Kitchen machine Kenwood (2)

Girls, right now we urgently need an answer and your opinion - kenwood km289 for 18,000.

[Elena]

Elena, although Yandex Market is not indicative at all, but the reviews there are not very good. For example, about the appearance of metal shavings. Brrr!
Why did I pay attention to this shavings. Literally at the weekend, the link gave to 010 a model for 27 thousand. We discussed and decided to buy it as a gift. Well, the long distance for such a purchase is not a hindrance. That's it, I ordered it.
And in the morning the manager calls me back. Yes, there is such a unit, but it turns out metal shavings. Pancake.
Not. Now I really react to this shavings.
Yes, Elena, they write that it is kind of flimsy.
I don't know ... Maybe something else to look at?
But this is just my opinion and nothing more!

[Rita]

Rita, Thank you! I also read about shavings ... And I think about Boshik, I need something mainly for dough and creams, everything else is there separately

ARLEI, Good afternoon. I also wanted to buy the same stock model in M ​​video, but I was told 6 attachments which I can take and only them (of which 3 are for the test). Tell us how you bought your attachments.

but it turns out metal shavings. Pancake.
Not. Now I really react to this shavings.

Rita, tell me, what kind of shavings are they? And where is she hiding?

ARLEI, Good afternoon. I also wanted to buy the same stock model in M ​​video, but I was told 6 attachments which I can take and only them (of which 3 are for the test). Tell us how you bought your attachments.

For the test, be sure to take. I also took a rubbing 992, a juicer, a mini chopper, a high-speed grater, a cube cutter

For the test, be sure to take. I also took a rubbing 992, a juicer, a mini chopper, a high-speed grater, a cube cutter

In addition to rolling, they offer 2 more for cutting. And they say the rubbing and mini shredders are not on the list they were given. although they had a sieve for cleaning.

And the wipers and mini shredders say are not on the list

strange. what is included? Take 2 cuts too

strange. what is included? Take 2 cuts too

A citrus juicer, a cube cutter, an ice cream maker, a dough sheeter, for spaghetti and also for spaghetti (tolietelli or something). They said choose only from these.

[irene16]

irene16Apparently, the cuts are not as actively bought as the other nozzles, so they decided to replace the more popular ones with less. You call the officials and ask them if it might be an m-video initiative.

I'm not a fan of all these showdowns and curses, but I want Kesha .... I'll call to find out. thanks for the advice

Irene16, Do you have a Media Markt store? There, too, this action is underway, and you can choose any attachments. I agree with Margo about the dough sheeter. I would advise you to take another rub and an ice cream maker. I rarely use a cube cutter, but it may come in handy during the harvesting season.

In Media Markt, acacia ended in theory.
Here about the action
🔗

No, it didn't end, yesterday was there, they said until December 31

Well, it’s not over, so it’s not over.
I gave a link to the conditions above.
There is paragraph 4.7
"The organizer of the action has the right to suspend its holding at any time without explaining the reasons and reserves the right to replace the promotional sets ..."

Irene16, Do you have a Media Markt store? There, too, this action is underway, and you can choose any attachments. I agree with Margo about the dough sheeter. I would advise you to take another rub and an ice cream maker. I rarely use a cube cutter, but it may come in handy during the harvesting season.

There is a media mark, but there is simply not a great selection of nozzles, there is no wiper or grinder. And in the M video they are, but they do not want to sell for the stock)

Girls and now I also want to know about this shavings. Where does it start?

I’ll write my own shavings.
The bowl does not fit tightly into place and when the planetary drive rotates, the nozzle slowly scrapes along the wall of the bowl.
I had such a corps de ballet with an ice cream bowl, but there was not metal shavings, but plastic.

I also wanted to buy the same stock model in M ​​video, but I was told 6 attachments which I can take and only them (of which 3 are for the test). Tell us how you bought your attachments.

