ol8494
So I was looking, I was looking on the site ... It seems there is nothing like that. Maybe someone cares about it? Or has someone already managed to do something or wants to? If I have handy like-minded people and home craftsmen, pliz, write what you have done, improved, corrected in your home assistants. I suppose that if anyone is interested in this tama, then the conversation will go about the Chinese people.
Well, since "I am the first king" (c), then I should start. So! I have 2 devices. Binaton 1068 and Orion 205. Naturally climbed into both ... First impressions. Both were born in the same barn. It is a fact! Inside as 2 twin sisters! Everything is perfect (well, almost) the same! And chips and motors and in general the approach and technology head to head. Each has advantages and disadvantages.
What is done.
At Binaton, a radiator made of 70/25/1 mm aluminum plate is installed on the motor control triac (changed). Otherwise, the triac is confidently covered with a copper basin after 3-5 pastries. Now super! Further. On the front panel I inserted a switch with neon illumination. Very comfortably. No need to unplug it! Especially if the stove is permanently installed, and the outlet is far or low. And the luminous switch reminds that the car is turned on. Next to the display, I stuck a red LED in parallel with the heating element. Now it's interesting to watch how the heating and baking is going on!
What do I want.
Stick in the second heating element, higher than the main one, so that the hat would be baked better. Ideally slightly stronger than the sides. While on the contrary. The heating element relay allows it. Measure the temperature graph when baking. (Run the temperature sensor inside and observe) I wonder how the temperature changes and what is the maximum.
Orion. Everything is done better in this device, but the space in the technical compartment is noticeably smaller and hotter! I put mineral wool thermal insulation from an old Soviet oven between the oven and the control unit (inside the case). Drilled additional holes for ventilation of the block. The engine and block are noticeably cooler. Tightly crimped stainless steel cladding.
It seems that there are no complaints about the stove, but the second heating element would also be very relevant. I think about it. Alternatively, you can try to raise the existing one by 3-5cm. But here is only a scientific poke method ...
By the way! Everywhere they write that Orion is made of stainless steel! Don't believe it! The same plastic! This is just a tin decoration and does not bear any functional load!
Well ... For now. So if anyone what where and how, write! Interesting! Delicious bread for you and that you had everything and you didn't get anything for it!
Alim
Flag to you and hands, ol8494 Impressed by your idea
"I inserted a switch with a backlit neon on the front panel. It is very convenient. No need to pull it out of the socket! Especially if the stove is permanently installed, and the socket is far or low. And the luminous switch reminds that the machine is turned on. Near the display, a red LED stuck in parallel with TENOM. Now it's interesting to watch how the heating and baking are going on! "
And :
"I drilled additional holes for ventilation of the block. The motor and block became noticeably cooler. Crimped tightly."
: wow: Such changes would be useful to me. Let me express my admiration for you
As for the second shadow: can sheath the lid with foil from the inside (at least for a start), maybe this will be enough? (In my stove with one tenom, the top bakes beautifully). Business, of course, is the master's.
Success in the future and share your achievements with us
saannai
Well, that's tuning for x. the item arrived in time, in a word, a hammer, keep it up, I would have posted some pictures, I think the people will be interested.
Ideas are always needed, otherwise we are all arguing which brand is the best, but a person took and improved his favorite ...
It's time for all of us to think .........
ol8494
Quote: Alim

...In my stove with one tenom, the top bakes beautifully ...

I have the same thing, but the sides are slightly darker than the cap, but I want it the other way around! I'll think about the foil, but the lid is already lined from the inside with quite decent aluminum ...

Quote: Alim
I wish you success in the future and share your achievements with us.

Mutually! I will definitely!
ol8494
Quote: Summer resident

Crazy hands smoke nervously on the balcony

No balcony! I live in the private sector! So there is no time to smoke!
Shl. Too bad there is no button on the forum "multicitation"
Or I didn't find it?
Rem
Why did you light the switch, but forgot the lighting inside? There are such Western options!
ol8494
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Why did you light the switch, but forgot the lighting inside? There are such Western options!

Did not forget! It's just that mine has such a window that the backlight seems to be useless. And the switch was backlit! These are put in extension cords. For 2 groups of contacts. The switch was needed! The manufacturer didn't bother to deliver! And I put the one that was, from a torn extension cord! And he pulled it apart because it was 3 meters long, and I had 2.5 to the outlet ... So I used a switch and a wire with a plug for the stove, and a block for aquas. Installed directly into the nightstand! Like this!
Rem
In my window 110 * 55 mm, but I will do the backlight. And maybe I'll close the window so that the roof of the bread is fried.
Are you an electrician or a radio specialty?
ol8494
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In my window 110 * 55 mm, but I will do the backlight. And maybe I'll close the window so that the roof of the bread is fried.

