Serafim_us
Masinen, gala10, To your health !!! In general, I found this thread by accident ... I always read that one. And such passions, mugs with technique are remembered. All sorry.
Sergey_A
Quote: natalisha_31
I am also now kneading 1.5 portions of "Darnitskiy".
It works well for you - I can't hear a sound !!!
Quote: gala10
I'm ashamed to ask ...
Yeah, I forgot. (about me)
gala10
Quote: Sergey_A
forgot
Woooot ... and then they say that it works badly!
Sergey_A
Quote: gala10

Woooot ... and then they say that it works badly!
So it works for me !!!!
Natalia K.
Quote: Sergey_A
Well he works for you
Sergei, it works for me perfectly, which I wish everyone who bought this miracle.
Smoke
Well, I passed my Bomann today ... It's a pity, but .......
Now I will wait for him to return to Ozone, they told me to track it myself, and then call and decide how they will return the money to me! It's strange a little, I thought that they would be returned to me where I took it and paid for, but it turns out differently.
My husband was more upset than me - it was his gift to me on my wedding day, yesterday he listened to him, watched, watched photos and videos of your results ..... Compared ......
Today she is already asking what I will order for myself instead of him, but I don’t know what to answer ... I already gave the HP to my mother, it’s somehow not very convenient to pick it up now
Eh, why so unlucky?
Sergey_A
Quote: gala10
have you forgotten to wash the new equipment?
I read the beginning of the topic. Now I know what this phrase is inspired by.
Natalia K.
Quote: Haze
what I'll order for myself instead of him, but I don't know what to answer ...
It's up to you to decide what you need. In such matters, I don't want to be an advisor

Strange a little, I thought that they would be returned to me where I took it and paid
There is nothing strange. This is the pick-up point. And they send the money to the store. The product is sold by the store, not the point of issue. Something like this.
gala10
Quote: Sergey_A
Now I know what this phrase is inspired by.
Sergei, not only this. Practice shows that I have difficulties with technique when I miss this moment. So it was with the multicooker and the sandwich maker. Therefore, I constantly remind everyone of this and myself at the same time.
Quote: Haze
I handed over my Bomann today
There is no need to expect from technology that it can replace all devices at once. It is called the dough mixer. Key word "kneader". These combines do an excellent job with this function. And beating eggs - for this there are mixers and blenders that do not consume as much electricity. But if for a large family or a holiday, when you need to beat a lot of eggs at once, that's another matter.
Natalia K.
Quote: gala10
There is no need to expect from technology that it can replace all devices at once.
Gal, here I completely agree with you.
Quote: gala10
It is called the dough mixer. Key word "kneader". These combines do an excellent job with this function.
You can't argue here either. When I read about it and studied the information, I definitely knew why I needed it and what functions it would perform.

Quote: gala10
And beating eggs - for this there are mixers and blenders
I think that even if you beat 3 eggs, you can use a mixer with a bowl. I have a mixer Zelmer 481.64 in which I always made choux pastry and it always worked out. And henceforth, I will beat one or two eggs with a mixer or 724 Kenwood. Well, not a dough mixer. Otherwise, why were the other devices bought?
Natalia K.
Burned today Rustic bread... The dough was kneaded for 4 minutes at 3 speeds. I baked it in MV Brand 37502. This is the kind of bread I got. I am more and more happy with the kneader
Bomann KM food processor-kneaders
gala10
Natasha, gorgeous bread!
Natalia K.
Quote: gala10
gorgeous bread!
Thank you Checkmark, I like it myself. And the bread is delicious
Antonovka
natalisha_31,
Natasha, how round and neat))
Playful
Nataliya, very nice bread. And I bake something all in a bread maker, my hands don't reach the shins with a one-year-old D in my hands. So far, it's easier to throw it into the HB and forget it until ready.
Natalia K.
Oksana, yes, I also used to bake in a bread maker. But when I tried the bread from the multicooker, then the baking in hp ended there. It reminds me more of the oven version. And now everything began to be done faster after the dough mixer appeared.Oksana, try to bake in a multicooker, you will like the bread.
tany81
Dd! Here, although bomann, but I have his brother clatronic km 3476, I have been testing since last week, also with ozone. I read it - I was worried about Eugene. I tried it with proteins, I didn't beat one protein in 5 minutes at the maximum, although I see it mixes. I added the second one - after 5 minutes I beat it into an elastic mass. I'm happy - I don't have a separate mixer, I need it to perform all the functions))) I was worried that I would have to hand it over, the courier still cut the box for me upon delivery, because I could not pull out the unit - how would this be accepted. I pressed the corolla 3 times, it was initially very high, and even now it does not reach the bottom of a 3-5 millimeter. There is still a bowl, I don’t know everyone has this, or only with heating, like a frying pan - in the middle is higher, and the bottom sinks to the walls. I had a problem with the ciabatta dough, it is watery, I was kneading it with a nozzle. There is a lot of flour left at the bottom, not enough. I saw it at the end of the process, collected it with a spatula and started stirring. And this nozzle cannot be squeezed like a whisk. You also have flour at the bottom, are there any tricks to avoid this?
Natalia K.
Quote: tany81
There is a lot of flour left at the bottom, not enough.
tany81, and in what order did you put the ingredients?
tany81
Flour, yeast, salt, water on top
Natalia K.
Quote: tany81

