Bijou
Well, then you don't need to.
Especially if there are no carpets and upholstered furniture. They need a vacuum cleaner at times. ((
Anna1957
I have no carpets for a long time, and my mother has 2 on the walls. Where to put them now?
Olga VB
Quote: Bijou
They take a simple one without a hap, put a free output filter from a box with bags into a regular frame, buy a twister from Samsung for a handle and live happily, changing native a bag at will, even after three months, even after six months.
If there are allergy sufferers in the house, then you can immediately with hepa, you can then buy it in the store.
Len, let's make it easier: write what model and why to take, what to buy (links) and where to see what, where, how and in what frame to put it in, Schaub live happily. What nozzles are needed, and what are pampering (complete set). Another set of car nozzles to take?
There are no carpets, but there is upholstered furniture.
And finally, let's go in a personal, otherwise we litter here
Narkom
Ol, Sivaki svc1748 can recommend.
Olga VB
Denis, Thank you! But I don't want to use aquafilter anymore
Enchanted
Goodnight!
You need a reliable vacuum cleaner for cleaning animal hair from carpets and furniture. Sednya was in the store, I wanted to see which brushes go to the cyclonic Samsung. But the seller advised not to take Samsung, says short-lived, break down quickly. Recommended European models. Does anyone have a tefal with two turbo brushes?
I know that Dyson is an excellent vacuum cleaner, but I found the simplest model with a regular brush in our sale. The price is biting. What do you recommend girls?
Stillrebel
Enchanted, there are two top manufacturers now:
- Miele - with excellent bags and filters, the cheapest model can be officially bought for 10 tr.
- Dyson - with a real cyclone filter, where it is not necessary to wash the foam filter after each cleaning. In Russia, the easiest one can be found for 20-25 tr, it is more profitable to order from abroad.

I am more than sure that there are other good bag vacuum cleaners (it is better to only choose with a universal bag), but I have not heard about other good cyclones that are now on sale.
sazalexter
Electrolux with an s-bag and a hepa filter, as an additive, of a Chinese robot. We get a minimum of body movements and perfect cleanliness at the exit. I do not advise taking cyclones like aqua dust, the details are on the Internet
Anna1957
Quote: sazalexter
s-bag
Is it the size of the bag or something else? I'm finally not in the subject.
Stillrebel
Anna1957, it is rather a type of attachment of the bag to the vacuum cleaner. Most well-known manufacturers use it.
Enchanted
Girlsiiii, well, I don’t want a bag, under any circumstances. Even if he is super duper.
I have been plowing a Korean LG for 15 years, with a glass, plowing to this day, but his strength is exhausted. I already cleaned and washed the filters in the glass. The result has not improved. And you can hear that everything is in order with the motor. Duc if he pulled normally, I would not change it. Works and figs with him.
According to Dyson, the animal had one option in another city - the Sedna called, there was no one in the office. It is not known when they will arrive.

What can you say about this model? Lies in the basket, must be picked up within 2 days. There is almost no infa in the internet, because the new model. And something I have not heard before that Tefal produces vacuum cleaners.
Tefal TW8370 🔗
Anna1957
Quote: StillRebel

Anna1957, it is rather a type of attachment of the bag to the vacuum cleaner. Most well-known manufacturers use it.
Thanks I'll know.
sazalexter
Anna1957, Anna, this is the standard adopted by Philips and Electrolux (Electrolux, AEG, Volta, Tornado).
kil
Enchanted, I had a task to buy as a gift a vacuum cleaner without a dust bag and not large in size. I studied the market for a week, eventually bought a Bosch BGS 42242 Runn'n. I hope you enjoy the gift.I looked at your Samsung, I did not find the suction power, I have 300, and so according to the characteristics it is almost one to one, but 2 times heavier, although the container is only 100 grams different, it is more expensive, and the cord is shorter and my best vacuum cleaner for allergy sufferers is considered by rating.
Specifications Bosch BGS 42242

