Convection oven or mini oven?

AG about 800 watts. I just mean that for some people even a few watts are important when choosing a device)). I don’t remember how many bread makers.
But in general, I have a bewitching sight at night - the lights are on, the water is rustling, the smells are different. alarm sounds !! It's good that the first floor and the corner apartment, otherwise the neighbors would probably complain ..

Well, the bread is normal (a brick 700gr) in 20 minutes you won't bake it, but you will fry it ... Ciabatta is baked in the airfryer for 15 minutes.
And if you save electricity / energy, then you just need to switch to a healthy diet without heat treatment.
In general, the airfryer bakes and fries and cooks, but all without oil in its fat. And if you don't need fat at all, then a grate is placed and all the fats are simply merged. Everything turns out delicious and dietary.

we are not talking about ordinary, but about mini. It heats up to 200 grams in 2-3 minutes and bread in it for 20 minutes. can be sintered like this per hour my oven takes an average of one kilowatt, which means that for such a loaf - less than half a kilowatt, so compare those who have AG. I do not have.

I bake bread in AG with sourdough and steam. You can't bake normal bread in 20 minutes. I pour water into the bottom of the flask. I put bread in the form on the wire rack. Time 35-40 minutes. 235 hail. I spray the crust from time to time. Then I lower it to 205 and bake it.
This is sourdough bread in the country. Bread is a miracle !!!

And you can't bake quickly in the oven.
But the conversation is not about bread, but about the fact that having bought an airfryer, we give up the stove and oven, which take up a lot of space in the kitchen. The airfryer can be put anywhere, and it only takes up the volume of the flask. The husband is ready to take him with him to the dacha - he cannot imagine cooking without him. Tiles, ovens have already been thrown away.

Yes, we actually deviated from the topic. We need both. This is by and large ... Based on my experience ... In AG, super fried and grilled. Braising in the oven. I made meat in AG under foil and added some water, but I didn't like it. In the oven, it is still baked better or something ... and it is not necessary to turn it over. But I really like all sorts of chickens-mura-kebabs-kupaty-lyulya-fish-smokers in AG. I have a grill in the oven but never used it.
I have never tried to bake dough stuff in AG. I made only cottage cheese casserole, but I had to turn it over again. And turn from shape to the same shape, and even with wavy edges,
and even getting into these waves is where the skill is!))))
I really love my AG! and I am very glad that I have it, but if they put me in a rigid framework and forced me to make a choice, I would still choose the oven.
But I certainly won't give my bread maker to anyone !!!!

Both are needed. This is by and large ... Based on my experience ...

So I think so. To be honest, personally baking in AG did not inspire me at all ... I like it more in the oven. But to grill meat, fish there, even casseroles - it turns out well in AG. Meat in AG is much tastier and more beautiful.

And I just have meat inside like uncooked, and overdried on top
happened . And I kept it for a long time and covered it with foil ... and tried different speeds, but alas ...

having bought an airfryer, we give up the stove and oven, which take up a lot of space in the kitchen. The airfryer can be put anywhere, and it only takes up the volume of the flask.

and having bought an oven, we abandon the stove and the airfryer and the mini-oven, by the way, takes up space in the kitchen even sometimes less than the AG. And you still have to try to bang it.
: Dkaroche, not a topic, but one misunderstanding, that everything is necessary!

And all at once. !!!

yeah, you want everything at once, but you get nothing and gradually

: spiteful: someone's nothing? very much even what !! on my birthday I received HP from my husband, and AG from my daughter

Hello everybody! If the topic is still relevant. In order not to spoil the wallpaper, you can glue the walls around the kitchen wall with self-adhesive film. Not expensive, beautiful, functional! And you can always wash!

If you have a good oven with a grill or an oven and a microwave oven with a grill - you don't need an airfryer!
And on the topic of the topic - a mini-oven is more convenient than an electric grill ...
A mini-oven and a slow cooker are even better !!!

If there is neither one nor the other, what to buy? I will describe my requirements and questions in order.
I need to:
1) I could make muffins / pizza / casseroles in my glass molds (20x20cm, 35x25cm, 32x32cm, mold height up to 15cm).
2) pies and large pies with jam, biscuits with apples were baked as well as in a regular gas oven, with the formation of a golden crisp crust.

