. Tell me, plizz, who can ... The fact is that I have a large family (5 people) and I have to cook a lot. And the point is not even that there are many, but that I put on my electric stove ("Hephaestus" with pancakes) pots from 3 to 14 liters per one burner. I read that glass ceramics cannot withstand this. Who experimented with the weight of pots, tell me? I really want glass ceramics, but it seems I won't survive if I have to cook several small pots of the same borscht at once, or cook compote in a small container, when I drink 12 liters in 2 days ...

mish, honestly speaking, I did not put 14 liters on the stove, and I don’t have such a saucepan, but five liters is normal, but if you count the total, then I always have all the burners occupied on one, it can stand 5 liters on the other 3 liters on the 3rd - 3L, and after 2 liters, I often have such options and nothing for 10 years.

This is already comforting! And then somewhere I read that in total on the stove (that is, all the burners) no more than 10 (in some places 15) kg. And who else had the experience of cooking, say, compote in a large container?

I cook the compote in a 7-liter saucepan. The stove is working properly.

Thank you for your reply! I leave the question of the container open - pull yourself up, advisors! Another question has ripened - how do you, the owners of glass ceramics, cook the jam? It splashes, but they say that sugar is fatal for glass ceramics - it cracks from it and somehow decomposes at all ...

Another question has ripened - how do you, the owners of glass ceramics, cook the jam? It splashes, but they say that sugar is fatal for glass ceramics - it cracks from it and somehow generally decomposes ...

mish where did you get such nonsense? There is nothing that does not crack and does not decompose, well, sugar will bake on the stove, so you will scrape it with a scraper and that's it. How many times I have had sand right on the switched on burner itself and nothing.

I looked into the passport of the Hansa stove with halogen heating elements. It is written that dishes over 25 kg should not be placed on the hob.
And now about the jam. You just need to control the boiling at the beginning of cooking. Then reduce the temperature to a slow boil and add sugar.

mish where did you get such nonsense? There is nothing that does not crack and does not decompose, well, sugar will bake on the stove, so you will scrape it with a scraper and that's it. How many times I have had sand right on the switched on burner itself and nothing.

This is not nonsense, I also read in the rules for the care of glass ceramic. a stove that the surface does not like dirty rags, and spilled syrup.
When this happens, you need to add some water so that it does not dry out or wash it immediately.

You need to watch the jam on any surface of the plate.

Thank you very much! So I weigh all the pros and cons - my acquaintances also frightened me with the difficulty of cleaning, sugar splashes that decompose the panel, but they themselves have a "pancake" stove, so I will listen to what I have learned here.

I boiled linen in the tank on my socket (I have it for 15 liters somewhere ...). And about jam - it's true, it is written that the ingress of molten sugar is not desirable (why it is not said), but I cook jam often, nothing sprinkles with me ...

Oh, about the 15-liter tank is especially valuable! My mother gave me a stainless steel pot of 14 liters. It's about her I'm worried about - it's a pity to use it in the form of just a storehouse for something, I want it as intended.

Information for Boo-boo.
I have a Kaiser HC 60082. I like everything and everything suits me. The only pity is that I rarely use the comfort for the gosper - sometimes I cook on it in a very large frying pan.

Girls, put me a kitchen and a new hob the day before the new year. Induction Siemens. I hasten to share my delight! How I like to cook on it! Almost faster than micro! Boil water - one moment, heat the pan - a few seconds! And how cool it is to regulate the heating power - so it would be played! In recent days, I often catch myself thinking "what else to cook?" I even abandoned the cartoon. There was already an experience with the "runaway" of the liquid - immediately rubbed the beauty. Doesn't really burn. In general, knowing all the advantages of induction systems is one thing. But watching them in place of the old plate with pancakes is fantastic!

My "pancake" ZVI cooker was mercilessly smashed by my husband, and an induction cooktop was placed on top of it. Naturally, the design is temporary, but it looks very funny.
Impressions from the induction system are only positive. The water in a five-liter saucepan boils in about a minute. The frying pan heats up instantly, really instantly, I'm not exaggerating. There is a timer that turns off the hotplate after a specified time, just like a multicooker. And most importantly, the heating decreases instantly, there is no need to screw it up in advance or remove it from the hot pancake so that it does not burn and run away, the owners of "pancake" stoves, I think, will understand my joy.

We haven't been here for a long time. Friends, you need to buy a good freestanding electric stove with a multifunctional oven. Top - glass ceramics. Who will advise what from their own experience. I chose the third day and realized that out of such a variety on the market, my head was already spinning and everything was messed up. Give advice, I'm really looking forward to it.

At first I also wanted a detached one, but gave up this idea. I didn't find a single induction cooker, or maybe I just didn't look well.
I have heard very good reviews about Gorenje.