Yandex data. Market

General characteristics
Type normal
Dry cleaning
Power consumption 2200 W
Suction power 300 W
Dust collector without bag (cyclone filter), capacity 1.90 l
Power regulator on the body
There is a fine filter
Equipment
Telescopic suction pipe
Turbo brush included
Floor / carpet attachments, turbo brush, 2-in-1: crevice / upholstery
Dimensions and weight
Weight 5.8 kg
Functions
Features auto rewind power cord, foot switch on / off. on the case
Additional information signal to clean filters only if necessary (regular cleaning is not required); radius of action 10 m

Runn'n series premium compact bagless vacuum cleaner. This model can be safely recommended for allergy sufferers, since it is equipped with an ultra-efficient HEPA 14 fine filter capable of capturing up to 99.995% of the smallest particles of 0.1-0.3 microns in size (including bacteria and viruses). An additional plus - the filter can be washed, which allows it to be used on a permanent basis (replacement is not required). The filtration efficiency is certified by the British Allergy Association.

Other features of BGS 42242:

• Low noise level. For this, the German brand has taken a whole range of measures: the engine was placed in a double soundproof capsule, acoustic mats are used, air channels with an aerodynamic design are used in the construction of the vacuum cleaner;
• SensorBagless system. The vacuum cleaner has a built-in sensor for measuring the air flow. If the performance drops below the optimal value, a red indication appears, and the device does not work. Flushing the engine compartment filter (once a year) restores maximum performance.
The main advantages:
Sufficient power and quiet operation;
The air coming out of the vacuum cleaner is cleaner than indoors;
Turbo brush included.
Minuses:
Management on the case.
Enchanted
Quote: kil

I looked at your Samsung,
Probably Tefal)))
I found the characteristics. I can't understand what an energy-saving motor is and how, with its energy saving, the power of 750 will equal 2000? Another "chip" of the manufacturer?
🔗
🔗
sazalexter
Enchanted, Dust cyclone, periodically needs to be washed, rather heavy and bulky
Quote: Enchanted
energy saving motor
Advertising heap
Bijou
Quote: Olga VB
There are no carpets, but there is upholstered furniture.
Then take the complete set "parquet" and have fun.)
sazalexter
I keep 4 dust particles on the farm, Electrolux Oxy3 system, for general cleaning, their own electric broom, Kitfort KT-519 robot https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=105172.1400, noname Chinese with a cloth bag, is used exclusively for cleaning cement dust during repairs. The most user-friendly Oxy3 system, pulled out the bag and everything else requires attention and time for maintenance
kil
Bags are now not humanely expensive, it's good if the model has a washable bag, as it used to be.


Added Thursday, December 29, 2016 5:01 PM

Quote: Enchanted

Probably Tefal)))
I found the characteristics. I can't understand what an energy-saving motor is and how, with its energy saving, the power of 750 will equal 2000? Another "chip" of the manufacturer?
🔗
🔗
well, yes, of course ... and the suction power is the main thing in the vacuum cleaner, and not the one you are talking about (750/2000)
sazalexter
Quote: kil
it's good if the model has a washable bag as it used to be.
not good, all fine dust returns to the room.
kil
sazalexter,, and did not try to shake out on the street and then wash?
Midnight lady
: - \ Than the bag to wash, it is better to wash the container ...
kil
Midnight lady, yes, but containerized ones work worse a priori. For good, you need to have both.
Midnight lady
kil, don't tell me ... with an aquafilter it is much more efficient than a bag filter, at least in terms of the quality of the outgoing air.
Enchanted
Quote: kil
well, yes, of course ... and the suction power is the main thing in the vacuum cleaner, and not the one you are talking about (750/2000)
Little information on this model. The following parameters are indicated on the store's website
🔗
Bijou
Quote: kil
and did not try to shake out on the street and then wash?
And what does this have to do with it? A reusable bag, by definition, has no filtration level, and hepa will have to catch all the coarse little things. She is not sharpened for this and instead of a year or two, she will live in a normal state well if two cleanings.

