Sens
Quote: Marihuna

Thank you very much! I was just rushing between these two devices. However, there is hope that there will be an opportunity to get Tefal Actifry 2 in1. There, the volume of the main bowl is slightly larger - 1.5 kg of potatoes. ........
and how else does Tefal Actifry 2 in1 differ from the usual one?

at the university do you want to buy? 🔗
YanOchka-
Quote: Marihuna

By the way, doesn't the fact that cooking in Aktifri takes so long to annoy you?

There are not many, but I chose a first-grader for my son, so that he would cook and see the process myself, but in Phillips you have to get it out and shake it, and the bowl is hot ..

Quote: Marihuna

Yesterday I saw Philips HD9240 / 90.
The only thing that can be guessed about is that dishes are cooked in it faster than in Aktifri (judging by its much higher power).

It is a fact. If only it was possible to connect them according to their functions. The speed of cooking and the presence of a timer from Phillips, and everything else from Aktifri.

Quote: Marihuna

As for the usual Actifry ... On sale there are deep fryers with both a regular bowl and an enlarged Actifry Famyli. So for a large family in general the very thing.

Similar to a multi-air grill with a stirrer. Do not indicate the volume inside under the flask, is it possible to make a whole chicken in it, I wonder?
Marihuna
Quote: Sens

and how else does Tefal Actifry 2 in1 differ from the usual one?

at the university do you want to buy? 🔗

Today I looked at the link and thought .... It turns out cheaper than I expected ... I was promised from Romania to bring it to Moldova, and then I would have transported it to Moscow. But the price is initially higher and there may be problems with customs (3 customs go through). I'm sitting here, I think.
It's just that the above service is not familiar to me. How long will the goods go to Moscow?

As I understand it differs from the usual one in a slightly larger volume, a second level and a little more power. Well, as it seems to me, in this model, God himself ordered the problem with the timer to be finalized so that the device would turn itself off. Judging by the video, there is a vague hope for this.
A question to connoisseurs of both Aktifri and AF Philips, discussed on the next branch, is the taste of the dishes different? Where meat and potatoes and other delights (cutlets, etc.) are tastier?
Only today I have mastered the 186 page forum completely and I am, to put it mildly, in meditation - everything is too tasty and juicy for everyone. About Aktifri such a plan of reviews and explosions of delight, I almost did not see. On the contrary, today I read the beginning of the forum again - many wrote that there are practically no differences with an ordinary frying pan and the dishes are not so juicy.
Well, and, accordingly, Aktifri was considered a useless device. While on the next branch, everyone, on the contrary, has cleared up their pans and groaned with delight ...

I sit and think, can I look in the direction of the new Phillips deep fryer (with electronic control and an enlarged bowl)? The only thing that so far bribes Aktifri 2 in 1 is the increased volume. No Philips in this regard can compare with her.
If the dishes practically do not differ in taste, I will take Tefal, but if there is still a difference and not in the direction of the latter, then I will take Philips.
YanOchka-
You just force me to go and fry the chicken legs in it tomorrow, for the purpose of experiment, and at the same time compare it with Phillips and the airfryer. While the opportunity is there.
Marihuna
I would be extremely grateful if you could bring a practical comparison with Phillips. As it is dismissive on the next branch to Aktifri they say that if it was not much tastier, no one would have taken Phillips ...
Sens
Quote: Marihuna


It's just that the above service is not familiar to me. How long will the goods go to Moscow?
about a month

buy whichever you like more of these two! you will learn to cook deliciously on any of them!
julifera
I read from the side - Marihuna - it is immediately clear that you have fallen for Tefal Akifrai Family - so take him, he is more in line with your priorities.
Sens wrote correctly - it will come out tasty both there and there
Marihuna
nooo ... Your conclusions are wrong. I don't even think about Fameli. Just a friend takes Aktifray 2 in1. Right here 🔗 and there and then there is practically for one price this 🔗.
And there is an opportunity at the same time to grab the device for me.
I choose between the two. On the one hand, the friend is categorical in her choice and, besides Aktifray, does not even want to read about anything else. On the contrary, I first read and then choose ... Hence the doubts ... I will no longer have the opportunity to bring another similar AF, but I'm afraid I will regret that Phillips did not buy it. But there may be a reverse situation - I will envy my friend :)))

Hence all the questions about what and how. There is simply very little information about Aktifray, and even more so about the 2 in 1 model.

