Water heaters

it was time for prevention ... the hot water was turned off and I lit up with the question of buying a water heater ... live who has already solved this problem which one is better to take?

I solved this problem (at the time of prophylaxis) long ago. Once a year in the summer, at the end of July, we turn off hot water for a whole week - they change some big valves. or damper. at the city CHP. In my bathroom, in a wall cabinet with a mirrored door, there is an instantaneous water heater (the size of a loaf of bread) for 5.5 kW made in Israel. You can take a shower comfortably and comfortably. And in the kitchen, under the sink, there is another Siemens instantaneous water heater with a capacity of 5 kW. from it, the water is brought out to the tabletop through the faucet, like water filters. Therefore, in addition to the main kitchen mixer, I have two more identical taps. One feeds purified water through a filter, and hot water flows through the other immediately after switching on. Very convenient, of course. But the counter shakes well. And besides. requires competent power supply through a separate cable from the shield on the site. And of course, there are 25 and 16 ampere German machines.

does it plug in and out? How much does it shake? And how did you install? By yourself?

does it plug in and out? How much does it shake? And how did you install? By yourself?

Such things cannot be plugged into a regular outlet. If the dimensions of the apartment allow, install a storage water heater.

Such things cannot be plugged into a regular outlet. If the dimensions of the apartment allow, install a storage water heater.

needed for a month. I read that accumulative ones also come in different sizes.

I have had a 50 liter "thermex" heater for 9 years. I don’t know how I would have been without him, because in the summer we have no hot water at all, only during the heating season. Heats up somewhere for 2 hours. But for a family, 80-100 liter is better, but it heats up longer.
But you still need to look at the layout. I have a one-room apartment, so it goes to the bathroom and the kitchen. but you may not work out that way (if there are 3 rooms).

I have had a 50 liter "thermex" heater for 9 years. I don’t know how I would have been without him, because in the summer we have no hot water at all, only during the heating season. It is heated somewhere for 2 hours. But for a family, 80-100 liter is better, but it heats up longer.

and electricity shakes strongly?

[Jefry]

Jefry correctly writes, I have no sockets. In front of the water heater there is an automatic bag. All work must be done by a strictly qualified electrician. Hot water is not cheap. And in the case of a storage type water heater, much less energy is required, hot water is cheaper. You just need to take care of the reliable fastening of the tank to the wall, you can even make a welded structure for it. Happens. that due to the large weight and unimportant fastening on the wall, the tank can simply collapse and flood the neighbors. The installation must be correct.

and electricity shakes strongly?

There is little such a thing. But my reasoning is this: if there is hot water supply, then 2-3 cubic meters per person come out per month, that is, 20 - 30 UAH. for hot water (only heating, for cold water I pay separately). And if you ate. energy, then I will pay even less, because I use an average of 50 kW for heating, that is, less than 20 UAH. (you have rubles, then multiply by 4).
So, if there is a 3-room apartment, then you can put a storage tank on the bathroom, and a flow-through into the kitchen.

There is little such a thing. But my reasoning is this: if there is hot water supply, then 2-3 cubic meters per person are released per month, that is, 20 - 30 UAH.for hot water (only heating, for cold water I pay separately). And if you ate. energy, then I will pay even less, because I use an average of 50 kW for heating.

I will not say that it is not enough but acceptable. Thanks everyone for the advice. And then I bought a magazine here about these heaters and there is no one to explain the nuances.

And it's even more profitable to put a dishwasher in the kitchen. Washes 14 place settings with 12 liters of water.

I will not say that it is not enough but acceptable.

And compare it with an electric kettle, it seems to me that in the kitchen no appliance takes more of his email. energy. But what is good is that the heater works like a thermos and keeps warm for a long time.
And in spite of everything, I am very happy that I put it. After all, one month (like yours) can still be sustained, but all summer

And it's even more profitable to put a dishwasher in the kitchen. Washes 14 place settings with 12 liters of water.

dishwasher for 5 years

It is very good that there is a dishwasher! If space permits, then you can hang a storage-type tank and hot water will cost less, and if you cannot find a place for the tank, then the flow-through type.

I settled on a water storage. It remains to decide on the manufacturer or is it all the same what to take?

[mowgli]

mowgli, the largest thread for discussing water heaters is on the Sibmam forum, section "Home and Family", in it already look for the subsection "Repair and Interior", and on page 9 you find the topic "Water Heaters". The topic itself is extensive, 6 pages long. Go, you will definitely like it there. There everything is for repairs, like we have for baking bread.

[mowgli]

mowgli, the largest thread for discussing water heaters is on the Sibmam forum, section "Home and Family", in it already look for the subsection "Repair and Interior", and on page 9 you find the topic "Water Heaters". The topic itself is extensive, 6 pages long. Go, you will definitely like it there. There everything is for repairs, like we have for baking bread.

