Autoclave

[Oktyabrinka]

Girls,Oktyabrinka, Tashechka58, solmazalla, my dears, thank you very much for responding. And they explained everything in such detail. The heart leans towards the electric stainless steel baby. Expensive though, but maybe you can hope that it will last for a long time? And the question, respectively, to Tashechka58, should it be pumped up with a pump to raise the pressure?

I have a Krasnodar one for 46 liters, 7 liter cans at a time. I like it very much, I thought for a long time which one to take, it takes a lot of time, we can't play more than one game in a day. And because of 3-4 cans, you don't want to mess around. I really like the stew. When I'm not there, dad came up with our new way of eating. Opens a can of beef, it is not greasy. Spreads them on bread and everyone is happy. So think about the size, you won't buy a few.

[Dana15]

Dana15, and you have it gaseous or e-ski, stainless steel or carbon?

Stainless steel, electric, never seen any pumps. The husband rolls up cans of raw meat, pours it in water and turns it on, then heats up for 40 minutes, honestly somehow didn't look at the clock, maybe more. Then he keeps the temperature and pressure, and then he begins to drain the water himself. Just substitute the buckets. You can't open it right away, otherwise the covers will rip out. Only when it gets cold. Bought in the spring. Stews all summer on the balcony, sunny side. Well worth it.

Sorry, I meant that the autoclave itself keeps the temperature. I have an electronic control unit. Like a slow cooker.

Oksana, if you have any questions, please write. I will answer with pleasure.

Dana15, why is it so slow for you or something else? I also have a Krasnodar autoclave, I bought another cassette and it takes 3.5-4 hours for two bookmarks, and if we close the screw caps, then we make 3-4 bookmarks. though we make stew in 700 ml cans, for us this volume is the most optimal.

We have a volume of 46 liters. There, in my opinion, only 40 minutes one program for meat. plus heating. As if I don't need the second bookmark, we do it all at once. There is only one cassette, it cools down in the cassette. Although I think the total program time should be the same.

And for mine, you first need to punish 1.5 atmospheres with a pump, and only then heat it on gas. Licked on electric, but EXPENSIVE, alas

Stainless steel, electric

Oh, probably how the Boeing wing stands

[panarino]

panarino

question, respectively, to Tashechka58, should it be pumped up with a pump to raise the pressure?

No pump is used, the device itself is gaining pressure, only you need to monitor the temperature and time. There is a book with a good description of the rules of work and recipes. I am not a young woman, I do an excellent job with it myself.
I regret that I did not make an order for electronic control to it, it would not have been necessary to control it at all (I think this is the only drawback). I never lift a cassette with cans for loading, first I put an empty one in the machine, then I install the cans and press it with a disk. Therefore, there is enough female strength.

[solmazalla]

7 liters of fresh warm milk, 1 kg of powdered milk, 5 kg of sugar. Grind sugar with milk powder, gradually adding warm milk. when sugar dissolves, pour into jars, roll up and autoclave for 45 minutes at 120 degrees. According to reviews, it turns out a thick brown condensed milk and is very tasty. (I haven't tried it myself, but this recipe actually finished off my decision to buy an autoclave)

solmazalla, Alla, thanks for sharing, I was very interested in the recipe. There is no autoclave, there is just an electric pressure cooker, so I think, can I try it? You can make 1 liter of milk. 0.5L low jars become.Interestingly, but necessarily in rolled up banks, maybe just in a vessel of some kind?

[annnushka27]

annnushka27, I think a pressure cooker can be done simply in twist-off jars (twist-off lids). Girls in these even made stew and also in a pressure cooker. The only thing is to put something on the bottom so that the jars do not crack and increase the time, since a pressure cooker clearly does not give such pressure as an autoclave.

[Alla]

Yes, Alla, thanks, I will try one of these days. I have little experience with cans, I prepared canned vegetables and fruit in a pressure cooker. I made baked milk, it was creamy, now we will try condensed milk.

[annnushka27]

annnushka27

now let's try condensed milk.

