Bread maker in Panasonic SD-256 (part1)

[Luida]

Luida, here is the instruction -
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=73109.0 .

Good day everyone!
Tell me, has anyone tried to bake Kulich? Share the recipe. My ovens noooo, only hope for a bread maker.

[Mom Hedgehogs (Julia)]

Mom Hedgehogs (Julia)

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it is completely in HP, there are a lot of recipes where baking is already in the oven. pleasant cooking!

made jam (for the first time), bought a plum (imported large) and loaded it into the instructions according to the recipe. It turned out to be something absolutely delicious. Only a little - the output is about 600 grams. Is it possible to do more or the program is designed only for such a quantity of pledged products? And another question: if you bake a cake (kulich) according to the recipe in the instructions, is it tasty?

made jam (for the first time), bought a plum (imported large) and loaded it into the instructions according to the recipe. It turned out to be something absolutely delicious. Only a little - the output is about 600 grams. Is it possible to do more or the program is designed only for such a quantity of pledged products? And another question: if you bake a cake (kulich) according to the recipe in the instructions, is it tasty?

And what does jam look like? For jam or for grandma's? I have never tried it. But we often make cupcakes with children. I like it very much, but a lot depends on flour and oil. I take expensive and tasteless. And then the taste happens sometimes. Fresh berries and chocolate and candied lemon were also added ... They didn't do it with condensed milk, I'm afraid the children will stick together :-)

And what does jam look like? For jam or for grandma's? I have never tried it. But we often make cupcakes with children. I like it very much, but a lot depends on flour and oil. I take expensive and tasteless. And then the taste happens sometimes. Fresh berries and chocolate and candied lemon were also added ... They didn't do it with condensed milk, I'm afraid the children will stick together :-)

Good day!
Please tell me a recipe for a delicious cupcake)))) .. and how to do it with a bread machine ?? .. there is kneading and baking ??? .. thanks!

it turned out to be a natural "grandmother's" jam, and I have not tasted such delicious for a long time. I bought large plums (in Moscow - 114r per kg) chose non-rigid ones. I washed and cut each into 4 slices. 450 grams of plum filled with 450g of granulated sugar and squeezed out the juice of 1 small lemon (20ml) I put the program "jam" and after 1.5 hours the meal is ready. You just need to let it cool and not eat it right away.

Good day!
Please tell me the recipe for a delicious cupcake)))) .. and how to do it with a bread maker ?? .. there is kneading and baking ??? .. thanks!

I made the recipe in the book.
175 g flour
175 sugar. sand (preferably fine white)
175 plums. butter (I put less, maybe a bit fat for me)
Eggs 3 pcs.
Baking powder 1 1/2 tsp
Beat butter and sugar with a mixer, add eggs and beat again until thick, gradually add flour and baking powder. Further options:
1) divide into 2 parts and add cocoa to one part.
2) bake without cocoa.
Put 1 spoonful of white and one black spoon alternately with cocoa in a mold. Or whatever you like.
Bake for 60 minutes. in baking mode

if anyone needs it, in the "Panasonic plaza" store Gorbushkin Dvor there are shovels (stirrers) for rye dough on sale at a price of 240 rubles

I bake bread for about a month, everything turns out well, but soon Easter and bake cake over it. The question is that I could not understand how the Kulich program works. I put the ingredients, set the program Diet Kulich with raisins, after the start time appears on my display at 1.40 and the inscription 5 o'clock disappears somewhere. Is that how it should be ??

made jam (for the first time), bought a plum (imported large) and loaded it into the instructions according to the recipe. It turned out to be something absolutely delicious. Only a little - at the output somewhere around 600 grams.Is it possible to do more or the program is designed only for such a number of pledged products? And another question: if you bake a cake (kulich) according to the recipe in the instructions, is it tasty?

You need to do as indicated in the instructions. If you add more fruit, the jam may spill out of the mold and burn on the heating element.
Cupcake, Easter cake, are very tasty, try it. And there are recipes in the instructions, and there are a lot of good, proven ones here. Take your pick!

The question is that I could not understand how the Kulich program works. I put the ingredients, set the program Diet Kulich with raisins, after the start time appears on my display at 1.40 and the inscription 5 o'clock disappears somewhere. Is that how it should be ??

Inna, what kind of stove do you have? There is no Kulich program in Panasonic. If you, nevertheless, have Panasonic, then the "Diet" mode works for 5 hours. Check carefully which program and mode you are choosing.

