mka
That's for sure
Lisss's
and this little knife caught fire to me:

Daggers and transformer problems.

Luda's LJ praises her, but I just need it.

but she is from the states, there is a voltage of 120 volts (or 110?), and we have 220 volts. I want to ask who understands this - can you somehow solve this issue, without buying a transformer? Because the transformer weighs 1.5 kg .. and in order to sharpen knives, I will have to set up a mini-factory in the kitchen.
Caprice
Isn't it easier to buy good knives that don't require sharpening?
Tanyusha
Lisss's looked now in our online stores it says 220 Volt power.
julifera
Quote: Lisss's

Caprice, unfortunately, absolutely all knives require sharpening / dressing .. good - less often, but nevertheless ..

At one time, I carefully studied this issue, climbed mountains of knife forums.
And if a cheap knife made of soft metal simply dulls, then expensive knives with a high edge hardness - they crumble and require special care.
One way or another - all require care and proper sharpening.

Lisss's - what brand of knives?

Maybe a simpler, manual option, like the Spyderco? It's much easier than stones, but certainly not electro.
It gives angles of 20 and 25 degrees without problems, it is possible to outwit and get 15 degrees.
If there is a desire for more than editing, diamond rods are bought in addition.
Lisss's
Tanyusha, yes, it is - in our online stores they are sold already made for Europe, for 220 volts.

but we are not looking for easy ways because

we have this - 1700 UAH.
in the states with delivery - 375 UAH

so I think, the craftsmen will be able to domesticate it? I don't think that domestication will cost (1700-375 =) 1300 UAH
Lisss's
Quote: julifera

Lisss's - what brand of knives?

julifera, that knives I have "mongrels", bergof .. the question is not in knives, but in a little knife .. these same comrades - Chef's Choice - have manual options, but they are still more expensive than in the states, electric manual ones. 700-800 UAH

well, something tells me that this issue can be somehow solved so that she gets her 120, not 220 ...
Caprice
Quote: Lisss's

Caprice, unfortunately, absolutely all knives require sharpening / dressing .. good - less often, but nevertheless ..
So, periodically change the knives, as they deteriorate. We now sell some kind of super-duper ceramic knives that do not require sharpening ...
julifera
It's just that if mongrels - then simple sticks like Lansky or Spiderko will take them without problems, it's problematic to sharpen the Japs on them.

But if the question is only electric sharpened tada I give up
In general, the Lansky set is enough for my eyes, I resharpened all the knives for myself and my parents.
not expensive - from 17 to 30 $

Daggers and transformer problems.

__________
Spyderco Tri-Angle Sharpmaker is already cooler, in the region of 70-80 dollars, very good reviews, I really wanted it, but a sensible seller explained to me that it makes no sense to pay so much that Lansky will manage

Daggers and transformer problems.
Lisss's
julifera, that such sticks scare me, I'm afraid of them .. and electro - stuck in and forgot ..

and also, for the price - spyderco - $ 70 * 8 = 560 UAH, and there is electric ... for 370 ...
Rina
julifera, kolis, where did Lansky find this set?
julifera
In our Caravan there is a point-showcase - 2x2 meters - with Victorinoxes and a bunch of hunting knives, periodically there are different sharpeners and stones.
They have a website, there my Lansky for 2 sharpened medium - 128 UAH cost in the fall.
I'll rummage around, I should have saved the link somewhere ...
Rina
Thank you, that should be enough. And then I was already muffled with old bars ...
julifera
Quote: Caprice

So, periodically change the knives, as they deteriorate. We now sell some kind of super-duper ceramic knives that do not require sharpening ...

We have such times now that you can't change the knives much, it's cheaper to have a good sharpener. Of course, I'm tired of counting every penny, but what to do ... knives are not tights ...
Pakat
Lisss's, a 220 \ 120 volt transformer in terms of power should be at least 1.25 times more than the power of a 110 volt device.
For example: the power of the sharpener is 300 watts, the power of the transformer is not less than 375 watts. This covers the peak loads during start-up and operation. This is where the price of the transformer comes from ...
Caprice
Quote: julifera

We have such times now that you can't change the knives much, it's cheaper to have a good sharpener. Of course, I'm tired of counting every penny, but what to do ... knives are not tights ...
Well, knives aren’t every day, and you don’t even change them every year ... But knife-making technologies change. In addition, today's ceramic ones do not require sharpening. When the time comes to change them, they will also invent something else.
Jefry
Quote: Lisss's

and this little knife caught fire to me:

Daggers and transformer problems.