Yesterday I found a comparison, if anyone is interested It seems that here, as I understood, Phillips "did" everyone. True, I literally did not understand everything (there was no harmony with English), but the ending there is more than obvious ...

Hence the desire to hear if there is a real difference in taste.
Vei
Oh, Marihuna, I read your torment-doubts and understand that if I needed a larger volume, then I would take two AF Philips. Because I could not mature for it for a long time, but when I bought it and tried the result, it impressed me so much that I then ran around with sausage all over Moscow in search of the last copies for my mother.
Sometimes I cook several bookmarks, which in the end does not turn out faster in time than in other devices, but the taste (!!!!) cannot be compared either with AG, let alone a frying pan or just an oven.
AF, due to very fast heating, immediately creates a crust on the meat, from this all the juices are sealed, and the meat turns out to be unusually juicy.
julifera
Quote: Marihuna

As it is dismissive on the next branch to Aktifri they say that if it was not much tastier, no one would have taken Phillips ...

Quote: Marihuna

nooo ... Your conclusions are wrong. I don't even think about Fameli.

Then I just can't understand you
In the AF thread, the girls have already written - if it weren't so tasty, there wouldn't be such massive positive reviews and mountains of pages of delight.

And if 2 people tell you - "oh, but it is tastier in Aktifray" - buy it?
I would not buy, I want a second AF-ku
Marihuna
Almost convinced :) on AF ... But there is no information about new devices ... Especially on Philips. What if it's not quite what it was? The last worm gnaws that a friend will have tefal ... I would like, to be honest, this and that ... From greed .. But, again, one of the devices will be in the pantry as a result ... The only question is what? Most likely Tefal ...

Okay ... I have a few more days to "think" ...
Marihuna
Girls, today I watched the video clip Aktifri 2 in 1, I understand that this is not really your device, but there are nuances - the cook turned over the steaks in the cooking process. There they had the bottom fried, and the top was generally raw. Question. If you remove the stirrer in your device and put in the steaks ... will they need to be turned over?

Somewhere I saw a mention here that the cutlets come out fried on one side, but did not pay attention to it ... That is, if we cook something without a stirrer, then one side will not be fried? Which side is up or down?
kavilter
I also choose between phillips and tefal. But I like tefal more - the volume is more (when they knock at the table with spoons, run and load and wait for more)
Marihuna
If we talk about the old Phillips, then I agree with the fact that the volume is too small ... BUT The new one is advertised for 1.2 kg of potatoes ... So he has already caught up with the usual Aktifri ... And if you read the next branch ... more and more ...
And yet ... Maybe someone will test both units?
Surprisingly, in the German test, Aktifree beat Phillips, albeit by a small margin ... 🔗
kavilter
So Tefal Femili - 1.5 kg
Marihuna
To be honest, it seems to me that the real volume of potatoes will still be less than 1.5 or 1.2 kg ...The difference is exactly 1 serving. It is not the volume that is interesting here, but the taste, cooking time, ease of use, and various other nuances.

By the way, owners of aktifri, do you smell when cooking? Well, does the device not smoke when you cook something fat in it?
YanOchka-
Quote: Marihuna
Here it is not the volume that is interesting, but the taste, cooking time, ease of use, and various other nuances.

By the way, owners of aktifri, do you smell when cooking? Well, does the device not smoke when you cook something fat in it?

No, there is no child. Excess hot air comes out of the gap in the lid. if you smell it, you can distinguish the dish being cooked. No more.
The taste in air fryers is the same, they are the same devices for their intended purpose, but in comparison with an airfryer (AG), in the latter it turns out to be dry. read the twig in
Forum | KITCHEN AND HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES | Deep Fryer | Answer (Air Fryer) I’ll find how to insert a link to a topic, insert it, but for now watch an excerpt from that topic. Maybe you can read something useful.
Quote: Stafa

I will say from my lazy position. I have both AG and AF. In fact, these are almost the same devices.
....
2. Further, in AF it is getting ready 2 times faster almost from the AG. Due to this, the dish is juicier on the inside, toasty on the outside. See Tanyulya's photos, everything is always so beautiful, but it tastes.
YanOchka-
Quote: Marihuna