Yesterday I bought it in the Media Market. There you can choose any attachments.
In Moscow and St. Petersburg there are all the attachments, while in other cities the choice is limited.
So yesterday I bought my wife's sister and sent it by the transport company. They don't have much choice in Kazan.

I'm in Kazan, there are not all attachments in one store

How much does the shipping cost?

I'm in Kazan, there are not all attachments in one store

I wrote about this.

How much does the shipping cost?

2000 rbl

[Kenwood KM20]

I found a wonderful culinary blog on YouTube (both informative and funny), where in many recipes the main character is Kenwood KM20.

For example, sweet cake:
And what kind of bread (!):

I also really liked the videos
This author has his own blog, where he completely uploads the recipes from the video. Excellent presentation and photos. As he writes, the video and the recipe complement each other. Great!
//freshman-svd.livejournal.com/

[igel _el]

igel _el, congratulations, let him serve faithfully. then tell me if you managed to tame the hook for yeast

[irene16]

irene16I was also told at the beginning, showed a letter with a list of attachments - just these. I knew what exactly the girls were taking, so I didn't agree. The program did not work for them yet. I came home, called the Kenwood hotline, they confirmed that any nozzles from the stock in the range or on order. She told the MVideo employee about this, called me 10 minutes later, said that everything is possible, come. As a result, the berry press and rubbing were made to order. I brought home an ice cream maker, a chopper, a citrus juicer, a dough rolling machine. I didn't want a citrus juicer, I took it for reasons of "cheaper", but today I added juice to tea, cottage cheese, the juice squeezed out so well that I decided to leave it! With a grinder I prepared a curd mass for the youngest. She also rubbed the meat for lunch, everything in convenient glass jars - a complete delight. Mashed potatoes for lunch.
Now I go and think - few attachments, still need

[irene16]

irene16I was also told at the beginning, showed a letter with a list of attachments - just these. I knew what exactly the girls were taking, so I didn't agree. The program did not work for them yet. I came home, called the Kenwood hotline, they confirmed that any nozzles from the stock in the range or on order. She told the MVideo employee about this, called me 10 minutes later, said that everything is possible, come. As a result, the berry press and rubbing were made to order. I brought home an ice cream maker, a chopper, a citrus juicer, a dough rolling machine. I didn't want a citrus juicer, I took it for reasons of "cheaper", but today I added juice to tea, cottage cheese, the juice squeezed out so well that I decided to leave it! With a grinder I prepared a curd mass for the youngest. She also rubbed the meat for lunch, everything in convenient glass jars - a complete delight. Mashed potatoes for lunch.
Now I go and think - few attachments, still need

Thanks for the answer. And how did you get it to order (as I understand it, they were not available in the store)? I also called Kenwood, they issued a letter with a request for a list of attachments to the store, said to wait for an answer

[irene16]

irene16, I paid for everything, so that it would go by one check, I received everything except them. As soon as the goods arrive (2 weeks), they told me they will send an SMS, come up with a statement and a check and get it.

Congratulations, let him serve faithfully. then tell me if you managed to tame the hook for yeast

Thank you, DruH!
Will I have to tame ?! I didn't know ... I took it mainly as a kneader. Twice a week I bake rye / rye-wheat sourdough bread: umnik2
What problems are foreseen? : crazy: It is necessary the same morally prepare. Or return to the store immediately?

Will I have to tame ?!

my yeast dough crawls up the hook, although no one crawls. so I think I'm just one with such crooked hands or something.
It doesn’t bother me to work, I’m already used to it and is still very happy that I have it.

we periodically raise this topic, we discussed again 7-10 pages ago, and "incorrect proportions" and "crooked handles" .... there are a lot of us like that. Therefore, I do not make yeast dough in Kesh!

no, I do it anyway, in fact this is the main reason why I bought it. you just need to stop yourself in time and not add extra flour, but pull out the dough and give it a little bun shape with handles and everything is great.
and many years ago I did not make friends with a bread maker, I got to her this way and that, but she was obstinate and did not give in to me, in the end she bought it at an auction for 30 euros or even more, and sold it this way the same at the auction for 1 eur, since no one really took and got enough that it takes a place. Only in order to get rid of and put up for auction.

