Elena Tim
Quote: Anna1957
Flax, I compared yours and Omeline's recipe - you have 2 times more salt (8 and 15 g), and 2.5 times more water (40 and 100 g). I have a cognitive dissonance Cho do?
Oh, Anechka, I'm sorry, I had to have a little chill. But it’s probably too late, right, to answer?
18 g of salt per 1 kg of meat is the norm for laying in recipes for ham. Likewise, water: 100 ml per 1 kg of meat. In this ham, I have reduced the amount of salt due to the cheese. And 8g is Omelkino's preference. For me, there would be very little salt here, although I would not say that I really like everything salty. I saw that Vera Doxy is also guided by Tescom's bookmarking "rules". Well, I did so with peace of mind. Everything worked out fine. The drained juice, yes, salty, and the ham itself is normal, only slightly salty, as it should be.
Anna1957
Quote: Elena Tim
But it’s probably too late, right, to answer?

No, not too late, the mushrooms are getting cold. Stafa told me the same thing.
Elena Tim
Yes, I have already tracked the trajectory of your flight on the site!
Anh, do not forget to drain the juice later, and when you put the ham to cool, you will have to manually press the press. In Teskom, this is done automatically, but here, as I understood, it is necessary to tighten it, right?
Aygul
Wow! New recipe Gone
Elena Tim
Zdarof! And I think they carry you all day! Did you come running to the smell?
Aygul
Yeah, I came running to the smell straight from the parent meeting
mur_myau
Anna1957,
I have seen similar devices for pickling Japanese and Korean pickles (in Ibei). There are ceramic - more expensive, and plastic - cheaper. And inside the press - screw or with a spring.
Most of all I liked the lock'n'lock jars and containers.
Anna1957
Quote: Elena Tim
when you put the ham to cool, you still have to manually press the press. In Teskom, this is done automatically, but here, as I understood, it is necessary to tighten it, right?

Thank you, I will.
Crochet
Quote: Elena Tim
I would cut the breast. And then she's a little dry, I don't know she can keep her shape.

As much as he can !!!

I made my first ham just from kuroxI did ores !!!

Okay, with one little pig's tongue ...

Such a charm turned out !!!

I should probably bring a photo ...

Elena Tim
Kroshkin, what are you doing, at Tescom? And then I'm already confused - who is dumb, and who is ma.
SchuMakher
Are the mushrooms poisonous, naturally?
Elena Tim
You know, my dear ... with non-poisonous ones any fool will do!
Naturally, poisonous! Most, sho no!
Anna1957
Hallucinogenic
Elena Tim
Anh, what have you already prepared, chtol, your ham according to my recipe?
So you know they're hallucinogenic, right? Class, tell me ?!
Anna1957
No, it ripens in the fridge, I'll cook tomorrow night. Here people write about Shteba that without a cover it does not gain 80 degrees. And I put a lid from the microwave on Panas, tomorrow I'll try to make it on stewing.
Elena Tim
Aygul
I read everything, everything, everything: both the recipe and the comments, licked my lips on the photo, and after all, I really smelled the aroma of increased salivation, I drink tea to make it clear what kind of smacks are being heard
Linen, super! Masterpiece! and nothing else
Elena Tim
Thank you, Aygulchik! You know how to cheer you up! A real druhh!
Not like some enemas!

By the way, about enemas! Where is Manya? Sleep, chtola, galloped away? And the draca ?!
nyusay
Oh girls, I'm sorry to climb. I follow your victories with ham as I watch the Olympics ;-)
And now I want this ham, I can’t !!!!
And from the first day I suffer whom she reminds me of, but today I woke up and understood. This is a plastic coffee press: a cone, a lid, a circle between the lid and a flask, and a pimp.Only there are no pens!
Oh, if I find where to buy it before tomorrow, I’ll run for meat from the morning to the market!
Thank you, maybe my men will finally get a sausage.
Crochet
Quote: Elena Tim
Kroshkin, what are you doing, at Tescom?

In it, Lenus, yeah ...
SchuMakher
Where, where ... in the nest! I work ...
Elena Tim
Quote: nyusay
and today I woke up and understood. This is a coffee press
Hmmm ... well, if you can still cook the ham in the French press, it will be just a sausage revolution! The Finns are already, I suppose, stunned by the mockery of the Russians over their jars for pickles, now the guardians will also have their eyes on their foreheads! Well, it's your own fault! We have warned them since the days of Napoleon, sho better not to mess with us! You have to think of it, drink COFFEE from French presses! Well stupid!
Our people cannot be defeated!

