Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)

[Radushka]

Radushka, the twigs will dry themselves.

I mean that we won't drink twigs in our whole life

[Radushka]

Radushka, Ah, got it.

Girls and boys! Nadys I asked about the flowers of honeysuckle. It turned out that there is practically no information on them. Conducted an experiment. I am reporting.
What was, what was and what the heart calmed down.

The final color of the tea is more golden than in the photo. It's cloudy here. I ran around with this glass all over the house in order to somehow show the color in the photo. It tastes like nothing. Just some water. But the smell is very pleasant. Delicate smell of honeysuckle. If you need to set off a delicious, but not aromatic tea, I think it will be just right. I tested it on my eternally pregnant a husband who is very sensitive to odors. He said that the smell is not strong, but not disgusting, and this is already something. Well, something like this.
By the way, I just dried it in the shade, in a ventilated room. Better to collect in the evening. Honeysuckle starts to smell strong towards sunset and all night long. When drying, the smell is crazy! In general, I will definitely dry for additives to tea!

[elena88]

elena88, with a successful experiment!

I bought it at the supermarket in the greens section. They sell these in tiny pots. I suppose normal people use greens, and the roots are in the trash. And I planted it in the ground. Sage was written in Russian on white on the pot. I was also surprised that it didn't smell of anything. Well, I think it might be small, and therefore odorless. Such is the story.

Elena, your sage is called that way - sticky sage, a type of oak sage.
And in medicine and cooking, medicinal sage with narrow fragrant leaves is used.
But you have a wonderful bush with an unusual yellow color of flowers that is rare for sage.

[Zeamays]

Zeamays, thank you very much! Finally, clarity came with my sage. I honestly want to remove it after flowering. Painfully it is huge! I'll also try dried flowers in tea. But in my opinion, they do not give aroma in the tea leaves. Once brewed in mixed doubles. I'll try to brew it in its pure form. If not, then I will definitely uproot it. But his flowers are lilac, not yellow. This photo turned out so indistinct.

elena88, with a successful experiment!

Thank you!!!

[Elena Kadiewa,]

Elena Kadiewa, then I will also collect the "dust" separately, too, we want it tasty

[sweet_blondy]

sweet_blondyHow nice it is when the "new" teabehavioralamateurs are happy with the results of their experiments!

[Elena Kadiewa,]

Elena Kadiewa, then I will also collect the "dust" separately, too, we want delicious tea))
Radushka, Can you sound the composition of the mixed tea? which was collected for the trinity)
stewed raspberries are very interesting! there is a slow cooker. just need to see what mode it cooks at how many degrees) I have just 3.5 kg of raspberries from my mother's plantation now drying))))
I agree about herbal teas - you need to be very careful. I try to add a little for the scent and of course we study contraindications. Well, we look at the reaction of the body. and then, for example, my husband did not have any contraindications to wild rose, but he has a headache on the berries. that's how it happens. and I am nothing, I drink great)
2 hundred square meters of raspberries go crazy! I have 2 huge sprawling bushes. and that 2 hundred parts!)
Light,yes, it will probably be easier with a pruner. only now I lost it when I went for the leaves last month I need to buy a new one)
elena88, I first heard about honeysuckle) an interesting experience. Congratulations!



Radushka, I'm not quite happy yet, well, it's because you need to practice. so far bastard from the process))

I made apple and bird cherry on weekends separately.
first did then read that bird cherry is not granulated. bulldozer. well, nothing, I remember. I want to try making leafy bird cherry and compare the taste and color. frozen-thawed 4 times in my opinion. fermented at 23-24 * 3-3.5 hours the aroma was unforgettable! I found a place in the apartment where, presumably, you can finish drying tea. my bags are hanging. I squeeze them periodically. only now it seems to me that when it was poured into the bag, the tea rustled. well, maybe I don't understand sounds, let them hang.
By the way, my apple tree was granulated badly ... it seemed to be dried well. the leaves even started to warm up in the sheet when they dried. frozen / thawed 4 times. then thawed it, aired it - the leaves were slightly damp, they did not stick to the hand.
I noticed that when I was turning it (electric) in the meat grinder, when the lump of leaves was ground, the granules came out, but while I was reaching for the next batch, the residues were already coming out of the meat grinder - like dust. I'll go read the theory again.