You can remove it, of course. But then all the dust in the room, as rightly said above.))
Stillrebel
Midnight lady, depends on the type of bag. If you use not paper, but multi-layer disposable, like the original Miele, the bag will win.
But, on the one hand, the bags are expensive, on the other hand, there is no need to wash the container after each cleaning.
Gingi
Quote: StillRebel
But, on the one hand, the bags are expensive, on the other hand, there is no need to wash the container after each cleaning.
Alternatively, take with larger bags. I have BOSCH for 6 liters, enough for a long time. I recently bought 4 bags with an additional filter for 530 rubles. If you take non-original ones, it will turn out even cheaper. In my opinion, not very expensive.
Stillrebel
Gingi, really
A set of unofficial filters for my Samsung 4760, it costs a lot and should be changed every six months. And wash at least once a month, and preferably more often.
And all the same, dust from all holes flies out of it.
No more undercyclones
Bijou
Quote: Gingi
Alternatively, take with larger bags.
Alternatively, buy a twister for the handle. Then he is a cyclone (one with a head is enough to clean the house), and the bag is an outlet filter. It is huge in area, excellent in filtration. On Mila, in a private house with a stove, ash and animals, I change the bag every six months. Except when building dust has to be removed, then it may be more often.

This is what we get .. Even if you buy a box of the best dust collectors for a thousand, then a month of cleaning will cost around 50 rubles?
Anna1957
In, found

Where do they buy them?
Enchanted
Happy everyone!
And who uses the Turkish brand Arnika? Bora and Tesla were interested. It seems like the manufacturer gives a 5-year warranty for these vacuum cleaners. And also the question: who keeps pets and uses a vacuum cleaner with an aquafilter: where do you pour water and wool into the toilet or over the balcony?

Mmmm, I called Arnika, there is such a trick, if a vacuum cleaner with an aquafilter cannot be overfilled or overfilled. If the cleaning is long, the water must be refilled to the mark.
If the water is overfilled or underfilled, the motor deteriorates and the warranty is lost. It may start to hum, smoke, as well as the ingress of liquid - dust into the motor will also lose the warranty. That's interesting - is this the case for all models with an aquafilter?
sazalexter
Enchanted, You also need to add an antifoam to the water in most dust particles, they filter the air badly, especially if there is no filter hep at the outlet, it is a chore to maintain the aquafilter, it will stink badly
Adelia
Quote: Enchanted
And who uses the Turkish brand Arnika? Bora and Tesla were interested. It seems like the manufacturer gives a 5-year warranty for these vacuum cleaners.
I have not used it, but their official warranty is less than 3 and 2 years. So the site says.
Bijou
Quote: Enchanted
or behind the balcony?
What is it like??
Quote: Anna1957
Where do they buy them?
Well, the one on the video is easily searched for by name, but I like the prototype from Samsung more. They are sold by service shops. 🔗
Quote: Anna1957
In, found
A strange video ... In order for me to accumulate so much dust in the bag, I probably have to vacuum for a month.)) There were photos of the cuts somewhere. Perhaps even in this thread, but the computer definitely has it.))
Enchanted
Quote: Adelia
but they have less official warranty, 3 and 2 years
I called directly to the official store, they confirmed in our city their equipment is given a 5-year warranty. But, it only applies to the motor. In general, I looked, they have good vacuum cleaners.It was a little amused that one model has a reinforced hose, it has a 10-year warranty, and 5 years for a vacuum cleaner And wherever to insert this hose later

And my agony of choice is over. I took this Tefal, which I wrote about above, although I was not advised, but there is no choice. Made in France, the box says long life, 10 years. Iiii had already cleaned the entire apartment in 15 minutes, including easily cleaning the carpets with a turbo brush from an infinite amount of her dog and cat's hair. Then she looked into the glass and was stunned by how much dirt he collected. Long hair was cool on some garbage on top, I just took it off with 2 fingers and threw it away. And dog and cat hair, fine debris and dust, as if divided into sectors, not all mixed together. I rinsed the glass. Well so far I like everything
Dyson animal plans to take it as soon as it appears on sale in the city.