Questions:
3) is it possible to fry cutlets in the AG?
4) if the AG has a non-removable lid, then where is it attached, that is, is it possible to remove its bowl from the stand and wash it?
5) which heating element to choose from AG? Heating element, lamp or something else, what's the difference?
6) if you buy an oven, should you choose the one that has pancakes-heaters on the "roof"? Or it will be high for the pan, since I plan to put the mini-oven on the table.
A bunch of questions, I am intensively studying the forum ... Now the slow cooker is puffing out for everything, but it cannot go on like this.

[Wasp!]

If there is neither one nor the other, what to buy? I will describe my requirements and questions in order.
I need to:

Wasp! a counter question - do you have any gas at all? or just want to expand your capabilities with electric appliances? And the second question - is the quantity of baked goods important to you? how much do you want to get at the output?

while you write, and I'll think about what other unit we will compose an ode to

There is no gas vaapche. After moving to the suburbs, I suffer myself for six months and torment the multicooker. Now I could not stand it - I started repairs in the kitchen and I want to guess with the number of lockers so that everything fits, and not the way it used to ...
Already have: microwave, HP, MV, electric kettle, mixer, pressure cooker (simple, not electric).
I want to buy (if I deem it necessary): kitchen. a combine (I read about Bosch, who cuts into cubes), a tabletop oven, a portable electric stove for 1.5 kW, an airfryer.

I love baked goods. The standard outlet in a gas oven was as follows: 2 pies 30cm and 24cm in diameter, 1 baking sheet 40x40cm pies and 2 the same baking buns. I don’t start fussing for less than 1.7 kg of dough, usually 2-3 kg of dough and 0.8-1.5 kg of filling. Like this...
As they say, sweets spoil the figure, and diet spoils life.

P.S. I will lay down the ode to the steam cleaner, because he will have to wash the kitchen and the stove. Then it would be nice to remake the tale about the Goldfish: the grandmother asked my grandfather for more and more new devices and in the end stayed with the broken flask from the AG ...

[Oca]

Oca , I know that for many, AG is an irreplaceable device. I have not grown together with him. Sent to the garage. It takes a lot of space .. It takes a long time to bake .. the bottom is white .. There are no buns at all .. Moreover, the volumes that you are writing about. In general, do not throw slippers - this is purely my IMHO.

So let's go to choose the oven !!! Great! Just awesome! We'll meet with AG later ...

We'll meet with AG later ...

There is no gas vaapche.

shake your paw like an insect to an insect. The situation is one-to-one mine, therefore regular. Here's what I have - several multi-cookers (2 different volumes are enough for you), 1 pressure cooker (electric), 1 electric pan for pancakes. Tabletop oven for 39 liters (you need no less with your pie volumes). All. (well, mikra, mixers, harvester, these are all sabo most ... should be)

Induction tabletop I have a tile - why I still don't understand

pans theme HERE

shake your paw like an insect to an insect.

I press the remaining 5 legs. Thanks for the link, I'll read it in the morning.I really want a multi-cooker-pressure cooker, especially after I tried to boil a pressure cooker today on a 600W stove. In the end, I cooked the broth, but this is no longer a pressure cooker. Even the cartoon managed to cook pilaf!

And we met! Convection grill Supra AGS-1211 is on sale for less than 1100r. What to do? I will dream of him now. Maybe buy, pamper? Its description: power 1300 W, useful volume 12 liters. Multifunctionality (roasting, grilling, barbecuing, boiling, stewing, steaming, baking, smoking, drying, sterilizing, reheating, etc.). Timer for 60 minutes. Removable cover. Mechanical control. Heating element - halogen lamp. Cooking time timer for 1 hour. Temperature regulator (temperature selection from 50 to 250 ° C). Operating mode indicators. Automatic shutdown of the airfryer when lifting the lid handle. Accessory set: low grate, high grate, set of skewers (4 pieces), grate grab. The body of the flask is made of heat-resistant, tempered glass. The working volume of the flask is 12 liters. Expansion ring up to 17 liters. Efficiency with voltage drops. Equipment: low and high grates, tongs for turning food. White colour. And the price is just a song! Tell me what? Ready to run even now !!!

For such a price, take it, definitely ... If you don't like it, you can give it later ... Santa Claus brought me AH, but forgot the string in the store. Now I'm waiting for the store to open, well, and Grandfather runs there ... And I already want to experience it .... Only they gave me a Hotter. It seems not cheap .. I, of course, didn’t really want it, and there’s nowhere to put it, although the kitchen is rather big ...