Zhenya, rotten granules do not bother me at all. So is the dust. In general, I like meat grinder tea more than whole leaf and cut tea. Beautiful, of course ... in a jar, when the leaves are pockmarked in different colors, yes, if they are still sprinkled with flower petals. Only, store them WHERE? I have already told here how last year I collected pear leaves on May 1. They were so small, so delicate, so thin ... To twist their hand did not rise. Well, I squeezed them, fermented and dried them whole. The tea turned out to be luxurious! completely different from summer and, moreover, from autumn. It smells like elite black, tastes ... elite black with a light so incomprehensible aftertaste, with a velvety aftertaste!
I would do it and do it. Only ... 230 grams of finished tea barely fit into a SIX-LITER jar! And it must be endured at least two months. A YEAR is better! And you can't move it for long-term storage either in the cellar or in the attic. Because there are jumps in temperature. And it is better to store it at constant (at least approximately).

So the family of the eldest son will build a house for themselves, so they will transfer there, so I will organize in the place of my real kitchen-hallway a huge heated Pantry! Then it will be possible to think about whole leaf tea. At least for gifts

Trinity gulls came from what was collected on Trinity. They would have collected something else, there would have been a different composition.
This includes forest blackberries, forest raspberries, wild pear, wild apple, meadow strawberries (not strawberries), willow tea and quite a bit of irgi + five leaves of bird cherry.
By the way, last year I made the July - Top of Summer tea. There the composition is everything that grew at that time.
Irga, blackberry, sea buckthorn, cherry, apricot, apple tree, pear, strawberry (garden strawberry), willow-tea, raspberry, black currant (fragrant which), forest geranium and very little (how much) Kuril tea (cinquefoil). I don't put cherry in such mixes, it will kill all the aromas. It is better to do it separately, or use it in simpler mixtures

[Radushka,]

Radushka, you know, visible just a little more leaf tea made to understand all the problems associated with storage. all right, you say!
I want aesthetics. well, nothing, it will pass. when i see volumes
here I have not yet met a forest raspberry. although we can't call forests a forest)) so, groves. we live in the steppe)
I'm afraid to mix everything I collect. here someone can create and it turns out well, but I need a book, a recipe - then it turns out well and I like it myself. the cost of a mathematical mind
thanks for the recipes! I wrote down everything I will apply
a tea room is just a dream! I dream of my workshop. where all my handicrafts will be. but now I think it will be possible to halve and store tea in the same place. but this is when there will be a house. my husband promised that I would have a room.but for now we have - a one-room apartment and a small-sized cottage foundation for a house that remained from the previous owners. but nothing, I believe that there will be a house)
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I began to read about the differences between strawberries and strawberries ... my head went round) I call what I call strawberries in the beds, what I call strawberries in the grove / field. although I realized that I was doing it wrong)) if I figured it out correctly, then I have all this strawberry - garden and meadow.
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about the apple groins - last year it was even worse without withering - I specially took it out and looked it up. and this is already great!
and I complain about loose granules only from comparison with the granules in Zacharias recipe - there are such notable pear "worms" that I can only dream
By the way, about a pear - I still can't get to collect the leaves. the apple tree is closer, and I pull it for now))

[Evgeniya]

Evgeniya, the pear always gives excellent granules, unlike the apple tree. Autumn apple trees are generally drier than raspberries. They break in hands without freezing (after freezing they also break, but they are granulated better).
Meadow strawberries only look like strawberries in leaves. Flowers usually grow in scutes and above the leaves. And the berries are round, white-greenish with a dark purple "blush". The taste is sweet without sourness. The aroma is MUSKATNY. Well, it's ripe, of course. Strawberries are always sour, albeit fragrant. Although, it can be long and round. But, strawberry hardly separates from the calyx, and strawberry easily. There are natural and artificially created hybrids in the garden. Muscat flavor-aroma only increases the value of the variety. But, all the same, gardening is not strawberries, but strawberries, strictly speaking.
Don't be afraid about mixing tea cultures! They all fit together perfectly! Especially when the main four is present (pear-apple-strawberry-raspberry). And if cherry lovers, then 10% addition will turn any mix into cherry tea

Girls, I read and am amazed at the volumes and quantities How many raw materials do you harvest for tea ?! I collected half a kilo of apple, cherry, pear, garden strawberry, lemon balm, meadow geranium. Well, I also have raspberries, blackberries and goose in my plans. And then I think, did I swing too much? Of course, my dream is fireweed. But in our area it grows only in the mountains. Good luck if acquaintances bring you. Girls, how much tea does the average family drink in a year? Is it really 20kg?