[Boo Boo]

Boo Boo
Thank you for responding. I considered three manufacturers: Bosch, Electrolux, Gorenje. I stopped at Gorenje, and you approved me in this decision. thanks for the support

[Boo Boo]

Boo Boo
Thank you for responding. I considered three manufacturers: Bosch, Electrolux, Gorenje. I stopped at Gorenje, and you approved me in this decision. thanks for the support

Will I really upset you if I say that you shouldn't buy Gorene? Well, I didn't want to write this, I didn't want to! Not so long ago she dissuaded her friend from Goreny, but she obeyed her husband. As a result, they have already repaired it twice and now she is not at all happy. I talked with the seller of refrigerators on Prazhskaya Street in El. Paradise, so he confirmed to me my fears about this brand, remained from Goreny the stereotypical opinion about this brand that has settled in us since Soviet times. Now the quality is as it gets. e. lottery. Sorry, I didn't mean to upset.

p / s / I have if something is Bosch. Satisfied. 5 years of cooking without breakdowns.

[Andreevna]

Andreevnaconsider induction, though. Of course it's more expensive, but it's worth it. We do not buy a stove for one day.
My sister has had a burning stove for a very long time. Recently, my niece chose a stove for herself, studied the reviews, it seemed they also tended to Gorenie. You are still not in a hurry, it is better to collect reviews. The more opinions, the clearer the picture. I bought both an oven and a cooking stove at IKEA. Tempted by a 5 year warranty.

I bought both an oven and a cooking stove at IKEA. Tempted by a 5 year warranty.

So in IKEA they sell good equipment, under the Whirlpool brand. Well, at least what I saw.

So in IKEA they sell good equipment, under the Whirlpool brand. Well, at least what I saw.

Yes, that's right. It's still difficult for me to judge the quality, I have been using it not so long ago.

Yes, that's right. It is still difficult for me to judge the quality, I have been using it not so long ago.

I don't even doubt Whirlpool! Great choice! I have been plowing a microwave and a dishwasher for over 7 years.

still consider induction.

I already thought. It is tempting, of course, but .... the whole family loves coffee only from the Turkish, and at induction it is a problem. Well, I will use the hob very little, two multi spoils. But I need a good oven. The stove is only freestanding, since we will not remodel the kitchen, we already have it 6 m. Therefore, everything is already planned and stands forever. So only freestanding.

Will I really upset you if I say that you shouldn't buy Gorene? Well, I didn't want to write this, I didn't want to! Not so long ago she dissuaded her friend from Goreny, but she obeyed her husband. As a result, they have already repaired it twice and now she is not at all happy. I talked with the seller of refrigerators on Prazhskaya in El. Paradise, so he confirmed to me my fears about this brand, what remained of Goreny was a stereotypical opinion about this brand that has settled in us since Soviet times. Now the quality is as it gets. e. lottery. Sorry, I didn't mean to upset.
p / s / I have if something is Bosch. Satisfied. 5 years of cooking without breakdowns.

Anastasia, eh ... before the Boshi were correct, long-term, and now ..... too, which one you will run into. But about Whirlpool you need to think about it. Or do they only have everything separately? (Cooking and oven) Now I'll look on the site.

[Andreevna]

Andreevna Are Turks only made of non-magnetic metal? Or is there another problem?
You don't need to remodel the kitchen, just buy a separate cabinet and insert the stove and the hob there. If you use the stove a little, then you can not take the place of a large hob, but buy a two-burner. I have three burners, one of them is very large, convenient for large pans.

Anastasia, eh ... before the Boshi were correct, long-term, and now ..... too, which one you will run into. But about Whirlpool you need to think about it. Or do they only have everything separately? (Cooking and oven) Now I'll look on the site.

I am not advocating for Boshi. This is just for statistics, she cited her as an example. I totally agree. But only if the quality of the Bosches fell, then it fell even more for Goreny, and they fight the money - be healthy - still relying on the former authority of the brand.

Andreevna look at the ASKO CC9545 stove made in Finland, I don't know how it is now, but before the Finns made very high-quality equipment.

[tanya1962]

tanya1962
Tanyusha, looked, a good plate, but I need 60cm, and this one is 50cm.
Boo Boo
No, the fact is that induction on dishes less than 9-12 cm does not react, and my smaller turkeys will be in size.
Anastasia
I completely agree.
Oh, girls, my heart feels that I will stay with my ZVI with pancakes, but a good oven

And the Kaiser was not considered?

I am against the Kaiser. I have a washing machine and a dishwasher, I am not very happy with them.
I'm not sure about 12 cm. I can't check now, I've already climbed the whole apartment. I have the smallest ladle just 12 cm. I measured the diameter of the inner circle at the smallest burner - 9 cm.