Natalia K.
Quote: Masinen
Don't worry, she just wrote a little roughly)
Well, neither she nor her mother-in-law liked the harvester.
Masinen, Mashun yes, I'm not worried. As it is not a habit to take offense at people, especially at rude ones.
As for me, there is no mother-in-law, not a combine. Someone probably offended her, so she decided to win back on the forum.
Quote: Masinen
The main thing is that you are all ok and you are all happy.
Yes Mashun is the most important thing. Not everyone succeeds in making friends with the technique the first time. I also had a lot of troubles with technology (I'm not talking about a kneader) here love at first sight. But nowhere did I write that this was bullshit and how you can admire someone else that I don't like.
Quote: Masinen
Vaughn, Rita is selling her Ken)
Yeah Mash saw what she was selling.
Masinen
Natasha, you know, how many rude reviews and just negative reviews about Shteba were in my section, a bunch!
We've just gone about the grills, loaded them straight.
Well, what to do, it also happens)
Here, as they say, you can't guess))
Rituslya
Eh ... I sell, I sell, but it's a pity to sell. I climbed to see how much the bowl costs to him, and it costs almost as much as I sell it for.
If I had a kitchen-studio about 50 meters away. Then I would put all my art on the countertop and admire it. Lyapota!
Natalia K.
Quote: Masinen
We've just gone about the grills, loaded them straight.
Yeah Mash read what they write about the cover.
Quote: Masinen
you can't guess
And we Mashun and will not guess, but we will continue to praise our devices that we like. And let the whole world wait
Quote: Rituslya
If I had a kitchen-studio 50 meters
Oh Ritus, this is probably not a sales dream of any bread-maker, to have a kitchen-studio and more
I want one too
GriNata
Ladies, what are you all so close to my heart !!!!
I am sitting in the bushes, reading ...
In general, you are all happy people, you have an interest in something new and not mastered, you share your impressions (by the way, very informative and useful for me).
I do not even doubt that all of you have lights burning in your eyes, so do not let them go out, continue to study and share your impressions !!!
Song
Quote: Rituslya
If I had a kitchen-studio about 50 meters away. Then I would put all my art on the countertop and admire it.
PPKS
Sergey_A
Quote: natalisha_31
Quote: Rituslya from Yesterday at 11:18 pm
Let the bowl make some kind of narrow
Ritus, here I am of the same opinion. It was not even bad if they released an additional bowl.
And you get together with a company of those in need and tell the manufacturer to produce different bowls for units. Maybe they will understand and appreciate, and do a little thing.
Natalia K.
Sergei, ordinary bowls as all spare parts are on sale. And for a narrow one, I have not yet come up with what it would fit. Although, in principle, an ordinary cup will fit me.
Sergey_A
Quote: natalisha_31
And for a narrow one, I have not yet come up with what it would fit.
How for what ?! For 1 egg (yolk, protein). Take an example from those who need it. And at the same time you learn the recipe with a beaten egg in the dough. Then share with us.
Smoke
Quote: Sergey_A

Take an example from those who need it. And at the same time you learn the recipe with a beaten egg in the dough.

And while you, Sergei, make fun of those who need it, here's a recipe for you, for example. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=426923.0

Here, depending on the portion, you may need less than one egg !!! And according to the recipe you need to BEAT VERY WELL ....
gala10
Zhenechka, in this recipe, after all, not one egg, but at least five. And you need to beat them not to hard peaks. And not necessarily a powerful Boman, there are blenders for this. Although, of course, KitchenAde can also be used to drive nails ... The owner, as they say, is a master ...
Sergey_A
Quote: Haze

And while you, Sergei, make fun of those who need it, here's a recipe for you, for example. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=426923.0