So so ... There is something, there are huge batches of cooking! And here I went to work, distracted. The question is ripe, in our area is full of Ash-leaved Maple (American). Here in the search there are only a few references to maple, it is not tasty and that's it. And in mixes he will not show himself in any way? I select all the options for the volume, for the mass, so to speak. I have no good access to fruit and berry, cherry only in the main. But I already understood, no matter what mix I added it to - it turns out cherry tea, and at least crack it)))) By the way, cherry will probably "win" maple flaws? This type of maple is wildly common in our country, I think it's worth trying?

[Evgeniya]

Evgeniyahow nice it is to read your "math" reports! Fear not, mix the leaves - every time you get a new tea! A hand filled, the recipe itself worked out - go ahead! I wish you good luck!
elena88, for 3 seasons of tea preparation - I was convinced - there is never too much tea! And it's not worth making less than a kilogram of raw materials - our chemists-pharmacists explained that fermentation there does not go well with a smaller volume.



Yuri K, the answer is one - try it! Taste and color ... maybe you like maple seagulls. ..

[elena88]

elena88,

How much tea does the average family drink per year? Is it really 20kg?

Families are different. What does average mean?
There may be elderly people in a family who like to drink seagulls more than three times a day (noticed), there may be children in whom you can't even pour a cup of tea. My spouse, for example, ends ANY meal with tea. Even if he drank coffee before. For example, I drink tea once a day. Sometimes two. I drink a lot if I have ARD-ARVI.
A lot of tea is spent on gifts for those who themselves, for various reasons, do not make, but they like my tea.A lot is spent on so-called presentations. I recently gave a kilogram to a friend who was treating my cat. She would never have taken money, but her time costs a lot, and drugs for treatment, of course.
For me, 20 kg of ready-made tea is not enough. If only because I don't give anyone to drink fresh. Yesterday I tried a tea made in July 2015 with my daughter-in-law. This is ANOTHER tea! It is even different from what was done in 2016!
20 kg of garden tea - about 50 kg of raw materials

[Radushka]

Radushka, these are the volumes

[Yuri K]

Yuri K, last year I did MORE than 20 kg. Slightly less than 40. But, earlier than this, start doing. Then, in May, work was already in full swing, and in this only three parties had time. Spring is strange to say the least.
It's simple. Three times a week, one batch (approximately 500 g of finished tea). Season May-October (6 months -27 weeks).
27x1.5 = 40.5. Well, somewhere less than 500 comes out, of course ...

[Radushka]

Radushka, shoot me now !!! I feel flawed

20 kg of garden tea - about 50 kg of raw materials

Radushka, tell me, pzhl, how do you get such a big output? How many Ivan-tea we did, it turns out strictly 1: 4, that is, 20 kg of tea is 80 kg of fresh leaves. I tried the same thing from fruit leaves this year ... The only exception is birch. It was 1: 3.

and another request to specialists. Consult please
I decided to make cherry tea, at the same time to try out the technology of making tea from DRIED fireweed (I want to make a supply for the fall / winter and then calmly cook seagulls without an emergency).
Collected 630 g of cherries, after withering 430 g, froze / thawed 3 times. On the first defrost, the smell was much stronger than on the third. And after the third defrosting, the sheet is kind of dry, like paper, although the weight has not changed Is this normal?
From 1 kg of fresh fireweed, 235 g of dry leaves were obtained. I added 430 grams of water there (to make 700 grams), in the evening it was almost completely absorbed, although it somehow did not look like a dried leaf)) I mixed them with cherries and put them in the refrigerator. Let the average humidity gain.
I'm going to scroll and ferment tonight. And then the question arose: the fermentation time of frozen leaves is advised to be 1.5 - 2 hours, but my fireweed is unfrozen, it seems to take longer - 6-8 hours. How to be? Or will cherries win everyone anyway, and don't worry about the taste of fireweed?

[OlgaWing]

OlgaWing, Olya, I weigh before twisting, not after collecting. About 500 g comes out of 1.3 kg. From some leaves the yield is greater, from some less. Ivanushka, of course, will give a smaller output of the finished product! As well as flower petals, by the way. But Ivanushki and less need for a cup of tea! Garden - a completely different calico! They need twice as much for a normal drink! Blackberry also get a smaller output, But, you also need a lot less for a cup! If there are a lot of pears in the collection, then the finished tea will be heavier, but less voluminous.
Last season I came across a tiny precious "spat" of fireweed (we practically do not have it). And she collected everything that was. Green leaves separately, and those that have dried directly on the plants, separately. And I made two village mixes, completely identical in composition, but with different ivanushka. Dry pre-sprinkled with water, let it dampen, then mixed with defrosting leaves and fermented, twisting the whole mass. There was no particular difference in the taste of the finished tea. And now, when almost a year has passed ... Well, I'll brew it tonight - we will compare. Unsubscribe then.
Start drying 4 hours after you finish twisting. Until you get to the last portion for drying, and it will be the same 6 hours
Cherry will win everyone if it is more than 5%

Thank you for your detailed consultation!