Luda from LJ praises her, but I just need it.

but she is from the states, there is a voltage of 120 volts (or 110?), and we have 220 volts. so I want to ask who understands this - can you somehow solve this issue, without buying a transformer? Because the transformer weighs 1.5 kg .. and in order to sharpen knives, I will have to set up a mini-factory in the kitchen.
For such a thing, you can take not a transformer, but an autotransformer, it is much smaller, lighter and cheaper. The power of the small scissors sold with us is only 30-60 W, so you need to look for something like this:
Daggers and transformer problems.
sazalexter
Yes, but the converters that led Jefry they "burn" from reactive load, so you can't do without a 220-110v step-down transformer
Lisss's
guys, thank you for your help !!! what would I do without you !!!!

all the tips are great !! and in the final comes the advice from Jefry

I found such a thing on Ibei, it costs 85 UAH:

Daggers and transformer problems.

entrance - 220,
output - 110,
power - 50 watts

and the power of the sharpener is 55 watts

Tell me more, please, is the difference of 5 watts not so important?

Lisss's
Quote: sazalexter

Yes, but the converters that led Jefry they "burn" from reactive load, so you can't do without a 220-110v step-down transformer

Sasha, what, without a transformer?
sazalexter
Lisss's critical, it will fail, there must be a power reserve for inrush currents.
Lisss's
Sasha, you spoil all reporting for me, I'm kidding, do not be offended, on the contrary, please, thanks for the most useful information! and then on the Internet rushed to search - there generally go crazy - "solder the capacitor in front of the diode .."

Sasha, is this thing itself on fire, or the device that is included in it? that is, the sharpener should not burn out, but only this adapter, right?
sazalexter
Quote: Pakat

Lisss's, a 220 \ 120 volt transformer in terms of power should be at least 1.25 times more than the power of a 110 volt device.
For example: the power of the sharpener is 300 watts, the power of the transformer is not less than 375 watts. This covers the peak loads during start-up and operation. This is where the price of the transformer comes from ...
Here is a competent Master answered, especially since he lives in Canada, aware of these matters ...
matroskin_kot
Yeah, yeah, I burned my first Hitachi HP ... It's good that my friend flew to America, as if to work, they changed and brought a bandura transformer with him. But then the price was still "human" 20 years ago ...
Lisss's
about! matroskin-kot, is the transformer bandura very bandura?
sazalexter
Lisss's The adapter is on, I did not come across it myself, the information was both on this forum and in the internet, now I can not find it. A quenching capacitor can be used. But you need to correctly calculate its capacity, and it should be for an operating voltage of 600 volts MBGO, MBGM. Or MBGCH for 250 volts. And I don't know how he will behave while working on the engine.
Lisss's
sazalexter, Sasha, that is, for my 55 watts you need a transformer for at least 55 * 1.5 = 83?
sazalexter
Lisss's In Kiev, someone said there is a radio market, you will have to go there to buy cheaper trance
sazalexter
Lisss's Look for 100W
Lisss's
Sasha, I'll ask the last question, can I?

found 220/240 at 110/120, power 100 watts, and they, as luck would have it, just translate, but there is two-sided - maybe from 220 to 110, and from 110 to 220 .. which is more reliable - simple or double-sided?
sazalexter
Lisss's Luda, secretly if it is a transformer it is two-sided, there is no one-sided one.
sazalexter
Lisss's Luda, however, there can be an outlet only on one side, for example, for 110 volts, but for a two-way one it will switch
Jefry
Lisss's, You just need one, "in two directions". If you use it only for a knife, then no power reserve is needed, you can take the least powerful one and it will work. I emphasize - two or three minutes is enough to sharpen knives. Even the cheapest Chinese adapter will not have time to burn, and the branded one will never burn out. The power reserve is needed for a long-term operating load like a refrigerator.
dopleta
Lisss's, but endured, endured, but still I can not help but ask - do you not like TEFAL 0853631? Look - both the can opener and the knife. And it is inexpensive, you can buy from us for 800 rubles (not much more expensive than a good transformer) 🔗
Lisss's
dopleta, wow, what a cool Wishlist !!

but no, I'm a permanent lady, until I get over the sharpener, I won't want a 2-in-1 opener

sazalexter, Sasha, everything is clear for myself, I conclude that you can take the one that is cheaper, thanks!

