Alenka212
Robo-Cop, you are so delved into the topic that I can not help but ask you for advice. : hi: Reading those. characteristics and reviews of various models, I concluded: the Panda and similar models have a higher suction power, which is good for cleaning the floor without coverings. But .. If there is a carpet or carpet with a layer of animal fluff adhered to it (I have a Persian puffy cat), interspersed with long hair, then you need to think about a combing model like Rumba620 (here you cannot avoid problems with cleaning brushes). Correct if not so.
Robo-Cop
Quote: Alyonka212

Here 630 = 620 + virtual wall + additional. filters. Or did I not understand something?

Everything is absolutely true: the 630 differs from the 620 only in the package bundle. In the 630th, there is also 1 Wirth in the kit. wall and 1 spare filter.

In the table given by me, I agree, the difference in additional. filters is not obvious.

As for Wirth. walls, the 620 supports them, but does not have them in the kit.

Alenka212
Robo-Cop, what about the choice?
Robo-Cop
Quote: Alyonka212

Reading those. characteristics and reviews of various models, I concluded: the Panda and similar models have a higher suction power, which is good for cleaning the floor without coverings. But .. If there is a carpet or carpet with a layer of animal fluff adhered to it (I have a Persian puffy cat), interspersed with long hair, then you need to think about a combing model like Rumba620 (here you cannot avoid problems with cleaning brushes). Correct if not so.

I only distribute helpers from iRobot. Unfortunately, all the other Brands, in terms of a common denominator of positive characteristics, did not come close to the quality of cleaning and maintenance of the devices of this company.

Suction power is, in principle, important on any flooring. It is likely that some third-party models have a higher rate than Rumba. Nevertheless, it is impossible to consider the strength of absorption as the only and most important indicator (from my point of view).

Rumba is excellent at combing wool and hair. And problems with cleaning the brushes on models with an updated brush unit (including 620) may arise only at the first start. If you have never had a vacuum cleaner with a spinning fluffy brush before, then naturally, after the first start, Rumba can wind a fairly large amount of wool and hair around the brush. But what's the problem? They cleaned it up, that's all. In the 500 series with the old brush unit, it really took more time and effort.

In short, I do not understand what worries you: "problems with cleaning the brushes", which in fact do not exist, or "cleaning the brushes" itself, which is an absolutely simple and energy-consuming procedure?
Alenka212
It just comes across often in user reviews. It is alarming that there is a sad experience: the joy of using the washing Thomas turns into melancholy at the thought of washing his tank, etc. I don’t want to repeat it. But in my situation, apparently, except for Rumba 620-630, there is no alternative.
Robo-Cop
Quote: Alyonka212

It just comes across often in user reviews. It is alarming that there is a sad experience: the joy of using the washing Thomas turns into melancholy at the thought of washing his tank, etc. I don’t want to repeat it. But in my situation, apparently, except for Rumba 620-630, there is no alternative.

The time for cleaning the knots of any Rumba, regardless of the model, almost never exceeds 5 minutes. The frequency of these cleaning depends on the type of floor contamination.

I've heard about the Thomas too. Rumba has a cleaning quality factor that is much higher than the time spent on care.
Alenka212
And it pleases! I put Rumba on my wish list.
mowgli
Quote: Robo Cop

I've heard about the Thomas too. Rumba has a cleaning quality factor that is much higher than the time spent on care.
did not understand, how is it?
Lucha
Quote: Alyonka212

It just comes across often in user reviews. It is alarming that there is a sad experience: the joy of using the washing Thomas turns into melancholy at the thought of washing his tank, etc. I don’t want to repeat it. But in my situation, apparently, except for Rumba 620-630, there is no alternative.
Let's not confuse these vacuum cleaners with different functionality. I use Rumba regularly, but I don't forget about Thomas either. Rumba is intended only for the floor and its main charm is that you do not need to make any efforts yourself. And if we want to get into all the cracks, vacuum furniture, walls ... You still can't do without an ordinary vacuum cleaner
Robo-Cop
Nobody disputes the "variety" of robotic vacuum cleaners and vacuum cleaners in the classical sense.

As far as I understand, Alenka 212 I was afraid to make a mistake in the choice, namely: to buy a vacuum cleaner, which is positioned as a "Robot", and as a result, after each autonomous cleaning, squat down and clean this very robot for half an hour.

Your words confirm the groundlessness of such fears.
Quote: Lucha

Rumba is intended only for the floor and its main charm is that you do not need to make any efforts yourself.