Bread maker Panasonic 256, selected program- Diet, mode- Baking with raisins, size- L, ----- the baking time is 5 hours on the display, ------ I start the Start program ---- time appears on the display - 1.40? ? That is how it should be?? And yet there is no movement inside

[Inna]

Inna, now I was not too lazy, went to the kitchen, "woke up" the stove, walked all programs and modes - 1.40 did not find time at all!?! She even launched HP in the program "Diet with raisins", on the scoreboard - 5 hours. Something is not clear where 1.40 could have come from you ...
Immediately there will be no movement, the process of "alignment" is in progress, but the time should be 5 hours on the scoreboard, a gradual decrease in time. After the right time - kneading, then a signal to add raisins (in the 257th - the dispenser is triggered), then proofing and baking. Probably some kind of malfunction in your stove

thanks for your attention to me! Now I checked it step by step, turned it on, chose the program - Diet, mode - Baking with raisins, size - L, ----- the baking time is 5 hours on the display, ------ I start the Start program ---- on the display already 1.17 and the inscription RASIN, there are no others, maybe it is that he marks the time before the raisins get into the dough, and then there will be another disappearance? Or again for repair?

As a result, I was scared to experiment and launched the Main program for 4 hours, since the main parameters are similar, the cake turned out to be beautiful and very high, but the question arose about the serviceability of the bread machine.

I don't even know ... But as far as I remember, there was no such information in the instructions that the stove marks the time before the raisins are "thrown in" (there is one instruction for both models). I baked on this program many times, I was counting down from 5 hours.
Moreover, after the start, you now have a different time, not like the previous time ... It's somehow incomprehensible. I'm afraid this is a mess, how sad it is. Have you used this program before? On other programs, is the time counted as usual? The program "Basic with raisins" was tested, how was it?

I tried the "main raisin" current that I looked at it turned out while I put all the data = main - with raisins - L - time is set 4 hours - then start - and time is 47 minutes !!!!!!
and when baking regular bread, everything happens normally with a countdown.
But I would like to know how the bread maker should work correctly in the Raisin mode.

Yeah ...., you have something "interesting movie"! Maybe tomorrow the owners of your particular model will look here and be able to clarify something. They will tell you how this process is going on. There is a countdown in mine.

that's what it is, as in my main program without raisins everything goes the same way as you do).
But thanks anyway for participating !!!!! I will wait for other instructions)))

Good morning! I'm a newbie. I used the Klatronic bread maker for several years, and yesterday I bought a Panasonic 256 and decided to bake a cake.
I have the same problems as Inna11. I switched on the Basic mode, baking with raisins, the time is 4-00 on the display, then I chose the size M and a light crust, pressed start - on the display 1-40.The oven stood motionless for a long time, then began to knead the dough. When this time ended, the number 2-50 appeared and the machine continued to run. The result is deplorable - the cake was not baked, it did not rise at all! Didn't you hear the signal for adding ingredients? What to do?? Tomorrow we need to bake cakes, the children are waiting! There is no oven, so there is only one hope for a breadmaker! Can you please tell me a proven recipe for a sweet fat cake and a baking mode ??? Well, very much it is necessary!
And I don't really understand the principle of laying food: dry yeast on the bottom, then flour and all dry products, and then liquid. Is the oven heating up and the dry yeast is roasting on the bottom? In the previous oven, everything was the other way around: liquids to the bottom, flour on top and yeast to the very top, the oven heated the liquids, and then kneaded everything.

Everything is fine with you - in the "Basic with raisins" program, at first, the time is set before the filling of ingredients (the same 1:40 for Inna, when less, when more), then the bread maker beeps, but here you have to be on the alert and look at the timer so as not to skip, as it squeaks quietly. Next, the bread maker waits for five minutes for you to put the ingredients, at which time zero on the scoreboard, as far as I remember. Many beginners panic and press to the start, don't do this, throw in the ingredients (the same raisins and so on), and go do your business. At the stove, the display will show the final time until the end of cooking, and everything will be baked normally :-)

Thanks for the answer, reassured! I will try again today! Can someone tell me the recipe?

"The result is deplorable - the cake was not baked, it did not rise at all!"
The bread maker has nothing to do with it - you obviously had a liquid mess instead of a bun. Explore kolobok rule from Adminfollowing it, there will always be good bread! ;-)

"dry yeast to the bottom, then flour and all dry products, and then liquid"
Yes, just such an order is prescribed in Panasonic's instructions.

I'm going to bake Butter cake from Elena Bo, well, they praise him very much :-) For me he will be the first - a beginner himself :-)

Please tell me one more thing: how to look at the bun and control the degree of fry if there is no window in the stove, but the instructions say that the stove cannot be opened ??? Some users write that they got the cake 10 minutes before the end of baking?