Flour, yeast, salt, water on top
I do everything exactly the opposite. Nothing remains, everything mixes up.

kneaded with a nozzle
Why not a hook?
gala10
tany81, good day!
Quote: tany81
I didn't whisk one protein in 5 minutes at maximum
One protein is such a kneader and should not beat.
Quote: tany81
I added the second one - after 5 minutes I beat it into an elastic mass.
This is really lucky! I think that such powerful aggregates are not intended for whipping a small amount of proteins.
Quote: tany81
a bowl, I don’t know for everyone, or only with heating, like a frying pan - in the middle is higher, and the bottom sinks to the walls.
No, my Boman has an even bottom.
Quote: tany81
You also have flour at the bottom, are there any tricks to avoid this?
I agree with Natasha. Down - liquid, stir with a hook. And you will be happy!
Sergey_A
Quote: natalisha_31
I do everything exactly the opposite.
And it is right! In HP, too, it is necessary to lay the only way. Liquid only first down.
gala10
Quote: Sergey_A
In HP, too, it is necessary to lay the only way. Liquid just first down.
Sergei, you must read the instructions for the HP. For some it is indicated: liquid down, and for others, on the contrary, flour. But if the bottom of the bowl, like that of tany81, is curvy, then for sure - the liquid is down!
Sergey_A
Quote: gala10
such powerful units are not intended for whipping small quantities
Other options are not logical: 5-6.5 liters for 1-2 proteins - there is no logic in this.
Quote: gala10
my Boman has an even bottom.
And my 383rd.
gala10
Quote: Sergey_A
And my 383rd.
We have the same Boman!
Sergey_A
Quote: gala10
to others - on the contrary, flour
Galina, on the contrary, there are wrong recipes, for beauty and not for the result.
gala10
Sergei, well, yes, there are. But the instructions are still to read must be honored.
Sergey_A
Quote: gala10
We have the same Boman!
Better
Sergey_A
Quote: gala10
you still need to read the instructions
That's what I said.
Natalia K.
Quote: Sergey_A
In HP, too, it is necessary to lay the only way. Liquid just first down.
Sergei, not always. In the instructions for HP Panasonic, the liquid goes last.
Sergey_A
Quote: natalisha_31

