marinastom
God, Tanya, what a price! .. True, I opened the first site I came across, but nevertheless.
I have. What shall I say? I like Berner-Trend better. And even a piece of a finger in a grated carrot did not frighten me.
Of course, the Combique has a different set of cutting surfaces. In fact, it replaces some of the individual cutters: Carly, Rocco and the Combi Slicer, but without changing the thickness. The fourth side is just a grater, rather fine.
GTI Tatiana
Yes, Marin, price = horror. And so it seems to me more familiar than individual inserts.
You said about a finger in a carrot, but I already got ants, brrr
Mona1
GTI Tatiana, Tanya, Combi-Chef does not replace in its pure form the main vegetable cutter Trend, Prima, Profi, it rubs NOT as separate inserts to the listed vegetable cutters. It replaces the separately sold Berner's Graters, as Marina correctly wrote, which have mostly (except for Deco) inserts. Deco rubs, like these graters, except for one side, which rubs with plates, and even then only one of the thickness. A vegetable cutter Trend or Prima, or Profi - they do not rub with such a cut as graters and like Combi-Chef, they rub with plates (several thicknesses) and blocks (several thicknesses), Prima is also of the type of small, cute cubes-rhombuses (this is if it will turn out to rub, not everyone succeeds the first time) So you can't say here - which is better - Prima (Trend, Pro) or Combi-Chef. It would be more correct to say: Which is better: Carly, Rocco, Baby and Combi-slicer or Combi-Chef.
I bought all these graters separately. That's why I don't have a Combi-Chef. Which is better, I will not say. But I know that the Chief is rather bulky. I pulled the little teacup out of the bucket, rubbed it, rinsed it and that's it, and the colossus-Chef is perhaps more inconvenient in this regard. It would be good for someone who has both he and graters to advise.
But in truth, all of these graters are used much less often than the main vegetable cutter. so in any case, no matter what you decide - the Combi-Chef or the graters that he replaces, but I would start buying from the basic set, that is, choose between Prima or Trend (Pro). Trend and Profi are the same grater, only the frame in the Profi is made of metal and there is already an insert-plug for the blades, on which one more thickness, in addition to the two laid in the vegetable cutter, can be made, by the way, the most demanded thickness. This plug-in can be purchased for the Trend, but it is not available everywhere, there is a shortage, so you need to order the Trend in a place where the plug is sold. Well, Prima - there is a little different in design, not so easy to use, but it gives a little wider possibilities in the number of thicknesses of bars and slices and + mini cube-rhombuses, as I already wrote. So think, choose. The grains are excellent.
After my Trend + insert 10 mm + plug, the most popular graters are Rocko and Carly. Pizza-grater and Bebik are much less common, as well as Deco-Star (this one, in general, is to play with beauty in a salad, usually on holidays, and so on every day, on the Trend everything chicks fast.
marinastom
Tanya, it's time for you to change your nickname to Mona-Guru-Boerner
gala10
Quote: marinastom
Tanya, it's time for you to change your nickname to Mona-Guru-Boerner
Agree! I chose my Trend mainly on the advice of Tatiana, for which many thanks to her! I have never regretted my choice.
GTI Tatiana
Mona1, Tatyan, thank you very much for such a detailed answer. I realized that these are different things)))))))
Probably you need to buy the usual classic Berner grater, and buy the Profi-Berner separately. Beautiful!
Only now, can I use it ... I am very traumatic with different knives and cutters.
Mona1
GTI Tatiana, classic grater Borner, is this in the sense of a Classic? Don't take it, it's poor quality now, and the frame in it is flimsy, and the blades are riveted, and not all-fused into the frame, and in general, in Germany it is not produced now, but it seems to be done somewhere under a license. In addition, Classic, Trend, Profi, Prima are one and the same vegetable cutter, so you don't need to buy both Classic and Profi. The cutting in them is absolutely the same, only the appearance is different. Like the Pro - take it, and the Classics - God forbid, although the price for it is lower, of course.