I personally understand that you can open the lid before baking. During baking - no, no!
I open it myself during kneading to control the bun. As soon as the kolobok becomes normal, I close the lid and no longer fit.
I also tried to grease the top of the bread with butter and sprinkle with sesame seeds a couple of times in more than an hour to the end - normal, it didn't have a bad effect on the bread.

thanks for your attention to me! Now I checked it step by step, turned it on, chose the program - Diet, mode - Baking with raisins, size - L, ----- the baking time is 5 hours on the display, ------ I start the Start program ---- on the display already 1.17 and the inscription RASIN, there are no others, maybe it is that he marks the time before the raisins get into the dough, and then there will be another disappearance? Or again for repair?

Antonij has already answered, but I will add a little more. If you want to know the time for the main program, click on the "Timer" button, while the display shows the time until the raisins are booked.

Thanks for the help!
There is also one more question: in the recipe book in cupcake mode it is written that you need to lay the paper on the bottom. How to do it? Cut out a square and make a hole in the center for a pin? And the cam that kneads the dough won't wrinkle the paper? And in general, what kind of paper should you lay? I have not seen any special paper in our stores?

[Carmona]

Carmona regular baking paper (sold in rolls as foil). I never used it when baking a cupcake, everything worked out so well.

Thanks to all!!!!! I panicked and did not take risks, went the tried and tested way, set the Main program - Bake mode and baking time 4 hours, and the recipe from the instructions for Kulich with raisins, except for small flaws. then everything worked out well, next time I will add more raisins and sugar, salt and vanillin.

[For butter dough, the kolobok rule does not work!]

The bread maker has nothing to do with it - you obviously had a liquid mess instead of a bun. Explore kolobok rule from Adminfollowing it, there will always be good bread! ;-)

For butter dough, the kolobok rule does not work! It is for ordinary bread dough.
When kneading, the butter dough can be frankly liquidish, hold on to some semblance of a kolobok when the blade rotates, and blur as soon as the mixer stops.

If you add flour to the classic bun, the baking will turn out to be tough.

Look at the Easter cake master classes, there are very good photographs illustrating this moment. For example, Kulich s Myasoedovskaya

For sweet pastries, use the small size and light crust on the main program. The cake dough is soft enough, spreading, due to sugar it can "tan" strongly.

At the start of the 256 model, at the start of "main with raisins", the time before adding raisins is displayed.

[Inna]

Inna, Carmona! Still, it is not in vain that both manufacturers and experienced users strongly recommend that beginners-bakers READ THE INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY!
Models 256 and 257 seem to be practically the same, even the instruction book is the same, but it turned out that there are differences (apart from the dispenser and the rye program). Now I looked at the instructions (yesterday it was not at hand), there is "Russian in white" on page 11 in the section "Adding additional ingredients to bread or dough" the whole process is VERY detailed. In the right column (which refers to your model), the "cloud" is marked with: "After pressing the "start" button, the remaining time before adding the ingredients will be displayed and a beep will sound when finished. Then the time remaining until the completion of the operation will be displayed. "!!!
So your stove was doing everything right! It is very good that the users of your particular model answered. This means that the two models also differ in this, in the 257th there is a dispenser, which itself "throws" additives and the time is displayed as usual, in reverse order. And yours is different.
It's good that we figured it out, now many users will not be afraid of the "incomprehensible behavior" of the timer.

Ready for Easter !!!

Yeast - 2 h \ l
flour - 450 gr
salt - 0.5 h \ l
sugar - 8 tbsp \ l
vanilla sugar - 1 sachet (8 gr)
vegetable oil (refined) - 6 tbsp \ l
beat eggs - 3 pcs.
water - 150 ml.
raisins - to taste (I put 2 handfuls + chopped 2 prunes and 2 dried apricots) after the HP signal.

Basic program with raisins (BAKE RAISIN), size M, light crust

Glaze - it couldn't be easier. Powdered sugar (4 tbsp / l) and squeezing a lemon into it, stir until creamy. Well, on top, of course, powder.

Output - 1.083 kg.

[Davli]

There is also one more question: in the recipe book in cupcake mode it is written that you need to lay the paper on the bottom. How to do it? Cut out a square and make a hole in the center for a pin? And the cam that kneads the dough won't wrinkle the paper? :

Our oven does not have a specific "Cupcake" mode and, you can notice that in the book recipe only the "Baking" mode is used, and the dough is prepared outside the bread machine with a mixer or something else. So you don't need to put a spatula at all.

And in general, what kind of paper should you lay? I have not seen any special paper in our stores?