Thomas was cited as an example of a good capital cleaner, when choosing which the consumer often does not know or loses sight of the upcoming laboriousness of the service.
Rita
Friends, you can flip your Rumba and look at the wheel slot on the left above the brushes. Is it the same size as on the right, or a little narrower? I have specifically already and the wheel gets stuck there all the time, then it does not enter, then it does not come out.
Lucha
Quote: Rita

Friends, you can flip your Rumba and look at the wheel slot on the left above the brushes. Is it the same size as on the right, or a little narrower? I have specifically already and the wheel gets stuck there all the time, then it does not enter, then it does not come out.
I have the same, only on the wheel itself there are metal pins of different lengths
Rita
Thank you, Lyuchenka !!! Happy belated birthday to you!!! Be happy and healthy! And may there be more healthy people around you than sick people.
And I have this particular slot much narrower. Obviously a factory defect! As I had not noticed before! I thought I'd buy a new wheel. But I'm afraid that won't fix the problem.
Lucha
Rita, maybe neatly with a file
Thank you for the kind words
Rita
I no longer even neatly and not even a file, but a small drill with an abrasive tip, but alas. It gets stuck anyway. Here I will buy another tip .... !!! And then from this almost nothing is left, the husband has not yet seen.
Lyi
Quote: Robo Cop


P.S. And just try to say that something is not clear to you !!!
Robo Cop!
Alas for me!
In search and torment of choice, the question arose anyway.
What is the difference between a virtual wall and a lighthouse?
Does the lighthouse significantly improve quality and make cleaning easier?
I choose between 770 and 780.
Thanks for the table, it has become much easier to compare and choose.
Alenka212
Quote: Robo Cop

Nobody disputes the "variety" of robotic vacuum cleaners and vacuum cleaners in the classical sense.

As far as I understand, Alenka 212 I was afraid to make a mistake in the choice, namely: to buy a vacuum cleaner, which is positioned as a "Robot", and as a result, after each autonomous cleaning, squat down and clean this very robot for half an hour.

Thomas was cited as an example of a good capital cleaner, when choosing which the consumer often does not know or loses sight of the upcoming laboriousness of the service.

Robo-Cop, thank you, you absolutely understood my idea.
Rita
Quote: Lyi

Robo Cop!
Alas for me!
In search and torment of choice, the question arose anyway.
What is the difference between a virtual wall and a lighthouse?
Does the lighthouse significantly improve quality and make cleaning easier?
I choose between 770 and 780.
Thanks for the table, it has become much easier to compare and choose.
The virtual wall is like a closed door. The robot cleans the room with the "closed door" and turns off.
A lighthouse is a temporarily closed door that will open when the robot cleans the entire room, and it can move to another to continue cleaning there.
Something like this .
Rita
It seems to me that reviews about the difficulties with cleaning the brushes are written by complete lazy people who want the vacuum cleaner to vacuum everything, empty out the trash, clean the brushes, kiss the owner and go to the base.
Vei
Quote: Rita

It seems to me that reviews about the difficulties with cleaning the brushes are written by complete lazy people who want the vacuum cleaner to vacuum everything, empty out the trash, clean the brushes, kiss the owner and go to the base.
+100500!
I clean the brushes in seconds, everything is so fast and simple that I don't even use a special device for this.
Tatoshenka
Quote: Vei

+100500!
I clean the brushes in seconds, everything is so fast and simple that I don't even use a special device for this.
So I also read and am surprised, well, there are NO difficulties with cleaning the brushes, I don’t understand what the problem is out of the blue?
Alenka212
Well, I made porridge ...
Tatoshenka
Quote: Alyonka212

Well, I made porridge ...
To be honest, I was also afraid of these brushes, I read a lot on the internet that this is such a problem, in fact, it's as easy as shelling pears. Take it, don't be afraid, Rumbik is just a miracle, it cleans up so well that my two vacuum cleaners are idle. Here my Thomas is standing in a daaal corner, his cleaning really bothers me, well, it didn't work out with him, only if the carpets were washed, and so the LG kompressor only worked for me, now he is resting.
Song
Quote: Rita

It seems to me that reviews about the difficulties with cleaning the brushes are written by complete lazy people who want the vacuum cleaner to vacuum everything, empty out the trash, clean the brushes, kiss the owner and go to the base.
... I also took out the trash ...
Quote: Tatoshenka

my Thomas is standing in the far corner, his cleaning really bothers me,
+100
Alenka212
Quote: Tatoshenka

Here is my Thomas standing in the far corner,
.
Who would have known when buying ...