Of course, I didn't really want it, I had nowhere to put it, although the kitchen is rather big ...

It's a pity that Santa Claus has become distracted in his old age, and another cord (from the computer) does not fit? Maybe they are standard?
Previously, AG did not really want to because of the cost ... but I remembered that it was the same with HP and MV Where to put - at night I thought that it was necessary to urgently build a new cabinet, or, in extreme cases, a folding table on brackets, where to put the AG on time, and then put it in the refrigerator

Girls, thank you very much for your chat!

In defense of the airfryer, I make buns only in it, I bake almost every day, mine are eaten in flight. For 1 kg of dough, it is exactly kneading or even more. Friends took AG solely because of the cutlets, and only then they went kurniki, khachapuri, etc. The crocodile cake was baked normally. Custard, puffs, honey cakes, etc. Biscuits in mulch. What for, I bought myself a new stove, I don't know. And I'm lying if there is no light or so, on trifles, I cook on gas, and the oven is electric. If something happens to AG, I will cry and ask for a new one. I won't be with a mulka, because I have two of them, while I use one, let the second do whatever they want. My opinion: if finances allow, take. If only because of meat and pastries. After work, if I don't forget, I'll show you yesterday's buns.

[Giraffe,]

In defense of the airfryer, I make buns only in it, I bake almost every day, mine are eaten in flight. For 1 kg of dough, it is exactly kneading or even more.

and how many calls-bookmarks in the AG are obtained - rolls for more than a kilo of dough? And photos, Giraffe, This is very revealing ...

Wasp!, for such a price take it ... I myself am an ass on the action like this ... and build-build cabinets, tables, mezzanines, dig into basements, etc. it will be needed, I assure you ...

[Wasp]

Wasp, for such a price it is a sin not to take an airfryer. Now I really have nothing to do, I use 2 cartoons. I didn't like baking pies in it either, but meat, cutlets and everything else turn out great. You also need to build lockers, since the space allows it, then I'll put it up and I'll use it.

By the way, my oven is 42 liters, I'm happy with it.

3-4 bookmarks, in time it will still be faster than in the oven. While it heats up. It is quite possible to place 14 rolls on one rack for one tab. I usually bake in silicone baskets.Especially now I measured the volume with a multi-glass 85 ml, but they are still growing up. Here are the Abolitis buns, they are without molds, the diameter of the plate has just been measured 19.8 mm. Well, to assess the scale.

I don't remember the recipe for these buns, but look, the bottoms cannot say that they are pale.
The first "Milk Girl" cakes are thicker than needed, rolled out, but baked nonetheless. I also bake cookies calmly and bezeshki.

By the way, I in no way dissuade from a mini-oven, I just protect the airfryer. While in the oven for Tropikanka, I baked the grates 100 times with my mother's kind word, AG remembered.

3-4 bookmarks, in time it will still be faster than in the oven.

Well, about faster, I would argue ... (you can iron everything in the oven at once, and not 3-4 bookmarks). But baking five-baloff. not raw, cool ... hmmm ... sholi, again I go to be treated for AH ... in devicegolics ... but it's useless to go there. They heal one thing, cripple the other, like all medicine ...

to me that's what it is about AG NRA, so it is all visible visually ... magically everything happens there ... It's like looking at a washing machine when you just bought

To me, that's what about AG NRA, is that it is all visible visually ... magically everything happens there ...

We stuck like that for the first time when we made the Crocodile pie. Well, he generally turned out to be the most positive pastry for us. Since the moment of the crocodile. And when we just bought it, spontaneously, the place had not yet been picked up and I put it on the floor. They put the cutlets and my daughter watched the whole process with her booty up, with the words "I must see this" And commented on the process. And what about faster ... It was somehow that at the same time in the AG and the oven did ... For me personally, the AG rules. Maybe deviceaholics will dissuade, someone simply did not adapt to him, or maybe the model is not the same, they imposed the same weight on my friend in the store, but I smoke another lard, but she does not

About almost the topic. I bought myself a second cartoon ... for the treatment, the girl wore the child and started talking. So she was unhappy with her slow cooker, and then it was not so and this is not that way ... I bought it from her (forgive the syllable) for 5 thousand, and mine cost 17 thousand at the same time. than mine.