And then the point is in the backlight, if you close the window? IMHO it is necessary to highlight what would be seen without lifting the lid. Or I'm wrong?

Quote: Rem
Are you an electrician or a radio specialty?

And then, and then, and much more! And a bricklayer, and a painter, and a minder, and a carpenter-carpenter, and a welder, and a driver, and I collect computers, and ... oops ... shoto I was lazy ... In short, what can I do! Well, I got carried away with bread ...
Suslya
And my Kenya has a window and it does not affect the color of the crust in any way, it turns out excellent. But if you throw flour more than 400 gr. so it begins to knock, horror, already scary for her.
ol8494
Quote: Suslya

And my Kenya has a window and it does not affect the color of the crust in any way, it turns out excellent. But if you throw flour more than 400 gr. so it begins to knock, horror, already scary for her.

So the window does not affect the color ... The location of the heating element affects. (IMHO)
What is your model's maximum baking? I only bake on my own small ones. 900 and 750gr respectively. On the big ones, mine is tapping. Especially in French. On the basis, the dough is slightly softer and they cope with large baked goods normally and almost without knocking.

Found. Do you have a KENWOOD BM-350? So there is up to 1 kg. Should not knock. Try wiggling the inserted blank form. If it is tight, then either the blade or the drive. (which is unlikely) And if the form is not tight and wiggles, then the seal under the form or the lock. I didn't communicate with her, I won't say more precisely, but the mechanics of the stoves are very similar. What are the Chinese, what are the brands. Any normal locksmith will figure it out! Chessword!
Suslya
Yes, there is an opinion on the forum that the top of the bread does not blush from behind the window and therefore people close it with a falga. So I am writing, there is a window, but the crust is ruddy.
And my bucket does not dangle, it sits tightly, but somehow during kneading, when it rattled hard, I pressed it down, pressed it down, it stopped knocking, let it go all over again, and another time I did the same, did not help, like a bucket thundered filthy.
Pakat
On some bread makers, heat loss is due to poor thermal insulation of the window, ideally, the window should be of a porthole type, excluding heat loss. At my place, I completely closed the window, first with foil, and then with a piece of food grade stainless steel.
It was possible to make a porthole by placing a second glass, but there was no desire to mess around, no materials for this ...
ol8494
Quote: Suslya

And my bucket does not dangle, it sits tightly, but somehow during kneading, when it rattled hard, I pressed it down, pressed it down, it stopped knocking, let it go all over again, and another time I did the same, did not help, like a bucket thundered filthy.

So somewhere there is a backlash. And not weak! Strain one of the techie men, let him take a look!
Options:
1. The O-ring on the mold support is worn out. Treatment: cut and place a ring UNDER the same, but made of paronite (thick cardboard is possible, but worse), with a thickness of 0.5 to 1 mm. Adjust the thickness locally. The form should be fixed tightly but softly. Tomorrow I'll take a picture at home, I'll post it so that it's clear what I mean. + 50-80% of the spent will still serve. If not marriage, of course! But is there a marriage in Ken?
2. The bushing in the mold is worn out. Treatment: smart turner. Grind and replace the bronze-graphite bearing bush. Or a new form. + 100% operating time.
3. The blade is worn out. (Seat) Treatment: Together with replacing the bushing, grind out a new blade shaft with an increased (for a worn blade) diameter. + 90% operating time.
Well, that's it, offhand ...
ol8494
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... At home, I completely closed the window, first with foil, and then with a piece of food grade stainless steel ...

So how's the effect? Got better?
Pakat
ol8494, Oleg helped ...
Here's a thread about it: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3980.0
ol8494
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ol8494, Oleg helped ...
Here's a thread about it: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3980.0

Earnestly! I will try to experiment with stainless steel. There is just a suitable piece. Only opening during the approach or at the beginning of baking is dumb. But okay! We'll see!
Pakat
ol8494, Oleg, you can open it during kneading and approach to view the bun and control the rise of the dough. But, after the start of baking, it is not recommended. In Piglet, there is no window at all, but the pastries
good ...
ol8494
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ol8494, Oleg, you can open it during kneading and approach to view the bun and control the rise of the dough. But, after the start of baking, it is not recommended. In Piglet, there is no window at all, but the pastries
good ...