... That is, if we cook something without a stirrer, then one side will not be fried? Which side is up or down?
Bottom, after all, it lies on the bottom of the pan, but if you raise the cutlets on the wire rack, there will be airflow from the bottom, it will turn out like in Phillips. There is a mesh bowl. You can adapt the grill from the microwave, only make the legs shorter, like Phillips. Only Tefal also knows how to interfere
Marihuna
Yes, but if I am not mistaken (and perhaps I am wrong) the temperature in Aktifri is only 150 degrees. And you cannot change it. Hence the long cooking time. In Philips, the temperature is up to 200 degrees. And it changes ... In general, I think so far ... Tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, you need to order already, but I still have not decided :(
YanOchka-
It's true about the temperature, you can't change it. This is where you need to prioritize. Tefal fries evenly at lower T. (we take potatoes, as the main thing for which it is intended), and Phillips, at higher T., the edges of the potatoes are fried until crisp. ... It was decisive for ME. My homemade BIG fried potato lovers, but to stand, to interfere is dismiss. I had to take care of my beloved myself, Tefaly.
But Phil cooks meat faster. You should rent a unit from a friend, drive it for a couple of days, and then read the branch on it again. Read all comments more meaningfully, and then read another thread. The choice will become easier. It would be nice to test another device myself. Take someone from, or come to visit and see, try. I also chose this, in the end I took Tefal, it is more convenient for me on it. But I had something to compare with and I do not regret it. The only thing is, if there were a smaller family, 3-4 people, then it would be possible to take Filia, but so ...
Will you decide for yourself what will be cooked more often, meat or potatoes? Croutons in Tefalka are more even, seeds, nuts, do not come up at all, it is done by itself. Filya can't do that. Dry the mushrooms-fruits-Tefal, you can slightly open the lid for it (until it is turned off) so that the hot air comes out faster and there is no condensation-steam (we don't cook, we dry). And Filia will turn off a little, he does not cook in a half-extended bowl. In addition, in Tefali you can cook meat (and not only) with gravy, the stirrer at the attachment point to the pan has a rubber suction ring that does not allow liquid to pass through. Philips is more like a mini oven with a fan. And Tefal in a frying pan in the oven, with a fan and a stirrer.
My experiment with fried chicken legs in different air fryers and airfryer at the same time is postponed for 2 weeks, due to the circumstances of the person with whom we will test,
sima12
Quote: YanOchka-

... AFilya will turn off a little, he does not cook in a half-extended bowl.
And not true! Filia does not turn off with extended or removed bowl. Continues to warm and blow.
julifera
Quote: Marihuna

I was just rushing between these two devices. However, there is hope that there will be an opportunity to get Tefal Actifry 2 in1. There, the volume of the main bowl is slightly larger - 1.5 kg of potatoes.

I misunderstood something because of this message. Marihuna - I read that Aktifray is 2 in 1 for 1.5 kg, and it seemed that this is the same as Family

And there are many types of AktiFray:

Deep fryer Tefal ActiFry

Tefal YV9601 Actifry 2in1 (1.0 kg)
Tefal AH9002 Actifry Family (1.5 kg)
Tefal GH 8002 Actifry Plus Fritteuse (1.2 kg)
Tefal FZ7070 Actifry Snacking (1.0 kg)
Tefal Actifry FZ 7000 Fritteuse (1.0 kg) (those that have reached us alive)
YanOchka-
Quote: sima12

And not true! Filya does not switch off with extended or even removed bowl. Continues to warm and blow.
Does cooking or drying continue only in the part that is inside, or evenly and in the one that is extended?
YanOchka-
By the way, new models have a function auto shutdown, after the specified time.
But it is necessary to clarify which one.
sima12
Quote: YanOchka-