Here, depending on the portion, you may need less than one egg !!! And according to the recipe you need to BEAT VERY WELL ....
I looked, I was not too lazy. Again, I did not understand whether I was expressing my thoughts correctly or not. I didn't understand because I didn't even find flour in this recipe. It turns out that the dough is any mess? Even thoroughly mixed minced meat is also a dough? For some reason, they answer me based on any one chosen at their discretion or the first word in my sentence. Even without paying attention to the selection. But I emphasize that exactly I want to say.
Additive: even I am not a cook, an amateur understands that there is no point in beating an egg for TEST, since any quality of a BEATED egg will disappear in the TEST.
Natalia K.
Smoke-Evgeniya, and where can I get the recipe for the cake that you baked? Please throw a link.
Zhen, and Zhen have you already decided what kind of harvester you want? Well I ask this for the sake of idle curiosity
Natalia K.
Quote: Sergey_A
Take an example from those who need it.
Well, I'll take an example from myself, since I love testing a new-donated technique. Now, while I was kneading the dough, I just thought that I didn't need a narrow bowl. My own cup from Bomann suits me. But I would like, of course, that there were two bowls, and not one
Sergey_A
Quote: natalisha_31
I don't need a narrow bowl.
Me too. But I'm ready to accomplish the feat and subscribe to a narrow bowl to help someone. (It will do for me for a beer or I will put something in it). *
Smoke
Quote: gala10

Zhenechka, in this recipe, after all, not one egg, but at least five. And you need to beat them not to hard peaks. And not necessarily a powerful Boman, there are blenders for this. Although, of course, KitchenAde can also be used to drive nails ... The owner, as they say, is a master ...

Checkmark, the recipe does not indicate the number of eggs, but grams. Here is a quote from the author in one of the answers: "I checked it again - everything is correct. I got into a 1982 book - there, in a casserole without raisins for 140 g of cottage cheese, 4 g of eggs. That is, for 1.4 kg of cottage cheese, 1 egg of category C2."

So I even needed a little less than one egg for my amount of cottage cheese ...

Quote: natalisha_31

Smoke-Evgeniya, and where can I get the recipe for the cupcake that you baked? Please throw a link.
Zhen, and Zhen have you already decided what kind of harvester you want? Well I ask this for the sake of idle curiosity

Here is: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=171807.0
And I haven't decided on the combine yet ...
Sergey_A
For those who dream to add 1 WHIPPED egg in dough opinion of the person who checked:

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=171807.0

Suliko
Does anyone have a model 379 with heating?
tany81
Quote: Suliko
Does anyone have a model 379 with heating?
I have a similar clatronic km 3476
Suliko
tany81, and how do you like this model? Works?
tany81
Didn't see your question. I have it for a couple of weeks. I have never had such a technique. I have been using Brown Multicwick for 7-8 years only. I haven’t done the test before, I wanted to, but I can’t knead it normally, and from a bad test the result is such that it’s not worth starting. I am writing my impressions from these positions. And yet, I bought it as a kitchen machine, a budget analogue of the Kenwoods in terms of the functions that it has. So...
I pressed the whisk three times to lower it. As a result, one protein is missing and cannot beat, two proteins are beaten amazingly, I have not seen this. There was flattery, why use such a technique on one protein, why beat hard. I explain my position. I have no other equipment, and there is no place to store it, so I wanted a universal machine that stands on the table, is used as much as possible, there is no need to climb anywhere for it. And I can't beat it with my hands. I would like to try to make a biscuit according to different recipes in order to understand which one I like best. I use the minimum amount for the sample. I made a classic sponge cake according to a local master class, there the squirrels must be beaten hard, I won't do that myself, I'm happy with the result.
I made a dough for ciabatta, it is thin. Added liquid to dry, stuck to the bottom of the bowl. Thank you, it was advised here to put dry in liquid, it stuck much less, I helped a little with a silicone scraper with my hands.I don’t remember what I was kneading with, whether with a hook, or to. Satisfied.
She made yeast dough - a scarecrow's master class on cabbage pies. Excited. There, at first, the dough turned out very cool, and at the end fats intervene. Intervened everything. I didn’t believe that I could do it. I did 250 ml of milk for testing. Worth well, there is very little wiggle of the sleeve.
I mixed cottage cheese on the casserole with the help of silicone and to. I did not notice the difference. Curd about 1-1.2 kg. The cottage cheese was very good, homemade fat, moderately moist. Kneaded it up well. But usually I have pressed cottage cheese in washers, I have suffered with it before. It is hard for me to go through a sieve with my hands and for a very long time. In the multiquick, I cut and beat it in small portions, I would like to speed up the process. If I cope with this, I'll be happy until I tried it.
I did not go into the heating function. For rinsing, I pour water into the bowl and turn on the heating to test the performance. It seems to work. Earlier they wrote that there are no problems with heating the liquid, but for example with the test it does not immediately track it. They use different tricks. The instructions say something like, it takes 5 minutes for the heating temperature of the product to reach the sensor. In general, I wanted to try and make custard dough and creams. But now I'm not sure if this is possible. Saw the Kenwood heated commercial. There the cook first cooked the dough with his hands in a frying pan, and then threw the dough into the first one. And yet, neither silicone nor to touch the bottom of the bowl, that is, they cannot, like this cook, scrub along the bottom. Or maybe it will work with a lot of volume. But this is all my thoughts, I have not tried it myself. I poured about a glass of water, this is the extreme point where the nozzle reaches to, the silicone is 1-2 mm lower, you cannot adjust the removal. But there is also a small bonus in heating, I took out the milk from the refrigerator, warmed it in a bowl, the additional container does not need to be dirty and washed, but I'm not yet sure how much it is worth, I dreamed of something else)))
That's what I didn't expect problems with, it's a meat grinder. Here I counted 3-4 people with such, I suited everyone. I probably have a marriage. The meat does not grind, but chews, the veins are wound on a knife, auger, and the net is closed. I usually buy meat from some farmers once every two weeks and go to my mother to process it in a meat grinder, I take beef neck-shoulder, I don't cut any veins. Everything is ground in a matter of minutes. Here I took a piece of 1.5 kg, cut it smaller, well, barely squeezes out. With one kilogram it turned out about 10 minutes. The remaining half a kilogram was never processed. I took it apart three times. As a result, having suffered for almost an hour, I collected all the leftovers and played them for less than a minute the next