Mine is, of course, closer: I clean the carpet and along the way the floor before washing (well, once I turned it on, let it work out). Sometimes my sofa with a carpet (my daughter can pour milk and rub in cookies), sometimes the floor after her husband's repair and construction work. Salon of the purchased soap car. although the furniture attachment is also inconvenient for this.
Song
Quote: Alyonka212

.
Who would have known when buying ...

Mine is, of course, closer: I clean the carpet and along the way the floor before washing (well, once I turned it on, let it work out). Sometimes my sofa with a carpet (my daughter can pour milk and rub in cookies), sometimes the floor after her husband's repair and construction work. Salon of the purchased soap car. although the furniture attachment is also inconvenient for this.
There are no complaints about Thomas's work. To service ...
Tatoshenka
Quote: Song *

There are no complaints about Thomas's work. To service ...
Joining
simfira
Is a 12-month warranty from the store normal or not? What is fraught with? Or looking for an official guarantee?

Ukrainians, who bought where?
Alenka212
Dear rumbovody! Do they have service only in Moscow? And if a breakdown is sent? Who faced?
lillay
Where did you buy the robot? If in Moscow, then yes, if in the region - that is, there are authorized services.
Alenka212
For now, I'm just choosing a victim. I found one such firm with us.
Alenka212
Well, I'm sorry to bother you again. Until I buy it, I will not calm down.
Does it matter where to buy rumba. On the official website to its price + delivery and service only in Moscow. The company located in our city also calls itself: RoboPark Company is the official partner of iRobot Corporation. They also promise service.
Albina
Quote: Alyonka212

Well, I'm sorry to bother you again. Until I buy it, I will not calm down.
Does it matter where to buy rumba. On the official website to its price + delivery and service only in Moscow. The company located in our city also calls itself: RoboPark Company is the official partner of iRobot Corporation. They also promise service.
The decision where to buy is all the same for you. And if you think logically, then having bought in your city, on all questions you will communicate directly with the seller. On the one hand, this is a plus. And all breakdowns (God forbid) will have to be eliminated by the seller. Well, look at the price: how much more expensive they are on sale.
Alenka212
This is the most difficult moment of making a decision. What confuses me is whether the quality of the robots produced for the sale of the official differ. chain stores and purchased in China by other sellers. This gnaws at me after I saw an offer in China for the purchase of Rumb in the amount of 35 pieces. I understand that now all the equipment is practically made in China, but its quality, probably, depends on who, under whose control and in what shift it was made.
Vei
I bought my "gray" rumbic not in China, but from us, but the whole box was pasted over with American postal stickers. From which I concluded that it was brought here from the States, not China, and yes, it was tailored for the American power grid and came with a converter.
Albina
I came to the conclusion for a long time: wherever you buy, it is always like in the lottery: "lucky, unlucky"
Vei
Quote: Albina

I came to the conclusion for a long time: wherever you buy, it is always like in the lottery: "lucky, unlucky"
This is absolutely certain! Only depending on the brand, the percentage of luck is different)))
Robo-Cop
Quote: Alyonka212

This is the most difficult moment of making a decision. What confuses me is whether the quality of the robots produced for the sale of the official differ. chain stores and purchased in China by other sellers.

All robots from one assembly line. The robots themselves are exactly the same for all regions, be it Europe, Australia or the United States. For different geographic markets, they differ only in power supplies and sometimes in a complete set. Despite the fact that all Rumbas are made in the Celestial Empire, no one buys Rumbas in China. 99.9% of offers from China are fraudulent or an attempt to sell some kind of washer on wheels that vaguely resembles Rumba in shape.

iRobot, like Apple, has very strict control over production and sales. It is impossible even to imagine that part of the party left the factory "to the left". Do not forget that iRobot is a company that became famous not for vacuum cleaners, but for robotic equipment for military and police needs.

Of course, iRobot has a defect rate. It cannot but exist - it is still a technique. But it is very low. The wheels in the vacuum cleaner do not fall off by themselves, as the technology has been tested on robot manipulators for demining or minefield demolition robots.

In addition, Rumba is made according to the Lego principle. If you do not clean your vacuum cleaner in a timely manner-> dust accumulates-> enters the gearbox-> the grease in the gearbox loses its properties-> plastic gears begin to melt from friction = the robot starts limping on one side, throws an error and stops. Problem? Yes! Is it solved? Yes! You twist a few screws, remove the wheel block, insert a new one without any soldering and the robot is like new again.