GTI Tatiana
Mona1, No, Tatyan, I meant a classic four-sided grater with a handle on top. Like Combi-Chef, only cheaper (without container Grater Burner (2)
Mona1
marinastom, gala10, oh, girls, what are you, embarrassed right. I used to be here often, and Borner could have paid me a chit. And right now, there is no particular mood to write anywhere, I read more or write in a personal. This day something struck me for writing. Quiet so far, but from old memory I decided to come here. Berner graters are one of my favorite acquisitions since I settled on this forum. And in this thread I met at the same time with Tanya azaza , my great friend. So, although there is everything from Berner except for peelers and knives (because I have a cool Victorinox peeler), but no, no, and I will look from old memory.
Mona1
Quote: GTI

Mona1, No, Tatyan, I meant a classic four-sided grater with a handle on top. Like Combi-Chef, only cheaper (without container Grater Burner (2)
Clear. It would also be nice right away, when you take the Profi, or the Trend, then the insert of 10 mm is necessary, for fries potatoes or for soups, stews on it are convenient potatoes.
marinastom
Quote: Mona1
This day something struck me for writing. Quiet so far, but from old memory I decided to come here.
And we are so glad to see you here! I even welcome you here from work!
Iron
Girls!

If anyone is still interested in Combi-Chef, then I now have
2 pcs in stock at a reasonable price!
GTI Tatiana
Tanya, Tatyan, maybe in a personal message or here you can write to such novice terco detectors, which is convenient in work and storage, which inserts must be bought.
Mona1
marinastom,
Irina.
Quote: GTI

I meant the classic square grater with a handle on top. Grater Burner (2)
I have such a grater. I bought it "for the company", but it still remains idle, rubbing on it with the holder is not convenient, and without the holder it is terrible to injure my hands, it is very sharp. I like the slicing on the main set more, neater and smoother. And on this grater I did not like the cutting of vegetables itself, as if the resulting form.
I have a set of Prima and all the individual graters. For Prima, an oval vessel is more convenient (so as not to move on the table I put it on a napkin), from a small one, everything flies onto the table and rubbing is not as convenient as on an oval one. I bought a small vessel for separate graters, because they do not sit comfortably on an oval vessel.
In general, she armed herself in full.
Ipatiya
Quote: marinastom

Tanya, it's time for you to change your nickname to Mona-Guru-Boerner

Agree! Tatiana's advice helped a lot.
Mona1
Quote: GTI

Tanya, Tatyan, maybe in a personal message or here you can write to such novice terco detectors, which is convenient in work and storage, which inserts must be bought.
All graters are easy to use. The only thing I regret is that I gave my Waffle-Classic and bought Deco-Star instead. It rubs harder on it, although it is wider and has three thicknesses, and in the Classic there are two. But on the Classic waffle, the blades go at a sharper angle, which is probably why they go easier. I want to somehow buy myself the Classics again, but I will rub on Deco only if I need that third thickness.
An insert of 10 mm is necessary, but I did not like 1.6 mm, it rubs straight into porridge, but many use potato pancakes. What Roko writes also rubs, like 1.6, so no, Roko rubs much more accurately, in clear blocks, and at 1.6, as it were, they come out slightly shabby (well, maybe others do not)
I have a box.Sudok is very convenient, although many simply rub it on the board, as usual, and in the internet they write that you can just put a grater on the pan, there are grooves on the grater on the sides, but on the grater, as for me, it is much more comfortable and safer to rub with holder.
How to use the holder:
it is very simple and convenient, you only need to prick the vegetable onto the holder for the full length of the pins, and the button from above should be pushed out, you do not need to pinch it with your fingers in the process. Then you rub it. Don't press the button. When you touch the vegetable and the holder is already sliding over the frame, then you start pressing the button: put the holder on the grater on top, pressed the button. The vegetable has come on. Teranuli down (while moving down - no need to press the button). Then put the holder on top of the grater again, press the button again, and so on until the end of the vegetable.
In general, here are a bunch of links, if you're interested, this is when I just bought it, showed the types of slices, how I store graters and inserts, my thoughts about the pros and cons of Prima and Trend. But these are my thoughts, or maybe some of the users have their own opinion on this matter. In general, read it, it may come in handy.
My Borner - first impressions:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2844.0
About Sudok Classic:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2844.0
How the Trend is put on the Sudoku - photo:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=170448.0
My multi-box with graters and universal boxes with inserts
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2844.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=170448.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=170448.0
About the stub to Trend and Pro:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2844.0
In detail, where you can use Roco and Deco Star - my impressions:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=170448.0
About Rocko and Wafelka:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=170448.0
Pros and cons of Trend and Prima - my post:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=170448.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=170448.0
Where to buy Borner - of. representatives in cities:
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GTI Tatiana
Mona1, Oh wow! Thank you very much, I will study.
gala10
Tanyawhat a fine fellow you are! Thanks, I'll follow all the links for a refresh.
Mona1
Girls, there are links when it opens, so you still scroll up and down on the page, because for sure there was a discussion of this issue, and other girls also said their opinions, a lot of useful things, maybe you will learn something from the whole discussion for yourself.
marinastom
GTI Tatiana, Tanya, when you buy yourself a normal grater, you get comfortable with it, you will then say: and what did I doubt ...
hasia
Ironhow much does the combishef cost? You can in a personal.
Iron
Wrote
Olex
Girls, tell me, please, - is Carly's grater suitable for Example? And how does it melt into an oval vessel? Or the grater itself on the sideboard?
Piano
Carly is getting bad on the Primovsky box, only the left edge is fixed, the right one crawls ... but you can, as it were, hold it while standing, not scary ...
Mona1
Quote: Olex