Added on Friday 30 Dec 2016 9:07 PM

Quote: sazalexter
you need to add an antifoam to most dust particles, they filter the air poorly, especially if there is no filter hep at the outlet, servicing the aquafilter is dreary, it will stink badly

As for the defoamer, I know that it is interesting that the Arnika model that I liked; the defoamer must be bought separately. And it is written that it is very easy to clean, there are no bars, and other biliberties that complicate care. But damn it from my shepherd so much dirt and wool that mascara light. Daily cleaning for the dog and then vacuuming will kill me.



Added Friday 30 Dec 2016 09:19 PM

Quote: sazalexter
especially if there is no filter hep at the output
About the model Arnica Bora, on which my eye fell, this is what is written:
"Minimum consumables - the HEPA filter serves for additional, not main filtration and is practically not contaminated, and besides, it can be washed"

I really shouldn't be looking towards aquafilters, right?
I'm just seeing how many buckets the new Tefal has collected, in horror how all this will end up in the water, and where to pour this mud out? Really in the toilet? So it gets clogged with wool
Anna1957
Bijou, there are several of them. Now it's too early for me to think about it, there are many other worries. And how will I get myself together - I will come to you for advice, will you not drive me away?
PalmP
Quote: Midnight lady
Rather than wash a bag, it's better to wash the container ...
Yes. And I wash it in the dishwasher (I almost wash everything in it ...)
Which vacuum cleaner to buy?
I have a karcher with an aquafilter and hepa. For several years now. I am very pleased with it: ideal for serious cleaning. It pulls like an animal, it is great to breathe after it and wash the entire bucket, the lid to it and the shield that protects the motor. No trifles. Mine on a quick 30-minute program of 35 degrees, and in place with him a bunch of plastic containers, shelves from the bath.
And for everyday quick cleaning, I have a Dyson v6 animalpro. I can't imagine how they used to do without it. Children have mastered it easily and clean with pleasure. Yes, and I run with him in front of the Karcher - so that less nasty things get into the aquafilter.

Enchanted
sazalexter,
Where do you keep all these vacuum cleaners? I have a new one, a little bigger than an old LG, and then I thought how to shove it into the place where LG stood. And now I'm still thinking where to put my LG

PalmP, Class! I want Dyson too. Only not small but normal, 52 animal kit. And Karcher V7 would like to try. And I also want to experience aquik. Got me