Jefry, Thank you! the difference in price there is not particularly significant, so I will look

the price is as follows:

the parameters are the same, there is one current and vice versa (it has a switch for this)

one-sided - 160 UAH (I found it even cheaper)
double-sided - 182 UAH

Lisss's
Quote: Lika_n

Lisss's - but such an adapter will not work

Lika_n, what a cool thing - all the sockets are covered at once, but I can't find where its parameters are, what is the power in watts?
Nastasya
Daggers and transformer problems.
There is such a thing too. I ordered it from America. I use it with the cheapest adapter. Ugh, ugh. Works great. Sharpens knives perfectly! I don't regret taking it.
Lisss's
Nastasya, let me kiss you !!!!

do you have 310 or 320? how does she deal with bread knives?
Lisss's
Pakatic, golden, I started from this site up and down, so they write that 310 will sharpen a bread knife, but actually the 320th model is a specialist for bread. and it is 2 times more expensive than 310. from a live user and I ask
Aunt Besya
I have the 320th It sharpens well and simple and bread-tomato knives. The only thing is not very convenient to sharpen small sickle-shaped ones for vegetables, apparently due to the presence of a bend
Lisss's
ahh, AuntBeschka, so you have a special for bread, 320th ... and I take 310th ... maybe from Nastasya 310th ...
julifera
Quote: Lisss's

320th model. and it is 2 times more expensive than 310

I cannot understand one thing - why then 310 and 320 are almost the same on the outlet, why 310 is not half the cost, why do we need it ... okay, prices are already raised, but why exactly 310 are so overstated?
UAH 1,672 ($ 209) and UAH 1,872 ($ 234), respectively
Lisss's
I only found this in one place for such a price - it is a little used, therefore it costs little .. and a new one is also expensive ..
julifera
Quote: Lisss's

I only found this in one place for such a price - it is a little used, therefore it costs little .. and a new one is also expensive ..
That is, there is no guarantee that the abrasives are not grinded there?
Lisss's
I take a lot like that - while everything is t t t ..

looked for a new one - $ 45 + 30 delivery .. = 75 * 8 = 600 UAH

it's still cheaper than ours, almost three times .. oh, these businessmen
Pakat
Lisss's, I don’t know where you buy, pay with paypal, if you can, they guarantee a refund if something goes wrong ...
Nastasya
Quote: Lisss's

Nastasya, let me kiss you !!!!

do you have 310 or 320? how does she deal with bread knives?
You're welcome.
I read about this device in the thread about the knife on our forum. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2841.0
Model 130. One of the most advanced and the color of the kitchen. By the way, the box says "Not for professional use".
Daggers and transformer problems.

I did not experiment with bread knives. I don't use these.
julifera
I really love well sharpened knives, and I even like to sharpen them, but as I sharpen, then all the time I cut off something ...

Especially traumatic for me are sharpened claw-type knives for vegetables (the blade is in a semicircle towards itself)

And how are you? Are your fingers still intact?
Quote: Nastasya

Model 130 ... I did not experiment with bread knives. I don't use these.

The Chef's Choice 130 is a universal sharpening station that combines all possible knife sharpening options in one compact device. With this station, you can independently sharpen knives from any steel grade, ordinary knives, or knives with serrated (file) sharpening on your own.
Nastasya
Quote: julifera

I really love well sharpened knives, and I even like to sharpen them, but as I sharpen, then all the time I cut off something ...

Especially traumatic for me are sharpened claw-type knives for vegetables (the blade is in a semicircle towards itself)

And how are you? Are your fingers still intact?
Me not. But our grandmother immediately notes that the knives are freshly sharpened.

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