I will put it to ferment for 4 hours, I can't stand it anymore - I'll fall asleep, but it still needs to be dried

I will unsubscribe later about the result.

[Radushka,]

Radushka, yeah, that's what I understand the volumes! Of course, I can only dream of such volumes. well now we have an active rain pouring - I just loosen the field.and there is a lot of time to collect the leaves for tea. but how will our usual heat begin - do not know how much time I will have for my favorite business ...
Elena Kadiewa, I am nowhere without mathematics. I write everything down, take notes. to then understand which is tastier and better) by the way, my husband and I tried to analyze cherry tea with and without frying. they never came to the general opinion))) but I decided to do everything with the frying), especially since I read the first pages. solidified in her intention.
1 kg of withered leaf or after freezer? I weigh the dried before putting it in the freezer. I wonder if the weight changes after freezing-thawing)

[sweet_blondy]

sweet_blondy, Zhenechka, I'm weighing after freezing and defrosting. Before you twist. Because I have raspberries in almost all of them, and if it is more than 50%, then the granules will fall apart, anyway. Well, now there are also blackberries. And later there will be currants (the rules are the same)
I just thought ... what if you store the ROLLED raw materials in the freezer (after the obligatory withering and education according to Zacharius)? You need even less space ... And then he took it out - thawed it - and compacted it for fermentation. I'll have to try

do you know what I think about when crossing the threshold of the house? about tea! and why? because as soon as I open the door, I immediately feel the aroma of unfrozen leaves. it is such a symphony that you can just lose your head! a mixture of bird cherry and plum - magically the rest of the leaves fade into the background in this batch) appreciated Zakhariy's method one batch freezes at night, another in the afternoon. I really don’t know how I’ll process all this. The problem with drying in the dryer when I prepare 2 types of tea - the mesh is large, the small fraction falls through .... I have to call in to buy gauze or something - I’ll put it on the grate. I hope it doesn't hurt the dryer ...
and since Monday, bird cherry and apple seagulls are being dried in bags from Monday ... and it's humid and cloudy outside. tell me, wait for at least one sunny day for the best final drying or not wait and say on Sunday it will be possible to put it away for storage? granules as for me rustle in bags

[sweet_blondy]

sweet_blondy, just NOT MARLU !!! Then you can't remove tea from her! I am using a mosquito net. The one that is pulled over the protective screens for the windows. Perfectly cut, well kept. If you need to make it smaller, you can put one on one on the lattice. We sell on the market where oilcloth for countertops is in rolls. Third year dry. Dryer don't mind)

the problem with drying in the dryer when I prepare 2 types of tea - the mesh is large, the fine fraction falls through ...

I did this from a mosquito net.

[Natalia-NN]

Natalia-NN,

[Radushka,]

Radushka, mean when there is no way to ferment right here and now, but you need to free up some space in the freezer? interestingly
thanks for the percentage clarification! very important for me. otherwise I want to make strawberries + blackberries. I thought 50/50, now there will definitely be an advantage in the direction of strawberries

Thank you so much for clarifying the gauze! It's good that I said it aloud, otherwise in the evening I was going to go to the cloth already! now I will look for an anti-mosquito.



Natalia-NN, thanks for the illustrative example! I see she is soft right?

[sweet_blondy]

sweet_blondy, I didn't do THIS! Itself is now on fire to try!
And the mesh is relatively soft. It is different in thickness. Well, in softness too

I see she is soft right?

It is neither soft as gauze nor stiff. Holds the sides well. And pouring tea is convenient, folded and poured.

in the evening I was going to go to the cloth

It is possible in the fabric! Tulle is very suitable for these purposes and the cell is smaller than that of a mosquito and the price is more humane.

[filirina]

filirina, I bought a mosquito 20 UAH per running meter in May. How much cheaper?