Does cooking or drying continue only in the part that is inside, or evenly and in the one that is extended?
I haven't tried it, I don't know. I know it just doesn't go off. Logically, if you put the bowl on the floor of the case, then naturally this half will not fulfill its function 100%, and if you open it a little, then why not. Although I never needed to do this.
julifera
In Phillips, there is generally no particular need to drive the device with the basket extended - the air is blown from all sides, there is no condensation, the temperature is regulated - what else is needed for just drying, that is, I consider this issue to be not a critical difference.
I would, of course, buy Aktifraychka for pampering, but there is nowhere to pamper, it takes up a lot of space.
Marihuna
If there was an opportunity to test at least one of the units, I would have decided long ago ... Now I am in limbo - and crackers with nuts are needed and meat is juicier and faster too :(
There is no place in my kitchen, I would take both devices, and then I would decide what is more necessary .. We have a family of 3 BIG people who love delicious food ... Sometimes mom comes in ...
Regarding Aktifray 2 in 1 - on the sites they write a different volume - someone is 1.5 kg, someone is 1 kg ... It is also not clear ...

Now, in general, I came to the conclusion that it is probably necessary, if possible, to take both units and already at home to be determined ... If I will post something "extra" on Avito. All the same, for the price for which I will buy here neither the new Philips nor the new Aktifray 2 in 1. Maybe someone will need it?

By the way, the new Philips is also no longer small - it is equal in size to Tefalka. Previously, of course, the difference was palpable ...
Vei
That's right, the new Philips is not inferior in volume to Tefalka, but in all other respects it wins, I disagree with the fact that Filya cooks meat better than potatoes or crackers, he does everything equally tasty, just awesome! But selling Aktifray on Avito for its price is unlikely to work
It seems to me that Aerofray from Hotter is a real and objective competitor to Tefal. There you get a full-fledged airfryer, with a metal frying pan, a removable stirrer and the ability to insert an additional ring to increase the volume. Such a unit is interesting, given the full range of capabilities of a good AG from Hotter (change, temperatures, timer, self-cleaning, auto-programs and everything else that Hotter offers). The price is the same segment as Tefal.
So if you really want a mixer, then Aerofray from Hotter is better.
But it still will not replace the super AF from Philips, especially the large volume, all IMHO, of course
Exocat
Quote: Marihuna

But the price is initially higher and there may be problems with customs (3 customs go through). I'm sitting here, I think.
It's just that the above service is not familiar to me. How long will the goods go to Moscow?
from 14 days to 2 months, depending on the workload of the customs.
I ordered three parcels of an ice cream maker and two vacuum cleaners, I also added an egg cooker, a waffle iron, a water filter, an electric filter to them. All these devices came in complete safety. Now I have a coffee maker and a millstone coffee grinder going from there.
Marihuna
Exocat, thanks. And when ordering several devices, how is the shipping cost calculated? While it costs 26 euros. For one device.And how much will it cost when ordering, for example, a vacuum cleaner and a coffee maker? Now it is proposed to pay for the order with a bank card and the type of money is reserved. But I look at the delivery cost, it has not changed. Then you won't have to pay extra? The weight has changed significantly ...
And how is the delivery (Moscow) carried out? DHL is clear in Germany. And in Russia, just our usual soviet mail with receipt in one of the offices?
And the last question that I do not understand (all the time I made orders with EMS delivery) there will be no surcharges upon receipt at the post office? And where do you need to check the safety of the package attachment (chips, cracks, etc.) - right at the post office?
Lyi
Quote: Marihuna