[adelinalina]

adelinalina, m0use, I stand with a spatula and drop the dough from the hook down. Otherwise, in the sink, not only the hook, but also the cache itself needs to be washed

[Ksyusha]

Ksyusha, Oksana, I don’t understand why it is creeping up?
So I won't lie, and I even filmed a video of how Yakenvkd kneads the dough and it is clear that nothing is crawling.
I once crawled, but the dough turned out to be liquid and smeared along the bottom of the bowl.

Here, Mash, and on the video does not crawl, but I crawl and that's it! Even adding flour does not help - the dough turns out to be tough, and .... it creeps, an infection!
Pavel, and the author has the same as mine 020

Try oiling the hook with oil.

Try oiling the hook with oil.

Pavel, and you read the Temko for a year, whatever I did, what I did not lubricate ... in the end, we came to the conclusion that someone is kneading, and someone is not. The hook may be incorrectly adjusted, and it is not recommended to touch it

Congratulations! Congratulations with all our hearts on your wonderful helper!
Let Kenka serve for a long time and always please!

Thank you!
First report
1. Yeast wheat-spelled / spelled bread with yoghurt is baked in the oven. Recipe from the official Keshina page. The dough climbed up within the permitted limits. Not impudent. Knead with heating approx. 36 °
2. Cream soup made from leftover vegetables (cauliflower, leek, celery, carrots, parsnips and onions)
The onions were sautéed directly in Kesh at 140 °. And I cooked everything in it too.
Added Curry paste and coconut milk (always in stock).
I haven't bought a blender yet, I used a submersible one.
Soup went to Hurray
P.S. I got the bread. It turned out well, not our taste. We'll eat it, of course, but I won't repeat it. We don't have white bread. Pekla for the sake of experiment.

Pavel, and you read the Temko for a year, whatever I did, what I did not lubricate ... in the end, we came to the conclusion that someone is kneading, and someone is not. The hook may be incorrectly adjusted, and it is not recommended to touch it

Listen, Ksyusha, can you really fix the hook? It, unlike other nozzles, should not be close to the bottom. Under it, the tip of the little finger should crawl tightly, with effort, literally to the middle of the nail.
See how you are, remember this position, and then adjust the hook. If this does not help or becomes worse, return to the starting position.

Listen, Ksyusha, can you really fix the hook? It, unlike other nozzles, should not be close to the bottom. Under it, the tip of the little finger should crawl tightly, with effort, literally to the middle of the nail.

interesting ... I didn’t adjust my hook, but my little finger doesn’t fit, only a toothpick goes through tightly. When kneading a small amount, the dough is wrapped on a hook, but does not climb up, while the dough comes out excellent.

Well, my whole little finger also does not fit, only the edge can be slipped in with effort. In addition, I have a slightly different hook (080) than Ksenia's.
Girls who have a hook like Ksyusha's (020) and the dough does not crawl over it to the sky, look at your distance from its tip to the bottom of the bowl. We must somehow figure out the problem

[Ol]

Ol, so I have a hook like Ksyusha, only a smaller size (010), so there is not even a hint of slipping the tip of the little finger (and I have it very small), that's really just a toothpick fit. And when kneading, the dough is wound like Tatiana Admin here

in the long term I want a hook from induction, it's awesome.

here I have just such an awesome hook, I also wanted an induction harvester for it, then I started thinking to buy a simpler one and buy a hook quickly, but my husband insisted on saving up for induction, since he had already started, so as not to regret later

Well, my entire little finger also does not fit, only the edge can be slipped in with effort

exactly? In the morning I ran to check, my hand, of course, is rather small. But here I have not just a little finger, my middle finger is crushed, of course, but the first phalanx goes under it. And the little finger so generally almost walks freely, only the skin is slightly pressed down.

