Foreword:
Orion 205, bought for an experiment for $ 50, served with faith and truth for almost 3 years and began to show signs of dying - making eerie clicking sounds when kneading the dough. I suppose it would have served even longer if I hadn't killed it by kneading a steep dumpling dough. However, the bread pan did not even think to peel off during this time, but the shoulder blades peeled off, because I forgot them in the bread a couple of times and cut them with a knife. In the internet I looked at the article of spare parts and realized that there was no point in repairing the stove. If it had not been taken out of production, I would have bought the same one. I would change myself every 3 years for a new one and did not bother)))
If I bought my first x / n spontaneously, for the sake of experiment, now I decided to approach the choice a little more meaningfully and, first of all, I realized that I personally do not need or do not like in x / n.
I do not need a dispenser and I breathe very evenly for brown bread and buy brown bread no more than once every couple of months. But I like to make bread from coarse wheat flour with the addition of rye ... Therefore, I gave up unnecessary functions.
The form factor matters. I like the classic brick, which is obtained in x / n with two mixers. Therefore, I considered only such. Others with a higher mold in half or 3/4 length, I have not considered. Well, the size of the x / n itself - for my kitchen I need not too bulky.
After going around the shops and feeling with my hands all sorts of cotton in the price range from $ 50 to $ 350, I realized that, with rare exceptions, they practically do not differ in workmanship. At least outwardly. In any case, purely by touch, opening and closing the lid, examining the manufacture of the case, buttons and comparing my old Orion, for example, with Moulinex for $ 350, I did not feel that difference by touch. Very similar parts, as if cast in one mold, a similar design, a thin aluminum body that plays just the same slightly under the fingers ... I didn’t penetrate ... maybe, of course, the quality of the plastic, which I did not feel, or perhaps the durability of Moulinex is better ... but for that kind of money I will buy six Orions and change them every 3 years for 18 years. I think that at least if Moulinex works so much, then the molds and scapula will definitely require repeated replacement.
Not satisfied with what I saw in the stores, I went online. The choice fell on Gorene BM1400E I liked the design and size of the canvas itself. Adequate price. An interesting solution with a second double pan, in which two different types of bread can be baked at the same time.
Now the report itself (in comparison with my old x / n, of course)
As I said, the impression is that all x / c are made, if not at the same plant, then on the same equipment. Inside, almost everything is the same, from an identical measuring cup with a spoon and a hook, exactly the same shape and size of the paddle drive, to completely interchangeable paddles and baking dishes. Unless Gorenya has a slightly higher mold, because of the ability to bake larger bread. But the mold from Orion is put in Gorenye like a native one. In short, I did not experience delight, but neither did I feel grief, I just took a philosophical approach to marketing, OEM production and globalization)))
That slightly upset: the material of the molds and blades has become different - thinner and lighter. I hope that the quality of their coverage has not deteriorated. The lack of a watch was also upset. Orion had a watch. I just set the right time of day when I want to get ready-made bread, moreover, the delay time was not limited to 13 hours. In burning, in order to establish the delay time, I need to do, though simple, but still counting in my head, subtracting the required readiness time from the current one. Of course, I can count))) but it's more pleasant to just set the time.
After reading about the problems with the fit of the top cover, I drew attention to my own. There is a small gap, but very small, it did not seem to affect the baking result. There is an idea to remove it in a similar way to setting up door hinges in cabinets, namely:
The cover hinges are fastened with three screws to the c / n body. I think you need to loosen all three screws and align the cover by hand. Then, holding the cover with your hand in the desired position, tighten the screws until you feel that the cover begins to slide out from the desired position.
If suddenly any of the screws as a result of the adjustment turns out to be under-tightened, then I will put a gasket under it - either a washer of a suitable size, or I will fold it out of foil ... in short, the meaning, I think, is clear. I will unsubscribe based on the results.
Now for baking bread and recipes:
Certain points in the recipes that come with the stove surprised me. In particular:
- the measures are indicated in grams, and not in the volume of a measuring cup (on which there are no divisions, approximately corresponding to grams) It turns out that you need to fool around with weighing, but I don't like that. By the way, for the record: once weighed the weight of flour in a full measuring glass - exactly 130 grams.
- I was also very surprised by the amount of yeast: The indicated amount of yeast is 3/4 of a pack. While in Orion's recipes there were 3/4 teaspoon and a pack of yeast 7 grams was enough for me about 4-5 loaves.
Dealing with the x / n, I drew attention to the fact that the total cooking time + -5 minutes coincides with what was in Orion. If in Orion the total cooking time for 900 grams of bread is 2:55, then in Gorenye bread for 1000 grams is cooked at 2:50.
Since the cotton was brought in in the evening, and I wanted to experience it as soon as possible, given its similarity to Orion, without further ado, I threw everything into it according to Orion's bread recipe for 900 grams. In the morning, it turned out exactly the same bread that I got used to over the past three years))))
Here is a recipe for a standard 900 grams of bread, which I cooked on the standard 1st program, for 1000 grams.
- Flour 3 and 1/2 measuring cups
- Salt 1 and 1/3 tsp.
- Sugar 2 and 1/2 tbsp. l
- Oil 2 and 1/2 tbsp. l (for my mood I take sunflower, corn, olive)
- Liquid 1 and 1/3 cup (since there is always regular milk in the house, I take about 1/3 measuring cup of milk + 1 glass of water)
- Yeast 3/4 tsp (or 7/8 tsp) It has been experimentally established that if you add 3/4 tsp, then bread is obtained with a smooth convex lid. If you put about 7/8 tsp of yeast (about 2 mm below the edge of the spoon), then the bread is obtained with a very nicely cracked (but not torn !!!) lid. I do just that. I use Saf-Moment.
It was according to this recipe that the new cotton this morning pleased me with delicious bread.
I am sure that other recipes from Orion 205 will work with this model as well.
If anything, Orion's recipes are here:
🔗Good luck to all )
Update: Adjusted the cover. I slightly unscrewed three screws, installed the cover so that the groove coincided with the notch, and then, as described above. A slight non-parallelism of the side edge of the cover and the body is present, but IMHO it does not affect anything, since the cover normally lies in the corresponding groove along the entire perimeter.
Also pay attention to the fact that the screws, on top of the x / n perimeter, are fully tightened and do not go beyond the recess in height. I had one screw that was not tightened properly, which also did not ensure a snug fit of the lid.