Exocat, thanks. And when ordering several devices, how is the shipping cost calculated? While it costs 26 euros. For one device. And how much will it cost when ordering, for example, a vacuum cleaner and a coffee maker? Now it is proposed to pay for the order with a bank card and the type of money is reserved. But I look at the delivery cost, it has not changed. Then you won't have to pay extra? The weight has changed significantly ...
And how is the delivery (Moscow) carried out? DHL is clear in Germany. And in Russia, just our usual soviet mail with receipt in one of the offices?
And the last question that I do not understand (all the time I made orders with EMS delivery) there will be no surcharges upon receipt at the post office? And where do you need to check the safety of the package attachment (chips, cracks, etc.) - right at the post office?
I am not Exocat, but I will try to answer while she is absent, since I have already received 3 parcels of 20 kg each.
In this store, it is convenient to collect the maximum amount of goods - 20 kg, since for one product it takes about 26 euros, and for all goods the 1st and all subsequent ones weighing up to 20 kg, the delivery cost is within 30 euros, that is, 1200- 1300 RUB No additional sums will be taken from you.
The store packs all the goods wonderfully. I had no complaints. Although in each invoice they ask to pay attention to the safety of the packaging upon receipt of the goods. If its integrity is violated, be sure to inform them.
But in general, according to postal rules, unpacking must be done by mail. See for yourself. I unpacked two parcels at home, the third near the car, since it was agromed and did not fit either in the trunk or in the back seat. Everything went well for me. TTT.
I advise you to collect even more goods.
Good luck!
Marihuna
Girls thank you all very much! I ordered Philips from the above service. Wait a lot more, since the item is still in the order. I hope everything will be fine with delivery and the device will delight me as much as your air fryers do you. If possible, I will write off my first impressions.
Northern i
Still, you made a choice in favor of Filipka?
I, too, looked in the direction of Aktifray, looked ... In the end I did not dare And then the child eventually contrived to buy AF in St. Petersburg, well, so be it
But why am I now a Hotter, which is with the AF function, studying? Eh, device addiction is contagious, it turns out!
Marihuna
I made a choice, but now it is exactly the same as you are studying the above described Hotter with a stirrer :) While I read about it, and then we will see. And Phillips chose because it's just this year's model (well, maybe the end of 2012). And Tefalka 2 in 1 has been on the market for a long time ... Well, the form factor of Philips is still somehow more careful (although he seems to be healthy too). By the way, I looked closely at the video in the new Philips bowl on a metal "sled" - that is, it will not fall a priori.
In general, my daughter, of course, stood up for Tefal - there the potatoes on the video turned out to be painfully beautiful :) BUT my friend turned out to be Phillips and of course she immediately jumped into that "camp" - she really wanted to keep up with her friend
Now we look forward to Filipka ...
Exocat
Quote: Lyi

I am not Exocat, but I will try to answer while she is absent, since I have already received 3 parcels of 20 kg each.
In this store, it is convenient to collect the maximum amount of goods - 20 kg, since for one product it takes about 26 euros, and for all goods the 1st and all subsequent ones weighing up to 20 kg, the delivery cost is within 30 euros, that is, 1200- 1300 RUB No additional sums will be taken from you.
The store packs all the goods wonderfully. I had no complaints. Although in each invoice they ask to pay attention to the safety of the packaging upon receipt of the goods. If its integrity is violated, be sure to inform them.
But in general, according to postal rules, unpacking must be done by mail. See for yourself. I unpacked two parcels at home, the third near the car, since it was agromed and did not fit either in the trunk or in the back seat. Everything went well for me. TTT.
I advise you to collect even more goods.
Good luck!
I completely agree, I will only add, right now is a fertile time for orders, after the summer holidays, the customs office is empty, I ordered a steam cleaner, a coffee maker and a coffee grinder on August 21, and a couple more lotions for the devices already received, chose all 20 kg, received this parcel on August 31. A record, but at the end of September this lafa will end, orders for Christmas gifts will begin and 2 months of waiting will return.
Light
So I got Akti Fry.
Compared with Filippok, it seemed to me that the volume for a family of three is not enough! I talked to a colleague - the owner of Phillips and gave up the idea of ​​buying it ...
Tefalki's first test took place today. The result is pleasing. I will master!
Meggi
Quote: Light

So I got Akti Fry.
Compared with Filippok, it seemed to me that the volume for a family of three is not enough! I talked to a colleague - the owner of Phillips and gave up the idea of ​​buying it ...
Tefalki's first test took place today. The result is pleasing. I will master!
and what a colleague said, share plz
maybe we will change our minds in favor of Tefal
Light
Quote: Meggi

and what a colleague said, share plz
maybe we will change our minds in favor of Tefal
She doesn’t like the need to shake the product in the AF and strains to wash the tray after cooking ...
Meggi
Tell me, does Akti Fry automatically turn off at the end of work or what?
Light
Quote: Meggi

Tell me, does Akti Fry automatically turn off at the end of work or what?
no, it does not turn off itself! You need to force it off. The timer beeps that the time has expired, but the machine works until you turn off ...
julifera
Quote: Light

no, it does not turn off itself! You need to force it off

This, of course, is treated with an expensive electronic timer socket, but it is somehow undignified for such a price - there is a peep, but no shutdown. This is forgivable for a 20-30 bucks slow cooker, but not very much for such a device.
YanOchka-
For yours, the cost of an outlet is about 4 hryvnia, I took it for 190 rubles. New models turn off by themselves. But in general, I agree with you, Tefal at this moment did not "think about us."
foxtrader
Quote: Hairpin

More than five years have passed ... FoxTrader, which inadvertently spawned the confectionery direction, has not appeared on the forum for more than two years ... That mysterious deep fryer has not only appeared, but is almost out of production ... Everything flows ... everything changes ...