Girls, tell me, please, - is Carly's grater suitable for Example? And how does it melt into an oval vessel? Or the grater itself on the sideboard?
It's not clear what it means - Carly's grater fits the Example? This is not an insert, this is a separate grater that has nothing to do with the Prima vegetable cutter. You can put it on a basket - the grater itself. You can not put, but rub on the board, as we usually used to rub. But maybe you wanted to ask about Carly in Prima style? But it seems that this particular grater is not in the Prima style, only in the Trend style. It seems to be put on an oval vessel, I gave a link on the previous page, where to see in the plate the compatibility of different grains and vegetable cutters with vessels.
By the way, all the graters have ledges and, if desired, the girls wrote, you can not put on the pans, but on a suitable pan in size. But I have not tried that, I have a sudoku. It seems to me that it stands more securely on it than on a saucepan.
Olex
Tanya, Elena, thank you very much for your answers. And I will go to deal with the table.
marinastom
Quote: Mona1

By the way, all the graters have ledges and, if desired, the girls wrote, you can not put on the pans, but on a suitable pan in size. But I have not tried that, I have a sudoku. It seems to me that it stands more securely on it than on a saucepan.
Tan, I do just that from time to time. But here it matters which product, or rather its hardness. The harder it is, the more difficult it is to hold the grater on the edge of the dish.
GTI Tatiana
Girls using the Burner grater, you are great craftswomen!
No wonder I am afraid of her, I tried not mine several times. Everything brings me down when I hold the holder
gala10
Tatyana, don't cry, at first it was like that too. And nothing, now I can not imagine how to do without it. So ... the mice cried, injected, but continued to eat the cactus.
GTI Tatiana
Galina, Thank you for your kind words
Mona1
GTI Tatiana, Tanyusha, do not rush in this case to rub straight away. First, fight your fear. Just put the holder on the grater - empty, then put your hand on it, grasp the holder firmly, make sure that not a single finger sticks out of the holder's cap and slowly just move it back and forth for a couple of minutes, then move a little faster, make sure that when the fingers are behind the hat, then they absolutely spit on the toothy grater. Then put something small and not hefty hard and drag it along the top of the grater, without even rubbing, just move it, then again look at the fingers - where are they, and then abruptly with force - whack, exhale, slowly return the holder to the upper position, put look at it, look at your fingers again, again - zip. Slowly the fear will go away, but control of the position of the hand is constant, the fingers should simply be melted into the holder, not spread out like a fan.
So sho, don't be afraid, we'll break through!
GTI Tatiana
Mona1, Tanya, thank you for your kind words. I will train)
Or throw me out of despair
marinastom
GTI Tatiana, Tanya, in no case, a little more and you will be almost, like Tanya-Mona, giving advice to everyone.
Tatiana.k
Girls, ass on Berner))))
I stare at Prima.
Can you please tell me if it is convenient to grate boiled vegetables on it? And in general, can you grate vegetables on it, for example, for a vinaigrette?
I was told that a 7mm grater makes cubes 3.5mm And I naively thought that if 7mm, then this is the size of the output product ((((
Mona1
Quote: Tatiana.k

Girls, ass on Berner))))
I stare at Prima.
Can you please tell me if it is convenient to grate boiled vegetables on it? And in general, can you grate vegetables on it, for example, for a vinaigrette?
I was told that a 7mm grater makes cubes 3.5mm And I naively thought that if 7mm, then this is the size of the output product ((((
7 mm - this makes the cubes with a section of 7 by 7 mm. And the cubes on the prima are sooo small as for vinigret. I don't have Prima, let Prima's owners write the dimensions. yes, and not cubes there, but like rhombuses. You can also rub boiled ones, only they do not hold well on the holder. Raw is good. This applies to Prima and Trend and Pro. For boiled ones, it's better to buy something like an Alligator.
Tatiana.k
Mona1,
I understand that you are an expert on Berner here))))
Then a question about the Trend: does he cut the cubes? not rhombuses? and what is the maximum size of the cube and on which nozzle?