day with my mother. I am very upset, I need a meat grinder, I thought to combine and save space. I read that the grate should be placed on a certain side of the knives, it doesn't help me. I looked at the gap between the knife and the net, there is contact on mine only at the edge of a 3-5 millimeter, and there is a gap in the center. On my mother's old moulinex, full fit along the entire length of the knives. Most likely the reason is this. The grid shows that the middle part is covered with a film, and around the perimeter it is clean. Maybe it’s not veins at all, but just meat fibers that morning. In general, sadness. By the way, the instructions say to use meat without veins. But why do I need such a meat grinder. In the Kenwood theme, the situation is the same, someone grinds chic, someone has pate. Well, and somehow flimsy, very lightweight parts, I don't know what kind of alloy, the old Moulinex is much heavier - the feeling of metal. There are plastic parts in this attachment. Once I read that this is a type of fuse to protect the motor. Moulinex has no visible plastic. And I am tormented by doubts if this plastic flies in the post-warranty period or even is recognized as a non-warranty case in the first year, then where will I get this part. I read in the subject of proficiency, and this is one office with bomann and clathronic, when contacting the SC they answer that there are no details and will not be. I'm afraid it's the same here. These are my thoughts. I don’t know any real cases on this particular model. In general, post-warranty service confuses
I don't need a blender, we don't use smoothie cocktails, I didn't even turn it on.
Somehow like this...
Still small for me, but still cons.
It smells like plastic to me. I bend over to smell the product - plastic. While kneading the tough dough, the fan drove the smell from the inside. But I generally have a keen sense of smell.
In terms of noise level, I expected it to be much louder. I'm sensitive to noise too
The problem for me is to wash the bowl. There is a heating element at the bottom and a type of plug that is inserted into the device. The sink is wet, I can't put it there, mine is on the table. Either wipe the sink, or whatever mat to adapt for this purpose. Strains. I would like without dancing with tambourines.
It is still ambiguous for me how successful the purchase is. The kneader is good, the meat grinder does not work from my point of view, with heating it is still unclear to me from the custard dough and cream. I remembered that I was kneading minced meat for cutlets, I got carried away with the process - I look at its work, as I once did for a washing machine))) - I kneaded it to the threads, I don’t like these cutlets, but I think it would be good for sausage))))
Look like that's it
Suliko
tany81, and all kinds of attachments for pasta, kebabs?
And thanks for such a detailed review.
I saw a detailed review on the 367 model bomann, there seems to be a meat grinder like this, unlike boshes.
Sergey_A
Quote: tany81
It is still ambiguous for me how successful the purchase is. .. one protein does not reach and cannot beat ... The kneader is good, the meat grinder does not work ... with heating it is not clear to me yet ... minced meat for cutlets - I don’t like that ... it would go for sausage)))
Throw away this machine, do not torture yourself, it still does not fly, and you cannot plow on it, and you cannot bake bread, and you cannot cook soup ... Why do you need such a sewing machine ?!
Rituslya
Sergey_A, you react in a strange way to any review that, knowingly or not, affects your mixer.
What does the sewing machine have to do with it?
No, I understand that sarcasm and humor always have a place to be, but here we seem to share our impressions and reviews, rather than tease each other, let's say about a "bad" purchase. I put the unsuccessful one in quotes simply because not everyone and not always the purchase seems 100% successful.
gala10
Quote: tany81
I made a dough for ciabatta, it is thin. Added liquid to dry, stuck to the bottom of the bowl. Thank you, it was advised here to put dry in liquid, it stuck much less, I helped a little with a silicone scraper with my hands.
On the advice of Ninelle, I began to grease the bowl with vegetable oil to knead the bread. Now nothing sticks to the walls or to the bottom.
Quote: tany81
I kneaded minced meat for cutlets, got carried away with the process - I look at his work, as I once did on a washing machine))) - I kneaded it to the threads, I don't like such cutlets
I knead the minced meat at 2 speeds for 2 minutes. It turns out gorgeous!
Natalia K.
tany81, thanks for such a detailed review of the Bomann 367, someone will find this review useful too.