[Oca]

It's a pity that Santa Claus has become distracted in his old age, and another cord (from the computer) does not fit? Maybe they are standard?

By the way, yes, Oca business speaks!
Matroskin the cat - look at the cord that is plugged into 220 from the computer's power supply, in theory, even if it is thinner, it can still fit. Drive at least a couple of times while Santa Claus is digging him out there somewhere

A few days ago, a cord from a Panas thermo-pot died, I thought the device was dead ...
But it cannot be that for a year and Panasonic - she went and took a cord from a small multi Panasova, truncated works!
So now the cartoon needs a lace - I went to work from a computer, it is thinner.
As I understand it, the thick cord goes to 16 Amperes (3.2 kW), and the combo cord goes to 10 Amps (2.2 kW)
Hopefully the airfryer is less than 2.2, then one thing will do

A computer at work and cords to it, but from a laptop, it does not fit, yesterday they measured ... there the pins do not coincide with the holes ... from Panasik they would come up ... they say, but there is no Panasik either ...

[matroskin_kot]

Urrya! Here he is! Big, beautiful, buzzing. By the way, they lied about the set of skewers, they are not included in the kit (the manufacturer did not declare them either). Bring the AG home, washed it, read the instructions to cook? Only one thing comes to mind - Pop Corn! I don't associate him with anything else.
I'll buy an oven too, but I'll have to wait a week. HP, MV, AG, oven - they will not be instead, but together!

matroskin_kot, I sympathize ... If it were in Krasnodar, I would give such a cord. As an option, ask your fellow computer scientists, they should have a lot more wires than I have. Extreme people can pick up a soldering iron ...

[Wasp]

Wasp, Congratulations!!! Let the airfryer bring joy and different tasty things !!!

Urrya! Here he is! Big, beautiful, buzzing.

Congratulations!!! it is not casual, let it pleases with ease of preparation and purely visual beauty.

I just tasted potatoes (I baked them on a glass lid of a heat-resistant saucepan), I didn't have enough salt, but the crust is crispy! Not like in the oven ... and in just 20 minutes.
Thank you all once again, for having advised me to buy such a cool thing. I turn off the flood in this thread, I move to Aerogrill volume2. How to buy a stove, I will unsubscribe!

Well, personally, if I had to choose between mini-oven and AG, I would definitely choose AG, cooking options and more dishes!

Well, personally, if I had to choose between mini-oven and AG, I would definitely choose AG, cooking options and more dishes!

I wonder if this can be cooked in the AG, which is impossible in the oven ... (I am already silent about the volumes - the baking sheet of pies will definitely not fit)

[IRR]

IRR Grilled chicken! In an ordinary oven, you can't make a stop, it doesn't work out, it's tasty but not ice

[IRR]

IRR Grilled chicken! In an ordinary oven, you can't make a stop, it doesn't work out, it's tasty but not ice

and spit? not?

Meringue-bomb, no oven troubles !!!

and spit? not?

I say - in an ordinary oven, without bells and whistles And then the chicken will "dirtien" the oven.
And in AG, if everything is done correctly, just wash the mold into which the fat dripped, and the grate on which the chicken "basked" under the grill

I support 100%

I say - in an ordinary oven, without bells and whistles And then the chicken will "dirtien" the oven.

yes ... so what? does it make sense just for the sake of a chicken to have such a thing? Sasha! You have? and which? with a halogen?

I have a halogen, I baked zucchini and eggplants in it with plates, only greased them with butter. And I cook fatty fish.

yes ... so what? does it make sense just for the sake of a chicken to have such a thing? Sasha! You have? and which? with a halogen?

I have a hotter HX-1057 Elite, it has been hit for 5 years. Halogen Hotter does not release

I have a hotter HX-1057 Elite, it has been hit for 5 years. Halogen Hotter does not release

aha ... mabut, that's why it's 5 years old so that it's tenovy. Use understood, I shake hands

[IRR]

IRR
Well, a lot of things ...
For example a kebab!
In AG, it turns out like from a fire, if you put a piece of wood, and I and the family like meat in a pot more from AG, although my oven is just excellent!
But this is my opinion.

In deviceaholics, they also try to dissuade them from something, and then they buy together

In deviceaholics, they also try to dissuade them from something, and then they buy together

oh, Tan, shut up ...