I don't have enough bunches for the Piglet. The stove is cool, I read it, but very expensive. So I will "tune" the Chinese chat ... And then we'll see. So far there is nothing to scold them for. They work for "yat"!
Rem
Oleg, you are in a hurry with advice. For example, with a bucket shape. The fact is that the fastening of the bucket in x / n is different. From this, it is better to give advice on a specific stove. In the delonghi 125, the fasteners are simple and dead. But the roof is white.
Now about the lighting inside - without turning on the light in the room, it is convenient to see how the process is going - up to the start of baking, you can without harm. Here.
ol8494
Quote: Rem

Oleg, you are in a hurry with advice. For example, with a bucket shape. The fact is that the fastening of the bucket in x / n is different. From this, it is better to give advice on a specific stove. In the delonghi 125, the fasteners are simple and dead. But the roof is white.
Now about the lighting inside - without turning on the light in the room, it is convenient to see how the process is going - up to the start of baking, you can without harm. Here.

Yes ... I agree ... Sorry ... About the backlighting the same ... I bake during the day, but somehow I didn't think about the evening ... You hurry up, you will make people laugh ... ceramic cartridge. And the wire is in PTFE + in fiberglass. That would not melt. A light bulb will be enough for 5 watts. And power it from 6-12 volts. (need to think) 220 is risky, and the small one is hard to find ... What do you think?
Rem
The voltage itself is 6-12v. And here's how to do it, it's better not to think about messing with a Western analogue. The forum seems to have someone. There are also far abroad countries here.
Pakat
ol8494, Oleg, in my bread maker, the backlight is arranged like this:
In front, in the upper right corner of the inner panel, a window is cut out, 20x30 mm, taken away by glass, the light bulb is located between the inner and outer panels of the stove. At the bottom of the window, the screw for fastening the glass and the cartridge.
The power and voltage of the light bulb are unknown, on occasion I will analyze, I will measure, but obviously not 110, our volts ...
Nearby, on the upper end of the case, the microswitch pin is turned off when pressed with a hinged cover. Cover open, light on, closed off. The microswitch itself, mounted under the upper end of the case, between the inner and outer panels of the stove, is fastened with two screws. By the way, the low voltage can be removed from the power supply unit of the bread machine, because it is necessary for the electronics to work ...
ol8494
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ol8494, Oleg, in my bread maker, the backlight is arranged like this:
In front, in the upper right corner of the inner panel, a window is cut out, 20x30 mm, taken away by glass, the light bulb is located between the inner and outer panels of the stove. At the bottom of the window, the screw for fastening the glass and the cartridge.
The power and voltage of the light bulb are unknown, on occasion I will analyze, I will measure, but obviously not 110, our volts ...
Nearby, on the upper end of the case, the microswitch pin is turned off when pressed with a hinged cover. Cover open, light on, closed off. The microswitch itself, mounted under the upper end of the case, between the inner and outer panels of the stove, is fastened with two screws. By the way, the low voltage can be removed from the power supply unit of the bread machine, because it is necessary for the electronics to work ...

Val! Senks for the description! Now you don't need to search! Cleverly bourgeois did! I will consider! But I will not risk taking power from the stove's power supply. The Chinese put a painfully dead trance on it ... And an incandescent lamp even at 3W at 9 volts will gobble up 350mA. The trance will not last. I'll pick up a more powerful one. Thank God, I have a lot of this stuff lying around, and even a place for a trance in the stove, even a horse! I will tinker! But while both are working! Charged! Yes, and I do not walk! I invent a shelf in the hallway ... That's the way it is. How to do something, accomplish your goal! Good luck everyone!
ol8494
As I have promised! Here's some variety! I fiddled with the molds and I got these loaves!
Bake in the oven. What do you think?

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Home kulibins or tuning bread makers.
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Home kulibins or tuning bread makers.
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Home kulibins or tuning bread makers.
Summer resident
But loaves are good. And where can I get such a master?
ol8494
What kind of skill is there ... So, in the form of entertainment. (edible)
Such molds can be made by the hostess in the country in 15 minutes.
The truth is one "but". You need to have good tailor scissors
(or ideally for metal) and a piece of any of the thinnest tin.
If anyone is interested, I will write in detail how and what.
Although, IMHO, everything is clear from the figure.
The dough is like for milk bread, but steeper and the second batch is already by hand
(stopped the stove), then sausages and come up for an hour or twenty
right in the oven (naturally off). Pok 20min / 100grad,
then 40 minutes at 150. Well, somewhere like that ...
Good luck to all!
Pakat
Home kulibins or tuning bread makers.

18 "long, 2-3-4 diameter per loaf.
No sharp edges or seams.
Heavy gauge, professional quality tinplate.
After use, wash in warm soapy water, rinse, wipe dry and place in a warm oven for a few minutes to fully dry.
Abrasive cleaners and pads will scratch the surface.