Quote: Rituslya
but here we seem to be sharing our impressions and reviews, rather than teasing each other, let's say about a "bad" purchase.
I completely agree with Rita.
Quote: gala10
On the advice of Ninelle, I began to grease the bowl with vegetable oil to knead the bread. Now nothing sticks to the walls or to the bottom.
Gal I do not grease the bowl with vegetable oil. Nothing sticks to my walls. But if someone likes to do this, then why not grease the bowl.
Quote: gala10
I knead the minced meat at 2 speeds for 2 minutes.
I do the same.
Serafim_us
tany81When you are going to grind meat, well (very well ...) twist (what is it called ?!) the part that presses the net with the knife. All the way! And it will grind everything.
What's the problem with washing the bowl? Wash inside, on top with a damp cloth.
Quote: tany81
In terms of noise level, I expected it to be much louder. I'm sensitive to noise too
And for me so ... it rumbles like a tank. Others are even worse.
Quote: tany81
Well, somehow flimsy,
Silumin.
Normal details.
Masinen
Sergey_A, likewise I do not understand such aggression.
You bought and you like everything, so why immediately attack a person.

Now no one dares to write a bad review and immediately they start to spread rot people.
what for??? Meaning??
Let them write whatever they want. Why then was the theme created?
Suliko
Nataliya, it was a review of the bomann 379 analogue heated.
The Germans on that site mutilate me with the delivery of 383, I think what to replace - 367 or 379.
Natalia K.
Quote: Suliko
bomann 379 heated
Ella, any review, even an analogue of 379 has the right to be.
Quote: Suliko
I think what to replace - 367 or 379.
It's up to you to decide, depending on what you need it for.
Suliko
Nataliya, you thanked tany81 for a detailed review of the Bomann 367, but it was a review of the analogue of the 379 model.
Maybe someone will be interested in watching a video about the 367 model:


Natalia K.
Ella, yes I realized only later about which model there was a review.
I watched the video. Very interesting. But I believe that such a set of everything can be bought by someone who has nothing from the device. Let's say I have everything in stock. So that only a kneader was needed. I just don't want to duplicate everything, and all this still needs to be stored somewhere.
Sergey_A
Quote: Rituslya
you react strangely to any review
It's not at all strange - several people have already tried to explain that it is impossible to load all their unrealizable desires into one piece of iron, that the devices are made for specific tasks, that whip in 6.5 liters 1!!! the egg is nothing more than stupidity ... And desires are all unloaded and unloaded into the topic, then one then another. And all the explanations do not obey and do not obey ...
Rituslya, you are not confused by the repeated repetitions of unfulfilled demands, is it good to repeat them without delving into explanations?
Sergey_A
Quote: natalisha_31
thanks for such a detailed review of Bomann 367
A detailed review is good! But!!! if it is made according to the real properties of the device and not by its own mistakes. Conclusions based on mistakes will only mislead those who are looking for a mixer and will not help them, will not prevent them from a failed purchase.
Quote: natalisha_31
Quote: Rituslya from Today at 15:11
but here we seem to be sharing our impressions and reviews, rather than teasing each other, let's say about a "bad" purchase.
I completely agree with Rita.
In this I agree with Rita, and would never humor over practical advice, real personal opinion ... But to betray my inability to use the device (Galina explains this in an elementary way above your message, and there are many such corrections) for its poor quality it is inappropriate ...
I am not rude, I can easily laugh at myself - I am forced to answer that way.
Sergey_A
Quote: Masinen
Let them write whatever they want.
And you criticize me for "I write what I want."
Masinen
Sergey_A, Sergey, my Kenwood 080 with a 7 liter bowl can easily beat 1 egg white.
And if the kneader or mixer cannot do this, then this leads to great doubts.
Why one can do it and the other cannot)

Reading your posts, they take vague doubts as to why you defend this device so zealously.
It seems that there is a personal interest in something))
In general, men surprise me how they start to defend something, either laugh or aggro.
No, just to thank for the feedback and help figure out why this or that did not work

For example, I am very happy for you, that you are happy with him and for others.
Sergey_A
Quote: Masinen
Kenwood 080 with 7 liter bowl
Is it planetary ??? And how often do you spread 7L in a bowl of 1 egg?
Quote: Masinen
why are you protecting this device so zealously.
Because before buying I read this review (about another KM367 model, I bought it using it): The site stubbornly changes the link, I can not beat it

Read it and then we'll talk about comments and reviews.
P. S .: review female, by female I bought a review!
Sergey_A
Quote: Masinen
just to thank for the feedback and help figure out why this or that did not work
Thank you for the feedback with erroneous conclusions ??? And it is doubtful and difficult to help advice to those who do not use them but run after their mistakes.
Quote: Masinen
very happy for you that you are happy with him
So I rejoice for those who are happy, who are satisfied.
Finish making excuses. Who did not understand the analysis of the causes of the problems - sorry for the humor. In the next. just think about whether everything is worth putting up for discussion and then take offense at the answers. And good luck to you!
Masinen
Quote: Sergey_A
Is it planetary ???
Of course, planetary, but how else is it)
Quote: Sergey_A
Thank you for the feedback with erroneous conclusions ??? And it is doubtful and difficult to help advice to those who do not use them but run after their mistakes.
Why immediately with erroneous conclusions)
You so decided for yourself))
You cannot give active links))
And she's broken, our forum is blocking her)
Sergey_A
Quote: Masinen
Why immediately with erroneous conclusions)
And you read other responses to "good" reviews.
Quote: Masinen
Of course, planetary, but how else is it)
Then I am surprised - the planetary kneads along the edges of the bowl bypassing the middle. How does it hit the middle with the egg? Or do you whisk half a day?
Quote: Masinen
And she's broken, our forum is blocking her)
Right now I will use it.
Masinen
At kenwood, the bottom of the bowl is made so that he beats 1 egg without any problems)
Rita wrote about it and showed a photo)
She also has 020 with a bowl of 7 liters.
I just propose to change the manner of communication and that's it))
Masinen
Quote: Rituslya