But I noticed one regularity: if a client is very worried about reliability, asks about the terms of warranty repair 20 times, etc., etc. - something will really happen to him "like evil". As in that joke: "Either the shark will be deaf, or the whistle will not get ...".
Alenka212
Quote: Robo Cop

99.9% of offers from China are fraudulent or an attempt to sell some kind of washer on wheels that vaguely resembles Rumba in shape.
iRobot, like Apple, has very strict control over production and sales. It is impossible even to imagine that part of the party left the factory "to the left".
What do you say to that?
🔗,
🔗

Doesn't it turn out that high-quality, controlled robots are sold to the official. stores, and these in all the rest ?. In general, what is the difference who sells them, the main thing is whether they are of equal quality?
Alenka212
Quote: Robo Cop

if the client is very worried about the reliability, 20 times asks about the conditions of warranty repairs, etc., etc. - something will really happen "like evil" for him.As in that joke: "Either the shark will be deaf, or the whistle will not get ...".
For some reason, when buying another brand (Thomas, Bosch) and not very much (Brand, Redmond) and not at all (Cromach, Tarrington House), I somehow did not think about it. But after focusing on the topic of robots about the quality of Rumb and the poor quality of the rest of the Chinese, I started to think something.

And I want a whistle ...
balabolka
Alenka212I think this is just a reselling of robots. Well, for example, on the same ebay I bought a scuba from an American seller - naturally he bought it in a store and resold it. We can also assume that the Chinese are selling a fake, but somehow I don't want it to be so.
Alenka212
Quote: balabolka

Alenka212, on the same ebee I bought a scuba from an American seller - naturally he bought it in a store and resold it.
Everything is clear in your scheme.

Quote: balabolka
We can also assume that the Chinese are selling a fake, but somehow I don't want it to be so.
So you will think about who they will sell to you in the store ...
balabolka
Alenka212, here the husband said that this is pure fraud. This seller has no reviews and immediately sells a batch of 20 pieces. Such a scam is common with iPhones, so apparently they got to the robots. If interested, I can throw a couple of links in a personal, as on iPhones people ran into the same scammers
Alenka212
Learning light, I want to know how they fool us .... I'm waiting for the link.
Robo-Cop
I repeat once again: it is impossible to buy iRobot products in China. Not only that, all the offers for iRobot on the worldwide ebay marketplace from Chinese sellers have never ended well. I don't understand why to look for Rumba in China at all. They are not in China, as there is no official iRobot store there. There is a factory, but no store.
Robo-Cop
Quote: Alyonka212

Learning light, I want to know how they fool us .... I'm waiting for the link.

Since you mentioned the Radmond Brand, which was included in your list of products with an unquestioning history and reputation, here is a link for you: 🔗
Rita
Robo cop, dreaming is not harmful!
Song
Quote: Alyonka212

For some reason, when buying another brand (Thomas, Bosch) and not very much (Brand, Redmond) and not at all (Cromach, Tarrington House), I somehow did not think about it. But after focusing on the topic of robots about the quality of Rumb and the poor quality of the rest of the Chinese, I started to think something.

And I want a whistle ...
Well, about Rumbah, on the forum, everyone speaks well ... why should you be afraid - take it. And take it from the officials. What is the problem? Everyone who wanted to have taken it long ago. And they rejoice.
simfira
I, too, was tormented, where to buy it, from the officials or not? Then I thought that all my equipment was not bought from the officials, because they are always more expensive and did not bother with it. Still, pah-pah, nothing broke and I have not repaired anything anywhere. I bought it from Robo-Cop with a 1-year guarantee, as I understand it by the "gentleman's word".
The outer box is made in China, the inner box is UK code.
I have small children and I have to vacuum every day, but what was in the container after the first time killed me, some small dust, which you can hardly collect with a vacuum cleaner. In general, very happy, how did I do without him before? Only somehow it seems to me that the charge is not enough for him, today I will note how long it will last
Robo-Cop
Any new equipment based on Ni-MH rechargeable batteries reaches its nominal operating time after 2-3 discharge-charge cycles. We all bought mobile phones and almost everyone knows that after unpacking the mobile phones need to be charged, then completely discharged, then charged again and so on 2-3 times. Each time the battery life increases. This is called exercising or pumping the battery.

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