Well, we have not had such prices for a long time, the mosquito starts from 60 UAH, and the tulle 38 UAH. with the same width.

and how does tulle react to heating? all the same synthetics ...I read about the mosquito net that it can withstand high temperatures and is used even in the food industry for filtration

And does not react in any way! It's the second season of my nets, like new. And you can also use organza, its cell does not even allow the dust fraction to pass through, and the dryer is fine. I also have an organza backing.

Phew, I honestly read to the last page! Tea fairies, as young people say now, respect and respect you! What invaluable information and advice! Wikipedia is resting! This twig was recommended to me by our Lida-Cosmos. Began procurement of raw materials. We have a winter apple, wild, wild pear, blackberry, blackberry, cherry, sweet cherry and strawberry in unlimited quantities. Black currants and raspberries in very limited quantities. The main points are clear. The algorithm is very accessible. But there are also misunderstandings. Do you need to dry one baking sheet in the oven or can two at once? And one more question. Is Ivan tea already in bloom or not yet? Today I found Ivanushka in the backyard of my site. But I can't define one hundred percent without flowers. When we moved to Kaliningrad, Ivanushka grew up across the street, but for four years now they had been poisoned. And today I went to the pond and saw 20 bushes. Well, I wrote a lot of words, threw in questions, and forgot to ask the company. Forgive and accept!

Yuri K, the answer is one - try it! Taste and color ... maybe you like maple seagulls. ..

Probably I will decide))) But I don’t plan to do mono, I prepare only mixes, so I’ll add some part))

[sokolinka]

sokolinka, Tanya, welcome! You are the heroine! Read almost a poke of pages ...
I dry in an airfryer, so I won't tell you about the oven, but it seems that they dried two sheets each.
And about Ivanushka, still wait for it to bloom, and that is, some kind of scent, looks very much like Ivanushka.
Yuri, try to make a little mono, at least you will understand what the maple will give in the mix.

Yuri, try to make a little mono, at least you will understand what the maple will give in the mix.

I think not worth it .... In a search on the forum, I did not find a single positive review. But I think as a filler, for the masses, I should not interfere, I also did not meet explicit denial, almost the same as about Irga (I already made a game with her)

[sokolinka]

sokolinka, Tatyana, well done for reading.
I dry two sheets in the oven at the same time, my top and bottom heats up at the same time, you can turn it on separately.
At first, I just periodically swap the leaves in order to fry the foliage, and then I mix it, it's more convenient for me and the quality of the tea is good. The door is ajar.

[sokolinka]

sokolinka, Tatyana, Welcome!

Newcomers on arrival! We are glad!
Someone here asked about the possibility of making tea from dried raw materials (soaking before fermentation).
I promised to compare and report.
I am reporting.
TWO village mixes of absolutely identical composition were prepared (weighed the components). Only one went green ivanushka, and in the other - dried on plants (they, of course, did not weigh them, but looked to make them about the same volume). The tea was made in August last year, so it can be considered mature. Yesterday we brewed it. There were three tasters. Two more liked the one with green fireweed, it was difficult for me to choose. Liked both. The one with dry fireweed looks more like store-bought black tea. Good black tea.

Someone here asked about the possibility of making tea from dried raw materials (soaking before fermentation).

Anya, did I understand correctly from the dried leaves? I have a revision now - dried herbs from last year, and there is Ivan's tea, I am going to throw it away and prepare new ones, do you think they can be soaked, fermented?

[Vasyutka]

Vasyutka, Natasha, you can! But, I did not make from one dried one, but added to the "traditionally" prepared for fermentation. I have almost no Ivanushka. It was a pity not to try. But, I wouldn't dry it on purpose

Thank you for your kind words! I continue to procure raw materials.

This week I'm going to try to optimize the storage of frozen raw materials, so to speak. That is, collect-wither-freeze = thaw-twist on a large wire rack and store twisted in the freezer until the time for making tea appears. Then thaw, put in a fermentation container and then follow the algorithm. I will report on the result, of course. Oh, I forgot! Before fermentation, twist again on a fine wire rack! Most of all I have raspberry and cherry leaves. I will try on them. If it doesn’t work, don’t be sorry to throw it away!

[Radushka]

Radushka, I think you can't "kill" the cherry, whatever one may say, not the frost - it will still work out)) It is necessary to test the emerging method on "thin" raw materials, and not how it will turn out, another recipe!

[Yuri K]

Yuri KI make raspberries with cherries (cherries 25%). Deterioration in quality is noticeable
It won't work for a recipe. It's just that I, like many, strained with freezers. Well, over time.