5 kaksov all the fun ...
Pakat
Suslya , look at this topic - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=9131.975 there is about forms, and Kiev is closer than Toronto ...

In the meantime, the need for invention is cunning ...
Home kulibins or tuning bread makers.
ol8494
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Home kulibins or tuning bread makers.
5 kaksov all the fun ...

Packat! Have you forgotten that many are not in Canada, have you?
I didn't find anything like that here ... Although I walked around the largest bazaar in Europe. Only full guano ...
So I did it myself. From the most stagnant USSR food grade aluminum.
Do, pliz, we have a big discount on a territorial basis!
Good luck for this!
Suslya
Pakat, but I liked this idea of ​​"goli", this is, as I understand it, foil and paper for baking?
Pakat
ol8494, so this one is purely concrete, for current information ...
Suslya
I went where you sent, I looked, exactly, foil and paper. Thank you boom do so
ol8494
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ol8494, so this one is purely concrete, for current information ...

Without a bazaar? A century of will not see?
Mishmash
The power surge broke the bread machine (Elenberg)
It's forever? Or someone at home coped with this trouble.
Help.
Rem
Look for radio engineering. If the microprocessor is intact (and it must still survive), then if there are other parts on the market (or analogues), it will. In theory, a breakdown in the power unit, maybe not a terrible thing.
Go for it!
Pakat
Mishmash, most importantly, don't panic ...
If, from the inside, it does not smell burnt, unplug it from the network and let it stand for a day, others, it happens after such a rest, start working again ...
But if it burns out, you need an experienced electronics engineer, as Rem advised,
he has to deal with the power supply, they burn first,
or carry to service. And after repairs, be sure to buy a voltage regulator of the appropriate power and turn it on only through it, since such voltage surges.
prascovia
HELLO EVERYONE! While waiting for the baguette holders, I use 2 cola cans cut along the length, lined with pastry paper, enough for a couple of times.
Viki
Quote: ol8494

..... The bushing in the mold is worn out. Treatment: smart turner. Grind and replace the bronze-graphite bearing bush. Or a new form. + 100% operating time.
Bronze-graphite ??? My plastic is worn out. Of course, even an intelligent turner won't grind anything out of plastic, he just won't find any sense in this undertaking.
While looking for a turner, I wrapped so many turns of foil around the shaft so that it was enough to tightly insert the shaft. The leak has stopped.
Admin

And here's another option for baguette loaves Home kulibins or tuning bread makers.

Pakat
Quote: Viki

Bronze-graphite ??? My plastic is worn out. Of course, even an intelligent turner won't grind anything out of plastic, he just won't find any sense in this undertaking.
While looking for a turner, I wrapped so many turns of foil around the shaft so that it was enough to tightly insert the shaft. The leak has ceased.
Viki, it is better to use not foil, but graphite packing for oil seals, in the form of twine. You can do it yourself, coat the cloth twine with a mixture of heat-resistant, or ordinary grease and graphite. Graphite can be grated with soft pencil leads.
The packing is tightly wrapped around the shaft, pre-pressed and closed with a cover. Take a photo, or draw the design of the oil seal, it will be easier to advise ...
Viki
Pakat, Thank you!
It was important for me not to flow today. Foil did it. Tomorrow I'll visit the service center. If I'm not lucky, then I'll take a picture of my "trouble" and think about it.
ol8494
Quote: Viki

Bronze-graphite ??? My plastic is worn out. Of course, even an intelligent turner won't grind anything out of plastic, he just won't find any sense in this undertaking.
While looking for a turner, I wrapped so many turns of foil around the shaft so that it was enough to tightly insert the shaft. The leak has stopped.

This plastic is called fluoroplastic. And the turner will wonderfully carve it out of it. And plastic is not very scarce.
Viki
Quote: ol8494

This plastic is called fluoroplastic. And the turner will wonderfully carve it out of it. And plastic is not very scarce.
Thank ol8494 And so it all happened. The service centers sent me .... in general, they just cut me off. I turned to a turner. He disassembled the bucket, carved a fluoroplastic sleeve. He said to wait a couple more minutes and turned a new shaft. But that's not all! Said: "What money? Bread is sacred! Bake and eat to your health!"
ol8494
Quote: Viki

Thank ol8494 And so it all happened. The service centers sent me .... in general, they just cut me off. I turned to a turner. He disassembled the bucket, carved a fluoroplastic sleeve. He said to wait a couple more minutes and carved a new shaft. But that's not all! Said: "What money? Bread is sacred! Bake and eat to your health!"

I am very glad that I could help you! Good luck and good bread! Turner roll!

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