Uh, I’m starting to swim in this matter ....

What is an Alligator?
marinastom
While Tanya is busy. The trend cubes can (namely cubes) only if the product on the holder is previously cut across the line of movement along the blades. Onions, for example, disintegrate even without cutting into cubes. But this is a feature of the product.
Tatiana.k
marinastom, Thank you)))
Marina, that is, first you need to prick the product on the holder, then cut it with a knife?
But how is it more convenient to use roco, pizza, curly graters? To put in a sudok? And if on a table, on which surface is it better? Glass, wood?

Girls understand that for the thousandth time I will ask (but the stop at the local joint venture is close, so we must hurry), I apologize in advance.
In general, I'm looking for graters for (which you can advise (names are desirable)): carrots with pilaf cubes (trend 7mm), finely-fine onions (trend 3.5), boiled vegetables in vinaigrette (although I realized that I need to see what then Alligator), cubes like for a Korean carrot.
I don’t want to take a lot so that later it’s all in the far corner. After reading the reviews, I'm inclined towards the Trend
Taia
I have a Trend, I like to rub onions on insert 3.5, and carrots at 7. All these inserts are included in the main set of the Trend, you do not need to buy them. And when you need to grate the onion very finely, very finely, I use insert 1.6, here it is bought separately.I like this insert, although judging by the reviews, many people do not like it.
I like to rub everything in a jar.
Almost everyone likes Carly's grater, but I didn't find a use for it, just like Roco, lie ...
Everything is very individual, it is difficult to calculate everything in advance.
Tatiana.k
Taia, Thank you.
I will edit the post along the way, make a dossier, so to speak)))
Tatiana.k
Wow, I have a lot of questions, something ...
And how do you wash the grater after the cheese, if it is impossible in hot water (I have already subtracted), then, doubts are taken that the warm one will take the usual one with a sponge, I wash it off, but this will not work (((
Taia
I wash the whole set with warm water using a dish brush. I'm terribly afraid of all these teeth.
Tatiana.k
Taia, Oh, good idea, I'll take note)))
Thanks for the promptness, you probably still have morning?
Taia
Yes, almost 9 am.
gala10
And I also use a toothbrush to wash these graters and, especially, the fruit holder. Reaches the most difficult to reach places.
marinastom
Tatiana.k, Tanya, I have almost everything for the Trend, and some graters. I like Schaub Bulo better.
Tatiana.k
marinastom,
and I am the same, but I really understand that some of my graters will definitely collect dust, so I want to buy the most used ones.
Stafa
Quote: Taia
Almost everyone likes Carly's grater, but I have not found a use for it
I rub carrots and potatoes on karli on kharcho and pickle, I liked them in this form in these soups. And even in the spring, a salad of cucumber and radish, but for the cabbage I didn't like it - cabbage with a metal flavor turns out. But on the slicer or on the toothy inserts, this taste of metal is not. But the rock has been lying for a long time.
Mona1
Yes, everything is individual here, I finally can't get accustomed to 1.6, on Roko I find a carrot in Korean much prettier. Only if you take it, then not Rocko-classic, but Rocko-Trend, it gets stuck in the Classics and is more difficult when washing. I use Carly a lot. And be sure to buy a Blade Cover Insert and a 10mm Insert for the Trend. I also have a 4.5 mm insert, it is a rare guest in stores, I ordered it from Germany, but I met it a couple of times. Also often used, otherwise it happens that 3.5 is hefty small, and 7 is large.
But Berner has no ligators, it's this kind of thing
Grater Burner (2)Grater Burner (2)
I have such a simple Decok 2 in 1, there is a nozzle for apples and two with square cells, larger and smaller with a cross-section of squares.
Grater Burner (2)
But also, in order to get cubes, on these pieces you need to cut a vegetable into plates, and then into an alligator or Decok. I still have a Dekokovskaya one, but in the picture it is partially plastic, and mine is all metal, but it did not take root, the previous one is more often used, and this one is on the shelf for beauty.
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