We are waiting for the report

Girls, let's upload your recipes here, proven. With a simple stew, everything is clear, but for the next harvesting season, all sorts of salads and vegetables and fruits would be very useful. It's a pity that he came to me late, the harvesting season has already ended. But there is time to prepare well for the next one. So share your experience, please!

and let's upload your recipes here, proven

If a certain number of members of the forum are interested, you can select a separate section for autoclaves and create separate recipes for it.

[Chef]

Chef, Oh, that would be just fine. And then I once did not even imagine HOW many delicious things you can cook in it! He thought only for meat. It's like a princess with a pizza maker. Our girls only think of a reason to give it so much!

[Chef]

Chef, it would be wonderful! I have had autoclaves for over 20 years, and there are also many recipes. There will be where to share.

If there is interest

There is! There is interest !!! A very useful section!

If there is interest

The interest is sooo great, but there is no autoKlava yet.

that would be just fine

it would be wonderful

There is interest

The interest is sooo great

Done
Hopefully section will not be empty for long

Kubanochka, honey, give your favorite recipes! You are the most experienced with us. And today I make beets in two versions. I'll post it tomorrow ...

[solmazalla]

7 liters of fresh warm milk, 1 kg of powdered milk, 5 kg of sugar. Grind sugar with milk powder, gradually adding warm milk. when sugar dissolves, pour into jars, roll up and autoclave for 45 minutes at 120 degrees. According to reviews, it turns out a thick brown condensed milk and is very tasty. (I haven't tried it myself, but this recipe actually finished off my decision to buy an autoclave)

solmazallaand not worth trying! The water should evaporate from the milk. This will not happen with the described technology. I still decided to test it in the pressure cooker. The proportions were reduced by 10 times. The milk has turned into a light brown substance + a lot of liquid. In a word, the result But if you cook it on a steam bath (to avoid burning) in an open container, then the result will be excellent. I liked the composition and proportions of the components. I will repeat it on occasion, but without a pressure cooker.

[nika-nik @]

nika-nik @, And the proportions are 10 times reduced in which jar were removed by volume? I'll just make beets with carrots and, purely for the experiment, would put one jar in there. You upset me. Maybe the whole trick is in the high pressure of the autoclave and much less in the pressure cooker? And then I hoped to make a porcai and lower the jars into the cellar, and get them out as needed And thanks for the warning, otherwise it would be a pity to transfer the products to a full portion

[Alla]

I also tried to make condensed milk yesterday. I read the message nika-nik @ when the jars were already in the pressure cooker, or maybe I wouldn't.
The proportions were reduced by 14 times, that is, by 0.5 liters. milk. It turned out 2 incomplete 400-gram jars. First I put it on for 80 minutes, when I took it out, the milk became creamy and liquid. I put it on for another 60 minutes, the milk became light brown, in consistency, like jelly, or thick fermented baked milk. But very tasty !!! My children will eat with pancakes.You can make creme brulee ice cream or cake cream on the basis of such milk. If the children like it, I will do more.
I opened one jar, and the second one is closed. I think he can boil it open in the microwave for about 5 minutes so that the liquid evaporates. I will probably put the second closed one in the pressure cooker for 60 minutes for the sake of the experiment.
In general,Alla, thanks for the recipe !!!

[solmazalla]

solmazalla, oops .. Thom missed the message. Since there was a package of 150 g of powdered milk, I took 1050 ml of milk, 750 g of sugar. As a result, we got 4 cans of the substance, 0.5 each (poured over the shoulders). As for the pressure - I will not say anything, but in 2 years I processed more than 100 kg of meat into stew. The result is great! I will still experiment with condensed milk, but I will try to steam it in a cartoon at 60-70 degrees, then sterilize and cook in a pressure cooker.

Tell me, please, is it possible to quickly make a plum compote in an autoclave? Well, just fill the drain in the jars, pour water from the tap and into the autoclave?

[Asya Klyachina]

Asya Klyachina, you can by adding sugar and lemon there (for preservation). It is necessary to bring to 100 * and turn off the autoclave, then take out the cans according to the technology of your autoclave. This is how I make any compote.