[adelinalina]

adelinalina, Oksana, went to check too. My little finger fits to the middle of the first phalanx. She took off the bowl and measured the distance from the bottom point of the hook to the platform on which the bowl is placed. 1.2-1.3 cm, no more.

new fun for members of the forum, measuring the distance of the hook to the bottom)
I get about 1.5.
I even took a photo for clarity

Ksyu, what kind of Olga are you talking about? If about me, then it makes no sense to me: I have a different hook, it works differently. This should be asked specifically for those who have a 020 machine, and for whom nothing really climbs up when kneading the dough, for whom it kneads well.
Let's not rush things yet. I hope that information will appear in a day or two.
Hey girls boys!

Oksana, try to lower the drop.

I just have the feeling that the hook, unlike other mixers, should not be close to the bottom of the bowl, but at a quite significant distance

[a]

Oops! ...
And what, when kneading, the dough is twisted on the hook to the very top?
She ran to measure.

Reportay: from the lowest tip of the hook to the bottom of the platform on which the bowl is installed (i.e. not to the bottom of the bowl, but exactly to the platform on which it is installed) 15mm exactly - checked with a compass, ruler and flashlight
Here it is still necessary to understand whether the geometry of all bowls is standard.
The distance from the tip of the hook to the bottom of the bowl is more difficult to measure, but the little finger goes there freely, and the index finger is slipped in with some effort to the middle of the first phalanx.

Girls, I measured)
! cm to the platform

[Oksana]

Oksana, according to your photo it looks like yours is lower. I see 12mm.
Try to raise it up to at least 15mm.
That is, pick up a 15-16mm mark on the farm or fold it out of paper and adjust the hook so that it does not reach the bottom of the bowl nest just that much. It is not convenient to jump with a ruler here, it is better to pick up a template mark.
In addition, if the dough is not dense enough so that, in principle, it could collect into a bun, as, for example, for many types of rye bread and many shaped products, then it will smear along the bottom, even if it is collected in a lump during operation of the mixer, it can crawling along the bottom again is normal. The main thing is that everything is evenly mixed.
For me, for example, if this dough is not from the "bryak-bryak" series (which are almost never kneaded at all), the dough is mixed first for 3-5 minutes, then it stands for 15 minutes, and then kneading for 12 minutes - how silk is obtained, obedient , even if it seems to be smeared.
But it should not crawl up strongly.

Mashun, but your hook doesn't seem to fit (according to your video), but the hook itself is really lower than mine.
Then it’s not clear at all what it depends on.

[Business]

Yes, Mashenka, it's rather small compared to mine. But you don't know if it was regulated or not

Business, Elena, first see the safety precautions device.
Then read how to adjust the height of the attachments.
Then see which modes are recommended for different needs. And you can immediately begin to apply it in practice to prepare the next lunch or dinner.
Good luck!

from your photo it looks like yours is lower. I see 12mm.

Yes, I have just about 15, so I measured it with a special box of matches, it just fits. and he is 15 mm.

[Bechamel sauce in a Kenwood 086/096 kitchen machine, induction.]

Bechamel sauce in a Kenwood 086/096 kitchen machine, induction.
Ingredients:
- Milk 400ml
- Butter 50 gr
- Wheat flour 3 tbsp. l. (1 tbsp. L. = 30g)
- Black pepper 1/4 tsp.
- Salt 1/2 tsp.
- Nutmeg Pinch
There are several options / varieties of the recipe for this sauce, the ingredients change, general principle following:
- Install the silicone attachment (with rubber pad), put butter (room temperature) and flour into the bowl. Fry at 140 * C and stirring mode 1 (right, red) for 1 minute.
- Increase the speed to 2 (left), gradually add milk until smooth. / At a temperature of 140 * C. /
- Speed, set min / or Stir 1 (right). Boil. Add salt, pepper and nutmeg - at the end of cooking. Cook until thick (up to 5 minutes). / At a temperature of 140 * C. /
The result, here:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=299685.0