Only now ... how is it oppressive to install this pimp? There is also no spring or screw-down pressing plate!
Elena Tim
Quote: Krosh
In it, Lenus, yeah ...
Well de your photo? I have been waiting since yesterday!
nyusay
Quote: Elena Tim
Only now ... how is it oppressive to install this pimp? There is also no spring or screw-down pressing plate!
Is it oppressive or screwed in a ham maker?
please show a photo of the insides of the ham
Elena Tim
Yes please!
Ham with mushrooms and cheese in Tescoma ham maker

The lid is screwed on, and the spring gradually compresses our ham.
nyusay
ABOUT! it changes a lot ... then the French press will not work ...
but it's a shame ...
nyusay
would have been available, I would have tried it ... but the children have been shaking for a long time
boom think
SanechkaA
Lenochek, and if there is no kneader - how to knead the minced meat? handles? I decided to charge the white side for now
Elena Tim
Quote: SanechkaA
and if there is no kneader - how to knead the minced meat? handles?
Yes, Sanya, as it is not regrettable, but you will have to use pens. Unless you have a combine that has plastic stirring knives. Then at the smallest speed it is possible in it. It will take a very long time to manually interfere. Especially if the meat is completely cut into pieces. You will need to wait for the meat to be swept a little and covered with such tiny veins-threads. They will hold the meat in one whole piece!
Vladzia
Quote: nyusay
ABOUT! it changes a lot ... then the French press will not work ...
: lol: Something will not work, unscrew the top pimp, screw the washer instead, a metal plate to the washer with a "moment", and then dumbbell ...
Elena Tim
Quote: Vladzia
and then in a dumbbell way ...
Vladzia
SanechkaA
Elena, hmm, thanks for the answer - I'll think about how best to do it, probably I'll make someone interfere
Elena Tim
Yes, konesh, set your husband in the kitchen, the hi interferes for 30 minutes or until you get stupid, whichever comes faster!
SanechkaA
Elena, you will not believe - this is exactly what I am going to do
Elena Tim
Pralna! We all think the same when someone needs to fuse a hard job!
The solution is always one - the husband!
The better he kneads it, the faster he will cope! So pass it on.
SanechkaA
Lena,
Wiki
I mixed with a mixer, dough hooks. Of course, you also need to hold and drive, but still not with your hands.
Elena Tim
San, San, hey ... the longer he fiddles with the meat ... the sooner he will buy you a dough mixer!
So, let him thresh for an hour, heart!
SanechkaA
Linen, and is it needed (kneader)? I thought about purchasing it only when I saw your ham recipes ... the HP dough interferes, and for all sorts of things like proteins, cream there is a blender mixer

Wiki thanks for the hint!
Elena Tim
Well then, don't, of course. If there is no need for it, there is nothing to spend money for. You can get out, as Vika said, and interfere with hooks from a hand mixer. But the hands will still fall off, from the weight of the mixer itself.
But you try, maybe you will choose a more or less acceptable way for yourself.

Can we try it in a bread maker?

Toka, if it breaks, I'm not to blame!
Wiki
I have a very light Boshik, I stirred for 7 minutes.
I thought about the mixer, but then when I saw its size, I changed my mind right away.The kitchen is not rubber. If I buy Teskom's ham, it will take the place of Belobokin, from changing the places of the terms, as they say.
Elena Tim
Vic, seven minutes is good, but only if the ham has ground beef. And for a whole lump - not enough. My kneader threshed this ham for 20 minutes, and only about 15 minutes did the pieces begin to fiber. Well, I do my best to ensure that the ham is smooth and does not fall apart when slicing. Therefore, I seek these very "strings" on the advice of the Sausage Man.
SanechkaA
in general, I will force hubby to knead with a mixer with dough hooks - if he has enough patience, he will eat delicious ham, if not, hmm, well, I don’t think he will refuse
Elena Tim
Well done! Two devices at once will be in operation: a husband and a mixer!
Wiki
Minced meat - yes, there is, but not a lot. Ham is not something that does not fall apart, does not even crumble at all. The monolith is straight.

SchuMakher
Quote: Elena Tim
Therefore, I achieve these very "threads"

Can we bring those floss? There are strings, all strings are strings
Elena Tim
Quote: ShuMakher
There are strings, all strings are strings
When I buy you a ham, let's see how you sing!
And you will look for strings in minced meat, and cotton wool ... and enemas!
SchuMakher
Quote: Elena Tim
And you will look for strings in minced meat, and cotton wool ... and enemas!

well, this is the current after hallucinogenic mushrooms
Elena Tim
Well pralna! I'll feed thee with my ham first! And I have her, oh, how cheerful!
By the way, we already ate it.

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