Here I go again with my eggs.
This is one egg in a 6 liter bowl in 1.5 minutes
Bomann KM food processor-kneaders
But these are 2 eggs in 1.5 minutes too.
Bomann KM food processor-kneaders
What I want to say. I want to say that the result for me is more than. As it turns out, I measure everything with beaten eggs.
I had Boman, Boshik Mumik, and one Kenka, and today the second one. I am sooo happy with the last result. I will beat and drive this shaitan machine and one egg at a time. Result (y) But I really, really understand girls and boys with Boman. If the soul and heart have laid down on the aggregate, it will serve faithfully. And good, and healthy, and very wonderful!
And let Bomik serve faithfully for many, many years!
Sergey_A
Quote: Masinen
It is easy to find these models on the otzovik_com site. For some reason, the link is cut even when sent in a personal message. The strength is no longer enough.
Masinen
OK, I `ll have a look))
Sergey_A
Quote: Masinen
I read it and answered it. For the sake of 1 egg to buy Kenwood ??? That beats me! I do not discuss beating 1 egg anymore.
Sergey_A
Maria, Masinen,
Quote: Masinen
which you give)
Maria, remove the extra lines after these words.
tany81
Quote: gala10
On the advice of Ninelle, I began to grease the bowl with vegetable oil to knead the bread. Now nothing sticks to the walls or to the bottom.

I knead the minced meat at 2 speeds for 2 minutes. It turns out gorgeous!

Thanks for the advice on greasing the bowl. It stuck a little, helping a little with a scraper is not difficult. In any case, I'll try it, see how it is more convenient. After the pie test, the bowl was clean.
Apparently, she expressed a thought badly about the mince. I watched how it worked and interrupted him. But this is also an experience, because now I know that I have kneaded well on the sausage.
tany81
Quote: Serafim_us
well (fine ...) twist (what is it called ?!) the part that presses the net with the knife. All the way! And it will grind everything.
What's the problem with washing the bowl? Wash inside, on top with a damp cloth.
Ok, I asked my husband to screw it tighter, I trusted it quite a bit. Tomorrow I will try again and now I took the largest grid, maybe this will work better. I hope it will get used to it.
By washing the bowls - these are my cockroaches))) pots in my dishwasher, rarely in the sink. And here I actually have to wash on the countertop next to the unit. Not comfortable, thoughts wander, suddenly an awkward movement and accidentally flood the unit. Not comfortable, but you can get used to it.
Masinen
Quote: Sergey_A

] I read it and answered it. For the sake of 1 egg to buy Kenwood ??? That beats me! I do not discuss beating 1 egg anymore.

Well no))
No need kenwood

It's just that this moment must be immediately stipulated if a person needs to beat 1 egg)
gala10
Quote: Masinen
this moment should be discussed immediately if a person needs to beat 1 egg
Mashun, I totally agree with that. Before buying any unit, it is worth asking real users whether it meets specific (for example, beating one egg) requests. In order not to suffer on this topic after the purchase.
Girls boys, good luck everyone!
I repeat once again: Bomann 383 satisfies my requests completely! What I wish everyone!

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