Thank you. Was there. But I was already advised more here than there. It's somehow more comfortable at home

We, for a family of three, have an 80L accumulative Electrolux. As for the savings. I made comparative calculations for two months - October and April. The cost is cold. Water + electricity and the cost of centralized mountains. Water - the difference is within 10-20 UAH upwards with a water heater. But the convenience and independence from unobtrusive utilities is worth it. We bought it from a company with an installation, bought a gearbox from them. It is advisable to have an outlet at the installation site so as not to pull the extension cords. After a year and a half of operation, the heating element was changed (well, we have such high-quality water). Works almost all year round. He warmed up once, and keeps the temperature. It can be set. If we leave for a long time, turn it off. My aunt has an ardo - and she has no complaints. But her water consumption is 2 cubic meters per month.

[for everyone]

I settled on a water storage. It remains to decide on the manufacturer or is it all the same what to take?

If you want storage, but simple and inexpensive, then I recommend Atmor. For 30 liters. It is produced (mine, at least) in Egypt under the patronage of the parent company from Israel. Not very branded, but not bad.

The electrical connection is best done through a separate circuit breaker, as well as for everyone heaters. Water can be fed into it even with a hose for a washing machine, but (pay attention) with half-inch fittings.

By the way. It is not necessary to position the heater above the tapping point. Although we usually have the bottom of the room is just busy with all kinds of household rubbish.

today was at our wholesale base. The Rostov heater of various types is on sale - flat, round and different in liters. But the most interesting thing is that I was told that no separate wiring is needed. They will also plug into a regular outlet, they said that it was the same as the washing machine ...

[Mowgli]

Mowgli, you have to look in the data sheet. what power in watts.My washing machine "eats" 2.5 kW, it has a separate grounding cable from a 16 amp automatic machine in the switchboard on the staircase. And in the apartment. in front of the washing machine is another 16 amp automatic machine. It all depends on the power consumption.

But the most interesting thing is that I was told that no separate wiring is needed. Will go to a regular outlet, too, they said that the same as the washing machine ...

I plug into a regular outlet, which is located in the corridor, and the boiler itself is in the bathroom, there is no outlet in the bathroom, just a long cord.
I turn it on only to heat the water, and then turn it off, save the money.

I plug into a regular outlet, which is located in the corridor, and the boiler itself is in the bathroom, there is no outlet in the bathroom, just a long cord.
I turn it on only to heat the water, and then turn it off, save the money.

we, too, will need water only in the evening. so I also want to turn it off immediately after use

I have a 50L Termeks storage water heater for 5 people, the wiring from it to the kitchen is quite enough. I am planning a renovation in the bathroom and I want to buy 30 liters to enter the box where the pipes pass. This year they shut down for only 1 week, there is a dishwasher, so we decided that 30 liters would be enough.

I have a 50L Termeks storage water heater for 5 people, the wiring from it to the kitchen is quite enough. I am planning a renovation in the bathroom and want to buy 30 liters to enter the box where the pipes pass. This year they shut down for only 1 week, there is a dishwasher, so we decided that 30 liters would be enough.

thanks for the advice. I will send this particular company and for 30 liters.

I also have Termeks at home, but 80 liters. It is enough for 5 people, and at the dacha in the kitchen for 30 liters. In my opinion, this is a small volume for an apartment. During the procurement period, I did not have enough of it to wash all the vegetables, fruits, berries, I had to wash it with cool water. But enough to wash your head.

I don’t know about your region, but in the Murmansk region, using a water heater is cheaper than paying for hot water from a supplier by about 2.5-3 times. And this is not taking into account the fact that you often have to drain just the water until it goes more or less bearable. And if you install a 2-3 tariff meter and warm it up for the night, then it's generally excellent. In order to wash in the bathroom, 80 liters of the tank are enough. The purchase itself pays off within a year. And one more thing - you do not depend on summer and not only hot water outages or too bad heating.

I do not know how in your region

4.53 rubles / kW with gas stove
and 3.15 with electric, in Moscow everything is cheap.
There was recently a peak tariff of 54 kopecks in the Irkutsk region, and it has become enviable.

Yes, in the Irkutsk region. very cheap. Hot water will then generally be cheap from the heater.
In Murmansk, it is also inexpensive - 1.64 with an electric stove. But we have it because there is "our own" Kola nuclear power plant nearby. The production itself is cheaper, a little is spent on delivery, and even the surplus is sold abroad to neighbors.

And we have only thermal power plants and hydroelectric power plants, one still from tsarist times on the Moscow river. And CHP electricity is more expensive than nuclear electricity. Including water heater only in summer, "on holidays", when there is no hot water. For 10 years there has been a flat horizontal termex for 50. For three people.
It has electronic control, which in fact causes a lot of inconvenience, you just can't turn on the power supply. It does not have a timer (there are probably new ones with timers already). I want to redo all this disgrace so that there would be hot water coming home from work.

[Friends]

Friends, please tell me which water heaters companies to pay attention to?

I aimed at the accumulative, that way for 50 liters ... I think it should be enough ...

It would also be nice to order with the installation ...

Maybe someone ordered recently, would be very grateful for the information where to get))...

[Crochet]

Crochet, I had a 50 l flat termex for a long time, I really liked it.In connection with the reconstruction, the baths were given to friends at the dacha, and it still works there.