Somewhere on the forum, in general, the need for this very paper was strongly doubted ... 🔗 (that's Davli confirms)

Ready for Easter !!!

Class !!!

Good evening everyone !!! Need some advice !!! Can I take a diet bread recipe and bake on a quick bake ???

Thanks for the help!
There is also one more question: in the recipe book in cupcake mode it is written that you need to lay the paper on the bottom. How to do it? Cut out a square and make a hole in the center for a pin? And the cam that kneads the dough won't wrinkle the paper? And in general, what kind of paper should you lay? I have not seen any special paper in our stores?

Sold "baking paper", white or brown, used in the oven. It happens in hardware and grocery stores, it is inexpensive. Just line the bottom and sides of the form (of course, there will be folds at the corners).Sweet bread quickly "tans", and that's why they put paper. Remove the stirrer; it is not needed in the "baking" mode. But try to bake once without paper, it is possible that you will not need it, many do not use it.

Good evening everyone !!! Need some advice !!! Can I take a diet bread recipe and bake on a quick bake ???

Recipes for "quick baking" differ, in fact, only in the amount of yeast. In the "fast" mode, more of them are put so that they have time to work and raise the dough in a shorter period of time than in the full mode.

The milk bread recipe worked great! I want to bake a cake with raisins! The recipe is written in the diet section! But 5 hours is very long !!!

I would not recommend using a "fast" program at all. It can be used only in extreme cases, when you really need to get bread urgently.

For the normal correct maturation of the dough, all the necessary biochemical processes take time. If these processes do not work in the dough, you will receive not bread, but a surrogate.

The deterioration in the quality of factory bread in recent years is precisely due to the accelerated production of bread.

For baking, an accelerated program is all the more unacceptable. You will get nothing more than a sweet roll of not very good quality

[Condensed milk]

Condensed milk 4 hours and the key in your pocket. At the moment I have a second one. In 1.5 hours it will be ready!

And my first cake was burnt - well, the sides are very dark, and the roof is cracked. For the second cake after kneading, I will lay paper.

And my first cake was burnt - well, the sides are very dark, and the roof is cracked. For the second cake after kneading, I will lay paper.

Can you lay paper on Teflon? It should not heat up without contact with the product, as it overheats and releases toxins. Maybe try to bake on the usual (NOT raisins) mode with a light crust, and add raisins in between batches? It doesn't burn like that. And the roof cracked from the excess of flour - a little more liquid is needed in the dough for the cake than for the bread.

And one more..



The glaze, in contrast to the first, was whipped with a mixer, and everything is the same.

Can you lay paper on Teflon? It should not heat up without contact with the product, as it overheats and releases toxins. Maybe try to bake on the usual (NOT raisins) mode with a light crust, and add raisins in between batches? It doesn't burn like that. And the roof cracked from the excess of flour - a little more liquid is needed in the dough for the cake than for the bread.

If carefully laid out, then even in the area of ​​the formed voids, the form will not heat up above 200 ° C simply due to the redistribution of heat. In addition, places where more intense heating occurs (the shadow passes - these are smooth walls, where it is enough just to carefully line the paper.

Can you lay paper on Teflon? It should not heat up without contact with the product, as it overheats and releases toxins. Maybe try to bake on the usual (NOT raisins) mode with a light crust, and add raisins in between batches? It doesn't burn like that. And the roof cracked from the excess flour - a little more liquid is needed in the dough for the cake than for the bread.

In the instructions for the oven in the recipes for muffins (page 23) it is directly written "line the baking dish with baking paper and put the mixture there."
And if I understood correctly according to the recipe, the liquid in the cake can be said to not go at all (50 ml of citrus juice)

And if I understood correctly according to the recipe, I can say that liquid does not go into the cake at all (50 ml of citrus juice)

It looks like there is a mistake. I corrected the juice for 150 ml in the instructions. I don't remember where and when I read about it, but definitely not from my head.

In general, I do not advise you to bake butter Easter cake - I made two Easter cakes, both did not rise and both of them cracked the roof. I don't know how to taste, I haven't tried it I will try to bake the last one, The Most Delicious - here Alef does great :-)

I will try to bake the last one, The Most Delicious - here Alef does great :-)

I also started now according to his recipe. Only instead of "vanilla sugar 1 pack 8g" (not on sale), I put "crystalline vanillin 1 pack 1.5g".

My butter cake didn't work either! Poorly rose, I haven't tasted it yet. I read another proven recipe, tried it, it turned out to be a beautiful cake. I decided to bake another one of the same and already a failure: the cake was not baked, and when I shook it out, at the corners and at the bottom there was a thick layer of flour mixed with dry yeast. What could be the reason?