You probably don't have animals? So I'm wondering who uses aquik and how does he get along with a lot of wool?
And tell us in more detail if there are any troubles like more water can not be poured, less too. Long cleaning - top up. If these conditions are not met, the motor will deteriorate and then you will lose the warranty. About defoamers, I was told today that they may not be needed, depending on your carpet. And how do I know the type of my carpet, especially since I have more than one, and do they need antifoam agents?
Although I foresee the answer about defoamers - it's better to play it safe and add.
PalmP
EnchantedUnfortunately, we have no animals. My son has an allergy, that's why she acquired Karcher in due time.
There are no problems with the amount of water. I carry it under the tap, pour it between the min | max marks. No need to add water.You can, of course, if you want, change the water, but I don't see the point in this, because at first I go through the dyson and I don't have any horror-horror in the water. We have only one carpet, in the parents' room. I always add a little defoamer. The expense is small, it lasts for a long time, it is on sale.
severyanka76
PalmP, Tamara, I also have a Karcher with an aquafilter, but I haven't thought of washing in the dishwasher. This is the way out! Do you have any animals - what about Dyson's handling of wool and sand?
PalmP
It copes with sand perfectly, but I don't know about animal hair.
Galin
Quote: Enchanted
uses aquik and how does he get along with a lot of wool?
I have a vacuum cleaner with a Samsung aquafilter and several animals that have a very decent undercoat that has the ability to constantly fall out. Actually, because of the animals, I bought a vacuum cleaner with an aquafilter, since the usual one did not remove wool well and I felt it in the air, although it seemed like it was decent, Electrolux. First, I bought a wireless Electrolux, one of the first models, then for clean cleaning Samsung with an aquafilter, by the way, it has a 5-year warranty. I have a small apartment, so this tandem is just perfect for me. It is a pity that the wireless has exhausted its resource and only the aquic remains. I am very happy with it. Wool cleans perfectly, and generally happy with the cleaning. Also, there are no problems with water, I pour at the maximum mark, I try not to clean the whole apartment with one container, but you can not do this, I just regret the vacuum cleaner, suddenly it happens that there is not enough water. I don’t buy defoamers, I didn’t even know that they were needed, I don’t have carpets. The wool in the container gets knocked down in a lump, I put a bag on my hand, take out this lump and throw it into a bag with trash, pour water into the toilet, rinse and pour clean water to clean the second half of the apartment. When I do the cleaning completely, then I rinse the parts, but this is done quickly and easily. It's not a problem for me, clean air is more dear to me.
Midnight lady
Enchanted, there is a mark, I pour it up to it. In the event of an overflow in Samsung, a special gizmo is provided at the bottom, you push it aside and the excess water is drained. I don't know anything about the defoamer, what kind of foam, if just water is poured. Maybe you confused it with a washing vacuum cleaner? The detergent is poured there and, probably, an antifoam is needed.
One fill of water is enough to clean a two-room apartment. But there are no animals, but carpets. When the repair was done, then I changed the water three times, I was afraid for the vacuum cleaner.
sazalexter
Quote: Enchanted
Where do you keep all these vacuum cleaners?
In the usual three-ruble note, built in 1983, there were cats and a dog ... now they are not .. there is nothing better and more convenient than a bag of dust with a double and Hepa 13, this is purely my observation, an old lazy person, well, the truth is still a robot to help.
Rada-dms
Quote: sazalexter
there is nothing better and more convenient than a bag dust with double and hepa 13

+ 1000000
Enchanted
GalinThanks for such a detailed answer. Please write what your Aquik model is.

Quote: Midnight lady
Maybe you confused it with a washing vacuum cleaner?
Uh, yes, apparently it is, now I read the article, it says an antifoam is needed for vacuum cleaners with aquafilters. And then I read further: When water and soapy liquid combine with fine dust particles, foaming begins. So this applies to detergents.
And here's another question: How is animal hair collected with a vacuum cleaner with a steam cleaner? After all, water must also be poured into it, and not just water, but purified water.


Added Saturday 31 Dec 2016 05:16 AM

Quote: sazalexter
there is nothing better and more convenient than bag dust with double and hepa 13

And I just can't accept it. I had a lot of vacuum cleaners with bags, when the first vacuum cleaner with a glass appeared, I immediately bought it. And until now, this vacuum cleaner works for me, but for some reason there is no longer that power. I have already changed the filters inside the glass, and cleaned them and soaps - no result.
And it's so convenient for me, after 2 - 3 cleanings, turn this glass into a bag and throw it away.

Quote: sazalexter
In the usual three-ruble note built in 1983
Well, you probably have some kind of cabinet for storing so many vacuum cleaners?
Olga_Ma
Oh girls, today my Bork stopped working, which has served me with faith and truth for more than 6 years, but today it does not turn on and that's it. I have a washing Thomas, but I need a cat in the house for dry cleaning. Looked at Millet, but after the adventures of Kroshi Inna, it was somehow scary. I really don't know which one to choose
sazalexter
Olga_Ma, Olga, the most convenient thing is a baggy dust with a hepa filter at the outlet, you don't need to wash or dry anything, a minimum of body movements. I would now buy Electrolux or philips with S-Bag and hep. PS: Maybe a budget robot to help, I recently bought myself, I'm satisfied https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=105172.1400
Olga_Ma
Alexander, thanks, I was thinking about the robot, but I don't know if I can handle the budget option with wool, I have a British woman and spring is coming soon, wool is already full in the whole apartment

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