I have 70 liters of ARISTON hanging in my bathroom - just the right amount of water for washing
The heater hangs a little - no complaints. But hot water at any time.

Here is another point: the heater must be constantly connected to the network when using it, and maintain a constant temperature in the "ready" mode, this is 60 * C (for me). And this increases the consumption of electricity and much !!! For a couple of weeks, it runs up enough and tangibly.
But, if you ask the question: pay and be with hot water - or save money and sit with the kettle hot - the heater definitely wins

We also have a flat termex for 80 liters.

and we have an electrolux for 50 liters, one is enough for me under the shower, and if I get a bath, then after me there is already cold water and the bathroom is not full of hot water
if I go after someone to swim, then I do not have enough to rinse my hair, already barely warm

[Girls]

ARISTON 70 liters - just the right amount of water for washing

For one ?!

This is how many liters do I need a water heater for 4 people ?!

Girls , thank you all very much !!!

And what would I do without you ...

I'm going to take a look at the Thermix ...

[Girls]

For one ?!

This is how many liters do I need a water heater for 4 people ?!

Girls , thank you all very much !!!

Well, one and a half By the end of the shower, the end of the water, it becomes completely warm. In any case, the water will have to be heated for the next washing (of a person) - if you wash with running water. Can't get a full bath
It's enough for everyone, if only the whole family has a quick and high-quality wash - yes.
The 70-liter tank is optimal - I already decided on my own. Even at the purchase stage, I also chose a 50-liter tank in the store - the sellers managed to dissuade me in time, they advised 70 liters - and they were right.
In principle, I have been satisfied with my system for several years.

Here is another point: the heater must be constantly connected to the network when using it, and maintain a constant temperature in the "ready" mode, this is 60 * C (for me). And this increases the consumption of electricity and much !!! For a couple of weeks, it runs up enough and tangibly.

Tanya, electricity consumption increases when compared with its absence.
In general, it is more economical to keep the tank constantly on. It is not necessary to warm up the walls of the tank every time you turn on the heating element. Less electricity is consumed.

Now I have a 15 liter tank (they removed it from the bathroom, put it in the toilet, where the tubes pass), it is enough to rinse for one person.

[Admin]

Admin, Tanechka, what is your model of Ariston?

[Crochet]

We bought for a long time and at that time it was the most compact and one was placed in our toilet. ... that's why they took 50 liters.
And if guests come ... then of course I have to wait until it warms up ... because after (if shower) the second person is already cold water

Added Saturday 07 May 2016 09:41 AM

Crochet, and the flow-through was not considered?
My friend is very happy with it. though they have all new wiring.

Added Saturday 07 May 2016 09:43 AM

Now I have a 15 liter tank (they removed it from the bathroom, put it in the toilet, where the tubes pass), it is enough to rinse for one person.

Yes? And in my kitchen it was 20 liters ... and I washed the dishes with cool water ... I'm not economical

and the flow was not considered?

Nope) ...

For some reason, everyone dissuades me from him ...

I'm afraid of flowing too, I don't trust them

Inna, you need to look at the model in your passport - if I find it, I'll take a photo, it's easier for me

This is how the heater hangs from the ceiling in the bathroom.



And here is the whole installation system, all the cog tubes. And on the left is a column with pipes to which the heater is connected. Inside the column there is also a whole system of installation-wiring of pipes, taps, valves that turn on and off when you need to connect the heater for operation (or turn it off).And of course, we had to reinforce the wiring, make a new line.



Ariston's model



The system is serious, and the whole installation was done by a professional plumber-electrician, I was busy all day, and in a corner I was quietly worried
I have installed a heater 3-4 years ago - the flight is normal.

And now it seems to me that I have a 50 liter model, judging by the label on the device - well, at least I have enough water.

[220 volt]

Thank you, Tanya !!!

I'm immensely grateful to you !!!

I really liked your water heater !!!

I, Wan, want the same !!!

It remains to find a proven online store with delivery ...

Girls, what can you say about the store 220 volt ? Has anyone ordered from them?

Took a photo - come back above

[Svetlana1333]

Svetlana1333, my dishes are washed by a dishwasher, and there is no water 10 days a year, so the large water heater was removed, and 15 is enough.

In our suburbs, you can expect any "charms" from light and water, sometimes they turn it off without warning. And the water can be turned off for preventive maintenance 2 times a year.Therefore, the storage heater helps me out a lot, in any case, it is free of water problems - unless everyone immediately turns off the gas, then the stove helps out, we put a kettle, a faithful and proven helper in these affairs

[Admin]

Admin, if we had the same, then a large water heater would remain in place, and so it makes no sense to keep a large one in the bathroom.

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha, I agree with you

[Svetlana1333]

Svetlana1333, my dishes are washed by a dishwasher, and there is no water 10 days a year, so the large water heater was removed, and 15 is enough.

I also have a dishwasher now and therefore they also removed the kitchen

Added Saturday 07 May 2016 12:17 pm

Adminwhat a cool .. compact