[Asya Klyachina]

Asya Klyachina, I put the plum in jars and fill it with syrup, and also turn it off at 100-105 degrees. Pears, plums in syrup and raspberries are very tasty. I never added citric acid. Only sugar and water)

[or]

Hello everyone !!!
found this topic and was very happy
accept me, a novice autoclave operator, into your ranks.
bought a little more than a week of Belarusian-made AK for 18 liters, tried once to make canned fish and immediately a question arose, on which not a single stew manufacturer and producer drew attention to.
Logically, in this AK, according to the instructions, you can put 7 half liter cans or 5 liter. So they closed 7 jars of fish, began to pour water, and jars began to pop up as they please ... The throat of the AK is small, it is impossible to put oppression on all the cans, and they are very naughty in the water.
If anyone has a similar AK, please advise how you deal with this.
Another point that I did not take into account
I thought that I could handle the weight of the AK myself, but in fact it's hard to lift

[space]

space, I won't say anything about the autoclave, I have a Krasnodar one with an upper disk for pressing cans, but I never lift an autoclave with cans. First, I install it in the right place, and only then I load the prepared banks into it. If this is too high for you, you can use a chair or, like mine, a short ladder with a comfortable platform at the top to become your legs.

[Asya Klyachina]

Asya Klyachina, I put the plum in jars and fill it with syrup, and also turn it off at 100-105 degrees. Pears, plums in syrup and raspberries are very tasty. I have never added citric acid. Only sugar and water)

Girls, can you have a cherry with a stone? We also bought an autoclave but haven't tried it yet.

[lou]

lou, why not? We always make compotes and jam with a bone

First, I install it in the right place, and only then I load the prepared banks into it.

I also thought to do this, but the pump, which builds up pressure, turned out to have a short hose, so I had to lift it full, though I didn’t raise it myself, but for myself, as I noted as a minus.
I don't know if there are other pumps

with top disc for pressing cans

in Belarusian it is not
girls, shake it off, my shoals when you buy yourself an AK

[Zhannptica]

Zhannptica, Tashechka58, thank you very much, I just became obsessed with the autoclave lately, so I want to ease all these worries with autumn preparations when fruits and berries are piled up.

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girls, shake it off, my shoals when you buy yourself an AK

space nd ..., swim, you say? But these autoclaves are so cheap - 5 thousand with delivery together.I, too, seemed to be going to buy a Belarusian one for 24 liters, although I don’t know, in the video after use they become so terrible, everything is shabby and rusty, although this does not affect the functionality. And what is still more convenient, with pumping out autoclaves or those where cans are clamped into cassettes and the air does not need to be pumped out?

[Asya Klyachina]

Asya Klyachina, I have a 46-liter autoclave Krasnodar simple iron (for five years nothing has rusted), and I only clamp cans with simple lids in cassettes, now I switched to cans with twist-off lids, there are no problems at all, you don't need to clamp with such lids ...

[Asya Klyachina]

Asya Klyachina, I have a 46-liter autoclave Krasnodar simple iron (for five years nothing has rusted), and I only clamp cans with simple lids in cassettes, now I switched to cans with twist-off lids, there are no problems at all, you don't need to clamp with such lids ...

I agree that the Krasnodar autoclave is more expensive, but it is perfectly finished, no pumps, a safety valve is immediately installed, there is a cassette with a clamping disk (for those who wish). I have it for the second year and did not regret the money spent. I read forums where people are tormented with pumps and pressure measurements, and I am glad that all this does not concern me

nd ..., swim, you say?

did it only once, with fish. Maybe the crucian carp is too light?

But these autoclaves are so cheap - 5 thousand with delivery together.

we bought for 5.5 thousand at a dacha in the Ryazan region, there was no other choice
if in Moscow, then I would definitely take another one. If girls praise Krasnodar, take it, because convenient service is expensive !!!

in the video, after use, they become so scary, everything is shabby and rusty

I think it will be so

, now switched to cans with twist-off lids, no problems at all

during our first run of AK, the twists were all normal, and one simple one for seaming was blown up (((
you need to get used to releasing the pressure very "gently", I understood

I read forums where people are tormented with pumps and pressure measurements, and I am glad that all this does not concern me

did not understand about the pressure, do not control the process at all?
could throw off their brand, look in the internet. I only saw one Krasnodar "red" and it is definitely not 46 liters, but much less.
Is it electric or gas?