Sergei, not always.In the instructions for HP Panasonic, the liquid goes last.
Natalisha, and you try to knead the dough in the same way. Then we will discuss whether it is good. (Only pour in the liquid all at once)
Natalia K.
Sergei, at my house (in the Luhansk region) there is also a Kenwood 450. So there, according to the instructions, it is written that water must be poured first, which I did. The result of all this is that I changed 2 buckets in 1 year. When I bought 3 buckets, I started pouring water last, the bucket has not leaked for 2 years. So, that experience is already there.
Sergey_A
Quote: natalisha_31
at my house (in the Luhansk region) there is also Kenwood 450
And at my house (in the Chelyab-th region), too, some Kenwood always takes the first water. Then comes the rest. And it interferes, and gives out bread, and does not flow, and ... In general, we do it correctly according to the instructions. Apparently, this is because our area is different.
Natalia K.
Quote: Sergey_A
In general, we do the right thing with him according to the instructions.
I deviate from the instructions and it suits me. As they say to each his own
Quote: Sergey_A
And all because our area is different.
And this can be
Sergey_A
Quote: natalisha_31
I deviate from the instructions and it suits me.
They are not "invented" by accident. But you can - the area is something else.
tany81
Not with a hook, since the dough is thin, the hook simply slides on top and does not knead anything. I'll try to start with water
Natalia K.
tany81, can you post your dough recipe?
Natalia K.
tany81, I did not because of the recipe, but in a different way. But then I did not have a kneader yet and I was kneading with a mixer. But I was wearing hooks, not blades.
Okmuf
Quote: natalisha_31
Why not a hook?
Hook for heavy dough as instructed. H-shaped for more liquid.
Natalia K.
Quote: Okmuf
Hook for heavy dough as instructed. H-shaped for more liquid.
I will not argue. According to the instructions, it should be, then it should be so.BUT the instructions do not say anywhere that the kneader will beat 1-2 eggs, and everyone is trying to beat (some even succeed). And then they say that if it doesn’t beat it, it means marriage or it doesn’t cope with its responsibilities. Something like this.
Okmuf
I'm talking specifically about the test.
tany81
Quote: natalisha_31
BUT the instructions do not say anywhere that the kneader will beat 1-2 eggs
Here, as about a glass - half empty or full. I just, because the instructions do not say that he will not beat 1-2 eggs and the minimum volume is not indicated, I think that I should beat. I initially treated it like a kitchen machine, an inexpensive analogue of the Kenwoods. If there is a whisk and the minimum volume is not specified, then you must beat it))
gala10
Quote: tany81
I initially treated it like a kitchen machine, an inexpensive analogue of the Kenwoods. If there is a whisk and the minimum volume is not specified, then you must beat it))
In a bowl of 5 or 6.5 liters, beat 1 egg ???
And who came up with the idea that this is an analogue of Kenwood ???
Natalia K.
tany81, I do not want to argue and to prove something to someone. I expressed my opinion. I don't care how many whites or eggs you beat. You are satisfied with chasing such a colossus from behind one egg. God help you.
Okmuf
Quote: natalisha_31
chase such a colossus from behind one egg
Why not, if there is nothing else?
Natalia K.
Quote: Okmuf

Why not, if there is nothing else?
I wrote
God help you.
Okmuf
Here I was convinced once again that we are not rich enough to buy cheap things. I sat in the bushes for a long time and wondered how one could praise this coffin with suction cups (383 model, if that). I couldn't stand it. To be honest, I was surprised when I saw this unit at my mother-in-law. You might think that you need to bake several loaves of bread at a time, or beat dozens of eggs. Well, if there are 8-9 people in the family, then this may be justified. I had the most budgetary Boshik, which I had to part with due to moving to another city to my husband's parents. Kneaded, beat for five, and worked continuously for 5 and 15 minutes. the same. And after 5 minutes, this unit begins to rattle and warm up - this is at 1200 W of power, when the dough is kneaded at 600 gr. flour.As my mother-in-law says, she is coveted for a low price. Now he regrets and thinks where to shake him off.
Song
Quote: Okmuf

Here I was once again convinced that we are not rich enough to buy cheap things. I sat for a long time in the bushes and wondered how one could praise this coffin with suction cups (383 model, if that). I couldn't stand it. Honestly, I was surprised when I saw this unit at my mother-in-law. You might think that you need to bake several loaves of bread at a time, or beat dozens of eggs. Well, if there are 8-9 people in the family, then this may be justified. I had the most budgetary Boshik, which I had to part with due to moving to another city to my husband's parents. Kneaded, beat for a five, and worked continuously for 5 and 15 minutes. the same. And after 5 minutes, this unit begins to rattle and warm up - this is at 1200 W of power, when the dough is kneaded at 600 grams. flour. As my mother-in-law says, she is coveted for a low price. Now he regrets and thinks where to shake him off.
Okmuf, why are you so? Well, you don't like it and don't need it. Buy yourself another. You can even two. The most expensive ones. Others like it. Doesn't the dough knead well? Good. Which, in fact, was required.
And the rest is your personal emotions.
Suliko
Well, after such statements, I almost ran the order to cancel

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