FoxTrader!!! OUCH !!! Almost a week later, completely unexpected for me, they will give me a Tefal FZ 7000 ... And you won't know about it ...
Hairpin, you moved me to tears. Maybe a little late, but still I now know that you have this deep fryer! Congratulations. Hope you still like her. So I saw her yesterday in the closet and took out. I will revive. Now I re-read you and decided to take a chance. I still feel sorry for the money spent on it I must still somehow recapture the loot
E.V.A.75
Great thing, I am very pleased with it.
Light
in my example, and the neighbor bought this device. He uses it constantly! neither I nor she at all regret it! very helpful! Especially if you need to cook quickly and urgently!
vit5041
Not least thanks to this forum, I bought a Tefal Actifry 2in1 deep fryer, I have been using it for 3 days, the flight is normal.

First impressions:

1) French fries, as in McDonald's, do not work out in it - nevertheless, this requires an ordinary deep fryer with a liter of boiling oil.
I tried to cut ordinary potatoes into strips - it turns out fried but not crispy
I tried semi-finished - this one turns out to be crispy, but very dry, it is difficult to prick onto a fork.

2) nevertheless, I am very pleased with the device. "bachelor pan" - as I read somewhere.
Chip "2 in 1" - allows you to cook a side dish (potatoes) at the bottom and fish-chicken at the top in one sitting.
Pieces of salmon along with potatoes - it turned out not bad. But the beef steak didn't come out, cooked of course, but not at all as it should. Semi-fried juicy steak will not work in this device.

But frying a steak is not a problem: 2-3 minutes on each side in a regular grooved steak pan, hot - then there will be frying outside and pink juicy meat inside - it is done in 5 minutes while the potatoes are fried.

To summarize:
Cooking potatoes is a real pleasure, I cut it, threw it, I forgot it. In half an hour we have a great fried potato. In the "2 in 1" model, it is easy to cook chicken and fish together with potatoes - you get a complete dish.

After cooking, all the dirty parts of the device are removed and washed in the dishwasher.

By the way, this model turns itself off by a timer.

This is what potatoes with onions look like (I did it for the first time, at the same time I realized that it is better to throw onions 5 minutes later than potatoes so that it does not burn):
Deep fryer Tefal ActiFry
AlisaG
Oh, and I have bad memories of this device. At first I was just fascinated. But after a while, I began to observe that the plastic melted inside, right closer to the loops on which the lid was attached. In one day, I somehow made two portions of potatoes in a row, and plastic dripped inside. It's a pity, awful, it was very convenient, I threw in the food, and they fry themselves! Maybe they've improved something now, I took it a few years ago, as soon as they appeared on sale, from the first batch ...
quince
I had this device. I sold it and I'm happy. Did not go. We don't like fried potatoes that much. If you have a slow cooker, you can donate everything there as well, and no more oil goes away.
Kestrel
Girls, tell me who thinks what timer (NOT a delay, but a cooking time) in the aerofray NEEDED - I choose an inexpensive analog of tefalka - options for setting a maximum cooking time of 1 hour; \ 99 min; \ 24 hours; accordingly, the price is ascending (these are 3 different devices), the functionality is about the same. Aa, a device with a timer of 99 minutes has 2 blowing speeds.
Do you even need a timer for 24 hours, what is there to cook for a day - to interfere? Or "let it be"? Who uses what time most often? Maybe, for example, rarely, but 24 hours are needed, for any delights Nuuu, maybe not 24, but 6-8

PS
I just thought - is it possible to make fried onions in such devices with stirrers? What do you think? I would only take it because of this, we love.
slk
Tell me where to download the book of recipes for ActiFry in Russian?

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