[space]

space, on the second page of this topic, the Chief posted two videos, I have one like the first one, electric (we have electric stoves in our house)

[Tashechka58]

Tashechka58 now I realized that they are from different "operas"
I will try to adapt to my own, and then I will decide what to do, but we have main gas at our dacha and, of course, the gas option is more convenient for us.
Thank you very much for your attention and advice.

[lou]

I have the simplest Krasnodar, also for 7 cans. I pour water 2 cm above the cans. Nobody has come up yet)) I deliberately took it so that I could cope with it myself. And most importantly, he is with me everywhere. And in Karelia for mushrooms, berries and in Astrakhan, the silver carp rolls up. We have a mobile kitchen in the form of a tent, a two-burner stove and a gas balloon. So we are already bringing the fish in the banks from fishing. Even in the form of fish balls in a tomato

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As for the inner paint, it seems to me that it immediately peeled off. But this does not affect the process and, most importantly, the taste.

Added Thursday, 02 Jun 2016, 20:10

lou, Natalia, a plum with a bone was closed. Everything's Alright

And most importantly, he is with me everywhere. And in Karelia for mushrooms, berries and in Astrakhan, the silver carp rolls up. We have a mobile kitchen in the form of a tent, a two-burner stove and a gas balloon. So we are already bringing the fish in the banks from fishing. Even in the form of fish balls in a tomato

I envy

I have the simplest Krasnodar, also for 7 cans

and this AK must first pump the pressure with a pump?

I pour water 2 cm above the cans.

cool
and in Belarusian the minus is that no matter what banks they put, you need to pour a lot of water so that the distance from the surface of the water to the lid of the AK is 8 cm, which is why it is heavy: girl_sad: Who would have thought? (((((( (((((((((((

We have a mobile kitchen in the form of a tent, a two-burner stove and a gas balloon. So we are already bringing the fish in the banks from fishing. Even in the form of fish balls in a tomato

Zhanna, and yours as in the second video on 2 pages?

[lydia]

lydia, the pressure must be created one and a half atmosphere. I'll watch the video tomorrow and answer)))

Added Saturday 04 Jun 2016 09:07 PM

lydia, look at the recipe "pike in tomato", there you can clearly see the autoclave or on the farmer's website. RU
I have a gray one with a red cap (smart)

pressure must be created one and a half atmosphere.

this moment is practically missed in all videos, or rather they do not show that it is necessary to create 1.5 atm with a pump. Our pump is uncomfortable (you can only pump it on the floor, because there is a short connecting hose), and my husband freaks out and says that they are all like that.
If I knew that I needed to lift the loaded one, I would definitely refrain from buying.
Zhanna, and your gray, smart one is very appealing to me, I will "attach" mine and buy a smart one next summer

I pour water 2 cm above the cans.

this is the key moment for me now !!!!
I won't bother you with questions anymore, Zhannochka, thanks for everything

Hello, we are going to buy an autoclave home cellar 2 in 1 for 22 liters, can anyone have one, tell me about it? Moreover, they are interested in twist lids how to use them in an autoclave, I looked at a lot of topics they write that they are often ripped off. It is precisely what interests them whether it is necessary to warm them up and whether they should be twisted to the end or not?

Hello, we are going to buy an autoclave home cellar 2 in 1 for 22 liters, can anyone have one, tell me about it? Moreover, they are interested in twist lids how to use them in an autoclave, I looked at a lot of topics they write that they are often ripped off. It is exactly what interests them whether it is necessary to warm them up and whether they should be twisted to the end or not?

I will not say about the autoclave - I have an electric autoclave for 46 liters, the manufacturer Sormat, but such lids have never been torn off, fill the cans 2 cm before reaching the top and tighten thoroughly - these are canned meat, I just don’t sterilize my cans and lids, the main thing these covers are reusable and do not need to be clamped into a cassette

[Cky4Ho]

Cky4Ho, it is absolutely not necessary to heat the lids and they must be tightened to the end. But when you take out the jars, the lids will need to be twisted a little, for some reason, for any reason, they will twist a little

Added on Tuesday 21 Jun 2016 06:43 PM

Today I made two parties - chicken and rabbit

[Jeanne]

Jeanne, the name day of the heart is simply, and not the pictures, tempting. :-)